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Anchor 08-04-2009 03:51 AM

Personal attacks (conducted on this forum)
 
Threads started for the sole purpose of personal attacks against members of this forum will be deleted.

The people to whom this message applies know the measure in which it applies to them.

One thread was removed today.

This thread is being left open to response, but please keep it civil.

A..

TRANCOSO 08-04-2009 04:39 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
The BS threads on Green, Deacon & Dan 'Rubbish' serve a purpose. A lot of Avalon members reply to these threads with genuine & pollite anger, & not without reason.
BS threads on fellow members of this forum are, in my opinion, absolutely 'not done'!
If we expect the world to become a better & more civilized planet, the least we could do is being an example to the way people should communicate with each other.
Love & Respect, ladies & gentlemen, Love & Respect.
Everybody has the same right to his/her opinion.
If you don't like what you read, ignore it.
Sticks & stones can break my bones, but words can never heard me.
BS'ers are filtered out by a natural process.
And remember, Project Avalon doesn't 'belong' to anybody, but to it's members & readers.
We are Avalon.
Let's keep it civilized & positive, please.

Karen 08-04-2009 04:48 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
United we stand, divided we fall.
Let us not fall for illuminati style tricks aimed to divide and conquer.

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 05:10 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 158553)
The BS threads on Green, Deacon & Dan 'Rubbish' serve a purpose. A lot of Avalon members reply to these threads with genuine & pollite anger, & not without reason.
BS threads on fellow members of this forum are, in my opinion, absolutely 'not done'!
If we expect the world to become a better & more civilized planet, the least we could do is being an example to the way people should communicate with each other.
Love & Respect, ladies & gentlemen, Love & Respect.
Everybody has the same right to his/her opinion.
If you don't like what you read, ignore it.
Sticks & stones can break my bones, but words can never heard me.
BS'ers are filtered out by a natural process.
And remember, Project Avalon doesn't 'belong' to anybody, but to it's members & readers.
We are Avalon.
Let's keep it civilized & positive, please.


Henry Deacon has no BS threads, Dan Burisch and George Green are not forum members. In other words, I agree.

Luminari 08-04-2009 01:35 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
I am glad that a certain thread has been deleted, I'm not too happy about the situation. It was a karmic response to the hate messages espoused by the recipient recently.

Attacks on George Green will not be tolerated, I hope that is crystal clear.

I won't be doing any more 'enforcing'... but there are forces in play.

T3J I hope you are feeling better, please refrain from attacking people you do not know personally lest you meet the same end.

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari (Post 158632)
I am glad that a certain thread has been deleted, I'm not too happy about the situation. It was a karmic response to the hate messages espoused by the recipient recently.

Attacks on George Green will not be tolerated, I hope that is crystal clear.

I won't be doing any more 'enforcing'... but there are forces in play.

T3J I hope you are feeling better, please refrain from attacking people you do not know personally lest you meet the same end.

Please enlighten me as to how calling B.S. on one subject that George Green has spoken of is an attack. An attack is when you viciously go after another individual. I am just opening up a debate about fear inducing prophecy from an individual that could lead to unnecessary paranoia and fear. Blindly accepting everything that an individual has to say because once upon a time he put out some good stuff is not using good intuitive discernment.

Luminari 08-04-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 158679)
Please enlighten me as to how calling B.S. on one subject that George Green has spoken of is an attack. An attack is when you viciously go after another individual. I am just opening up a debate about fear inducing prophecy from an individual that could lead to unnecessary paranoia and fear. Blindly accepting everything that an individual has to say because once upon a time he put out some good stuff is not using good intuitive discernment.

Your disrespectful attitude. I would have banned you for the titles of your Burisch and Green 'hit pieces'. Discussion is one thing.. what you're doing is another.

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

I won't be doing any more 'enforcing'... but there are forces in play.
What forces?

http://theunexplainedmysteries.com/p...ti_Pyramid.jpg

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari (Post 158680)
Your disrespectful attitude. I would have banned you for the titles of your Burisch and Green 'hit pieces'. Discussion is one thing.. what you're doing is another.


So I take it you don't have an answer to my question?

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 04:59 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Attacks on George Green will not be tolerated, I hope that is crystal clear.
Not be tolerated by whom?

