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burgundia 12-30-2009 04:40 PM

In 3 weeks they are going to install
 
scanners at the Amsterdam airport. they will scan all the passengers flying to USA. they will see not only what is on the body. but also what's in...
(right now no link in English...)

HOPEFUL 12-30-2009 04:44 PM

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There you go Burgundia (looks like more airports to follow):

Quote:

THE HAGUE, Netherlands – The Netherlands announced Wednesday it will immediately begin using full body scanners for flights heading to the United States, issuing a report that called the failed Christmas Day airline bombing a "professional" al-Qaida terror attack.

A top Dutch official said a scanner of that type may have stopped Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab from boarding Northwest Airlines Flight 253 to Detroit from Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on Friday carrying undetected explosives. Law enforcement officials say the 23-year-old Nigerian tried but failed to detonate the explosives on a plane carrying over 300 people.

"It is not exaggerating to say the world has escaped a disaster," Interior Minister Guusje Ter Horst told a news conference, referring to it as "another al-Qaida attack."

The Dutch minister said U.S. had not wanted these scanners to be used previously because of privacy concerns but said there was now agreement with Washington authorities that "all possible measures will be used on flights to the U.S."

A key European legislator urged the European Union to begin rapidly installing the new equipment across the 27-nation bloc, but no other European nations immediately followed the Dutch move.

Body scanners that peer underneath clothing have been available for years, but privacy advocates say they are a "virtual strip search" because they display an image of the body onto a computer screen. (...)
More here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091230/...irliner_attack

burgundia 12-30-2009 04:53 PM

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Thank you Hopeful...:original:

Peace of mind 12-30-2009 05:20 PM

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I'm noticing the paterns. They Create fake terrorist attacks so they can take away more of your freedom. This new scanning system seems to be revealed at an very opportune time. Anyway, here's another link with video...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ody_scans.html

Peace

burgundia 12-30-2009 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace of mind (Post 212674)
I'm noticing the paterns. They Create fake terrorist attacks so they can take away more of your freedom. This new scanning system seems to be revealed at an very opportune time. Anyway, here's another link with video...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ody_scans.html

Peace

of course...this was the purpose of that...

micjer 12-30-2009 05:27 PM

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http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/homeland.gif


It is for our security. Ya ok. :mad3:


Or is it for the furthering of the police state agenda.

I wonder if they would have caught the underwear bomber. Not likely when it was a false flag.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...r_2009/dog.jpg

giovonni 12-30-2009 05:39 PM

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Y-NXZmDcx.../body+Scan.jpg
very expensive porn booths :nono:

Kulapops 12-30-2009 06:39 PM

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Maybe they should just turn up the heat... and make everyone get on the plane naked.... then we'd all see we're not so different after all...

:original:

burgundia 12-30-2009 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kulapops (Post 212756)
Maybe they should just turn up the heat... and make everyone get on the plane naked.... then we'd all see we're not so different after all...

:original:

But you know...some people may hide the explosives in "dark" places....:lmfao:

giovonni 12-30-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 212762)
But you know...some people may hide the explosives in "dark" places....:lmfao:

I'm not biting that one> you bad girl :naughty:

TRANCOSO 12-30-2009 07:13 PM

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A dirty mind, is a joy for life! :naughty:

And who wants to go to America anyway?

burgundia 12-30-2009 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 212772)
And who wants to go to America anyway?

Americans going back home???:lmfao:

giovonni 12-30-2009 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 212772)
A dirty mind, is a joy for life! :naughty:

And who wants to go to America anyway?



http://img.timeinc.net/time/cartoons/20061217/9.jpg

naked bankers and lawyers

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...s/bbon227l.jpg

:lol3:

burgundia 12-30-2009 07:36 PM

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Gio....nobody does it better..than you....
:roll1::roll1:

waitinginthewings 12-30-2009 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kulapops (Post 212756)
Maybe they should just turn up the heat... and make everyone get on the plane naked.... then we'd all see we're not so different after all...

:original:

Yep...think of all the money that could be saved on the costly porno technology:lmao:

I wonder what the security guards operating these machines dream about at night:nono:

She-Ra 12-31-2009 01:54 AM

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They have been trying these out and wanting to introduce them since 2002 or thereabouts, what I'm concerned about is how dangerous are they? We already have to pass through x-ray scanners which so many people think of as harmless, but what will these be?

Airport security is stringent enough and you have to go through multiple checkpoints as well as border control at your start, connections (unless you're going home but they can still check documents) and destination. I had a bag search because of a belt recently - a pink and gold elastic fashion belt with a butterfly buckle. That person was allowed through intentionally, no random person, he has a £2 million central London pad and family government officials, he didn't make it through by himself as a random product of consistent breakdown in security.

