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orthodoxymoron 10-15-2009 05:40 PM

Sirius Issues
 
I am hereby launching into something which I know very little about...yet which seems to be at the center of everything. I am speaking of the star Sirius. I have no idea what direction this thread will take. I have no agenda. I just wish to begin studying everything connected with Sirius...and communicate with other people concerning this subject. To get the ball rolling...here are some videos and threads:

1. What is Giza Intelligence?: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...a+intelligence

2. Secret History of America's Beginnings: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...729#post165729 Riddles in Stone: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+dc+symbolism# Skip to 20:00-35:00 and 2:28:00 for relevance.

3. The Dogon/Sirius Mystery: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ighlight=dogon

4. God, Jesus, Lucifer, Satan, Etc: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

5. Lucifer: Deity of the Elite: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...179#post163179

6. Secrets of the Vatican: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

7. The United States of the Solar System: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878

8. Red Letter Church: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

9. Reptilians and Mind Control: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

10. "V" Movie (Series) Revisited: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

11. Jesus: The Last Pharaoh?: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

12. Alien Advice: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

13. Tell Me Who I Am: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

14. The Dulce Book: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...817#post179817

15. New World Order: Devil in the Vatican: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...745#post167745

16. Superimposed Parallel Universes: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...255#post178255

17. More Sirius Resources: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sirio.htm#menu

18. Stargate SG-1: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17834

19. Amen Ra: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223

20. Open Letter to the Beings of the Universe: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...eings+universe

21. Moonraker: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19284

22. Who Are Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer? http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...%2C+lucifer%3F

23. Thuban Thoughts: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20379

24. The Lucifer Effect: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...lucifer+effect

25. Very Cool Short Videos: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...l+short+videos

Videos:

1. YouTube-The Dogon & the Sirius Mystery Part 1

2. YouTube- The Dogon Code: Linking Egypt and West Africa Pt.1

3. YouTube- Atenism, The Dog Star, Fallout, and The Birds of Paradise (HD)

4. YouTube- ET Contactee Sheldan Nidle Tour of a Sirian Mothership Galactic Federation of Light Spokesperson

tone3jaguar 10-15-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
We remote viewed a civilization around Sirius during the CSETI training / outing I was on. Multiple people from he group reported visions of a civilization / city that looked like it was made out of geometric light. I guess there are supposed to be multiple civilizations around this star on different planets.

orthodoxymoron 10-15-2009 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 178231)
We remote viewed a civilization around Sirius during the CSETI training / outing I was on. Multiple people from he group reported visions of a civilization / city that looked like it was made out of geometric light. I guess there are supposed to be multiple civilizations around this star on different planets.

Thank-you. Are the Sirians mediators between us and the Dracs (mediators between God/Satan and Man...playing the role of a sort of Christ)...OR are they in league with the Dracs to enslave and destroy us? Something very wrong is going on here on Earth. I'm just trying to figure out exactly what is wrong...and how to correct it. Are the Sirians trying to prepare us to stand up to the Dracs on our own? Do we have to get our act together by Dec. 21, 2012? Is this when the Sirians leave us to our own devices? Are the DUMB's and the Secret Space Program designed to defend the solar system against the Dracs once the Sirians pull out?
Are we preparing for a Drac-Attack? :mfr_omg::lightsabre: 'I'm suffering a Drac-Attack!'
I'm not basing this on anything I have heard or read. I'm just wondering. I'm trying to keep an open mind. I don't know what to think or believe. I just think we are in a huge amount of trouble...but I'm not sure what the nature of that trouble really is. I'm not sure I want to know either. Everyone has been lying to us...so it must be pretty darn bad.

tone3jaguar 10-15-2009 06:42 PM

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Man, I have no clue what any of that means. What is it based on?

Seashore 10-16-2009 01:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 178228)

Concerning the trinary star system for Sirius, Stewart Swerdlow claims in Blue Blood, True Blood, "There are rumors in the artificially created New Age movement that Sirius is actually a trinary star system. This is totally false. Three stars revolving around one another would create an energetic field that would pull them into each other, thus destroying them. There can be no physically sustainable model for such a system."

I don't know how this statement compares with the assertion about a red dwarf and scientists confirming a trinary system.

Also, Stewart says that "Merfolk" were hybrids of humans and dolphins and they were created by the Atlanteans and/or the Sirians.

He also describes what beings from the planet Khoom from the Sirius A star sytem look like, and beings from a "jungle/swamp-like planet" of Sirius B. Neither sound like fish people.

By the way, he says Sirius A beings have an agreement with the Israeli government.

Stargazer1965 10-16-2009 03:23 PM

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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_D1oHua6fgh4/St...s800/DOGON.jpg

orthodoxymoron 10-16-2009 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 178252)
Man, I have no clue what any of that means. What is it based on?

tone3jaguar: Perhaps you can provide us with a hierarchy of power in this universe...and where the Draconians, Sirians, and Humans are located in this hierarchy. Then perhaps you will understand my comment. What is any of what we discuss based on?

Thank-you all for your contributions. Perhaps it is helpful to look at North Africa (including Egypt) as a whole rather than just looking at the Dogon tribe. My quest has recently narrowed to Draco/Draconian Reptilians, Orion(including Sirius)/Greys, and 'our' Solar System/Humans. Perhaps this is over-simplified...but I have a simple mind...which is easily confused.

Stargazer1965 10-16-2009 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 178494)
tone3jaguar: Perhaps you can provide us with a hierarchy of power in this universe...and where the Draconians, Sirians, and Humans are located in this hierarchy. Then perhaps you will understand my comment. What is any of what we discuss based on?

