I am calling B.S. on George Green
 

He has been waving the world war 3 flag for a while now. I call B.S.

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Nothing personal to Mr Green , but after listening to his lectures etc.. i feel somewhat in a negative mind-set and feel that he offers little in the way of positivity, hope seems to fade!! We don't all have mega $$ to manifest our wants and needs. Just my opinion though..:)

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i've never watched any "george green"
where do i find a link to his stuff

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I was referring to this call he made into the Amsterdam conference, he is all ways preaching doom and gloom stuff that makes you want to find a cave and hide in it. Then when it does not happen he says "well it is just delayed, it will happen" He said in this interview that his ET contacts told him about WW3 going down soon. Sounds like his information stream has been hacked by the bad guys if you ask me. I am referring to his intuitive information stream.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1907258

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I have never trusted this man. The first moment I saw him here in a camelot interview something inside felt VERY strange and uncomfortable. Its not just the "vibe" I get from the man, Its also what he says. My guess is that there is a bunch of "Jinn" playing tricks on him and keep channeling disinfo.

reference to the Jinn:
http://thejinn.net/

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My take on George Green is that there are two things going on:

1) He was the conduit for the Handbook for the New Paradigm (HNP) - a wonderful work and one that underpinned the formation of the Avalon part of this site - which by the way doesnt really talk much about a World War 3. I think when this was done and the early decisions that he took to do this were mostly STO and Higher Self inspired. (Discrimination still required, I don't for one minute mean to suggest that I think the HNP is 100% accurate and I beleive that it is not 100% accurate!)

2) Then we have the normal human George Green who is of course entitled to his opinion on all things that he may think will or wont happen, and subject to all the usual influences that are around in the world if you allow yourself to be affected that way.

I'd say there is a fair chance that others fall into this category as well. Perhaps even others in "front line" : researchers, channellers and spiritual teachers like him. Nobody ever said these people were perfect, yet they still all provide a valuable service at some point - and we are always called to discriminate in any case - no matter what we deem the quality of the material to be, there are tricks, traps and distortions of the ego in each case - after all, this is a high law, the law of confusion, and this is the way it has to be at our density of experience -we MUST decide and choose for ourselves and take personal responsibility for that and all subsequent actions.

The danger is, and something that the dark elite love, is that the one taints the other.

For my part, I agree with the OP, I too call BS on George Green's "brand" of doom and gloom, yet I remain exceedingly grateful for the opportunity to read the HNP and sift from that material, that which I personally beleive and that was needed for my path at this time.

Discrimination is the key.

With that said, I call BS on "calling BS". The technique is undoubtedly powerful, but ultimately not constructive. More needed to be said, and I hope that with my post here I have been part of that effort.

A..

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Considering all of the possibilities...including the most horrific ones...is probably a good thing. Treating the most horrific possibilities as being an unavoidable done-deal...in a fatalistic manner...is probably a bad thing.

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Sorry folks... Hels logical. Its not about doom and gloom, that's how you percieve it. I personally enjoy his info and continue to be grateful. If what he says is such bs then where is your happy go lucky prediction?

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Yeah, that is the same:roll1:

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I second that, but I also love the doom and gloom, gets me excited. HBFNP so awesome and don't care what other people think. George doesn't bother me because he is only listening to his sources. There are more sources than what he gets information from. He is also being told things that he is being told. I use what I resonate with and understand, also I don't get mad or over-defensive with my psyche when there are things I don't quite get yet. People only speak words. These words have a different meanings to most of us depending on the difference of the paradigms the observer can associate words with through personal history.

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George green is logical and so are his topics. Got any happy go lucky predictions? Look around... Not exactly happy times for most.

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Aren't you the one with scratches? What do you expect people to think about that? They look real and believable but you say it was some entity from a camelot thread discussion? .... Careful what you call bs

Anything is possible and probable

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Sounds like wisdom to me :)

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Google him :)

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Hi tone3jaguar,

I agree with you up to a certain point. George Green is very knowledgeable about the economy, how the bourses are run and the ins and outs of political games that are played, related to the economy and money. This is the George Green I listen to. He has an extensive background in this field.