Boober 12-31-2009 02:10 AM

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Reminds me of a scene from Total Recall. Exactly. Trip out.

lindabaker 12-31-2009 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 212785)
Americans going back home???:lmfao:

Hey, we Americans "get it." I lived in Europe for a while when I was young. I was welcomed and had a lot of friends. I no longer feel welcome, so I'm staying at home. So much for my friendly outreach here...it makes me so sad. You don't know me. Linda

burgundia 12-31-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lindabaker (Post 213077)
Hey, we Americans "get it." I lived in Europe for a while when I was young. I was welcomed and had a lot of friends. I no longer feel welcome, so I'm staying at home. So much for my friendly outreach here...it makes me so sad. You don't know me. Linda

I really do not understand your statement here...What was offensive to you? I wanted to add"from holidays"..but thought it wasn't necessary...I guess it was...

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 01-01-2010 09:47 PM

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manchester uk international airport was testing them before xmas..

housemouse2 01-01-2010 09:57 PM

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military industrial complex is still finding ways to scare people.

what will be next to place more of these scanners in the public use? Surely airports are just the tip of the ice berg.

Imagine going to the mall and having to pass through a scanner just to enter the complex. Going to a ball game and having to be scanned. Going to dinner and being scanned. Going shopping...any public place where people gather.

they won't stop at airports. New false flag attacks will happen in malls and other places to justify adding these big ticket security items into other areas.

I do not fly as it is and have no plans too. If they start placing these things in malls and stadiums I guess I will be spending a lot less money.

burgundia 01-01-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by housemouse2 (Post 214300)

Imagine going to the mall and having to pass through a scanner just to enter the complex. Going to a ball game and having to be scanned.

2 days ago there was a shooting at a shopping center in Finland. 5 people dead including the perpetrator. (though it looks like it was a personal matter)

swordsmith 01-01-2010 10:51 PM

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boober, why are Smurfs Luciferians? All smurfs or maybe astro vera smurfs?

micjer 01-01-2010 10:57 PM

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http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...09/NoFly_D.jpg

RASKAR AS AR 01-01-2010 11:13 PM

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Germans Refuse to Install Full Body Scanners at Airports.

Germany will not participate in EU proposals for airports to use full-body scanner security checks, which have raised privacy issues, its interior ministry said tuesday.


"I can tell you in all clarity that we will not take part in this NONSENSE" a spokeswoman for the interior ministry told a regular news conference.The executive European Commission proposed last month to add body scanners to a list of security measures that can be used at airports in the 27-country bloc.

EU lawmakers criticized the scanners in a resolution last week, saying they were equivalent to "a virtual strip search" and raised serious human rights concerns calling the measure 'slightly fascist'. The lawmakers called for a detailed study of the technology before it is used.

The Commission says two EU states including Netherlands already use body scanners and the EU executive wanted to harmonize conditions in which they can be operated.

The scanners do not exist at German airports and have sparked vivid criticism by politicians across the political spectrum.
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/11503/53/

lindabaker 01-01-2010 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 213324)
I really do not understand your statement here...What was offensive to you? I wanted to add"from holidays"..but thought it wasn't necessary...I guess it was...

Yeah, maybe I over-reacted, but it is difficult these days not to do so. There is so much bashing of Americans. Most of us regular people are "in the same boat" as the rest of the world. The "powers" do NOT do the will of the American people and we have to pay the price in ill will from the rest of the world. We just want peace and a restoration of earth's beauty. Americans still have good intent, so it is a lesson in not taking things personally when the slightest hint of animosity surfaces from Europe. It was Transcoso's comment and then your comment that set me off, and I do not wish to ever assume animosity where there is none. My sincerest apologies for being overly sensitive. Some day I'll tell you stories about my last excursion to the continent. I can understand languages other than English. What people will say about each other when they assume the other party can't understand! Mean people suck, don't they? Happy New Year, B! and T! Linda

She-Ra 01-01-2010 11:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 214357)
2 days ago there was a shooting at a shopping center in Finland. 5 people dead including the perpetrator. (though it looks like it was a personal matter)


and the bomb at the sports field/venue in Pakistan.

Many public/tourist attractions already have airport style security like the scanners in the Arch at St. Lois, bag searches in museums, fingerprints at Disneyworld parks, soldiers and their weaponry at the Eiffel Tower etc.


I'm glad to hear Germany has rejected the scanners and called it nonsense... so far anyway...

lindabaker - I don't think you overreacted, it could easily have been construed as rude even as a joke (the who would want to go to America anyway and Americans going home with laughing smilie). My partner lives in America so we try to see each other as much as possible and I've been very frustrated/upset by airline staff and regulations over the years that make it harder and harder to travel and they wonder why it is a person can have friends or loved ones there and if they do it's looked down upon - and from what I've seen the 'why go to america' feeling is more aimed at that rather than the people in general but I'm sorry to hear you've personally experienced an attitude change from welcoming to otherwise.

