Michael Jackson has Cardiac Arrest and Taken to Hospital
 

Hi Everybody,

Not that I'm a great fan, but Michael Jackson has suffered a cardiac arrest and was taken to hospital around thirty minutes ago.

When I get more I'll post again.

Best regards,

Steve

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UPDATE

It seems that Michael Jacksons' condition is deteriorating.

His father says he is 'not doing well'.

The survival rate for cardiac arrests is around 15%.

Jackson is 50 years old.

When I get more I will post again...

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UPDATE

It's very likely that Michael Jackson has died of a cardiac arrest.

The hospital is waiting for his mother to arrive before releasing the news officially.

More information I will post again.


UPDATE

Michael Jackson has died.

http://www.tmz.com

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MICHAEL JACKSON HAS DIED!

Karma's a b*tch.

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I have always felt compassion for Michael. I feel he was the product of the industry which caused him all kinds of neuroses. The public could not see through that & see how much emotional pain he was in.

I believed he had a kind, sensitive heart that was seriously manipulated. I hope that he will find true peace now.

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I'm very sorry for the loss... I always liked Michael...

Tango

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There is something fishy going on :smoke:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...ichael+jackson

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Doesn't matter now. He's dead.

Unfortunate and it goes to show that no matter how much people idolize other people, the folks they idolize are not immortal or indestructible.

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No offense Janitor, did you even read the link?
My point is that this could have been known well in advance.

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That was very interesting to say the least. As far as answering the question of was it really MJ..............I would have to ask, who really knew the real MJ?

At a time I enjoyed listening to Michael Jackson but he then got too "weird" for me. The day I heard he paid off his accuser is the day he lost my respect and I will not listen to him again.

Being a pop star does not excuse the person. He never admitted anything, so I guess we shouldn't of expected him to apologized. But what is wrong with the world that lets such things slip by with a pay off?

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I think we are forgetting something.

The man was hounded and hounded and hounded until he died the way he did, with probably very little friends in the world.

When you push someone to the brink, they do things that are questionable, things that they otherwise wouldn't do.

I don't understand either but with the kind of life he had, I can forgive him for things that happened.

He was never formally convicted of anything, which makes it hard to believe the stories that were in the media, etc.

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wtf?
you speak ill of the dead?
and dont even know the truth?

pretty sad. :thumbdown:


R.I.P. Michael. :wub2:
Thanks Steve.

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Yes, I will repeat that. I'm happy he died and I hope he suffered.

I used to be a fan of Michael. I used to go to a concert. I saw him like 5 meters distance. I defended him when the first reports of child molesting came in. I thought people were taking advantage of his fortune.
Until the day I saw him hand in hand with his last victim. I can see a lot in the eyes of a person. He was ... horny!
Since that moment, I have never listened to his music ever again and I only wished him what has happened today.

You can be the best performer of history, but you cross that line and it's all over.

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Yes I spoke bad of Michael

I suppose I will pay for that one ?

I can forgive people as I do everyday but I will not put them on a petastal just because they sang well.


I heard his own sister and brother speak ill of Michael and I havel never consider the media as gospel. The abuse was in his own family so I will believe based on that and when they spoke out, there was a large dispute going on between his siblings.



So be it.................I don't believe in death I apologize for my words to who I have offended I will shut up now

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I guess I'm right about this place.

All negativity, all the time!

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then i feel sorry for you soulmate7.

Humble,.. it is getting quite old eh?

not exactly the definition of "conscious".

let' em sleep. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:wub2:

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Hi Metaphor,

I suspect something, however I have a different take on it than Ian2day on the David Icke forum.

I could be forgiven in thinking that he commited suicide by overdose and when the paramedics found him, he was already in a lightly dead state (beleive it or not but there are states of 'dead').

This time the paramedics couldn't bring him back and he died on the way to the hospital.

Why would he commit suicide? Well I think he suffered from Peter Pan syndrome, wanting to always e a child. This would explain his behaviour with slumber parties and Never Land etc.

I also thought that he could have 'lost his bottle' when it comes to stage appearances. This is very common amongst artists, there's one ex - artist who is writing here that stopped performing because of his age (however didn't suffer from Peter Pan syndrome), so I can totally understand why he cancelled the London gigs this year, as normally you prepare the event before selling the tickets. I think he needed the money and lost his bottle to perform.

All of this together with the fact that he was 50 years of age he must have felt really tired and drained, what with all the negative press, so called friends leaving or sueing him etc. It would have left him feeling old, what Peter Pan syndromers don't want, lonely, isolated and realising everything was coming to an end.

Of course it could just have been a cardiac arrest.... a post mortem will tell.