Thank-you all for your contributions. Perhaps it is helpful to look at North Africa (including Egypt) as a whole rather than just looking at the Dogon tribe. My quest has recently narrowed to Draco/Draconian Reptilians, Orion(including Sirius)/Greys, and 'our' Solar System/Humans. Perhaps this is over-simplified...but I have a simple mind...which is easily confused.

Hey Oxy....

It's almost like you can chart the extraterrestrial intervention like a tree diagram. Like the Dogons...they migrated from Egypt with there legacy of fish type aquatic god.

Others in India speak of the same kind of visitation....and they originally came from ?????

Get my drift?

If we take the pieces I bet we can see that all these type legends spring from a common source.

orthodoxymoron 10-16-2009 05:21 PM

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I agree. I see the general concept. I don't see the details...yet.

orthodoxymoron 10-20-2009 02:34 AM

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I'm feeling really close to the truth...yet really far away. I'm thinking that Sirius is at the center of everything...yet I'm not sure exactly how.

Could it be that the God of This World is a Draconian-possessed androgynous black human alien from Sirius who heads Giza Intelligence, the Secret Space Program, and the Deep Underground Military Bases...and who is the real Black Pope? Could the Ark of the Covenant be the UFO which brought us here from Sirius along with technology obtained from Draconian-demons in exchange for allowing the Draconians to possess the elite-humans? Is this solar system really part of the Siran solar system? Is our sun really Sirius C? Is the ancient depiction of three suns really Sirius A, Sirius B, and Sirius C? Are the tall greys from Sirius, really just human beings? Did we all come from Sirius? Is there a stargate between this solar system and Sirius? Is all of the cr@p we have been in for millions of years really a Sirian civil war? Are we all different factions of Sirians? Would my pet project of The United States of the Solar System really have to apply to Sirius as well? Is Sirius the All Seeing Eye at the top of the pyramid? Is Sunday really Sun God Day? Is this sun really Sirius? Is the Roman Catholic Church all about Sirius? Are the Masons all about Sirius? Are the occultists all about Sirius? Is the layout of Washington D.C. all about Sirius? Is the Sirian Theocratic System really the Universal Church aka The Holy Roman Empire aka the New World Order?

How answerest thou...SaLuSa?

orthodoxymoron 10-21-2009 12:51 AM

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I just finished modifying the first post. I think it is a worthy place to do some Sirius research. This sort of thing is almost like getting a degree in disorientation. I'm feeling like I'm venturing into forbidden territory with this subject and these threads. I continue to wonder if this pursuit even registers with anyone who monitors sites such as this one. My guess is that the exposure is so small...that it raises very little, if any, alarm. This is probably the proper place to discuss these subjects. I don't discuss them at work...and I don't go to church and raise heck during Sunday school classes...or argue with church members. I don't recommend causing trouble with any of this information. Just get informed...and start positively reinforcing the best that you find in society. This will result in evolutionary rather than revolutionary change. I think the world may go nuts anyway in the next few years. Fasten your seatbelts.

orthodoxymoron 10-21-2009 10:23 PM

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I'm going to continue to speculate. Could Nibiru be Sirius C? Or could our sun be considered to be Sirius C? I don't know...but I'm looking for connections between our solar system and the Sirian solar system. This includes ET's, Stargates, Symbology, Mythology, Archeology, Paleoastronomy, etc, etc. If what I currently think about Sirius is true...then I would expect a massive effort to cover up the truth about Sirius. This could be the real Greatest Story Ever Told. Please do some digging folks. Robert Temple did some digging...and this is what he experienced: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/un...sp_sirio11.htm Please read this link in its entirety. It contains some very interesting information. There were obviously some powerful people who did not want anyone taking Sirius too seriously. Here is an excerpt from this link (I printed this to whet your appetites! I don't usually do this!):

"But the sad part of the aftermath of The Sirius Mystery was the extreme and virulent hostility towards me by certain security agencies, most notably the American ones. Since I am myself an American by origin, I found this insulting and distressing. On several occasions I was targeted in ways so extreme that they seemed hysterical beyond all belief. I am certain that false information was entered into my security files to blacken my reputation. I was blackballed even in some organizations which seem to me so harmless that I still can't understand it.

To give an example, I was co-editing a magazine at one time and decided to join the Foreign Press Association (FPA) in London so that I could have lunch there and get a press pass. I was told I needed two members to recommend me, and was given the names of two American journalists in London who should be happy to do so. So I asked Bonnie Angelo of Time-Life, and she was delighted. (I later wrote for her London bureau for several years and did British science reporting for Discover magazine.) I then went to another man who was equally friendly and he said he would, and signed my form. That particular man, whom I do not wish to identify, had certain connections in Washington, if you take my meaning. A few hours later, Catherine Postlethwaite, the Secretary of the FPA, told me she had a hysterical phone call from a man insisting that he wanted to use his blackball against me and stop me from joining the FPA. She was completely astonished and said to him he had just signed my form and now on the same day he was trying to blackball me, and how could he possibly explain that? He refused to explain, but was relentlessly insistent. She and the Council took the view in the end that the man was acting unreasonably, for whatever motives, and they overruled his blackball. But I recognized a pattern of behavior which has assailed me on many occasions. There was another time, for instance, when I had commenced what was meant to be a profitable association with a man I knew to make several series of corporate videos, with me as writer and co-producer and his company providing the finance and facilities. We made one video and suddenly everything stopped mysteriously. After some time he told me: 'I really wanted to do these projects with you, but I can't, and even though I am not supposed to tell you, I felt that I owed you an explanation. The fact is that I have had the CIA from America on the phone to me practically every day for the past three weeks harassing me and telling me I must not work with you, and as much as I like you, my life isn't worth living with this kind of continual pressure and interruption of my work every day by hysterical American officials. So that is the reason, and the only reason, why I am withdrawing from our projects together.' I thanked him for being so honest with me.