The George Green which starts talking about aliens and receiving messages is out of his department. We can hear this in the tone of his voice when he starts to talk about these sort of topics. He seems uncomfortable and understandably so.

This is a big issue for me, when people start to go out of their 'speciality' and harp on about something that they don't really know or aren't secure.

Since when has George Green been invlolved with crop circles? He possibly could have asked David Wilcock for an update. ;)

What I'm trying to get at is that I'd prefer if these peole just stuck with what they know and don't try and fill out the stocking with fluff, after all what use will the fluff be?

Best regards,

Steve

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:thumb_yello:

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What surprises me about this website is the sheer negativity and egotism on the majority of threads, attacking all forms of information as it doesn't compute with a persons belief system or mental frequency.

George Greens books are outstanding (Becoming) is a mind blowing read for all people who need answers and mental preparedness, you wont be getting much guidance from these threads that's for sure based on what I have seen this month.

George Green and Bill Deagle provide a kick in the pants for people to get their ass into action...... Those of us who heed the messages and are willing to make a difference will do it for the betterment of the planet. This website was designed for like minded people to link up in these times of uncertainty which allows educated people to talk calmly about future actions without being ridiculed.

All forms of information are vitally important no matter where it comes from, its up to us to filter this information with our hearts and to do our own research ........ Its that simple, knowledge is power, without true knowledge we are the sheep. You will not find better information in 70+ interviews on any website on the globe.

Once you are able to remove the bias and ego thought patterns from entering your equation then you will have moved to a higher level, from here you will have instant power and wisdom ..... And yes you will be able to filter all negativity through your own heart.

We need to discern with our hearts, as this is where the truth resinates but by posting your bias/ego/personal theory's, one sided views and thoughts only causes fear and negativity with the people who are working things out on their own. This could cause any reader being misled by those left brain views only serves the purpose of confusion and degrades any reader back into the mind control realms of darkness that we all aspire to remove ourselves from.

Once you attack and voice loudly then you have failed the most basic of tests and will no doubt be made to re-do things another time, how many times learn these lessons ??

I have only made one post on Avalon and in all seriousness I would love to and add my thoughts on many different subjects as I have a lot of inside information to many issues that are being talked about but I have to watch and wonder how with all the wealth of information that this site provides everyone but so little is absorbed through utter sheep mentality.

All we can do is prepare ourselves for a monumental ride as things will no doubt be getting a little bumpy, expect it and mentally be ready for what is coming as this will allow you to act when others will be seeking assistance and its up to us to provide guidance for those we are responsible for as spare a thought as to those who do not have any clue as to what is just around the corner.

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I would like for someone to point out to me where I attacked anything having to do with George Green other than his comments about World War Three.

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I am not telling people what to believe here. If you want to buy into the idea positive ET's telling us ahead of time that we are all going to die from nuclear fall out, then I won't stop you. Good luck with that. Don't think for a second that there are not Illumiari, oh sorry I mean Illuminati types lurking in here.

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ww3 is going on -- in the higher spiritual dimensions

it's been going on, for nearly 25 years !!!

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Yeah, but that is an energy battle.

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Good comments. If you really have inside information to share, why withhold it? It may be the case that those who are working the hardest to figure things out post more than those who are starting to get a clue. This doesn't mean that what you have to say will go unheard. However, you can expect those who don't understand what you have to say and disagree to be the most vocal. This is normal. You just have to be a bit thick skinned about it. Only you can decide your purpose for being here on this forum, but I hope you will decide to share more of what you know.

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many times, i have tried to tell others,
about the "real" war --

about the densities/and, the dimensions
NOT a bunch of fluff - but, real stuff

and, unfortunately, rarely, are you even heard
let alone, even acknowledged
(the other night, i did start to spill beans)
in the process, many attacks were attempted
(and, about all i felt, was a bit of heat)
i hope you enjoyed - the energies sent back to you
(i filled them with love, which to you, it is a poision)
i finally choose to delete it
why - it is simple - i just do NOT feel/or, even think anyone here,
really honours/or respects anyone else --
and, that is why, i deleted it

i know, i was one of a few, who helped this place
get off to a good start, i gave up, nearly 6 months of my life
to do it - and, yet, i got NOT one thank you,
from "the hosts" of this site ???

