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Seashore 11-18-2009 03:38 PM

Camelot Clay and Shawn Pickering Audio Interview
 
:mfr_omg:

I only listened to the first few seconds of the three minute segment and I had to put it on pause to exclaim to myself about what I just heard.

I am really looking forward to this interview:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

eleni 11-18-2009 03:57 PM

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Am listening now.

THE eXchanger 11-18-2009 05:19 PM

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i am listening to: http://www.projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html

Seashore 11-19-2009 12:24 PM

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So far I've listened to the first hour of this interview.

I am very impressed with what a good job Kerry and Bill have done listening to what Clay and Shawn say, and then patiently, thoroughly, following up with pertinent questions to keep the interview on track and flowing.

I think they've demonstrated that they're "in the zone."

Spregovori 11-19-2009 09:42 PM

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I listened to the whole thing yesterday...half the time my mind was occupied with something else...but the recording was a nice "company". 4 people...

It was interesting with the usual *cant say more than this* and the very popular *this thing needs to get out*

I like the logical "integrity" of the conversation...

and

I like that Kerry and Bill tried to somehow connect the dots...to find some common ground...to compare what other stated.... This should be done more...as I have already said and written before.

Antonia 11-19-2009 09:53 PM

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I know Clay and Shawn said they thought these rock/diamond thingys the controlers were ancient entities from beyond this Galaxi but their discription of being so hot and diamond like and shape shifters and interdimentional I immeadietly thought of beings from the Sun... Our Sun? Or any Star? As much channeled materials I have read refer to great beings of wisdon who live on the Sun and on stars.. these fire beings are at home on a much higher dimension and have subtle bodies made of light and gas and fire ..basically the same stuff as stars just like we are made of the same stuff as our planet earth ie..carbon/water/ light etc....
The ancients always worshiped the Sun Gods... who they believed lived in the sun etc .....even RA was the sun God???

Seashore 11-19-2009 10:30 PM

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This stuff is so amazing!

eleni 11-20-2009 12:08 AM

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Antonia- maybe they are from a different universe? That came to mind- so not only another dimensional level but a different universe entirely?

Pleiadian 11-20-2009 12:27 AM

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has anyone thought that these diamonds/rocks could be a machine (an advanced machine of some kind) ?

eleni 11-20-2009 01:41 AM

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I thought of that.......I am really wondering what the body modification is that Source A has to undergo. Sounds drastic and why can't we know?

Gnosis5 11-20-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 189588)
I thought of that.......I am really wondering what the body modification is that Source A has to undergo. Sounds drastic and why can't we know?

In the book of case studies, "Have you Lived Before this Life", there was one particular case I found very fascinating that this brings to mind.

The client recalled a lifetime he spent in another of what he noted were 16 universes or dimensions (I don't recall exactly). He was a crystal being and then something went wrong and he was jerked into another totally 3D humanoid incident.

Theoretically a fully potentiated being could create any style universe he can conceive. Now that you bring this up I'll try to make a point to notice anything related to crystal beings in my ongoing research. So far I've gone up the chain of command only as high as the Annunaki, who are themselves either multi-versals or hyperversals or both and they consider themselves keepers of the tech.

Gnosis5 11-20-2009 04:11 AM

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To fill in about some Greys, we have taken enough people to between lives recall that it is becoming commonplace to find a pod of Greys ruled over by a Reptilian. The purpose of their programming and implanting humans seems to be related to having a labour force and to bring the planet up to an ecoenviro that is suitable for Greys.

Here is the thread of my notes on two separate people's sessions. Now there has also been a third person independently confirming what I and another person saw that occurred in our between lives times.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...hlight=Nannies

Gnosis5 11-20-2009 04:20 AM

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Some thoughts while listening to Clay and Shawn:

When we were doing our research into possibilities of stabilizing the planet using our own technologies we suddenly found ourselves being curiously examined by a council of Annunaki (I think it was them).

They were especially very curious about my instructor who is a typical "un-guru", yet who is creating some big waves. I processed out of this council group a traumatic incident that involved myself when I was a different being on a different planet, different time. When we cleared that up they took up the tech we are using with great interest and sort of ran with it and I was aware that they have a research ship or satellite.