Bobbie 01-02-2010 12:18 AM

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Reminds me of the Tom Cruise movie Minority Report. It's easy to make movies about these things if you are in someway responsible for orchestrating the future and know the outcome.....or think you do.
Quote:

Originally Posted by housemouse2 (Post 214300)
military industrial complex is still finding ways to scare people.

what will be next to place more of these scanners in the public use? Surely airports are just the tip of the ice berg.

Imagine going to the mall and having to pass through a scanner just to enter the complex. Going to a ball game and having to be scanned. Going to dinner and being scanned. Going shopping...any public place where people gather.

they won't stop at airports. New false flag attacks will happen in malls and other places to justify adding these big ticket security items into other areas.

I do not fly as it is and have no plans too. If they start placing these things in malls and stadiums I guess I will be spending a lot less money.


Bobbie 01-02-2010 12:33 AM

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I can certainly relate to what you're saying here Linda because I lived in Windsor, England and traveled in and around Europe for years....and still do. Every time something happens, it has been instilled in the general population via their media that they blame it on us and bash Americans without really knowing why. I can hear them now, "oh those American"....it's Americans this, and American's that and burning our flag. When all the time these folks are just pawns when they bash us and they are doing exactly what their governments have programmed them to do....which is create discord and discontent. They dont' want their people to like America.

I would venture to say that the NWO has a far greater hold on every other country in the world more than it does America, excluding China and the surrounding areas....and China's government has it's own type of hold on it's people. Americans remain the free-est nation on the planet but it's being stripped away from us fast. We are the last bastion.

We lived in England for many years and I know what the general population who are sheeple think - yet, some of my closest and dearest friends are British but they are British who have gotten out of the socialistic element and have seen the world and know the difference between who is free and who is not.

I'm certainly not pointing any fingers here, I am just saying that we, for the most part, are under the control of elements that want us to think what they want us to think and until someone has walked a mile in my shoes, then there should be no judgments...I really don't think there was any intended here and I wish only the best to everyone who has sense enough to be a part of the this forum.

Ya'll take care now, ya hear.


Quote:

Originally Posted by lindabaker (Post 214436)
Yeah, maybe I over-reacted, but it is difficult these days not to do so. There is so much bashing of Americans. Most of us regular people are "in the same boat" as the rest of the world. The "powers" do NOT do the will of the American people and we have to pay the price in ill will from the rest of the world. We just want peace and a restoration of earth's beauty. Americans still have good intent, so it is a lesson in not taking things personally when the slightest hint of animosity surfaces from Europe. It was Transcoso's comment and then your comment that set me off, and I do not wish to ever assume animosity where there is none. My sincerest apologies for being overly sensitive. Some day I'll tell you stories about my last excursion to the continent. I can understand languages other than English. What people will say about each other when they assume the other party can't understand! Mean people suck, don't they? Happy New Year, B! and T! Linda


lindabaker 01-02-2010 12:54 AM

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She-Ra and Bobbie, thanks for your kind comments. Peace. Linda

surreal 01-04-2010 07:09 PM

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Gordon Brown promises full body scanners at UK airports

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8438355.stm

This seems to be a europe-wide operation.

mkspllmn 01-04-2010 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace of mind (Post 212674)
I'm noticing the paterns. They Create fake terrorist attacks so they can take away more of your freedom. This new scanning system seems to be revealed at an very opportune time. Anyway, here's another link with video...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ody_scans.html

Peace

Now you are getting the idea.

housemouse2 01-04-2010 11:51 PM

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when you give up essential liberties for security you are neither free or secure. - Ben Franklin.


So, how much longer before these body scanners, metal detectors, armed guard, ect are in our local shopping malls?

Swanny 01-05-2010 09:46 AM

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Next comes the taser bracelet :thumbdown:

How long till they try to make everyone wear one everyday????????????????

I hate the way things are going on this planet

burgundia 01-05-2010 11:56 AM

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The worst part is that probably lots of people will be so willing to put the bracelet on...and so happy that someone thinks about their safety...:naughty::thumbdown:

micjer 01-05-2010 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 216534)
The worst part is that probably lots of people will be so willing to put the bracelet on...and so happy that someone thinks about their safety...:naughty::thumbdown:

You are so right! :wall:


Safe from false flag .... staged events too?

I was talking with a group of folks yesterday and was trying to get a reaction from them on this issue. Invasion of privacy, see through scanners, long lines, total harassment at airports, etc.

They all thought that if it made flying safer, then it was all worth it. Well my plan is not fly to the US.

Oh and here is another beauty. If you fly from Canada to Mexico, (flying over US airspace), you have to go through the same interogation as flying to the US! Just GREAT!

:shocked:


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