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War is Over
...if you want it.
http://imaginepeace.com/news/wp-cont...9/12/taxi2.jpg This is an updated image of the old poster that Yoko and John did together. These will be seen on new york cabs , very soon. |
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Peace Wins.
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This kind of artist ....activist...inspires me. it is a pleasure to share her , here. |
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Ono gives me the creeps :shocked:
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Something not quite right about her. I watched her on tele a few weeks ago and didn't like her vibe. I don't think John should have married her
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I have my own opinion of her too she is not the same person John married she has changed on several fronts it seems
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oh please, yoko oh-no thinks the Georgia Guidestones are something everyone should go see, heed, and later presumably drop by her Koolaid stand after visiting. Yoko is a BIG bread head and was very manipulative to John, when she was sick of him she sent him off to some woman she more or less procurred , later to decide she wanted him back in her web , just as he was about to break free. A black widow is how I see her.
no offense. It takes all kinds. |
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<sarcasm>So let's keep fighting over the personality of the messenger and forget all about the message, okay?</sarcasm>
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No such thing as war? perhaps not meant to but, however, Ant's and Chimpanzees declare war on each other. Hell Ant's even make slaves out of their prisoners, isn't nature amazing.... brutal and horrific at its purest but still amazing!
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Some one told her she could sing, she can't :zip:
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i perceive it as weakness to attact the messenger instead if the message... By weakness, i mean in the debate...not a personal weakness.. |
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Nature understands that balance...understands where and how to apply negative so that it balances with the positive. Perhaps we should change the term when applied to nature? any suggestions? |
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i grew up in a musical family, and though not born with a good voice, i enjoyed hours and hours of harmonizing with family and friends... i have a personal theory on one of the reasons humans sing... i gather that when early Man would hum... it "felt good " . the vibrations of the skull, the oxygen levels etc.... it was a pleasant thing to do... Ever listen to throat singing done by Inuits in Canada? (worth a Google search if you havent). \Not something i could listen to for hours but...wow! I still truly enjoy singing...it brings happiness to my heart... even though it might hurt other peoples ear... Look at the success of karaoke? Yoko..truly enjoys what she does...even if others do not... |
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I think it's actually quite important to look at the messenger , after all who do they work for? Especially when they are highly recommending the Georgia Guidestones , I mean ," let humans not be a cancer on the earth"?
jeeze, this woman is seriously rich, and how did she ( or anyone) get that way? She is renowned as a very hard nosed business woman and you can bet if need be she would have already bought a spot in the underground bunkers should " they " decide to more diligently rid the earth of human cancer = US. The only way to get rid of war is for humans to face their shadows, and that is why all the new age peace and love talk in the world will not do it, it's too fear based . Know thyself, warts and all. All this obsession with light, it needs to be turned on the darkness within our OWN psyches, we don't need Yoko for that . Here is a good talk for people wanting to further explore the shadow , the human condition and why there is war. War is not over just because Yoko says so , it's actually going to take some inner work and that takes real courage , a new age fluffy plaster or poster is not going to do it. http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-091217.php |
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i will give them weight because i wish to continue this discussion with you..but please know that i feel you did not need to open your comment with insults...it IS possible to discuss the messanger WITHOUT personal attacks... and know that if your attacks were to be generated at myself or anyone else presnt...i would NOT give your points any weight at all... that said... Yes, you are right.."look at the messgenger"... anaylyse perhaps the intent, and the motivation... but who they work for? ..hmm not everything is a conspiracy but i can see where perhaps that would be important.. Being rich these days is almost equated with being a "cancer" on society. Judging rich peoples actions as evil is commonplace... Angelina Jolie is an example...we are all humans...right? why all the new age peace and love talk in the world will not do it "do it"? what do you mean by it? end war? Visualization, is what that poster encourages...new age or not...it works...and you know this very well, dont you. Imagine if everyone believed that war was over? *celine laughs* quite the fantasy huh? |
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http://blog.art21.org/wp-content/upl.../warisover.jpg unknown soldier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHayV-V32E The Times They Are A-Changin' Come gather 'round people Wherever you roam And admit that the waters Around you have grown And accept it that soon You'll be drenched to the bone. If your time to you Is worth savin' Then you better start swimmin' Or you'll sink like a stone For the times they are a-changin'. Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin'. Come senators, congressmen Please heed the call Don't stand in the doorway Don't block up the hall For he that gets hurt Will be he who has stalled There's a battle outside And it is ragin'. It'll soon shake your windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'. Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'. The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is Rapidly fadin'. And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'. bob dylan Copyright ©1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music |
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you see a personal attack, I see your shadow. Not everything has to be kittens and rainbows.