El Ragoczy 11-20-2009 12:03 PM

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Are the Crystalline Beings, the Diamond Rocks, working with our Dna in this first contact? I am thinking about this because of the form they have choosen. It is like they are teaching us to open our minds to new ways of thinking. I felt this to be true when listening to the Interview. It was like I connected with the crystalline essence and telepathically received this understanding. It feels like they want to Re-Constitute our fear based Dna to Crystalline Dna or what it is called. I think this is also the case with the reptilians and our reptilian Dna. We have Dna from many different species. I think it is 22 and the reptilian is one of them.
Blesssings,

El

solent 11-20-2009 02:44 PM

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Just visited the Camelot front page and the interview links etc have been taken down? Whats going on please Bill & Kerry, please will you inform us of the reasoning behind this.. Thanks.

Seashore 11-20-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by solent (Post 189726)
Just visited the Camelot front page and the interview links etc have been taken down? Whats going on please Bill & Kerry, please will you inform us of the reasoning behind this.. Thanks.

I see them there...

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

Seashore 11-20-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by El Ragoczy (Post 189684)
Are the Crystalline Beings, the Diamond Rocks, working with our Dna in this first contact? I am thinking about this because of the form they have choosen. It is like they are teaching us to open our minds to new ways of thinking. I felt this to be true when listening to the Interview. It was like I connected with the crystalline essence and telepathically received this understanding. It feels like they want to Re-Constitute our fear based Dna to Crystalline Dna or what it is called. I think this is also the case with the reptilians and our reptilian Dna. We have Dna from many different species. I think it is 22 and the reptilian is one of them.
Blesssings,

El

This is your first post!

:welcomeani:

solent 11-20-2009 03:52 PM

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Thanks Seashore, I noticed the ip addy I have is .net not .org

Using the .net extension doesn't show the updated front page :winksmiley02:

Seashore 11-20-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by solent (Post 189748)
Thanks Seashore, I noticed the ip addy I have is .net not .org

Using the .net extension doesn't show the updated front page :winksmiley02:

I'm confused about what you're saying.

They're the same:

http://www.projectcamelot.net/

solent 11-20-2009 04:50 PM

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:mfr_lol: Now I'm confussed also, because I just used your link .net and yes I get the updated page, but when I used my .net link which was saved in my "Favorites Folder" it didn't show the update, even after clearing the cache etc. Very strange, anyway thanks. :thumb_yello:

Seashore 11-20-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by solent (Post 189758)
Very strange, anyway thanks. :thumb_yello:

You're very welcome. Computer stuff can be mystifying at times...

mntruthseeker 11-20-2009 10:23 PM

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I came away with mixed feelings after listening to this interview.

One very happy to have contact is a given but do I want the Reptilians involved period. I know that they most deffinately want to take over and will if given the least bit of room

As far as the Crystal rock image I right away went to "orbs" that everyone is seeing. I also know that the Praying Mantis are high up in the chain of power of what is decided.

I dont have a bad feeling about the praying mantis and know that they can't stay in our atmosphere for very long at all so I understood Kerrys question on more than once asking where the meeting held place.

Makes we wonder if they are the conformers.

I have heard that the reptilians shape shift into more than one specie also

I just read a book that is not published that my friend wrote and I am lost at what has happened. She talked quite abit about the praying mantis and I just went back to find out again how she describe the form they took and her describtion of why and how and somehow the book is not accesible to me any longer. I can't imagine how that happened when it was in my programs.

I do know that I have no fear of them but I have to wonder about the agenda of the reptilians and the connection if there is any. Her book never mentioned the reptilians at all but I do know she was not pleased with TPTB's.

Lionhawk 11-20-2009 10:51 PM

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Thank-you first of all to Kerry and Bill. That was a difficult interview to do. A long one as well. I am sure they received tons of emails over that one and maybe not in a positive light. I would leave it up however on the site even though it wasn't one for the record books.

The reason why I say that is because I think it gave a good overview of how this stuff has been handled. Why it seems to lead to a dead end in terms of results. Clearly there has to be an agenda here hidden. Not by the Bros necessarily, but by this ET race. This interview is another example of a lot of the same trails leading to the same place. That place being an agenda.

I also don't get any ill will vibrations from the Gumbys. But why are they here? Especially in an environment that isn't compatible with their own physical being. If they have been whether on the surface or on a ship nearby, why expend the resources and several thousand years just for curiosity sake? Something just doesn't add up.