Several other people were as well. Indeed, one old fellow I was friendly with, a retired Brigadier Shelford Bidwell, actually told me that he had been asked to read The Sirius Mystery and write a thorough report on it for the British security services. He had found it rather difficult because it was not his kind of subject! He hadn't meant to tell me this, but he slipped up when chatting over tea and said by way of being pleasant how interesting The Sirius Mystery was. When I expressed astonishment that he had read something so far from all his other interests, he first said that he had read every word meticulously, as if that explained everything. When I protested that this was quite unbelievable, he had to explain why he had done so. He was so sheepish and embarrassed that I spared him further questioning so that he wouldn't have to spend the rest of his life with a security breach on his conscience.

Another old friend, whom I had known when he was a policeman in a panda car and who is now a famous police commissioner, said he had been approached by MI5 to do a security report on me. He had found it disturbing that there was such suspicion attached to me, and he couldn't explain it, since he wasn't given an explanation himself. He tried to tell them there was nothing at all suspicious about me and that he knew me well, and he wrote up everything he could find about me trying to demonstrate that I was harmless. But they didn't seem to want to be told that and were obviously unsatisfied, which disturbed him even more. This prosecution went on for more than fifteen years. It cost me income, career opportunities, advancements, and friends. I often wonder about it, especially the frenzied aspects of it. Why were so many people in high places foaming at the mouth in such an uncontrollable manner? Just what was it that I had done? I have never known."

[We do. What Temple had done was to violate the inviolate. Just as the infamous "Brookings Report" documented at the dawn of NASA, and as Arthur C. Clarke reiterated 9 years later in "2001 - A Space Odyssey," there must be a period of preparation before certain disturbing truths can be revealed. Obviously, someone at these intelligence agencies was upset that Temple might be jumping the gun and getting a bit too close to the truth. So he was roughed up a bit to keep him from pursuing the Mystery. This is no idle speculation. The bottom line is that there is no mundane scenario under which research into the beliefs of an ancient tribe of Africans can be of any interest to intelligence agencies concerned with national security. Unless of course the very idea of alien intervention in human affairs or public attention being focused on Sirius itself is in some way a security threat. As you will see, it only gets better ...]

"There were two employees of NASA who made attacks on me which I thought went far beyond mere critical disagreement. This was all the more distressing to me because I had been friends for some years with a delightful man, Captain Robert Freitag of the US Navy, who was Deputy Director of the Advanced Programs department of NASA's Office of Space Flight. Bob Freitag and I met through Arthur C. Clarke and when he came to London, Bob and I would often meet for dinner, as we were both very keen on good food and I would try to find something unusual, such as a Hungarian restaurant. On a visit to Washington I called in to see Bob Freitag and he said he had a very bright fellow who worked for him called Jesco von Puttkamer, whom he wanted me to meet. He called him in and I told both of them about The Sirius Mystery. This man was actually Baron Jesco von Puttkamer, and I believe he was one of the Germans who came to the United States with Werner von Braun. But I was shocked when later von Puttkamer maligned me in an astonishing manner on official NASA writing paper (in German) to my German publishers, a separate arm of which had apparently asked him to review my book for a journal. The letter said (11 July 1977) of me (my translation) that, 'he acts like a UFO-follower and leaps directly to the most farfetched hypothesis, which requires an assumption of an assumption of an assumption, namely that of extraterrestrial astronauts, because he believes it. This is rather religious than scientific ... Temple's work ... in the scientific sense is worthless; the evidences which he puts forward represent no proofs. The thesis which he put forward to my opinion presents not the slightest evidence, not to mention proof'.

Von Puttkamer went on to say that he was available to give a lecture in Frankfurt if they wanted him to. I wrote to Bob Freitag on September 3, 1977, and said: 'My German publishers, Umschau Verlag, have sent me a copy of a highly objectionable letter about me and my book The Sirius Mystery written to them by your friend Puttkamer on NASA stationery, signing it from the Advanced Programs Office. As this could be construed as an official expression of NASA sentiments, I must ask you to send both to me and my German publishers a letter disassociating NASA from the sentiments expressed by Puttkamer ... (he) says that I used his name in a television broadcast as supporting my hypothesis. This is entirely untrue. He says that I did this, "in a completely fabricated performance, which would obviously serve to give the book status". I am very disturbed at this outpouring of vituperation from your friend ... Puttkamer then goes on to attribute to me ideas which do not appear in my book (such as the story of Gilgamesh records the visit of spacemen, which is I believe an idea of von Daniken's) based on things discussed in parts of the book, namely the second half, which he admits he has not even read. Bob Freitag was not pleased by von Puttkamer's behavior, and Bob wrote to me on September 16,1977, saying of von Puttkamer: 'I was unaware of the contents of his letter and the problem it has caused you. 'First, I hasten to disassociate the Advanced Programs Office and NASA from the views expressed by Mr. von Puttkamer. These are certainly his private views ... I have instructed him to get in touch with you and the firm to provide quickly the disclaimer that he was speaking privately and not expressing a NASA viewpoint ... I remain interested in your plans for a new book and would be pleased to be kept up to date on your plans and progress. I would like the opportunity of discussing this in London ...'

