Spate of banned members..
 

There has been a spate of banned members lately.

I have a suggestion. Instead of evicting members that do not easily follow the majority consensus, it might be more appropriate for the community to get together and participate in an intelligent conversation -- with the said member.

You know, communication can do wonders. If I thought these banned members were really trolls, I wouldn't be making this post. However, I can clearly see that they are not. They are more often than not members that do not agree with the forum consensus.

Anyone who goes against the forum consensus around here, and disagrees too often has two things happen: 1). Victimization by a group of regulars who have agreed what the consensus is (note: a new member may not "realize" that what they're saying isn't a forum consensus -- keep that in mind), 2). They are eventually banned for being a "troll". Ironically, if you go through the posts of all concerned, it is the regular members doing all the trolling and making all the insulting and negative comments.

So, My suggestion is: Take it easy with the ban button. Communication and sincerity works a LOT better. I haven't seen that tried around here. All I see are concerns being ignored and regular members being allowed to victimize whoever they like until they get upset, fire back, and are banned.

Do you want a constructive community or not? Then think about this post..

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As a new member myself I am curious , who got banned and for what? What type of censorship are discussing here?

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WarriorServant, Acora, both got banned. However WarriorServant has come back again today and is operating under other alias's. & truthwalker is one of them.

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It's not censorship per se. It's just that this forum has a mob of regulars who are free to go around saying what they like to and about other members. Unfortunately it is the newer members that are being banned, because they have trouble dealing with the mob.

To see who got banned, just look at some threads around here. You will see on the left: "banned", "banned", "banned".. then if you go and look at the last posts of the member, you will see that they often said nothing insulting at all, but were simply mobbed by a majority that didn't agree and didn't want to hear what the member said. It is the regular members that are being nasty. It's all right here in plain English for all to see. It's actually a bit of a joke.

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It's absolutely pointless to ban people. It makes more sense to work out what the problem is and fix it so the community can run better in the future. Banning anyone people don't like is silly. We all can't like everyone. That's life. Clicking "ban" is weak.

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Truthwalker, I answered your first thread pro-actively. However...I'm stunned that after joining today and starting you're thread-making (4 different threads in less than an hour) and responding to them that you had enough time to see that we had a "spate of banned members lately." I'm simply wondering if you were a lurker and joined recently because of this problem or if you really are a new member who had enough time to look through the past couple days of posts and responses.

I am not accusing you of anything, I'm just amazed quite frankly that you were aware of this problem already.

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I am aware of many many things, all about this forum, all about its members and all about the administration. I am here to make sure truth gets a chance.

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You only get banned when you break the rules. And they both broke the rules. They also had plenty of warning before the ban

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Perhaps there should be a section of Avalon...open only to banned members. You know...sort of an Internet Purgatory...called 'Island of the Banned'...'Banned Members Only'...or 'Rock Banned'! :mad3::lightsabre:

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:lmao: :lmao: :naughty:

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Warrior servant reborn!

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proof of reincarnation :wink2:

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See lets take this response as an example. This is obviously a serious thread. Then regulars come along and act like the proverbial class clown. This is exactly what is happening all over the forum by regulars who couldn't care less about anything that either themselve's or their buddies aren't saying.

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Irrelevant. Trolling. She does it all over the forums. A most unconstructive, trouble causing member.

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Banning happens, everywhere on alll forums lllike this one. What forum out their does not alllow the big "ban" theory. Is this your first time on a forum like this? I have not found one yet that allows anyone to anything they want to whoever they want however they want. So good luck trying to change this fact. Especially coming in as a new member, but I will support ya.

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Beside the point.

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I'm not very technical, but I'm trying to understand how the same banned person can keep creating aliases over and over again.

Is it just the username that is banned and nothing more?

Just curious.

I need this info in case I get banned. :winksmiley02: :lol3:

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This forum identifies banned members by IP, email, username and cookies.

Clear all the above things and you're set to go again.

Like I said: Banning is not only pointless -- it's weak. I understand banning "real" trouble makers (and those that spread porn), but real trouble makers aren't being banned. People who the majority (including the mods) don't agree with are being banned. It's weak. It's the easy way out. Members who post things that others don't agree with are being victimized and then thrown in the "too hard" basket. It can all be fixed and there's no need for the bans if people will just stop turning threads that they don't agree with into a hate filled mockery fest.

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Wouldn't that be just the same person conversing with their 13 different aliases?

"Rock Banned" - :naughty: Nice. :thumb_yello:

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It's a ridiculous idea that wouldn't solve a single problem.

This forum does not yet get it that allowing members to turn the threads of new members into a big joke is unconstructive. That's where the true problem lies. Until it is identified, mods are just going to keep banning people wondering why the whole world seems to be against them.

Banning people = useless.
Insisting on sincerity and not jokes, mockery and trolling by regulars = BINGO!

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I think there should be a mute button , like on chat rooms, if you dont like one particular person you can mute him or her. But people love drama.

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or multiple personality disorder:nono:

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Wont solve anything. People should just start being more sincere towards others. That's the true remedy of what people perceive to be hassles around here.

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Irrelevant post. Contributes nothing to the problem.

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This problem of banning is only for those who cannot be social enough to debate. And if you cannot do that constructively...you have no business here.

