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tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 01:56 PM

Steven Greer Interview Discussion
 
I am just opening up this thread so that people watching the new Steven Greer interview can comment on their views of it. There will no doubt be some polarization of opinions on this particular interview and I encourage that in this discussion.


I will go first. I understand that there are apposing philisophical views between Kerry and Dr. Greer. These are completely logical points of view and I respect both of them. No one of us (unless you are an ET reading this) can say with out a doubt one way or the other which one of these views is accurate. My personal opinion is that they are both right and that there is more than one truth.

The only other thing I have to say about this interview is that there is a lack of professionalism coming from Kerry's side as far as cutting Steven off in the middle of a thought and running him over with her take on things. I had to stop watching the video when I was about 3/4 the way through it because it morphed from a good discussion about perspectives on these subjects into a pissing contest where drama started overriding the message of both of them.

The excuse that "This is my interview style" is fine for Kerry and she is completely entitled to that stance on her paradigm of interviewing. However, she needs to be aware that the listeners to this interview (especially those new to camelot interviews) may get turned off by the lack of professionalism. Moreover, there may be potential interviewees that might shy away from a Camelot interview to avoid this type of scenario.

Not trying to be negative about Kerry in general. Kerry is obviously a great person and means well. Please do not come in with a post that is an attack saying that I am defaming everthing she has ever done like others have posted up in my other threads. Thank you.

Luminari 08-07-2009 02:24 PM

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I agree.

Was totally shocked how bad the interview was from Project Camelot's side unfortunately.

Why interview someone and then talk over the top of them everytime they try to answer their questions, and just to say something unrelated and vague?

Excellent communication from Steven Greer, under very difficult conditions.

Best of luck with everything people...

Choose wisely,

Universally Yours

L

Spiralmind 08-07-2009 02:31 PM

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I found the interview to be embarrassing to watch at times. It would have been nice to hear Dr. Greer's testimony, but due to constant interruptions and harping on one subject for most of the hour, it only resulted in missed opportunities imo.

This was an interview of Kerry Cassidy instead of an interview of Steven Greer.

Please don't misunderstand me, I believe in Project Camelot and what it is trying to accomplish and what it has already achieved.

I guess not every interview will be a smashing success.

Seashore 08-07-2009 03:05 PM

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I thought that it was a good interview.

I think that Steven Greer got his point across. And Camelot got their point across.

I love the story that Steven told at the end. I think the dream was a perfect metaphor.

viking 08-07-2009 03:08 PM

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I am dissapointed with the way Kerry tried to force her opinion on Greer...

I am sorry Kerry but yoiu know how I value what you have done in exposing lots of truths to the public. However you are wrong on this occasion. If the ET's wanted to be hostile in any way shape or form we would have been fried by now!!!

Greer is absolutely right...OUR TICKET TO THE STARS IS PEACE!!!! PERIOD


viking

tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 159717)
I thought that it was a good interview.

I think that Steven Greer got his point across. And Camelot got their point across.

I love the story that Steven told at the end. I think the dream was a perfect metaphor.


Yes, this is true for the 75% of it that I watched. However, the same thing could have been accomplished with people taking turns voicing their opinion instead of being impatient and having to own the conversation. There was a little of this from Greer as well. However, this was only a defensive response to mirror what Kerry was already doing.

I started having a hard time listening to it after about the first 5 times she cut him off in the middle of answering a question that she asked. Then when he said something like "I am being interviewed here and you are running me over while I am trying to get my point across" her response was "Well, you must not be framiliar with our style of interviewing."

From my personal experience in just dealing with people on a daily basis my opinion is that cutting people off in the middle of explaining answers to questions is not an interview style. It is a bad habbit. I have worked with people in the business environment that had this habbit and it is very, very difficult to tolerate. Then when ever you do the same thing back they get defensive and act victimized.

williamfmartin@gmail.com 08-07-2009 03:48 PM

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I thought DR greeR SPOKE very well...
I think Kerry is losing it.......
Tooo bad...........