Von Puttkamer followed with a letter dated October 7,1977, saying of his views: 'It does not represent anything like an "official NASA position". The use of the stationery may have given you that impression (using it was a thoughtlessness which I regret) ... I regret that this caused the appearance of an "official NASA sentiment" to you.' He also said that he had not meant to attack me personally. Despite being a NASA scientist he had put forward a very weird hypothesis, astronomically impossible, that Sirius B had once been visible to the naked eye. Such ignorance of astrophysics surprised me; his statement completely ignored the parallax which would prevent Sirius B, whatever kind of star it was earlier in its history, from being differentiated from Sirius A by the naked eye.

So much for Jesco von Puttkamer, who never entered the frey again. For the record, Baron von Puttkamer was brought over in Operation Paperclip, yet another interesting aspect of this story. He also managed to manipulate his way into becoming the science advisor on the first Star Trek film by undermining the close relationship that producer Gene Roddenberry had developed with his first choice to the film's science advisor - a young man named Richard C. Hoagland ..."

orthodoxymoron 10-22-2009 02:41 AM

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My computer can be working just fine...but when I start posting my speculations and insecurities...it seems that my computer begins behaving strangely. I can almost predict when this is going to occur. Is this Echelon at Work...or am I just more paranoid than usual? I don't have a problem with the internet being monitored...or with YouTube being reasonably censored...but telephone conversations being listened to and recorded without probable cause or the signature of a federal judge...or a computer being accessed directly...concerns me greatly. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just that my computer is old and slow...and not that it's overburdened with all manner of spyware, etc. My previous post combined with horrible computer performance brought this on. Once again...I just want the Dracs to stop giving the orders around here. I don't care what kind of deals we made with them...here or in Sirius. I get the picture of alphabet agency people from several countries, and Jesuits worldwide...running around following ridiculous orders issued by the Dracs...because the consequences of not doing so would be even worse. Once again, I hope I'm completely wrong. I want a sane and peaceful world...but I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Hope springs eternal.

no caste 10-22-2009 05:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 178512)
I agree. I see the general concept. I don't see the details...yet.

My pieces - (don't equal up yet)

Dagon = (Gerona Portal)/ Aleistair Crowley/Greys = Dragon = DOG STAR = Yahweh = reptilians + worm in apple ... ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by P4BL0 (Post 179838)
This is supposedly a picture of Marduk killing Tiamat.
The interesting thing is that the Sumerians regarded Marduk as a living entity,
a God in the form of a man. But other cultures saw him as a planet.


http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religio...duk-Tiamat.jpg

Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ?
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...838#post179838

The Masons etc have been oops, accidentally slaying YAHWEH ... Crusades they did so in Jesus' name (double oops)... don't get me going on the Catholic Church....

orthodoxymoron 10-23-2009 02:55 AM

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You are hot on the trail! I think this is a hugely important subject. I have a love/hate relationship with the Roman Catholic Church. I would love to have a completely open yet confidential conversation with a high-ranking church official regarding what is really going on in the Universe. I think they...more than just about anyone else...would know. I love the Catholic people...including most musicians and clergy. But I have come to think of the Roman Catholic Church as a Draconian Universal Church/State Theocracy which is very dark at it's core.

I'm presently seeing Draco > Aldebaran > Sirius B> Earth (Giza Intelligence, Vatican, Nazis, Masons, Illuminati, Occultists, City of London, United Nations, Washington D.C., Deep Underground Military Bases, Secret Space Program) = Military/Industrial/Financial/Draconian Theocracy. This is not exactly a happy go lucky, live and let live, group of humans and extraterrestrials...to say the least! I suspect that this is where all the drug money...tax money...bankster bail-out money...missing trillions from the defense budget, etc...really goes.

These are Sirius Issues.

orthodoxymoron 10-24-2009 03:35 PM

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Once again...I'm considering Pleiades/Aldebaran > Sirius A/Sirius B > Masons/Nazis as competing human factions all under the control of the Dracs. This is only a very preliminary hypothesis. We humans are a wonderful creation...but I think that we are easily deceived and corrupted. We have our vulnerabilities and weaknesses...to say the least. The Dracs seem to be very good at exploiting these vulnerabilities and weaknesses. Please consider the road from the Pleiades to Earth by way of Aldebaran and Sirius. I don't know Jack...or Jill...about this subject. Help me out here...please.

akopij 10-24-2009 09:40 PM

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i love this thread.I haven't read yet all the books and docs you mention, just heard a few shows. I heard already about the dogons from my dad, who traveled to Africa a big lot. I think you're right on. I always wanted to go to ethiopia to study the language and history of these people, I want to go there and keep you lot informed of what I find, about the ark... there is a masonic lodge here in Liège (Belgium) that is called Sirius, and that's all I got about it, that info was handed to me by a reliable truthseeker. Yes your phone is tapped and you HD is closely watched. No question to my mind about it, I know I've been filed up since years when I protested at the place usa keeps their nuke heads in Belgium. I m losing friends and don't have a clue of how to make a living. It doesn't matter because we do what we do for the right reason. I make new friends and find other ways to live than this bloody workforbills prison.


orthodoxymoron 10-28-2009 04:30 AM

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Thank-you akopij. I enjoyed the Messien video. The Sirius lodge was interesting! Here is another Messien video. Who knows...maybe all of the people who are on the lists will be at the top of the list for the top jobs...after the Solar System Exorcism...which is coming soon...I hope.

eleni 10-28-2009 04:52 AM

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orthodoxy- as to your computer acting weird as if you're getting close to truth or something- I can assure you that the AI system is VERY REAL!!!!!
I have experienced it as have others (whom I was with) and it's real.
Everything we type here is collected as data if they are interested.
And I will say something else- I don't like the *force* behind it- I sensed a GREAT MALEVOLENCE.