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my shadow is very obedient... Everything doesnt have to be demons and acid rain.... try to look past your preconceived notions...and feel the passion |
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Btw, Yoko looks creepy to me, a dark being somehow, lol. Her eyes, are like a wolf disguised in sheep clothes.... never liked that woman. |
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Perception is everything... Words DO have power. Change requires many variables (action, reaction etc)...one of which is Believing... in change... |
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Or has it :sad: |
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Look at the millions of soldiers that choose to be at the armies around the world, they were free to decide to take that job, forget about your absurd ideas of a world without war; this world runs on it and it´s far from being over as it seems. Whenever persons like those exists, and they are not gonna dissapear like some giant evolutional leap you pray for, men and woman, you can still dream forever for throusands of years to come. You have to accept you are part of a poorly evolved and primitive yet animal-like species.
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Are those soldiers working to end war? or are they fighting to keep war perpetual?? |
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They are easily preys to brainwash to keep war perpetual, you said it, that´s the purpose. War is the best business for an empire. Indeed, the only one agressive enough to keep the empire alive.
When war ends in the planet, it will be placed outside the planet, is so predictable.... |
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This is ofcourse your humble opinion...and with respect i must say i dissagree. Do you belive that all peace workers should stop doing what they are doing? |
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When i said so?, i said that is pathetic, and has always been. You are free to choose the method you use to feel yourself free from the atroticites the empire wich you are citizen of makes over the years. But that empire is relentless, it´s made by the power of a majority of humans and you lightlovers are a huge minority yet. Lightlovers or simply anti-war people, and im one of them.
Im pessimistic about the future, with an ocean of reasons to think that way. You love and light won´t gonna change a thing. Never. At least not in a loooong time. But, it will improve your life personally and those around you, that´s for sure, i suppose. |
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Freedom is an illusion... i am a citizen of Terra.... again i ask you... do you believe peace workers should stop what they are doing? |
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I said it´s pathetic. That´s my opinion.
You can live up to a well known bunch of fancy words, but reality is something quite attractive to me to live in denial. |
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One sad thing about war is that is made by a minority of humans, soldiers. There are then, some people that manifest anti-war in a variety of ways, like here, and there are others that simply don´t move a finger.
It´s peculiar to see how that minority (soldiers) has such huge power to shape the world. To get to the point there were no human willing to join any army, there would be needed to be a system who provides everything to every human in this planet FIRST, even while there are still wars, so that would be the window of opportunity to make a world without wars: don´t make people homeless, don´t starve people, give jobs that dignify our presence here, free competition, etc. Money and capitalism are here as a test for everyone of us. There is no solution for capitalism, or greed. They are things that are there and will remain there forever; such things ask us everyday who we are. And how cheap we are. |
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a simple yes or no will do... |
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Im not gonna answer your question. And, you are not fighting for anything here; no one in avalon is, not even it´s founders or blowerwhistlersss. You are in your comfortable house with your comforable computer enjoying your fancyful beliefs, call it spiritual entertainment. That´s pathetic: to try to portrait yourself as if you were doing something that really changes the world while it doesn´t do anything.
Kerry And Bill do their awesome travels and their "awesome" interviews while they earn money whatever the ways they do because they portrait themselves as freedombearers.... they should portrait themselves, better, as paradigm bearers. AAAh i would like to travel like them too, donate to me!! TPTB laughs at all of you day by day. You wanna radically change things?, prepare yourself to war. Why you ask me more things?, i will say to you even more things you will dislike to hear. |
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this is a percestive that you brought up...i thought you would want to explore it with me...but i understand if this is to personal for you. |
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War is over and you are battling here...:winksmiley02:
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There is really no argument here? War fuels the great empire (elites) insatible hunger for control (of all) and its profits. Just like we allow poluting our environment for the sake of our spoon fed constant cravings for "things."
For anyone to finally wake -up to these truths of our reality, is not a negative; My generation (the babyboomers) once aspired to this > but sold out! I can accept one's frustration (even anger) regarding this issue, but not the resolve of accepting defeatism. We all are responsible for our current world situation and conditions. (If) We cannot get beyond this, then those elitist have won. But > what I see now> is their desperation, and many others > still possibly buying into it? We are born alone and will die alone on this plane, but we are one in consciousness forever. If you don't subscribe to this, then you are in the wrong place here at avalon. I will no longer pledge or support any believe system on this planet that perpetulates this insanity. I will live free or die~ but most likely the latter. as far as i'm concerned the war is over! I truly look forward too seeing all here in bliss :winksmiley02: |
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