Northern Boy 08-07-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Luminari (Post 159706)
I agree.

Was totally shocked how bad the interview was from Project Camelot's side unfortunately.

Why interview someone and then talk over the top of them everytime they try to answer their questions, and just to say something unrelated and vague?

Excellent communication from Steven Greer, under very difficult conditions.

Best of luck with everything people...

Choose wisely,

Universally Yours

L

I have watched or tried to watch most of these interviews brought out and I have yet to get thru one before getting frustrated with Kerry`s interview technics and just shutting it off. The talking over and the constant change of direction during the interviews I`ve seen leads me to believe they should hire someone to Interview Like Rick Keefe .

Maybe take notes and at the end of the interview go back and discuss those points you wish to make known . There is no need to interject and change the focus of what`s being discussed and then the topic is just left hanging unfinished . It can be really aggravating .
T3J
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"Well, you must not be framiliar with our style of interviewing."
That is not interviewing it is trying to impose your will on some one

cosmictexan 08-07-2009 03:57 PM

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After watching the video I have a new respect for Dr. Greer. I wasn't so sure about him after reading the blog a week ago but I understand where he is coming from now. He is a cautious man with a cautious stance unlike Camelot, which it should be. Project Camelot is trying to present many ideas from many angles and Dr. Greer is coming from one point of view, his point of view. I think if you really listen you will find that they have the same point of view. He is coming from a positive point of view and a hopeful view and knows that there may be a negative side but if the human race keeps up with the negative then we are going no where, literally no where in the galaxy, until we give up our war menatlity. I think Kerry was looking at this interview more in the way of a futuretalk and not a straight interview. I think Dr. Greer is use to being interviewed, which means he does most of the talking. I think he is right about the negative way the media is portraying the whole ET situation. Look at all the new movies coming out this fall, they are all about fighting aliens. One that I saw recently advertised was call District 9which looks really scary. In all I thought it was good and I wasn't embarassed by Kerry, she was doing what she does, make people discuss a topic instead of just spewing facts and figures. If anyone out there is good with body language I think it would say a lot.

JesterTerrestrial 08-07-2009 04:11 PM

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That was an interview? Where is the disclosure?

Maybe you should get me a plane ticket and put me in front of the camera!

Hey northen boy...fire up that web cam pack some snacks and get your revolution boots!!! Were going to OTT A WA! I heard that Jean Chretien was contacted in the east coast of canada when he was the leader of the pack and told to disclose the truth but he did nothing and I know that Paul Hellyer has spoken about the fact he suggested harper tell the truth... still nothing but lies and b.s.

Seriosuly...Bill and Kerry keep up the good work! But please do consider evolving your interview style to include some specific questions and to keep up with the changing levels of consciousness. I am sure it can not be easy to do what you do and the same goes for Steven Greer. If you got something to say about truth and disclosure...say it already!

I have posted this before but I will share again because i just like it so much.

I don't believe anything until I know everything all at once right now.
WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY HOW

Jaan 08-07-2009 04:31 PM

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I just finished watching it and imo, both sides were at fault.

I do however believe in what Kerry tried to do.

I feel Greer believes he is in the position of making decisions for us - just like all governments have done up to now! It seems that he believes that if we think some ET's might not have our interest at heart, that we would grab our guns and start shooting!

I thought that's why we are all here - to learn the real truth and equip ourselves mentally and spiritually for whatever awaits us.

Please, Steven Greer! Let us make our own decisions! It is not disclosure if you disclose selectively!

THEWATCHER 08-07-2009 04:39 PM

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I will watch this interview shortly and comment then. I have a vested interest here, I am one of Steven Greer's Witnesses, plus I brought to his attention the PLF situation. Kerry has her own lets say 'unique' interview method, perhaps whenever Camelot have the time for an interview with me I will see first hand the Camelot style.:original:
Barry

Flashback 08-07-2009 04:49 PM

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I'm a paying member of PC and from what I have seen from this interview - im deeply saddened.