BTW- my ex is an excellent researcher ad researched the Dogon's and I will ask him- he seems to have the ancient stuff down pat (as far as research- not saying he knows what lies at the bottom).

orthodoxymoron 10-28-2009 06:07 AM

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Thank-you again eleni. I'm still trying to digest the links. You are very astute. I don't have any background in this subject...but the words Pleiadians, Aldebaran, Sirius, Annunaki, Draconians, and Reptilians...seem to be key words. A lot of this seems to be as much non-physical as it is physical. Non traditional theologians may be of help here. I once told a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School that I didn't believe in God...but that I did believe in extraterrestrials from the Pleiades. His face lit up...and his eyes sparkled...but he just smiled. I dropped the subject...but I should have pressed forward.

Sometimes it almost seems like computers have souls...or are possessed. Just a feeling. The fan on my computer starts racing when I brain storm on a thread. It behaves strangely in other ways which are hard to describe. I keep thinking this is connected with the underground bases rather than with the Homeland Security people (or equivalent). But what do I know? NSA Cray supercomputers perhaps. I currently think of these people (or aliens?) as my fan club! Hi guys! Say hello to Lucifer and Lord Draco for me! One person I know had a computer program which seemed to be alive. I can't recall the details.

The bottom line is that I think we live on a haunted planet...which is in dire need of an exorcism.

14 Chakras 10-28-2009 09:11 AM

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You shouldn't worry so much, bad for wrinkles :0)

You are creating your reality. If you want to experience a haunted planet, then you shall have your haunted 'tapped' computer experience... paranoia dude... sucks.

Or you can know that you are entering into a much better age what's called a Golden Age. That it truly is already manifest on inner levels and the only question left is how much of a role are you going to play in helping welcome it in and helping people of this world make a nice smooth transition.

That's the 'sirius' question of the day. Why do you think you've bothered to do all this research anyway? Other than pure entertainment value (sounds like your into scary flicks)...

Tune into truth beyond the scummies and you'll find it's all just fine! Do bad guys really have any power? Is that the true nature of creation? No! Bad guys are literally trying to swim against the entirety that creation is, they have no chance... and there day is up...

Connect to the exciting role you have to play to help humanity heal itself, protect it's planet and be raised up into the true reality that IS:

NAMASTE!

orthodoxymoron 10-28-2009 04:13 PM

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I just want the truth...both positive and negative. I try not to be stuck on positive or negative. I try to be neither presumptuously positive or needlessly negative.

iainl140285 10-28-2009 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras (Post 182200)
You shouldn't worry so much, bad for wrinkles :0)

You are creating your reality. If you want to experience a haunted planet, then you shall have your haunted 'tapped' computer experience... paranoia dude... sucks.

Or you can know that you are entering into a much better age what's called a Golden Age. That it truly is already manifest on inner levels and the only question left is how much of a role are you going to play in helping welcome it in and helping people of this world make a nice smooth transition.

That's the 'sirius' question of the day. Why do you think you've bothered to do all this research anyway? Other than pure entertainment value (sounds like your into scary flicks)...

Tune into truth beyond the scummies and you'll find it's all just fine! Do bad guys really have any power? Is that the true nature of creation? No! Bad guys are literally trying to swim against the entirety that creation is, they have no chance... and there day is up...

Connect to the exciting role you have to play to help humanity heal itself, protect it's planet and be raised up into the true reality that IS:

NAMASTE!

SWEEEET POST! :thumb_yello:
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akopij 10-28-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Orthodoxy I don't intend to have a top job. don't need that to be happy and responsible.
14 chakras your words are of wisdom, but I consider paranoia as a tool that has to be used carefully, as it is a part of my soul I can't reject it without dissolving harmony. I agree that bad guys don't have that much power, and that's why they're so pront to monitoring us. Do bad guys even really exist outside of our horizon? As you said, we create our reality, so events depend of how we look at them. As I look at beauty and harmony in both microcosmos and macrocosmos, golden age and armageddon melt and play chess on an infinite set with no winner nor loser.

0=0 gives me this vision I call
maybe you won't like it, I just feel like sharing


timetotelltheworld 10-28-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
HERES A LITTLE ANSWER TO SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE LEARNED

The Greatest Conspiracies of all time are ones that are done right in front of you, right in your face…..that no one would ever believe


The CIA has done unbelievable things to my life all but destroyed my life but when they put a woman in my life to toy with my emotions one who I truly loved and she was running the same con……. I decided to make a summary of what I have learned and put it up everywhere.........

and what I found out is that none of what were experiencing on this planet was GODs plan truth be known about what happened to him you wouldnt ever believe it.......His name was Yahweh the angels got rid of him and his wife Ashara and have been running this parallel and all the other parallels as they're blood sport ever since.....would you like to see where they are buried
this is they’re grave, not someone elses…….Micalangelos finger in the sky couldn’t be farther from the truth…… THEY WERE HERE

the book of Enoch describes where God lives as in a crystal palace surrounded by fire that not even the angels can get to now it’s a trophy left over from the war in the Heavan’s would you like to see it Apollo 10, the astronauts photographed it……I don’t think they had any idea of what they actually took pictures of but I know exactly what it is, it’s the same palace depicted in the book of Enoch

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_26.htm

This is for all those who have died trying to tell the truth….
And for all the non believers I’m not saying or telling you to believe any of it but I grew up being told to ask questions lots of questions question everything do not accept what your told listen to your heart and ask yourself what do you think

Here is evidence that only put in front of your eyes can you make the final assessment….

