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My husband of over 30 years just came in (Mr Practical and down to earth man), and told me, 'you still reading that Avalon .....? He went on to say "What I am worried about is what other wierd ......" your are going to get into now." - Mr Enlightenment

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Sounds like a very stimulating environment for an inquiring mind.

Checking calender here, But yes, it is 2008 and the dark ages were over some time ago....

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Oh, Tuza! I feel for you, honey! lol! You just tell him that you're all grown up now and that he's your hubby not your daddy! :mfr_lol:

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Sounds like you need to go and give him a huggy kissy, and after he's snoring get back on line. Peace and good luck!!!

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30 years, that is quite honorable indeed. Keep the peace. We grew up with the threat of
atomic war. Now we KNOW we face a threat from other outside and extraterrestrial
sources. Or, is it salvation? I think it is worth checking out at least. As the MAN of the
house is your butt in the noose if you don't. Protect your wife, help her understand why all
of this is happening today.

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I had to laugh when I read this thread. My hubby has been through quite a bit recently, really stretching his belief system (he is a Catholic in remission) who leans towards Buddism.
When we finally figured out that our daughter (his little princess) is a Crystal child and is psychic. She can read her daddy's mind in a hot second. She has been telling him of the things she sees, like ghosts, fairies, etc.
I laugh, because he knows that I am clairaudient, so is our son (Indigo).

So when I read this thread, it made me chuckle. Been down that road, and am still walking it daily.

Remember, "The proof is in the pudding." When something goes down, and you know you have read it on this form, you can refer back to that thread to validate yourself. He'll catch on.
(by the way, we just celebrated our 19th Anniv. on the 9th of Sept., together 21 years.
My love and light to you.
Nancy

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I aplogize that this opinion won't be very helpful in terms of "keeping the peace", most likely, but I will say this.

I have found that I really have to be with someone who is willing to expand vibrationally to be in a healthy space. That being said, if they are willing to allow me to be MYSELF, and explore the world the way I have to to keep growing, then I can work with them too, wherever they are. But if they start dictating to me the boundaries I'm "allowed" to live under, so that they don't feel threatened, well, that's always the beginning of the end for me in relationship.

I can hear you about this and it brings me back about 15 years. Needless to say, that relationship didn't last. I know most people have way more tolerance than me, though.:tears:

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That's too bad about what he said.

if you get a chance to speak civilly, I would say that Project Avalon doesn't control how you think, but it is a reminder that there is much more going on in the world than most people realize.

you can give credibility to this movement by reminding people that Economists have been predicting the collapse of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae for more than 5 years, long before this so called "subprime mortgage crisis" ... "snuck up on us."

there's a lot like this, just tell him to google something he's interested in and read about it. for instance; there is actually no oil shortage in the us, because the US has two of the largest oil deposits in the world available in the rockies and the Dakotas (I think about $4.3trillion to $43trillion estimated value). The oil crisis has been manufactured in order to raise oil prices, among other things.

good luck.

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Hi Tuza, Patti and Norvel are right! It is indeed a long time you have been together....and hopefully u will continue to be..

My advice ( for what its worth) is to just keep your convictions clear...continue to do whatever u can/need to for the preparation of 'something' which we are all anticipating!!

Your not alone hun!! there will be millions of us out there trying to juggle our own 'knowledge' with the surreal 'matrix' most people consider to be 'real'..and it is HARD at times...it is confusing, isolating and frustrating!! but you now have a place to share and identify, and you will get support!

trust your instinct and carry on relardless!! lol your partner is entitled to opinions..but you have done the research and he probably hasnt!
follow your heart and let the love flow regardless of 'blocks'

peace to you now and always!

fire

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It is easier for our spouses to reject such things. It is a lonely road to find truth and wisdom. When you are spiritually and physically preparing just make a place for him. You will need to be the leader when things get tough and you will have the answers to move him in the right direction. He did not prepare. On the same token, the fact that you are here posting shows that you are preparing and growing. We will all grow with you and you will show him your strength in such matters when the time is right. He will need you. His talents and expertise you will rely on and he will learn yours. May your journey be full of excitement.

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Sorry, but I cant seem to stop laughing at your post. I have been with my hubby for 38 yrs and we have been arguing non stop over all of this. He wants to break my lap top. Laughing even harder now. It's all the lap top that my son gave me you know.

Oh Dear, be careful. The cops have him convinced Im schizzo. I even got taken to hospital.

You know, the best part of all of this, is I feel so wonderful hearing and researching each and every source. I know that this can't be wrong as it feels so right. Too many with same story.

Anyhow, I love him when he comes in here very quietly and tells me what just showed up on TV. LOL

Tell your hubby to join or let it go. I know YOU will not, you have been kissed. LOL ss I just feel for you. :biggrin2:

Maybe the two of them can play cards or something. Can you imagine telling them that about sports?