I always seem to deduce everything down to the DNA components of our species and the harvesting of that. Let alone all the other ET exploits that go on behind our back, along with all these factions just exploiting everything and everyone across the board here on the Planet. I just don't get it in this light. And then to also state that the Universe doesn't have a lot of livable worlds just starts to make feel less valuable than a cow.

This Planet is obviously targeted on so many levels that it makes my hard head spin. How are we supposed to overcome this? The rumor is that we already won. Whoooaaaa! Now that's a statement. But when I look out my window, what do I see? The same old manure with taxes being increased on that. ET factions mining our resources such as gold, eating our children, eating our brothers and sisters, in the meantime we are supplying the sweat equity so that we are also enabling these factions. Where's all the Love and Light in that? Can I rant here? When I ask the question of why are they here, I know they wouldn't be here if there wasn't something for them. I don't buy idle curiosity. I don't buy the idea that they are galactic engineers and are studying us for future worlds. They should ask permission to do so and respect our free agency if this world is truly ours. That also brings up another question that I have asked before. Is this world truly ours or is it our arrogance that gives us that false entitlement?
Anybody?

Maybe something we can do here at Avalon is get a big picture board and organize what we do know based on the proof that we have as to all of these agendas. I mean if they are entertaining a Warrior Forum Project, I would think that part of that would be to include all these known agendas, the who's who behind them in such a fashion that would give us a clear idea of what is going on and why. Just like this forum and all the threads are compartmentalized just like how the PTB do. But base it on the facts and facts based on the proof that we have. Or present such a picture board with all the probabilities and then proceed with the talents here to prove them out. What I see is that there are to many singularities with only one end game that matters. That being the truth. How are we to enter the Galaxy when we are so unorganized to represent this Planet in the first place? How are we going to command that which is our sovereignty as one with the Planet when we know really nothing of what is going on the very world we find ourselves on? I challenge anyone on this forum to at least try to answer some of these questions in a healthy way. If we never try then what are we going to do, because on present course we will all be victims of our own demise? I don't call that taking responsibility. There has to be a point where we have to take a stand somewhere. Then act on that.

I leave my ranting to you.

Blessings!



Seashore 11-20-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lionhawk (Post 189874)
Maybe something we can do here at Avalon is get a big picture board and organize what we do know based on the proof that we have as to all of these agendas. I mean if they are entertaining a Warrior Forum Project, I would think that part of that would be to include all these known agendas, the who's who behind them in such a fashion that would give us a clear idea of what is going on and why. Just like this forum and all the threads are compartmentalized just like how the PTB do. But base it on the facts and facts based on the proof that we have. Or present such a picture board with all the probabilities and then proceed with the talents here to prove them out. What I see is that there are to many singularities with only one end game that matters. That being the truth.

Are you saying include the picture board as part of what the Project Light Warrior website will offer?

mntruthseeker 11-20-2009 11:35 PM

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I was told praying mantis were from the 8th Dimension by an insider who knows for a fact.

I heard the eating of our children bought up and denied which also bothered me. If they are reptilians its no surprise that they have used us for their meals for eons. So did some evolve out of that? This has been brought to my attention before. oh boy more thoughts popping up all the time

I too have many questions especially when its to be aligned with what TPTB's decide to do. Who needs them ? Who really cares if they are forced off this planet forever ?

I would like to see this happen without their assistance and I guess its up to us.

One thing I do know is I didnt walk away feeling any type of fear. We have no chance against them was said so we all know they could of taken us over anytime......unless it goes back to whether we ask for assistance or not.

NOT

Seashore 11-21-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 189887)
I heard the eating of our children bought up and denied which also bothered me. If they are reptilians its no surprise that they have used us for their meals for eons. So did some evolve out of that? This has been brought to my attention before. oh boy more thoughts popping up all the time

Maybe it's only the Draco reptilians that do this.

mntruthseeker 11-21-2009 02:03 AM

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who knows Seashore The description of T-Rex was something else that made me think of the mantis

I guess I will have to go look at the site that was put out here once before that had some very good pictures.

Seashore 11-21-2009 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 189945)
who knows Seashore The description of T-Rex was something else that made me think of the mantis

I guess I will have to go look at the site that was put out here once before that had some very good pictures.

I guess I don't understand.

You're wondering about the eating of children by reptilians (T-Rex) brought up and denied?