A sort of summary of a litany of lies and be careful because you might not like what you
See, after seeing someone “go alien” I had to research everything I leave it for you to decide…….



OPEN YOUR EYES

Zap ruder film, What really happened in Daley Plaza and why did the Warren slam dunked and closed the book on JFK……
Because he tried to tell the truth now the truth about what really happened as given to me by the CIA …..

This was confirmed by Frank Xavier Mullahey and John Hoffman both retired CIA…..

Kennedy wanted to make something public he had just done a speech to say he would not tolerate any secret societies…..


what he was going to make public is an ALIEN RACE AND THEY WERE NOT HAVING IT why because they're intention is to get rid of us.......
they made they're dramatic comeback in 1952 over the white house they were given they're own branch of our government one which used to be refered to as no such agency..........better known as the NSA......

second part of the story Jack Ruby did not kill oswald his grave is empty they funnled him out of the country and hoped that the assassination would die with oswald...KENNEDY WAS TRIANGULATED 3 SHOOTERS ITS TEXT BOOK GOVERNMENT POLICY ON HOW TO ASSASSINATE..........................

the illusion the lie is that they are not here ACTUALLY THEY ARE AND THEY ARE REPLACING US AND THEY'RE AGENDA IS TO GET RID OF US..................THE FRIGHTENING THING IS THAT ITS BIBLICAL AND ITS ALL A 2009 YEAR OLD CON.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lo...pelofJudas.pdf






Disclosure Project

57 species federal government has documented 57 different varieties of extra terrestrials what concerns them the most is the ones who can look very much like you and I and walk amonst us and you wouldn’t even know they were here what they didn’t tell us is that they can become us…….




Lunar Landing








911
BBC announces building 7 colapses early

Smoke and mirrors



Our Savior and other art pertaining to extra terrestrials
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html




History no one would except unless they saw it for them selves




Swine flu and population control
They are now running out of the swine flu vaccine and a national emergency is in place are you seeing the con
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24...ion=cnn_latest

should a national emergency take place FEMA COULD BE ENACTED AND HERE IS A LIST OF THE CHANGES IN LAWS FEMA NOW HAS IN PLACE TO SCREW US …

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004...amps3sep04.htm


LIONS AND TIGERS AND DEATH CAMPS OH MY
Watch the photos of Auschwitz
http://isurvived.org/Survivors_Folde...toAlbum-1.html
then watch this tape then wake up




FEMA DEATH CAMPS






THE GREATEST CONSPIRACIES OF ALL TIME ARE THE ONES DONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE THAT NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE

The greatest conspiracy of all time is going on by an actor an award winning duel identity OSCARS FOR THIS ONE AND IM SURE WE WILL NEVER HERE HIM SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ACADEMY…………BUT WE WILL SEE HIM SCREW US

USE YOUR OWN EYES LOOK AT HIS EARS LOOK AT THE BRIDGE OF HIS NOSE LOOK LOOK LOOK.............................................. ...............

My story
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=alien+agenda

or simply feel free to look at my play lists look at the con in full effect
http://www.youtube.com/user/notonyourlifewillit

orthodoxymoron 10-28-2009 06:55 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Thank you all. It's going to take a while to digest everything. One thing I should say...is that I can do positive thinking and the primrose path better than just about anyone. Unfortunately...I have a conscience...and if I sense danger...damn it...I'm going to say something...rather than just sweep it under the rug.

What if we have to connect with the best part of our inner selves...rather than connecting with an alien from Sirius? This seems like an us vs them situation. We are easily deluded and corrupted. I try to take in a little bit of everything...so as to not be taken in by any one thing. The churches were supposed to help...but did they? Are they helping? We were told that we needed God. But which god did they teach us about? It seems that all of this New Age stuff is just the same old aliens who went to church. Now they are just wearing different clothes...and telling different lies. I don't mean to be negative...but one can have a wonderful conversation with a very nice con-man...while they rob you blind. Radiating love may not work in every situation!

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron 11-07-2009 02:16 AM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
I'm still trying to think through three major hypothetical factions. Richard Hoagland speaks of the Nazis, Masons, and Magicians within NASA. I would guess that they represent the major players in the Solar System. There are supposedly three major factions in three major underground (under ice?) bases under one of the polar icecaps (can't remember which). A third of the 'angels' were kicked out of 'heaven'. Is this reference indicatitive of three Pleiadian factions? One Pleiadian/PTB faction? One Pleiadian/Luciferian faction? One Pleiadian faction who chose not to participate in the 'War in Heaven'? I'm thinking that the Pleiades, Aldebaran, and Andromeda are key to understanding these three hypothetical factions. Are the following groupings somewhat accurate?

1. Pleiades/Humans/Draconians/Sirius-A/Annunaki/Nibiru(Sirius-C?)/Mars/Lemuria/Zionism/Magicians/Vatican/Illuminati.
2. Aldebaran/Humans/Draconians/Radical-Luciferian/Sirius-B/Venus/Earth's-Moon/Teutonic-Zionism/Nazis/Giza-Intelligence/Bavarian-Illuminati.
3. Pleiades/Andromeda/Arcturus/Moderate-Luciferian/Masons/US-Constitution/Responsible-Freedom/Less Draconian Involvement (but still some).