Sure, i love the name avalon, and, camelot - after_all,
that is, what a lot of it, is about, however,
is the real heart here ???

i have to admit,
i find that not only odd, but, also strange...
the hosts, don't acknowledge their members.

and, also, that people here,
expect you to play on their threads
and, support them, but, they don't play on your threads,
nor support you - however, many utilise a lot of your time,
writing to you, privately,
since they do NOT want to acknowledge
their problems publically,
and, your good work, just goes,
NOT noticed !

it has taken me, over 33 years, of real work,
most of it, very detailed, very different, and,
very interesing,
i am highly skilled, with a skill_set, that few, very few,
even have...and, this type of knowledge is required,
if you want to move up/and, move through
the who's, what's, where's, why's, and, when's of it all

some of my terms, are terms, you might NOT be familiar with

i don't research other peoples stuff, i do my own stuff
and, listen to my 10D/34 oversoul group...
i am really, a well-well, that is very full,
and, i need to empty all i know, in order that i will be refilled...
this just, isn't the right place to do that

i am on the right tracks, since, i have merged with my
9th density/33rd dimensional higher self/essence/or monad
back in 2007 - unfortunately, i don't have the resources
that many of the others have, at their disposal,
so, i am having difficulty stopping my work,
which supports my 3D physical body,
and, getting the writing done ---
it's a challenge

so, i am getting off all of these posting boards
to focus, on finishing my reno/and, selling my house
so, i've got lots of money,
to set up the next phase of my life
and, to write my books

after what i feel, see, and, sense
about what really is going on here,
i have to admit, my decision,
to erase my posts/and, stop posting here
was a good and, a valid one...

i can be contacted at : workingwonders@aol.com

best wishes to all,

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I think we all are providing the composites to not only for understanding George Green, but ourselves and this forum.

George is doing what and how he best knows how, and we like anyone else on the planet will draw our own conclusions based on that same information. Similar to one reason why there are so many religions.

I will say this for the first time. Those so called strobing red, blue, yellow star (ships) he referenced in his PC interview, well he was right about those. I see them (usually two, always one) every night, and trust me they are not stars. You figure that out when you notice how it will sometime end up in a different part of the sky in minutes or hours. As of 2 weeks ago, I finally saw my first true day sighting of a UFO very high diagonally slightly above my home. I only noticed after watching a cloud above where might backyard is located, oddly enough moving slowing within inself as if it was trying to form some type of object (yeah, I struggled with that too). I just looked at it, and for some reason I then looked up to the right of the cloud higher into the sky and saw the UFO. At first I thought is was a bird, but reality pinched and I realized that it was standing still and round.

There's been some very peculiar things going back to January in the skies and isolated cases within my house, but most of it (because I question everything) I dismissed if I felt it was coincidence or could be explained away. I have not had any direct contacts, but when I finally had the physical sighting (this might have been a second sighting), I knew there is indeed some type of presence. However, there's nothing special about me or I guess my family for that matter in terms of abilities or experiences etc. I do suspect some commonalities in my the choice patterns in my life, but that's about it. My wife is a skeptic (daughter of a minister), but is very conscious of something odd going on, and because she knows I'm not the type to just make up stuff, she pays attention. However, she does struggle with some of the stuff I try to share with her regarding shadow government.

I mentioned in a the "New Cloud" thread that I would post something regarding all of this, but just not there yet. Besides, I didn't document much, and the only thing I know the specific date of occurence is the odd happening on the 4th of July and Sunday 8/2/09. I wanted to share this because in my opinion, it was related to something George said that was spot on. Now, hell, he could be disinfo and the lights are US property and part of the hoax. :-)
He also foresaw the US economy collapse occuring near the end of 2008.

Two cents worth.