Kerry and Bill - thank you for bringing all the info you have to me and others, but from my heart I think you were not very respectful to Dr Greer.

There maybe somethings we all don't know that was said off-camera but please dont show disrespect.

I thought Kerry in particular tried too many times to talk over Dr Greer and it wasnt pleasant to watch.

(after a couple of hours from watching it, I now feel a little harsh above. Apologies, its not for me to say until we hear from Kerry or Bill, if they want to comment)

Keep up the good work PC.

Jnana 08-07-2009 05:28 PM

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This started out as an interview but turned into a debate. I think if Kerry wants to present her view of things, she should do that when she is being interviewed. Otherwise, I would prefer to see insightful questions, even challenging questions, that get to the root of the point of view being presented. The danger of taking an advocacy position as interviewers, as others have pointed out, is that it may convince other potential interviewees that they will not get a fair hearing. Few are as confident as Dr. Greer about putting themselves in a position like that. There is a danger that the truth will be buried under a preconceived point of view and only interviewees who agree with that point of view will speak up. I think there was a lot of vehement agreement going on while refusing to listen long enough to get the gist of the nuanced arguments being presented on both sides. The debate needed a proper referee. Nonetheless, I think many will find it informative and it was a worthwhile exercise.

Northern Boy 08-07-2009 05:39 PM

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Jaan
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I feel Greer believes he is in the position of making decisions for us - just like all governments have done up to now! It seems that he believes that if we think some ET's might not have our interest at heart, that we would grab our guns and start shooting!
He seems to know far more than either Bill or Kerry does about these topics. The Catholic faith would be in uproar if they knew they were lied to . The biggest problem is that the lie has been perpetuated for to long and know they don`t know how to get our of it without coming out of it with egg on their faces. Let alone that they entered into agreements with these groups with out the public`s knowledge or consent .

Lets face it if they ,the visitors wanted the earth why wait 60 years to get it when they had superior knowledge weapons and who else knows what. They could have taken it and there would have been nothing we could have done about it.

You must remember nothing is going to be disclosed to us by the government , they don`t like it when the dirty laundry is aired in public if they were to disclose then the so called plan of an alien invasion would be out the window . They need to keep that cat in the bag for later We will learn about it when they (ET`s) decide and not before
Jaan
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Please, Steven Greer! Let us make our own decisions! It is not disclosure if you disclose selectively!
How would you go about disclosing the presence then? If you just throw it out there what happens everything will unravel . You want the government to do it .... and then trust what they are going to say after 60 years of lies, It has to be some one independent , Unconnected or the visitors them selves that do it . So now where do the guns come in from the sheeple who were constantly lied to thinking of an invading force , ie: Reagan and his star wars plan .

I`m surprised Greer sat there thru all this **** he doesn`t need this I commend him for putting up with it If It had of been me I would have walked away . Needless to say they can cross his name off any future interviews. I would expect him to decline

5thDensity 08-07-2009 05:42 PM

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If, for Dr Greer ther is no evidence for ET invasion, than its strange for me. Hes way is, probably, becouse there is no open war in the skyes ( like F-16`s chasing beem-ship:mfr_lol:). Open ET invasion is such obvious thing, where you know who the enemy is, who to fight. Better thing is, to clone all presidents and leaders, propagate "democracy" with controlled two party system, so population has illusion of voting choice and freedom. Thats perfect picture of perfect prison, when prisoner has no idea, he is a prisoner, so he never rebell. Thats what we have in this world now, in my opinion. Not a nice place to live in. What if we have been peacefull race, and all negative things on earth were ET influences, Dr Greer? You dont know what kind of ivasion "bad" ET`s prefer:mfr_lol:They are maybe melevelent but they may have no barbaric style! Instead storming the castle with hatchets, they like to leave trojan horse at the gates:mf_popeanim: Thanks.
I dont think camelot will get Dr Greer on again. It wasnt interview, it was "a grilling of a poor Steven by Kerry from camelot"

franciejones 08-07-2009 05:46 PM

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Very sad. It was embarrassing atleast and an attack at worst.