The existence of each of these hypothetical factions may be completely justified from a historical perspective...and I'm sure they all have their sad-stories and horror-stories. But can't we do better than this in modernity? Why can't these three factions (if they exist as described) unite under Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System? They could continue to address all grievances via Constructive Competition in an Open Court. A Solar System Exorcism would undoubtedly be necessary to make this proposal a reality. The Universal Super Powers That Be would undoubtedly have to agree to allow this to occur...or it would be a non-starter.

Why does this have to be so hard?

orthodoxymoron 11-12-2009 10:03 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
This is just an invitation to look at these threads as a whole...and to see what dots you can connect. I think I'm getting warm...but I just don't have the intellectual and emotional strength to nail this thing down. I'm not treating this as a witch-hunt. No one should treat the search for truth as a witch-hunt. The more I probe...the more I sense that if I had been in the shoes of the major players...I would have probably done exactly what they did. Who knows...if reincarnation is a valid concept...I may have been involved in some really crazy things throughout history. When this thing really gets out in the open...all of us may have very red faces. I'm trying not to point fingers, to ridicule, to feel superior, or to be triumphalistic. This is OUR history we are delving into...and not the history of some demonized individuals or groups. Please try to think through all of this information...and add your information to it.

As I've mentioned before...I'm trying to think in terms of four major factions.

1. Pleiadian Theocratic (Sirius A/Annunaki/Zionist) - Original Pleiadian PTB aka God.
2. Pleiadian Luciferian (Aldebaran/Sirius B/Giza Intelligence/Teutonic Zionist) - Pleiadian Rebels (Lucifer and Fallen Angels?) against the Original Pleiadian PTB aka God.
3. Pleiadian/Aldebaran/Andromedan (Christlike Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom) - Peaceful Conscientious Objectors.
4. Reptilian (Draconian/Annunaki/Interdimensional/Grey) - In League with Factions 1 & 2.

I have no idea if this is accurate or not. If it is...I identify with faction 3...but I presently feel that the best of the other factions should be incorporated into faction 3. I continue to seek a Solar System Exorcism of the hard-core malevolent beings (human and otherwise). This would NOT include mercenaries, the naughty, the corrupted, the blackmailed, the mistaken, the coerced, the terrified, the deceived, etc...but only those who could not possibly learn to be responsibly free anytime soon...and who would be a huge threat to the peace and safety of the Solar System. I wouldn't want to be the judge in this matter...but I think this needs to happen soon. The separated individuals should not be harmed...just isolated until they can learn to play fair and nice.

I really wish to discuss these matters. I'm open to just about anything. I welcome both support and criticism. This is going to take a lot of time, effort, and pain...to properly sort out. Others will probably have to do this. I really don't think I can do it.
I have too many issues! :tongue2::wall::mad3::nono::zip::lol3::mfr_omg: Perhaps I'm the one who needs an exorcism! Perhaps I have more than a monkey on my back!

no caste 11-12-2009 11:31 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 187591)
As I've mentioned before...I'm trying to think in terms of four major factions.

1. Pleiadian Theocratic (Sirius A/Annunaki/Zionist) - Original Pleiadian PTB aka God.
2. Pleiadian Luciferian (Aldebaran/Sirius B/Giza Intelligence/Teutonic Zionist) - Pleiadian Rebels (Lucifer and Fallen Angels?) against the Original Pleiadian PTB aka God.
3. Pleiadian/Aldebaran/Andromedan (Christlike Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom) - Peaceful Conscientious Objectors.
4. Reptilian (Draconian/Annunaki/Interdimensional/Grey) - In League with Factions 1 & 2.
...
I have too many issues! :tongue2::wall::mad3::nono::zip::lol3::mfr_omg: Perhaps I'm the one who needs an exorcism! Perhaps I have more than a monkey on my back!

ortho - That feels about right to me. More right that the other list, It feels warmer to me too. T3J talks about 57 or 71 (I don't know, too lazy to check) species, SO we probably should keep it in perspective.

I also have a lot of issues! :tongue2::wall::mad3::nono::zip::lol3::mfr_omg: PS What's on the real monkey's back is probably EBOLA.

Unfortunately, I can't align with any of the 4, since I don't like Pleiadians

orthodoxymoron 11-13-2009 01:07 AM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
What if all of us are Pleiadians? What if all of us are primarily aligned with one of the three Pleiadian factions...whether we know it or not? I didn't think of EBOLA. That was good! I was thinking more of Interdimensional Reptilians...who hate Uppity Humans! I'm thinking that the 'Alien Presence' is really a Cabal of Pleiadian Human Extraterrestrials and Interdimensional Draconian Reptilian Extraterrestrials. Whether we're talking native or extraterrestrial...I'm thinking that we're mostly dealing with Humans and Reptilians. I'm also thinking that we're in huge trouble...more than we can possibly imagine. But then again...I have issues. Lots of issues. But perhaps it takes a crazy person to figure out a crazy situation!

no caste 11-13-2009 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 187652)
I have issues. Lots of issues.

OK :smoke:

It seems not quite right to me, the - what if all of us are Pleiadians. Then I'd have to kill myself. That's how bad it seems.

orthodoxymoron 11-13-2009 01:59 AM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Why don't you like Pleiadians? They're only human.

no caste 11-13-2009 02:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 187667)
Why don't you like Pleiadians? They're only human.