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 05:10 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

It was a karmic response to the hate messages espoused by the recipient recently.
So now you are a conduit for Universal Karma? This is starting to sound more and more like a certain type of philosophy I have heard of in the past.

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
You mean these forces?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15829

or these forces?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=13585

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
It was also interesting how my computer spontainiously turned off for the first time since I bought it 1.5 years ago at about the exact moment that the Personal Attack was issued last night. It would not turn back on for about 10 min. I checked the heat sinc to make sure it was not overheating and it was not. When I turned it back on is when I found the new thread posted by you know who. I must have really hit some off the right truth buttons.

TheChosen 08-04-2009 06:14 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Moderators? Please keep the energy at levels we have gotten used to.. you know what I mean..

Karen 08-04-2009 06:22 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChosen (Post 158706)
Moderators? Please keep the energy at levels we have gotten used to.. you know what I mean..

We are short on moderators. This moderator is helping teenagers get ready for fair.

Can the members moderate themselves?

Can other members help with gentle reminders?

I have to go back to supervising the 3D situation in my back yard.

tone3jaguar 08-04-2009 06:28 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Its all good, maby this is part of the great revealing?

Samarkis 08-04-2009 06:30 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
In Peace & Respect....

I am asking all to pls add personal reflexives to their responses...it reduces tensions (i.e.-"in my opinion","I feel","it appears to me"....)it then becomes less of a frontal attack.....

Here in the US, we are used to saying anything and letting others prove or disprove what we say...It is my hopes, in the light of true discussion, that all can accept that mode as it opens new avenues of thought...if someone doesn't agree with your posts, either explain further or ignore...we are the "New Humanity" Let's set new precedents!!!!

Wishing you all success!


Samarkis as I AM Moderator.....

THEWATCHER 08-04-2009 06:48 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
WOWZER!! Can I safely throw my 2 cents worth in here? I see some pretty close to threat material in this thread, and thats not on. What the hell is it coming to when someone cannot place their opinion of any individual so called insider whistleblower without being shot at by obvious supporters of that insider. It not cricket!!. I too have grave misgivings about Dan Burisch, maybe one or two others, GONNA TAKE A POP AT ME? I'm up for it:original:

Barry

Samarkis 08-04-2009 07:35 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
In this particular thread, I am again asking all to use personal reflexives added to their comments so as to reduce the impression of frontal attacks...if you pls Watcher, that includes yourself.... In my opinion, that will open discussion instead of feeling like attacks....

Thank you all for co-operating!!!

TheChosen 08-04-2009 07:56 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
There is a difference between a dissagreement and a personal attack. The problem is not the disagreement, but the way it is presented.

This forum is the place where the most controversial subjects are discussed, thus without presenting them in the right format it is very easy to offend someone or be quite misunderstood.

All it takes is to apply some assertiveness when presenting one's views.. nothing more. It can be a pain and limiting sometimes, but I personally believe it is the most optimal way of sharing information at the current level of cosciousness on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertiveness

Steve_A 08-04-2009 08:01 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Hi Everybody,

I understand the need for some people to let off steam. I'm the same. However, what I say in the forum is only a small slice of what I say out loud to myself (good job I'm not being recorded!).

I think what the moderating team is trying to say is that we don't need to be brash to get our points over. I think I mentioned in another thread about George Green, that I wasn't on board with everything he said, nor did I understand why Henry Deacon was in Amsterdam. But I wasn't disrespectful in my comments, even though my thoughts were a little more direct.

In my opinion if people who call themselves 'insiders', 'experts', 'whistleblowers', or any other name that they wish to call themselves, making claims that, it could be argued, sometimes are hard to swallow, of course they are open to criticism by people who find it difficult to accept what they are saying. It's human nature.
I didn't make Deacon leap on to a stage in Barça and say that he went to Mars, I didn't make george Green Skype Amsterdam and say he had a message from the Pleidians. These comments should be discussed and opinions should be able to be made public, but we must keep the discussion in good taste, otherwise we will end up again, like we are, arguing the toss as to who insulted who and who upset who and the list can go on forever....

Keep it real, keep it objective, but keep it polite at least, even if you disagree and explaining why you disagree is always a good thing as that allows others to see your reasoning and could put a new light or other perspective to the idea.