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There is currently a huge campaign going on by the higher dimensional negative ET's to overtly and directly interfere with intuitive information of people all across the world. There are individuals who have never had any significant interfereance with their intuitive work that are being hacked right now. The strange thing is that this particular type of interfereance has taken on a new face. It is now so heavily veiled that the intuitives, myself and George Green not excluded, can not easily tell the difference of where the info is coming from.

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In response to below,

Why do you insist on receiving credit?

Write your books... I'm sure you will make lots of money.

All for and one for all...

Re: I am calling B.S. on George Green
 

In response to below,

Why do you insist on receiving credit?

Write your books... I'm sure you will make lots of money.

All for one and one for all...

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T3J... drawing on Observations of behavior shifts (towards the negative- short fused, defensive, etc.) of many people in various situations in many walks of life is there something specific you are aware of? Or are you surmising this as you say?

You have included yourself in your own description of being "Heavily Veiled" by negative ET's and that your intuition is being hacked into and causing significant interference. I am curious as to how you can recognize yourself as being interfered with and how this is being veiled and accomplished?

Of course there are many examples of behavior differences in this forum and from all over the world as of late (like those on stage and does synchronize with indifference) as in your comments. I could guess and attribute this to an increase of chlorine and flouride in the water combined with turning up the microwave communication pulses all over the world, but that is just a guess.

How can we find out if Negative ET's are interfering with intuition? And how can we find out how they are veiling this technique?

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I am shaman

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And to further answer you question, just look for trends. I work with a few other intuitives and we have all been experiencing an elevated campaign of information hacking by the dark side. The battle for the souls of men is full on.

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What does that mean?

Could that be a clue as to where the negative energy is being allowed in... someone else's close influence?

So are you part of a group that determines an explanation based on the groups observations?

I have met many so called gifted ones and they were always being attacked by someone or something... strange phenomena isn't it. Almost seems as if it is a type of matyrdom/sacrifce for the good of all. Perhaps a great example of the opposite polarity definition called 'Lightside Polarity' = "I am doing this for your benefit" www.trufax.org.

I always thought it peculiar that the answer they had was never available to anyone else, what do you think causes this?

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I'll agree with that statement and bear personal witness to it as well.

A..

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Shaman is someone who chose before they where incarnated to be a conduit for information and energy between this realm and the higher dimensions.

Here is the description from Ian Lungolds Mayan Calendar Codex (determined by your birth date)

"Jaguar ix IX"

Born with a deep love of Mother Earth. Jaguar or shaman, is directly tied to the source of all Earth magic. They possess great power of intellect and strength of character through integrity. Jaguar energy is feminine in nature and is the ruling spirit of Jungles, plains and mountains. The spirit of Jaguar inhabits the Mayan temples and is called on to assist in spiritual as well as in material ways. Jaguar is also the god/godess of gratefulness. Patience born of strength and skill can turn directly and communications from them usually contain some mystery.


To clarify the incident the other night was the first direct attack that I have experienced in almost a year. The last time was another instance of when I attracted someone from the negative ancient mystery schools into my experience.

This other thing that is going on is more like the spiritual equal to the main stream media. Apparently the negative higher dimensions have decided to go on a high intensity disinformation campaign. They do not need to attack you to do this. They just have to hack your information stream from the higher dimensions. This is what happened to me on the attempt I made at predicting crop circles, when George Green gets info about thermonuclear war, or even back when Dr. Deagle came out with the same prophecies about nuclear war. They have always done this a little bit. However, in the past individuals who communicated with the higher realms quite often could easily sort out when the information was coming from a negative source because it had the low vibration of the messenger. However, now for some reason they are some how buffering up the frequency of the disinfo stream and tricking many skilled shaman and intuitives the world over.

I only work with a couple of other people that do this type of work. However they each know a few more, and then those know a few more and etc. This forms a community of shaman and intuitives that make a huge grape vine. And believe me when I tell you, the grape vine is singing what I am communicating here.

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Thats what she needs and wants.