burgundia 08-07-2009 06:01 PM

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it was a, sometimes heated, discussion. They all have had similar and different experiences. greer handled it very well, calm, relaxed. There will always be differences as people perceive things differently, depending where they are in their search for truth. it was good to hear everything that was said. i didn't like kerry's hand in action ( it was like invading greer's private space). i like Greer's positive attitude and being "cautiously optimistic".
I am not going to make a mountain out of a molehole when judging( I don't like that word) the behaviour of both parties. Thank you for posting it.

tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 06:06 PM

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My perspective on their apposing paradigms is this...

Dr. Greer has evolved into an archetypal planetary figure head. He may not be involved in actual main stream politics as usual line in D.C. However, politics is just a synonym for perceptions. Greer is in a much higher state of global planetary observation than Kerry is. He holds some extreme responsibility towards what direction people decide to head in if and when they find out ET's are real.

Being aware of this, he is doing his best to do the responsible thing and get people off of the Independence Day / War of the Worlds mentality and shift them over to the Shaking hands welcoming helping races. He knows that weather or not there are negative ET's, is not what is important when it comes to shifting the consciousness of the planet.

He said in the interview that the entire universe is evolving towards new states of consciousness. I can only assume that he is gleaming this from the same place I am which would be the Mayan Myths about the Universal Evolution. This evolution includes the negative ET's. Even if they are negaitve right now, they may not be in another year. Just like even though our power structure is negative right now then it may not be in the near future.

Where as Kerry is still forming and evolving her paradigm about what all of this information means and may be trailing behind Steven as far as being aware of the perception and tendencies of the public. She is right that there are negative ET's and that there is the possibility that consciously inviting all ET's into your experience could potentially be dangerous to the individual doing the inviting. However, in my opinion she is allowing her fear for what could happen to people over ride her knowledge that we all attract what we are.

Steven was trying to say without spelling it out that if the planet is peacefull then we will attract what we are which is peaceful races. And that if we are attracting negative races right now it is because many of the people on the planet are just a negative as these bad ET's are. It seems as though Steven has seen the way he wishes for it to turn out in the end and has formulated a plan that he thinks is best towards achieving that goal.

I do not think what he is doing is reckless in the least. You will only attract things into your live that are at similar polarities that you are. If you have a battle mentality (like I sometimes do) then every once and while you will attract the thought forms of some negative ET's into your experience. If you have a peaceful mentality where you are aware of what is going on, but you do not wish to make it into a battle then you more than likely will not attract negative ET's.

There are exceptions to everything. I am not saying that any of these conclusions I am reaching are definitive truth on these matters. This is just my current perception of them. Ask me again in 2 months and I will probably be standing in a different place on these matters. Allowing your paradigm and consciousness to shift at the same rate that the planet and the universe are shifting at is the key to making it though all of this safely. If you learned something and integrated it into you paradigm a month ago and now are faced with apposing information that violates and over powers the old info, you should allow your paradigm to shift and the egos desire to be right should be temporarily set aside.

Jaan 08-07-2009 06:19 PM

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Hi Northern
Thanks for responding! I understand your point, but it creates a gray area of disclosure.

Anything he, or anyone claiming to disclose, may hide information THEY deem as improper at the time. Do you feel comfortable with the fact that somebody else decides what you should or shouldn't know?

I don't.

But I see "the interview" as symbolic of what is happening at the moment. Different opinions stir everyone's emotions, especially at critical times like this.

I just hope that this will blow over soon and we can all focus again on what really matters. So what if they rubbed each other the wrong way? As long as we all stay true to the real issues.