Best regards,

Steve

Humble Janitor 08-04-2009 08:25 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 158737)
Hi Everybody,

I understand the need for some people to let off steam. I'm the same. However, what I say in the forum is only a small slice of what I say out loud to myself (good job I'm not being recorded!).

I think what the moderating team is trying to say is that we don't need to be brash to get our points over. I think I mentioned in another thread about George Green, that I wasn't on board with everything he said, nor did I understand why Henry Deacon was in Amsterdam. But I wasn't disrespectful in my comments, even though my thoughts were a little more direct.

In my opinion if people who call themselves 'insiders', 'experts', 'whistleblowers', or any other name that they wish to call themselves, making claims that, it could be argued, sometimes are hard to swallow, of course they are open to criticism by people who find it difficult to accept what they are saying. It's human nature.
I didn't make Deacon leap on to a stage in Barça and say that he went to Mars, I didn't make george Green Skype Amsterdam and say he had a message from the Pleidians. These comments should be discussed and opinions should be able to be made public, but we must keep the discussion in good taste, otherwise we will end up again, like we are, arguing the toss as to who insulted who and who upset who and the list can go on forever....

Keep it real, keep it objective, but keep it polite at least, even if you disagree and explaining why you disagree is always a good thing as that allows others to see your reasoning and could put a new light or other perspective to the idea.

Best regards,

Steve

To me, whistleblowers are people too. I'm not about to hold them on a pedestal and neither should anyone else. It doesn't mean that they should be attacked en masse like any other people. But, when people disagree, they should be able to express those disagreements in a civil manner.

tone3jaguar 08-05-2009 04:15 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
The cat all ways lands how?

orthodoxymoron 08-05-2009 05:29 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
To quote that great American...Rodney King...'Can't we all just get along?':tongue2::lightsabre:

Anchor 08-06-2009 12:02 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Ok - I just edited another post containing a personal attack and I am getting a bit bothered by all this.

I am quite prepared to face the **** storm that will happen when I start suspending people posting rights and/or closing and deleting threads.

Please think about what you are posting before you post it.

There is no need to attack anyone on this forum ever - even if you think they are leathery winged demons from hell spouting disinformation from a base on the moon - don't do it - there is no justification for disrepect or ad-hominem attacks on this forum.

We are all one and we all deserve eachother - no matter what - we are here to figure this stuff out, and the rules of this forum are that it will be done without attacking people who are members of the forum.

A..

Wormhole 08-06-2009 12:45 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Wow.

I thought I'd just talk about something I do that makes it easier to respond to "hard" posts that may seem emotionally charged.

First, I just read the post and let my first impression guide me, I do not react, I just feel and write nothing. Then I reread the post and imagine that I'm the one who wrote it and use my own internal voice as the narration. I put my self in their shoes so to speak. Through doing this I have realized that nine times out of ten, the other person just wants their opinion to be respected... not to get into a fight.

If we state our opinions (as we should) keep in mind how it will be read by another reader, keep in mind that the person who writes a post feels strongly about what they are saying. Try to be that person for a few minutes so that you can understand where they are coming from...

Then respond. After all, we are all ONE.

I have no doubt that we will get it together and continue on in a way that is complimentary and respectful to ALL opinions without demeaning anyone. It is very important that we have the freedom to do so, and it is also very important that we do not abuse our freedom and thus retain an open and peaceful forum.

Peace of mind,
Wormhole

Anchor 08-06-2009 12:49 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
@Wormhole: Thanks - that is indeed the spirit.

Unified Serenity 08-06-2009 01:19 AM

Re: Personal attacks
 
You know what's funny, is reading how we should couch our responses in phrases such as "in my opinion" or something like this. In college we were trained to speak in active voice and not say things that are obvious. If someone is sharing their thoughts then it is "their opinion" and it's like heads, we all have one.

Some have a more aggressive nature to their posts, and some have a more humorous tone. I have been told that I speak in authoritative tone by my partner and others, and I accept that. I don't share things which I have not spent some time researching. I also am very open minded to hear what others have to say, and never take the approach that I have all the answers.