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Good cuz I believe this forum is not for self promotion. Its about sharing FREELY

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I'm calling B.S. on people who call B.S. on people who they think are full of it. :naughty:

Seriously...if you are a threat to the dark side...I believe that they go after you with a vengeance. I don't know if I am a threat to the dark side or not...but I feel like I'm fighting 24/7. I feel like I have a monkey on my back...but I might have a nine foot tall reptilian IN my back (in my lower chakras). I think everyone is desperate and scared...humans, reptilians, and greys. Heck...we've probably been killing and torturing each other for billions of years...

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eXchanger: You are obviously a very talented and spiritual person. Most talented and spiritual people are probably on the verge of burnout most of the time. I could be wrong. Those of us who are not on the same level...require repetition, repetition, repetition...and the truth may threaten us or make us angry...before it sets us free. Even Jesus spoke of casting pearls before swine (if the shoe fits...wear it).

Something really did change in the 80's...didn't it? The theologians and preachers I was watching closely looked like they had seen a horrific ghost...or like they just lost their last friend. They may have just found out about what a lot of us are finding out about now. They said some peculiar and interesting things...which make sense to me now. I think I heard some things psychicially back then...which also make sense now.

Good luck with your house and your books. I'll look forward to meeting you at a book signing.

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:thumb_yello: Well said....lets keep the vibrations of Avalon high so all that stop by and inquire can see the collective convergence.

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They will go after you with a vengeance if you become detached spiritually from material addictions like drugs or alcohol. If you are not spiritually detached, regardless of the level of enlightenment, your higher self will only allow you to get rope burn instead of being hung with it. I had rope burn for about a decade.

Sounds like perhaps you should try some meditation to turn off that channel changer in your brain.

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This is exactly what this gifted lady had become incensed about... she could not see any other arena of explanation except for the frequency that she was tuned into and collaborated on with all of her 'higher ups' across the globe.

That frequency is tapped into by our very own earthly juggernauts of soup nuts. Literal transmissions of skewed microbursts of negative thoughts to suicidal tendency's and even a rhythm/pulse to bring about a desired hypnotic belief into the frequency bands that will penetrate our own thought patterns.

Even the coiled bedsprings in our mattress will accentuate-resonate the effects of these transmissions into our dreams and create a trance.

Do some research on the topic of 'Synthetic Telepathy' and you will find a very good argument for the violation of normal human telepathic communication, it matters not what one labels or calls themselves. The human skull is a bio-crystalline bell tower tuner/transmitter that sends and receives frequency transmissions. Those transmissions are being tapped into through the current microwave communications systems that cover the entire planet.

Your belief system and self labels create an easier target for this man-made mind control transmission to hone in on. Similar to a hypnotist who can make a person believe they are a dog and a respectable person will suddenly walk on all fours and bark in the middle of a crowded street with all their peers watching them do so... and then not realize what they did afterwards (Watch all the youtube videos on street hypnosis and have your eyes opened!).

Thoughts can be transmitted back into your head as if you thought them yourself... this technology has been around for awhile now and is being turned up heavily as the masses become more drugged and lower immune systems. Though this man-made hypnosis effect works really well with cell phones stuck to your head, but the very 'tone' your fillings give off when bombarded with a signal this system can tune into you specifically and tether you from a database of your life's history and move your thinking and beliefs towards a programmed end.

When you pass on this groups collaborated belief to others as if it is so then you are in effect empowering the very energy to increase and effect others around you whom would not have otherwise been exposed to it.

A suggestion if you are up to it is to question the very ones who you are closest too as to where or why they are syncing in with a negative interference uptake from somewhere. Push back on the others influence and they will not like you opposing them and will try harder to convince you of their accuracy in a higher realm they have been called too or were chosen to be.

Synthetic Telepathy can be quite powerful over a long period of time administered 'slowly by slowly' and builds up a momentum that will synchronize all those within range.

But negative ET's make it harder to fight as they are outside of our realm to do anything about (makes one powerless)... look in your 'backyard' for a tower near you, and snap out of it. Now you are powerful!

GWEN was here!