Best regards,

Steve

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My belief is Michael was put through abusive mind control techniques like many of the super stars in today's age. Dark subject, but there is lots of information on it if you care to look.

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Yeah, we´ll have to wait. On Icke.com its a conspiracy-feast like no other, haha.
I think its a golden opportunity tomorrow for any western government to sneak through any unpopular legslation or something. Lets keep an eye out ;-)

I´m a permforming musician at the age of 36 so I guess I have that Peter pan thing coming then :lol3:

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I think we are all entitled to our opinion here.

If someone thinks that Karma's a bi*&^, why should we think that our belief is the only one that's right.

The truth is none of us where in Michael Jackson's room when he had little boys sleeping over and none of us where there to see that nothing happened of if something happened. All we can do is go on our own inner guidance and so those that feel he's guilty, let them, and those who don't let them. It's called respect for other's views.

And then we sit here and think that our "right" view is so "positive" and "right" when really we're just being self righteous anyway.

I'm sure his family is going through allot right now so I hope they have some privacy while they mourn their passing loved one.

For me, it doesn;t make one difference because they guy was just an image on TV. never knew the real person and I know it's all okay.

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Every single person in this world is an expression of God. Even Hitler and others who have made history because of their cruelty. Nobody Has the right to judge another human being because we don't know what their mission is in the planet, besides we are teachers for one another by being good or bad.
Every human being is on the path of spiritual evolution and there's not such a thing as 2 identical lives, we don't know the feelings, troubles, struggles and loniless of others so it's not wise to judge.
Hating somebody who never did anything to us is the most akward thing. I'll remember him for all the good moments he gave to millions of people around the world, not everybody can say they did the same, so even though he had a less than perfect life, he was a valuable talented human being and as I said at the beginning, he was an expression of God.

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He was a remarkable dancer.

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Thank you for sharing this balanced view of another human who actually suffered a great deal. Outward appearances are not the whole story, therefore compassion in this case is in order. May he find peace & love now.

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Thank you SoulMate..................I sit here watching the news and I know I speak for others when I say the things I said

Unless you have had a child or were a child molested by a grown person, its hard to say how one feels. My daughter was molested for three years when she was 6 through 9 years of age. She was a baby in my eyes and I didnt have a clue because I was a trusting person.

My husband and I totally freaked out when she finally told us. It has been over 20 years but the pain is fresh in all of our hearts. I knew the person and trusted the person with all my heart because he was a good person. So much for that. I listen to the child and she was telling the truth. They really suffer when this happens.

I think for any grown up to even just get in bed with someone elses child deserves the accusations that come with it. There is absolutely no reason and in my heart I feel he did it and if he suffered the last years of his life.............I feel it was just deserved. Leave your hands off the children, they suffer enough. Run to another country that allows such acts was how he handled

So Orion and Humble, you will not make me feel guilty because I am in shock..........real shock ............over how the world can just "forget this and sweep it under the bed" . I am sad, very sad over the way the people can just turn their heads against the real persons that suffered at his hands.


And I seen the look in his eyes too and it was lust..........it make my stomach turn

Any person that even so much as touches a child should be treated the same way.

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Let's embrace pedophiles. This crazy world is ready for this.

I don't regret seeing him doing the moonwalk. It was truly unique, although this concert was one of the worst I've seen in my life.. Play back, hiding his mouth with his hand, 50 times "I love you" (no play back), 80 euro.
The initial concert was cancelled due to the death of Diana. All 80,000 fans were there on that Sunday, just to hear the concert was cancelled at the last minute. I was working on the nightshift at that time. The concert was postponed to Wednesday, went to it straight from work, 12 hours at the same spot, not able to drink, not even able to scratch my knee. I came home deaf due to teenage girls screaming like hell behind me. But hey, I saw the "King of Pop".

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I understand where you are coming from in your anger and pain. I will simply say that until you have walked in someone else's shoes you really don't know what they have gone through. It's been said that MJ was a victim of mind programming. Did they make him a child molester? Did they destroy his spirit? Was he affected by unknown energies? We have talked about technology that can affect our thinking and actions (scaler waves for example) and was that used or was MJ just a twisted emotionally disturbed and very talented child and man?

Oh, and for the record, I was repeatedly molested and raped from a young age so don't think I am unaware of what you feel regarding your child, I lived it. It was boys, family "friends" (adults), and a date, but I have forgiven them all, and have moved on with my life. I think loving parents can possibly carry more of the pain and scars because of feeling they did not protect their child and have a hard time forgiving themselves. I hope your child has healed and gotten over the past in a positive way. I do pray that MJ will rest in peace and that those whom he may have hurt can forgive and live a positive life.