Hate filled mockery? The only ones that had any hateful response were the ones banned. And prompted it. so being that you are new here..maybe before you decide to be a judge..you might want to go back and read the banned members posts. Then decide. And come back with some constructive thoughts in the matter :thumb_yello:

As you are new here..it might be in your interest to also create some positive threads to assure you are not one of the banned members :naughty:

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I don't go around proclaiming positive energy. That's useless.

I fix problems. I don't stop until they're fixed.

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Why don't you guys answer his question instead of proving TruthWalker's point?

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Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:smoke:

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2 members were banned. Both were PM'ed from Moderators, as a line of communication. Both were given the opportunity to 'review' their statements and to try and fit in.

In regards to 'regular' members, several posts were made by Mods, to all those concerned, to refrain from posting unproductive remarks.

After careful consideration, the Moderator team 'worked out the problem' and action was taken.

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you mods, know how to,
rock it, and, roll it :original:

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Well lets see..

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I thought I did. And the truth be told..I actually befriended one of the banned members so to help him get his message out, and concerns. Only for him to go sideways again.

Anchor, you know as well as I that it can get heated out here, where discussion is concerned. But there are rules here too. And I have yet to see you ban anyone unless rules are broken. You and the other mods usually give plenty of warning before a ban.

So I feel this is a moot thread...my opinion only.

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I've seen a few long time PA forum people here act like complete jerks over the past few days.

I know exactly what is going on here. I also know that I cant stop it - but I also know that you can/could - but I wonder if it is likely to happen that way, so I guess we will see how this plays out.

What I want everyone to do is to act reasonably and within the forum guidelines (broadly interpreted)

Let each of us take full personal responsibility for every thought action word and deed, and be in harmony with ourselves and our otherselves.

A..

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Truthwalker=M1*=WarriorServant= a man who must begin to recognize Christ in others before he can truly Love God. Respecting others, loving others, understanding others, is Loving God.

For what you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me says the Christ.

Curious however, what exactly do you wish to prove M1*? Why do you continually belittle others posts if they do not meet whatever standard you have set up and try to control the forum like you own it? What's in it for you?

Why do you choose to not have respect for others viewpoints? Why do you wish to participate in a discussion forum when you don't really want to hear what others have to say unless it is exactly what you want to hear?

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People need to respect others opinions and let each other have a say.

A forum following such a spirit will answer all of your questions above.

I can't speak for anyone else - but I am here for serious, sincere and constructive dialog. If I cannot get that, I have to stop and make sure people wake up to themselves before I can continue saying what ever it is I wished to say -- in peace.

I do not attack others. I do not prevent others from voicing their opinion. I do not belittle others. I am a fair person who has been made out to be a troll, when in fact - I am one of the most serious people on this entire forum.

If I didn't care about truth, I wouldn't be shaking the place up. All that I say has a sincere reason. All that I do, even though it seems harsh, is intended to create mature conversation. I know I can't get that done unless I shake a few people. That's sad - but that's life.

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Don't shake to hard my friend, or your message will not get heard.

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My message wasn't getting heard in the first place.

If I didn't think I could make an example out of these people, I wouldn't be sitting here allowing them to make my point for me.

My point is slowly filtering through the forums, and everyone will be better off for it.

Until that time, I do apologize for all the seemingly useless distraction.

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If some one get banned and the general feeling towards that person is they are a twat why would they want to come back. Maybe they are a bit stupid??? :insane:

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This forum is no ones personal property. It belongs to many hundreds of people. It is not up to one person to come in and make their truth the truth for the others. This is simply not the way. It is not the way that Jesus taught, it is very disruptive to a community.

Community = Coming into Unity.

People on this forum come from completely and totally different backgrounds. There's no right or wrong here, there are a multitude of viewpoints and each member has a piece of the puzzle of truth. It is love that will take every member higher, not forcing our belief system on them.

Respect it the first key to being a member of any community including this one. Respect for differences.

Many threads may be started by a poster who wants to discuss one particular viewpoint, however, because this is a community, not owned by one person, the thread takes on a life of it's own. The subject will almost always expand from the original post. That is how truth comes out, that is how we learn.

The original poster does not own their thread any more than they own any of the members that are posting in it.

If we don't like what is being said in a thread, it is our choice to ignore it. There is absolutely no reason to tell people what they should and should not be posting.

There is also no reason to be negative with people. People are not here to fight, they are here to learn.

The reality is that we live in a very important time for humanity and this little community and many of it's members have great opportunities to grow in the Light and have their talents multiplied at the right time, to truly be leaders to help humanity move through the great tests it is facing ahead of us.

Love is the only way.

There is another reality, trying to disrupt the flow of a community like this, seeking to destroy it, even inadvertantly, represents a very great misuse of energy, whether or not we understand the concept of Karma, it should be clear that we indeed do reap as we sew.

Sew the wind (disruption, control, trying to control others free will), and we will reap the whirlwind.

Each of us has an opportunity here Now to help this world and to Be Love. To follow the words of Jesus rather than the words of the false churches that have hijacked his message using fear rather than love.

This is the opportunity for all of us. Why not choose the side of Light rather than the side of wanting to control others thoughts, posts and actions?

Let them Be, and you Be, and we'll all Be.

What do you say? Why not give it a try?

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I assure you I am not even close to stupid.

It is comments like this on the forum that cause distraction.