:winksmiley02:

TruthWillSetUFree 08-07-2009 07:04 PM

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I like the way Kerry gets in there and asks the difficult questions. She is pushing the envelop which will help bring in the new paradigm.

I don't feel she is coming from disrespect, but from her intention to get the Truth for herself and all of us. Bill was also on the same page as Kerry and no one brought this up.

Maybe her 'way' is unpopular only because we are so programmed to shake our heads yes, agreeing with someone instead of being straight and speaking ones' truth, this is what we came here for, especially now. She was only forcing Dr Greer to take responsibility for his words, why not, we all need to be responsible for what we are putting out in the world, especially those in the public eye making money off the 'information' they are selling.

We should have more of these rousing debates.
Maybe that's what people are objecting to it being a biased interview by Kerry, instead of calling it an 'interview' we should call it a discussion or a debate.

Bravo Kerry for having the balls to ask the hard questions and putting it all on the line instead of shrinking away from getting the Truth.

Have an extraordinary and Truthful day!

<Truth>

tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree (Post 159770)
I like the way Kerry gets in there and asks the difficult questions. She is pushing the envelop which will help bring in the new paradigm.

I don't feel she is coming from disrespect, but from her intention to get the Truth for herself and all of us. Bill was also on the same page as Kerry and no one brought this up.

Maybe her 'way' is unpopular only because we are so programmed to shake our heads yes, agreeing with someone instead of being straight and speaking ones' truth, this is what we came here for, especially now. She was only forcing Dr Greer to take responsibility for his words, why not, we all need to be responsible for what we are putting out in the world, especially those in the public eye making money off the 'information' they are selling.

We should have more of these rousing debates.
Maybe that's what people are objecting to it being a biased interview by Kerry, instead of calling it an 'interview' we should call it a discussion or a debate.

Bravo Kerry for having the balls to ask the hard questions and putting it all on the line instead of shrinking away from getting the Truth.

Have an extraordinary and Truthful day!

<Truth>


I do not disagree with this, this is probably exactly how Kerry feels about it also. However, public opinion is probably not going to swing in this type of direction because the public (non-esoteric people) want to see high production value and professionalism on the part of the interviewer is part of that. Perception is 99% of everything. If the goal is to wake more people up then you need to play towards the expectation of the brain washed public to some degree with a healthy balance towards pushing against those expectations.

I know better than to jump to the conclusion that Kerry is to wrapped up in being right to have good judgement. I know better because I have been watching the Camelot Interviews for a while now. On the other hand, if the Greer interview was the first ever Project Camelot video I had ever seen, the perception I form would probably be the opposite. I would probably never visit the Cameot home page and miss out on all of the other good info. This is the possible side effect of the increasing intensity of Kerry's communication habbits.

tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 07:35 PM

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To quote Richard Hoagland's response to Kerry's communication style

"Lets get back on the logic train here"

franciejones 08-07-2009 07:46 PM

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I do not agree. I don't think any difficult questions were asked. It sounded like an hour was spent with Kerry defending what she posted about Greer on PC and trying to get him to say that what he said was "wrong" or "irresponsible". It did not seem like an interview or a debate. It seemed like an arguement and it was painful to watch

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 08-07-2009 07:52 PM

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i think it was good, both sides are known to be quite forceful in their opinions. ive never really heard much from mr greer , i like him. kerry's faceial expression at some points in the interveiw/ argument (lol) toward the camera was a bit disrespectful. i agree also with the concept that say you can have good greys. its like saying all humans are bad. it cant be so. both had valid arguments.

very entertaining tho. i agree with greer that these scientist and insiders on projects are perhaps even more programmed than outsiders. 4 years oxygen and 12 months food sounds like , as hoagland would say'the lie is different at every level'. making blanket statements that all et's are good or any other statement is best left to ones own personal life.