How does the mantis fit in?

eleni 11-21-2009 02:21 AM

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Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

Seashore 11-21-2009 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 189951)
Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

This is not proof, I guess, but Stewart Swerdlow writes about it in graphic detail in Blue Blood, True Blood. If you're not familiar with Stewart, here is his biography:

http://bielek.com/stewart.htm

eleni 11-21-2009 03:49 AM

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I'm all too familiar with Stewart. I don't mean that in a negative way- I survived Montauk as well and indeed he was one small portion of my memory (as later confirmed by him) . That said........I am still quite awed at the *intact memories that seem to go on forever regarding these projects*. Why?
Because number one- drugs and serious mind control devices were implanted.

I have terrible childhood memories of Montauk (LSD, sexual situations, weird rooms ET's, murder, etc) yet none of my memories involve reptilians eating
people. That is not to say I am an authority on it, and maybe if I underwent hypnosis specifically on Montauk I would uncover way more than my conscious memories are allowing me to remember.

I do however remain skeptical of a lot of his claims. Not to say some are not valid- but many seem far fetched.
Please don't forget, A LOT of drugs and mind control went on there and it's easy to make people believe things using technology etc; we have to remember where the Montauk project originated from.

mntruthseeker 11-21-2009 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 189949)
I guess I don't understand.

You're wondering about the eating of children by reptilians (T-Rex) brought up and denied?

How does the mantis fit in?

Kerry asked about the reptilians eating our children and it was denied.

Also the descriptions of the T-Rex was all too weird and he said it looked insecticide (maybe I was just taking too much in tonight) My mind maybe just foggy. Guess I need a rest



Eleni, I feel for you and wonder if you ever heard of Robert Bruce

http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/

I heard him speak and this man may be able to help you and he doesnt charge a thing. A real hero in my book but when I heard him on C2C he was advising people with questions like yours to send him an email

Seashore 11-21-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 189967)
I'm all too familiar with Stewart. I don't mean that in a negative way- I survived Montauk as well and indeed he was one small portion of my memory (as later confirmed by him) . That said........I am still quite awed at the *intact memories that seem to go on forever regarding these projects*. Why?
Because number one- drugs and serious mind control devices were implanted.

I have terrible childhood memories of Montauk (LSD, sexual situations, weird rooms ET's, murder, etc) yet none of my memories involve reptilians eating
people. That is not to say I am an authority on it, and maybe if I underwent hypnosis specifically on Montauk I would uncover way more than my conscious memories are allowing me to remember.

I do however remain skeptical of a lot of his claims. Not to say some are not valid- but many seem far fetched.
Please don't forget, A LOT of drugs and mind control went on there and it's easy to make people believe things using technology etc; we have to remember where the Montauk project originated from.

eleni,

I had no idea you had this in your biography!

In the chapters "Blood-Ritual & Ceremony" and "Ritual in Red" of Blue Blood, True Blood Stewart writes about himself functioning as the "Vessel" in sexual ritual involving the "God" and "Goddess."

Have you met Stewart? Another (former) Avalon member claims in this post that Stewart was not in the Montauk Project and in this post that he knew him personally, but would not give details.

My sense is that Stewart has overcome the mind control he was subjected to, but of course, I don't know. You said devices implanted. You're referring to a physical device that would have to still be controlling the individual? How about yourself?

You're familiar with Duncan Cameron, Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols and their claims? I am very interested in your perspective. For sure, the story is bizarre. I'm interested in what parts you think are untrue.

Bless you, eleni. You survived. Stewart has said most Montauk children did not.

Have you posted your story on another thread?

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-21-2009 10:45 AM

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all this reminds me of one of my favourite computer games ever.. reptilians , star gates ect


intersting game ..

Luminari 11-21-2009 12:50 PM

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http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/w...mondLogo77.gif

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/w...64-71_a-76.jpg


Great interview Bill & Kerry!

Thank you Clay and Shawn :thumb_yello:

eleni 11-21-2009 03:23 PM

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MNtruthseeker- I loved Robert Bruce's book- I feel it's one of the best books on inner journeying/astral travel out there.
How do you mean he can help?



I know Preston- not Al or Duncan C. Did you know Duncan O's father worked at Montauk?

As far as meeting Stewart and the thread you linked as well as my very long story in a nutshell.......

I am supposedly part of the Lebensborn program (Mengele genetics program) I was sold on the black market to a prominent family and I grew up on Long Island.

If I wrote my story it would out famous people who are still alive and I cannot do that due to my family circunstances.