The one thing I try to never do is call names or assume anything about another person who generously has given of themselves and chosen to embark on exposing themselves by posting as well. I imagine there are so many others who could share, but choose not to because of the negative attacks that can ensue. Flaming is obvious and I for one whether I agree with one's point of view do not appreciate negative energy aimed a myself or others who are sharing their views, and would ask that all such posts be edited or deleted as it does nothing to further growth of those reading. It is also a favorite disinfo tactic to turn posts negative and belittle others opinions and try to malign their possible affect on those reading the posts of the one maligned.

I would not wish the job of moderator on anyone. I have moderated many forums online and it is a thankless job. It is not the honor many think it is because of the decisions and attacks mods have to face... often in pm's. I salute all the moderators no matter their views for taking on the job (usually on a voluntary basis).

mudra 10-19-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
As a personal reflexion " It is not until you have been challenged with despise , misunderstanding and rejection that you come to know what staying grounded in your heart , forgiveness and compassion really means " .
I 've read a book once about a monk in tibet who was captured and tortured for month by the Chinese army . What really striked and impressed me in her attitude was the equanimity she managed to keep all along and not at any given moment having responded to hatred by hatred .
If people who have undergone such cruelty and hardship can behave like this there is a lot we can learn in our daily human relations where the challenges we get are so much milder.
It takes great mastery of self to avoid a stimulus response based reaction ..to keep one's temper in check and to act with clarity of heart.
I understand some people are more of a " warrior " type . This is fine but then also I believe it should contained within the bounderies of a code of honor and decency towards our fellow human beings.
Arguments should not to started with the intention to kill each others head off but always been directed as bringing Light.


Love Always
mudra

no caste 10-19-2009 02:19 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 179310)
Arguments should not to started with the intention to kill each others head off but always been directed as bringing Light.

Some people don't like light, and it's difficult to talk to them when it's shining so bright. It can be blinding as an interrogator's beam. Intimate talk is better in the dark.

mudra 10-19-2009 02:39 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste (Post 179312)
Some people don't like light, and it's difficult to talk to them when it's shining so bright. It can be blinding as an interrogator's beam. Intimate talk is better in the dark.

Yes you are quite right . I can understand that too . Maybe it's all about finding the right atonement to one another and to strive for balance.
Thanks :wub2:

Love Always
mudra

P4BL0 10-19-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
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BROOK 10-19-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
everyone should play nice
The world would be a better place
It would be like Magick


http://www.africa-nature-photography...bs-Picture.jpg

mudra 10-19-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 179322)


Looks like a lovely game there Brook. Can I have a go ?

My Love for You always
mudra

P4BL0 10-19-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
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mudra 10-19-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by P4BL0 (Post 179324)
Yes that is true.
We should all play nice and respect each other.
Even thou sometimes we completely miss the point.
Understanding one another some times it isn't an easy thing,
specially when people have different characters.
Tolerance is a good thing.
:wink2:

I think the more we keep playing the game of being nice and have respect for one another the better we will become at it.
Lets just keep practising despite our differences.

Love Always
mudr

Zeddo 10-19-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 179310)
...............................
If people who have undergone such cruelty and hardship can behave like this there is a lot we can learn in our daily human relations where the challenges we get are so much milder.
It takes great mastery of self to avoid a stimulus response based reaction ..to keep one's temper in check and to act with clarity of heart.
I understand some people are more of a " warrior " type . This is fine but then also I believe it should contained within the bounderies of a code of honor and decency towards our fellow human beings.
Arguments should not to started with the intention to kill each others head off but always been directed as bringing Light.


Love Always
mudra

I have to agree and this is what my post "Being at one" alludes to. I shan't say anymore.

Much LL&P

Z

morguana 10-19-2009 09:58 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
is all i want to say
bou x

Ross H 10-19-2009 10:06 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 179327)
I think the more we keep playing the game of being nice and have respect for one another the better we will become at it.
Lets just keep practising despite our differences.

Love Always
mudr

Flow like water...dont take anything personally, everyone has the right to say what they wish, their choice, how we respond is our choice...

"THE FOUR AGREEMENTS" IS A WORTHY READ!

respect and understanding go a long way towards ones journey.:original:

peace

Ross

Zeddo 10-19-2009 11:27 PM

Re: Personal attacks
 
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