Steve_A 08-07-2009 07:52 PM

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Hi tone3jaguar,

It appears that the main difference between the two is that one states that they have no reason to beleive that there are malevolent ETs and the other seems to beleive that they are not in a position to have total faith in the same belief.

Not taking anything away from the content of the discussion, merely looking at the interaction and contrasts between the two, I thought Kerry thought she had to put her opinion out there, in spite of the fact that it seemed primitive in relation to Greers. It was almost like that Kerry was one step behind in the thinking of the ET question.

Unfortunately she stood on the ball once or twice by saying the "Of course you would know all about....." and he did, arguably more than she did. We can't forget that, like him or not, he has been in this game for at least 18 years and Camelot has been around, according to Kerry for only three.

I personally would have taken the opportunity to discover exactly why Greer thinks like he does and try and get myself on one of those ET contact groups that he does to find out with a level head if he is speaking some sort of tangible truth.

He is correct by saying that you can't prove a negative and the onus was on Kerry to prove that there are malevolent ETs.

I hope both sides exchange the information they have and use the meeting in a positive way.

I thought, for the viewer, in spite of talk overs, the meeting was interesting, if not in ET information, at least an insight as to what makes each one of the three tick.

Best regards,

Steve






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Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 159703)
I am just opening up this thread so that people watching the new Steven Greer interview can comment on their views of it. There will no doubt be some polarization of opinions on this particular interview and I encourage that in this discussion.


tone3jaguar 08-07-2009 08:02 PM

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I bring this up because Kerry asked Steven Greer about the intel she got from Pete Peterson. Almost none of us have seen the Pete Peterson Interview yet. He probably has some good interesting things to say. However, the idea of oxygen running out is outside of the realm of possibility. The more C02 in the air, the faster plants grow. They can consume up to 3x the level of C02 in the normal atmosphere and it causes them to grow 3x as fast. The faster plants grow the more oxygen they produce. It may get hot, but oxygen production will increase as it does.

lawlessline 08-07-2009 08:48 PM

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Totally agree with the truth to come out of the interview with interviewee let personal beliefs get in the way of letting the info to come out natural and let the public to make up their mind. Is that not a form of control of the infomation?

Not to blow my own trumpet, but this is what I reoplied to on Galactic Contactee 04.09


All contact and intervention by outside forces or agendas are strictly forbidden on this planet at this time and for many thousand of years. Thie only exception is in the interest of the planetary eco system. This in no way means that there should be interaction with the human species until the DNA is cleared and the human race evolves through their own passage on their own grounds, or planet. I am very disappointed through the continueing contact of humans, after the inter galatic agreement was met many a moon ago.

This is not to say that the human, once evolved can jourey out to meet these other species, but there must not be any intervention of any kind in the evolution and evolving of the human mind. Therefore contact from the human being is limited by this and the questions should only be answered about the other species, not about the evolution of the human species.

I hope that sounds clear? If not contact me and I will try and explain it better.

I wish not too offend but this is such an important point, that if not aheared tothen evolution or ascention will never take place. Don't ruin it for everone and break you contact or make sure that your contact is not just an iffectious one.

With much due respect,
LL


But lets make up our own mind?


_______________

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 08-07-2009 08:51 PM

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its like whistleblowers are not subject to disinfo and mind control.. i take all camelots interviews witha pinch of salt. john lears interveiw for example highly entertaining and a bit of fun. you cant take anything you see as dead serious or gospel. you must discern for yourself. i do think kerry should let him have his say, after all he is the one being interveiwed.

your interveiwing to get an opinion not to battle it out, entertaining tho that is..

the more i think about it the more i like greer. i think they are both on the same page but coming at it from differetn angles

lawlessline 08-07-2009 08:57 PM

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Still watching and it gets bizarer by the minute. The problems that the intergalactic community all agree that agendas serve nothing when you live together. Good bad doesn't exist. Let go They don't have agendas.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 08-07-2009 09:08 PM

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kerry needs to have a :smoke: lol

Moxie 08-07-2009 09:17 PM

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"This planet is in quarantine"... That's what stuck with me. Very believable, that! Dr. Greer knows way much more than he shared
and, he was able to cause me to See his big picture, his perspective, made complete sense to me, in fact inarguably good sense, the only option really, to clean up our side of the street unless it's a permanent negative infection/sentence (ye-gads but that wouldn't surprise me either).