I do wonder what is being done politically while we watch this media frenzy that appears to be happening. All in all, chin up, live, love and hug your loved ones.

Much love to all here.

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I guess seeing how the world is reacting and reading things in here brought home my pain.

It only shows me that I still have an open wound that needs healing........that will happen until I do and I thought I had. It pains me everytime I hear a story regarding this.

I have cried all night but not for his death, when I first heard of it, all that I could think of, was another child is saved. I cry for the way the world has placed their priorities on all of this.

I don't believe that the whole world that is now crying over this, has forgiven or forgotten this bit of information......I feel it didnt matter to them. That to me is very sad.

A man or woman can rape a child, kill someone, beat a spouce and if you are one of the so called rich and famous and they will be "forgiven" per who they are. Bush Cheney Biden Obama clinton and the kennedy's .. I could go on, if you like, all have skeletons in their closets among many but the charges never seem to stick. Did they do it, hell yes, in my eyes they did and I am not alone in these thoughts.

Ask me if I will care or cry when they go..............NO



Thanks for asking about my daughter. She is a mother and I think she is a wonderful mother and she has an open line of communication with them both.
It will not happen in her family....

I don't think it would matter as I pain for all the children of the world that suffer each and every day. I am at lost how I can put an end to the way I feel.

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There is no judgement on the other side, R.I.P., M.J.

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I absolutely disagree with the way the media is handling this event. How many more hours will be CNN talking about MJ? Fox and the rest? Even though he was a talented person who I admired (because of his talent) I didn't pass the mistakes he made but somehow at this time in my life when I have learned a lot about love and compassion I'm able to see through all errors and mistakes that people make, behind all of that there's a soul who came to this world and did the best he could with the knowledge he had.

mntruthseeker and soulmate: I truly understand the pain and suffering, just consider that maybe going troguh so much pain every time you remember an event is not the answer. The answer is forgiveness for all involved, forgiveness and love will heal any wound, any error and then your soul will be free. No matter what happens, life goes on and at the end if I have understood correctly, we should be observers in this reality.
A big part of awakening is to understand that what we live in this dimension are just experiences, our souls are much much bigger than anything we experience here.
I hope I don't sound harsh because it's not my intention at all. Forgiveness and love is all we need to live free of pain.
God bless you all.

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Money buys everything in this sick world, even "love" for young boys.
It seems that a couple of good records and dance passes, give you permission to do whatever you like.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


mntruthseeker, I feel your pain. I understand the adoration for a sick mind hurts you more than anyone else. I'm glad to hear your daughter is doing fine today.

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Let's forgive Hitler, Bush, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot. Let's build a statue for Ted Bundy, Henri Kissinger and Marc Dutroux. While we're at it, let's commercialize pedophily. Let's make it a day of forgiveness for all the filth that has happened in the past. This world is ready for this.

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Lets be clear here, some people have expressed admiration for his musical talent, & not for whatever crimes that he may or may not have committed in his personal life. Have we all not committed some type of crime in our life.....indeed it is part of our life's journey to both be on the receiving end of evil and also to dish it out.......why then do we feel we have the right to judge others so harshly. I am not dismissing the suffering of others, but if we claim to be spiritually aware, then surely we must understand that we are all "sinners" ......so let us look in the mirror at our own reflection first.

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This says it better than I could.

The man wasn't perfect but for the love of all that is good, let him rest.

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Michael Jackson finally gone for good. Now if the news-media would get back to some REAL news?

I will apologize ahead to any "IDOL WORSHIPERS" among the group here,
but this is my HONEST opinion...

My opinion = GOOD RIDDANCE FREAK :naughty:


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To those who it may concern,

-----------------> *Stop making direct (or indirect) personal attacks against other forum members!

:lightsabre:

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soulmate, i'd say rthat was out of line.:nono:

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wow, people's true colors really do come out.....:thumbdown:

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wow,

some really, really, sad, little people here isnt there?

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grow up a tad would you.

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have a good one eh.

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Yes Dolphin...I agree. Michael was just wanting to be a kid because he never had a childhood. He loved kids as his buddies because he was trying to regain his lost time as a child. His experience was taking him as a five year old and brainwashing him into being a grown up. It's incredible that he survived 50. He never knew what it was like to be a kid. He tried to lived his life as a kid because he missed out on his. Do You Know Why Michael Jackson is dead? It's because of character assasins (Nacissistic Personalites). RIP MJ. AUM!:original:

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I must add that even if Michael did do the things he was suspected of, I could not hold it against him. My brother is a sex offender for different reasons. He's cleaned his life up and continues to do so. It was this experience that taught me not to judge people for their mistakes, especially if they worked hard to rebuild their lives and move on.

People CAN change. It's my view and I'm sticking to it.