Just from what I've encountered online. Something sweet and sugar coated about it. If our sun is part of a greater system, that's nice. But the messages seem like false light. I just like the sun.

orthodoxymoron 11-13-2009 05:25 AM

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I'm not a big fan of the supposedly Pleiadian and Sirian messages. They are similar, aren't they? Perhaps unrelatedly...I'm not a big fan of the dimensional, holographic, and ascension talk either. Perhaps I just don't understand. I'm mostly interested in honest universal history, theological, and governance issues. I simplistically want this Solar System to be a safe and happy place...where we can reincarnate...until the sun burns out. Then we'll just have to get another sun. :original: My naivety is refreshing...isn't it SaLuSa? Che Sera Sera SaLuSa!

no caste 11-13-2009 08:17 AM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 187708)
I'm not a big fan of the supposedly Pleiadian and Sirian messages. They are similar, aren't they? Perhaps unrelatedly...I'm not a big fan of the dimensional, holographic, and ascension talk either. Perhaps I just don't understand. I'm mostly interested in honest universal history, theological, and governance issues. I simplistically want this Solar System to be a safe and happy place...where we can reincarnate...until the sun burns out. Then we'll just have to get another sun. :original: My naivety is refreshing...isn't it SaLuSa? Che Sera Sera SaLuSa!

I don't think I have heard (read) Sirian messages. What are they like? No, I don't like the dimensional, holographic, and ascension talk either. It seems made up, like Tavistock you're-special but not really. A lot of the illusory reality stuff is already available to learn about in Chinese and Indian philosophy.

I'm with you on honest universal history, but I'll settle for even a good non colonial version of Canadian history, without the bum-f**king priests and RCMP child kidnappers being cut slack. I'm OK to live, then go in the ground, or get cremated or whatever.

Actually, I think our current 'issues' may revolve around cloning, and individuals grabbing for everlasting life (that way). I don't think it's how the cards were dealt. It also makes it confusing for 2nd generation clone babies, just like there are test tube adults asking questions now - who's my... dad?... I mean... what... sperm... donor?... ?? There's a background fertility clinic story there.

I like your idea of just finding another sun :original: Then I can be happy for my progeny, god willing it continues.

SaLuSa, I have issues with and don't wish to YELL. I think SaLuSa is a bit of a web bot that spits out good ideas as people type them online, or on their computers if they're targeted that way. It just doesn't seem original. More like a prepared sermon. So, there's probably a public sermon department in the NSA. :thumb_yello:

orthodoxymoron 11-13-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Isn't SaLuSa supposedly Sirian? Who knows...SaLuSa may be a 20 year old freckle-faced NSA intern!

no caste...you seem to have a cut the cr@p point of view. I like that.

I'm leaning toward the idea that the Christlike Holy Spirit Within Humanity is as much real God as we are going to get...which may be quite enough...once we wake up...and once we stop being messed with by the Wannabe Gods. Perfected Humans living in a Perfected Solar System may be as much Heaven as we are going to get...which may be quite enough. Getting recycled into new bodies...in perpetuity...may be as much eternal life as we are going to get...which may be quite enough. A highly spiritual and ethical physicality may be as much ascension as we are going to get...which may be quite enough. Both the old and new religions strike me as being different versions of the same BS. Things may not turn out to be as bad as we feared they would be. Things may not turn out to be as good as we hoped they would be. I just want the facts...good and bad. I just want to try to face reality...good and bad.

orthodoxymoron 11-21-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
I'm going to try to focus on this group of threads for awhile. I'm not exactly sure why. Perhaps it's because I would like to attempt to build on a foundation...to see if there really is something solid here. I'm going to review each of the threads...and try to be critical as well as supportive. The threads seem to be interrelated. They were not started with any pre-existing agenda...but my desire is to work toward a Solar System which works for just about everyone. I don't envision the evacuation or destruction of the Solar System...although I'd like to see the really bad characters leave for awhile...or at least be isolated from the rest of us...until we get our acts together to a significant degree. The present arrangement doesn't seem to be working. The lies and violence are what really trouble me. I want the truth...positive and negative. And I want peace...but not at any price. I guess this thread is really about the governance of this Solar System...and the underlying political and religious aspects. Anyone care to join me?

Here is a video which some might have a problem with. It shows various gods from Stargate SG1...with Christian music. I love the show...and I love the music...but do they belong together? Is this offensive? Or...is this descriptive of the gods we are dealing with in this neck of the woods? Could this video be descriptive of 'awesome' Sirian gods...who may be attempting to be our gods? I'm leaning toward the theory that many gods are Human Beings...perfectly possessed by Draconian Interdimensional Reptilians. Check out the other videos at the bottom of this video. Tell me what you think. Any of you Sirians care to comment? What about the God of This World? Is the Creator God of the Universe active in our Solar System...or are we pretty much on our own...at this point? Is it basically us against the gods? What's really going on? I just want to know the truth.

:original:Namaste:original:

Oliver 11-21-2009 09:02 PM

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orthodoxymoron 11-21-2009 10:16 PM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
Cool dolphin video. Here's another Sirius video:

orthodoxymoron 11-23-2009 12:14 AM

Re: Sirius Issues
 
I don't think that I have the truth. In a sense...I don't think anyone has the truth. The truth is illusive...and the search for truth must be relentless and ongoing...in perpetuity. However...I do think that the threads contained within this thread are hot on the trail of truth. My hope is that people who have it together a lot more than I do...will continue the quest a lot further than I would be able to. It's sort of like the lions or tigers who trade-off chasing their prey...to wear it down. Well...we probably need to do that. The goal...for me at least...is a Perfected Human Race...living in a Perfected Solar System. Obviously...this will never be achieved...only approached. I just want US to get as close as possible to this ideal. I want ALL of US to make this journey...not just the 'special people'.

:original:Namaste:original:


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