To me, it's an implication that there IS a governing body that determines who is fit for interstellar travel. Wow, justice exists?

Dr Greer agreed to an interview and not a debate. If the debate premise had been on the table, he probably would not have agreed to appear.

I thought his message was a positive one, but it seems our hosts can't fathom the reality that we all need a spanking.

Phtha 08-07-2009 09:31 PM

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I thought this interview was great and I think people need to cut Kerry some slack here, there is nothing wrong with being passionate about something!

Kerry was very worried about Stevens intentions, and she does have a good point, and that is that there is a real danger in saying all ET's are friendly when they may not be, as Bill brought up in that interview, that is what happened when the Spaniards invaded the Aztecs or Mayans.

However I think Kerry has misinterpreted Steven Greer's intentions a little and therefore jumped the gun on the issue, which is fine she is human like the rest of us. We have to remember Steven has been doing this for a long time and as a result he has had much more time to think things through then probably nearly all of us here, including Bill and Kerry. I found him to be very wise in his outlook and I had to agree with him on some of his key points, as they mirror what I have been thinking, those being:

Most so called ET's and abductions are human origin.
Most so called ET technology are human origin.
We need to worry about human bellicosity before we worry about negative ET's, because I believe if there are negative ET's they are being attracted here by our negative thought patterns.

I also believe that there is a quarantine set up around earth, as it has been talked about in ancient texts, as well as newer channelled ones such as the RA Mterials. This would explain the reason why we have not gone back to the moon or further out for one thing.

At the end of the day I feel that there is so many amazing things going on here, that it is futile to even bother worrying about the bad side, all thoughts are creative as they say, and the future I see is one filled with joy.

Thanks Camelot, Bill and Kerry, for another great interview!

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 08-07-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by franciejones (Post 159755)
Very sad. It was embarrassing atleast and an attack at worst.

i think that this is what the main stream veiwers of this interview will think:zip::zip:

THEWATCHER 08-07-2009 10:43 PM

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Still not had a chance to view the video but judging by comments here thus far i am concerned. Bill, Kerry and many here at Camelot/Avalon need a wake up call. Too many of their 'whistleblowers' interviews tend to compliment each other and stick to the same script, someone comes along with a different script its seen in a negative light. I think a few cages need rattling, I might just start the rattling myself.

Barry

Carmen 08-07-2009 10:51 PM

Re: Steven Greer Interview Discussion
 
I havent watched all of the interview but enough to comment that Steven Greer is genuine and is talking sense. I glean from this interview that this man has a great deal of knowledge gained over some considerable time. It makes absolute sense to me that we do not make it out of our biosphere until and unless we have expanded in consciousness to a peaceful, wise level. We have to qualify ourselves by ourselves and for ourselves. We are absolutely responsible for our own evolution on a personal level and as a species on a cosmic level.

Love and Light

Carmen

Acotco8 08-07-2009 11:31 PM

Re: Steven Greer Interview Discussion
 
Although I have gained a new respect for Steven Greer, it is not for his interviewing skills, but his stances and work in this field. From the get go, I felt like Mr. Greer had a chip on his shoulder and was very over bearing and defensive. Watch his facial expressions when Kerry was speaking. He simply just met his match in Ms. Cassidy, who in my opinion was only trying to co-lead the interview. Both of their view points are very well-informed in my opinion. It just seems like one of the things that Mr. Greer is standing for is tolerance and peace of each other here on Earth. But he just did not seem to practice his preaching in this interview. That said, I enjoyed it and I love Kerry Cassidy's forwardness and style. And I love Bill Ryan's gentle approach. It is a perfect team. If it were any different it would be too fake, in my opinion. Love to all.
Tiffany C.