So I can write parts of it. If my mother passes I wil write it all out (my adopted father is dead) however my biological mother is in hiding and has been for many years as she is still very scared. Hopefully one day she will come forward as well so that the public can gain a better picture of what this program entailed.

During her pregnancy she was moved to Nevada (from Northern Europe) after 5th month to New York where I was born. Her room mate was another
pregnant German girl. The OB/GYN who was in charge of the women during their pregnancies (name Dr. Weinberg) committed *suicide*. His daughter however is still alive...

My (bio) mother won't talk much about my natural father- she says he was CIA and he had *these eyes* and she was raped.......it's very traumatic for her to speak about.

I know I'm not saying anything of Montauk but I am just giving you my background info.

In late 2001 I was walking in the small village I lived in with my then 18 month old daughter. I was not living in NY- I have not lived there in 20 years.
A disheveled looking man walked up to me and said he knew me/recognized me. I said "really" and he said yes, you grew up on LI, right? I said "yes"
and he named the town I grew up on. I was intrigued. Then he said he had worked at Brookhaven and asked me if I knew it. I said I had heard of it.
He said- I know you from there and Motauk. I thought he seemed a bit crazy for saying all this but he was onto something as I had retained all these weird conscious memories. He then walked me over to his car and opened his trunk where he pulled out 2 books- one of them was Blue Blood True Blood . I went home and read them and I thought he was even crazier.

Not because of the subject but I just found SS's book to be far fetched.

It wasn't until years later that I even saw a pic of SS and I instantly recognized him so I contacted him. He said he knew me and that the man in the village was a plant and that the event was designed to be a trigger event.

I wish I could answer your question in regards to SS. I do recognize him though- very similar to the male I was placed with on regular basis back then but as I say that one closer to my age. I think I can say SS was involved at least in the Reichian portion. I have no idea if he was indeed sent to Montauk chair etc; I can say one other thing 100%- this is going to sound very weird but they had this way of placing one in an alternate reality/matrix where you were asked to carry out a duty (whether it be taking someone out etc) and you were led to believe you were another person. Hard for me to convey this so maybe this will make more sense this way- you can be such and such an age but they had the ability to make you older and another person entirely to carry out a mission (usually not a good one). I don't know how this works though- it seemed more real than strictly a form of mind control.

The 2 males I was placed with on a regular basis were closer to my age.
I do not know where they are now nor do I know their names. Only their faces from way back then.

Sorry, I have not provided more info on Montauk. It really would take my writing a book to explain whole story and there are parts I don't want to delve into as it's scary/traumatic.

Yes, I have an implant. I don't know who put it there (aliens or humans working with them) it's near crease where my ear attaches head on right ear. I can feel it. it emits codes. I wish I could have it removed.
People can see it too- there is a bump where skin covers it but you can feel that it is shaped perhaps like a tiny rod.

eleni 11-21-2009 03:31 PM

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Seashore- Yes, the story is bizarre- there are so many parts to it and I certainly don't have the full picture because I was used in one portion (pretty sure) which involved the genetic program combined with Reichian sexual programming used to harness etheric energies (my analysis of it anyhow)
to further power their programs.

So I would be the last person to know. However I can say 100% that drugs were used on us as small children. Specifically LSD. I have memories of being on an acid trip as a young child. I really don't want to go there because it was very scary for me.

There were times when I would get back to my house with vomit all over my nightgown and everyone in the house was under some sort of deep sleep and I couldn't wake them up.

I used to wake up without my underpants. I would find them sometimes at the bottom of the bed or they would be missing entirely.

I need to stop writing this now- I am starting to cry.

eleni 11-21-2009 03:36 PM

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BTW- on another forum (the one where Clay and Shawn and Source A have their own section) there is some interesting talk about the blob/biosuit ET's.

Seems they are from a lower dimension than us.Has to do with them being older containing different parts of which they are made up of. I found it interesting reading to say the least......

Seashore 11-21-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 190066)
I know Preston- not Al or Duncan C. Did you know Duncan O's father worked at Montauk?

No, I didn't!!

Seashore 11-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eleni (Post 190066)
I am supposedly part of the Lebensborn program (Mengele genetics program) I was sold on the black market to a prominent family and I grew up on Long Island.

:mfr_omg: I'm starting to cry. It's going to take me awhile to be able to read the rest of this...


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