Unified Serenity 08-07-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by viking (Post 159719)
I am dissapointed with the way Kerry tried to force her opinion on Greer...

I am sorry Kerry but yoiu know how I value what you have done in exposing lots of truths to the public. However you are wrong on this occasion. If the ET's wanted to be hostile in any way shape or form we would have been fried by now!!!

Greer is absolutely right...OUR TICKET TO THE STARS IS PEACE!!!! PERIOD


viking

I disagree regarding "we would have been fried by now". What if we are viewed as a food source via our energy fields and/or bodies? Now, I do not know for sure regarding ET's but I do know for a fact that there are entities and regular humans who feed off of others energy / prana. It's yummy and has a sexual energy to it compared to drawing from universal energy fields. You can shield yourselves from energy suckers, but it takes great awareness to know that is indeed what is happening and NOT feed them. They love anger, hate, terror, fear, lust, greed, or more directly lower vibrational energy. They abhor high vibrational energy that is pure love and oneness.

So, why would an ET destroy us as in obliterate (see Marvin the martian) when they can use us for their own selfish ends? I see the world we are gravitating towards as destruction, and was that done solely by humans with nefarious plans or did they have help? Imagine the feeding frenzy that happens in protest rallies, 9/11 type situations, war, theatres showing horror and violence to large groups. The energy fields are terrible and yet somehow tantilizing to the unaware. Oh, they love adrenaline rushes from horror type stuff.

I guess I look at this from our historic perspective with a super power verses a barely developed nation that we can exploit their labor and resources. We could just march into such a country, wipe them out and take it over, but we don't. It could be for honorable reasons, political reasons, power trips to have "slave" labor. How do we know the ET community doesn't have to play politics with other ET communities and to wipe out the humans on earth might not look so great on their part? Well, we don't, so given this perspective I cannot accept Dr. Greer's premises that if they were bad they would have wiped us out already.

14 Chakras 08-07-2009 11:49 PM

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Unified Serenity, I agree with a your thinking here.

My understanding is that humans are basically cattle for alien and dark species and the fallen God's and beast that empower them.

We are batteries, much like the movie the Matrix portrays. We receive pure light from the source, which is way to high of a vibration for these dark ones to make use of. So instead, they get us to misuse our own light, by partaking in emotions or activities that are low vibration. When we do, our light is released, and they feed.

Humanity is food for a lot of dark beings, and dark aliens. Do you destroy your own food supply?

Of course there are benevolent ET's, HOWEVER, they are well aware that humanity must pass the initiations it is presented with by taking back their own power and balancing power, wisdom and love within their own beings. They will not swoop down and offer some kind of saving solutions, they want us to take a quantum leap forward, not remain food for beings who are trapped in the illusions of darkness...

Unified Serenity 08-08-2009 12:34 AM

Re: Steven Greer Interview Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Phtha (Post 159810)
I also believe that there is a quarantine set up around earth, as it has been talked about in ancient texts, as well as newer channelled ones such as the RA Mterials. This would explain the reason why we have not gone back to the moon or further out for one thing.

I am open to the possibility of a quarantine or a prison set up to keep us in a net and we keep looping back into 3d form thus feeding them from our emotions created in this 3d experience.

It's also been shared that we agreed to experience this 3d world and are now trapped here by a lower evolved being who enjoys this game. It's also been said that we can leave this when we want to and are awakened to the truth.

It's just such a galactic soap opera that it leaves me scratching my head due the various sub plots that are played out in our 3d soaps to think of this being the scenario on a universal level. It is really getting pretty old to me. Maybe it's a combination of all the above, and it just depends on what part of the elephant you are touching as to what seems to be the truth.

I do like the "you can leave when you want to" aspect and I plan on doing so once I have a chance and am at peace regarding my soul ties.


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