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Hey Tuza,
I feel this thread. Change, growth, and transformation are always challenging for partners, spouses, mates. It seems there is an inherent threat for many people when we begin to explore any new pathway. That goes for friends and family as well as I've gleaned from some other post. Questiny said it well...it is a lonely road to find truth and wisdom...perhaps more so when it has been found.

Some people in my life are wary of my relentless research, this growing urgency within, which I have to modulate daily. I really only articulate what is coalescing intuitively, in small doses with those that I am closest to. It is a delicate balance that we have to find with our partners, friends, etc. So much is happening so rapidly and as Firehorse said wisely, we still have to engage with the "surreal matrix" that still predominates many people's reality. It's maddening in a sense...and yet, an enigma which we must coexist with and be compassionate around. It's part of our practice.

Peace and blessings to you (and your husband).

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This may seem like a stupid question, but why only husbands? Are there any women that think that their spouses/partners have bats in their belfry because they have become "enlightened?" Not all people walk to the beat of same drummer.:band:

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I'm in opposite situation. I'm 33 and my down-on-earth accountant girlfriend suggested me to visit the doctor.
But as Bob Dean said in his interview with PC: People can't handle the truth. And I learnt not to tell everything I believe about this issue.
Actually I focus on economic crack down, and I tell her to remember Argentinian break down. And it's working, as with all of my friends. It's impossible that everything bad fall down at same time, so you can give little doses of information, in ascending order of credibility. You begin with USA-Iran affair, then economic collapse and you finish with andromedans and 4th density. There'll be time for explanations, but later.

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He's not telling you to stop reading it for your sake, but rather his.

He's afraid of what you'll become as a result and will leave him behind.

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See will he show the same enthusiasm when you tell him to stop watching tv :lol3:

I got that stuff from my family as well, as if im weird. I do admit, i may have a slight chemical imbalance but for the love of god at least i dont spend my time being told what to think.

Free thinkers are automatically exiled from society, so its up to you to show your husband the right way.

This sort of scenario amuses me to no length.

"And the wicked shall be deemed good, and the inteligent shall be deemed crazy"

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ceara--can you say B.I.N.G.O. :mfr_lol:

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GOOD ONE...that was quite a good solution

once upon a time, in the history of the world
all the women, who had husbands/or lovers
they withheld sex...
this, in order to bring about peace
and, GET what they wanted

men at home, and, back in their beds

NOW, maybe sex back then,
was NOT as much fun

but, i do NOT think that could possibly be a truth !!!

:mfr_omg: is the past, repeating itself ??? :yikes:
:mfr_lol:

It is important
to Learn to "stick" to your own gun
and, discovering how to be who you are...
is a very difficult thing to do

if one master,
does NOT let another,
learn how to be a master,
than one of them, is NOT a real master !!!

brightest blessings
of energy, light and love

susan~white lotus star
The eXchanger

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My Mom asked me today if voices were talking to me. I told her only when I ask their opinion.

peace,
cosmic:roll1:

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You have the right to choose what you do with your eyes. Be tactful though.

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my mother asked me the other day,
if i had signed my living will, and, if so,
who i had put on it ...

help ... i think, i might NEED a go-between :mfr_lol:

brightest blessings

susan
the eXchanger

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Hi,

Listen it can be worse ...
My wife and I separated a couple of weeks ago (not decided to officially divorce yet).

She's on my neck every single day that she wants to borrow quite some money ... That would mean converting euros into dollars.

Of course there's no real knowing if the dollar collapses but devaluation may be real on a short term. I have a double responsibility for such a loan.
Still being her husband and as a director of an institute to lend responsibly the money. I told her to wait.
Needless to say that she is totally not into this stuff. Even if project blue beam would start or WW III she will not be convinced that it's a bad idea.
She's convinced that I am evil and that I am doing this only to annoy her ....

Well let me tell you one thing. Since we separated I have more time to be a spiritual being. She was forcing me into the rat-race, uniformity.

Ok, the reason I am telling this is that we all need to adapt to a Jesus kind of behavior (I don't mean religion but his wisdom):

"Father forgive them because they don't know what they are doing !"

Keep in mind that enlightenment will come for each individual in his/her own pace. And for some maybe even not at all.

I guess a lot of relationships will be tested the coming years ...

Please, don't get angry. Stay calm and keep your wisdom ...

Cheers

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Hi, Folks:

This is an interesting and valuable thread.

Kerry and I get a LOT of e-mails from people who have stumbled into conflict with friends and family over the information we present and discuss.

What often helps is to remember/ realize that apparent aggression may actually be a symptom of fear (conscious or unconscious). Your husband/ wife who appears to be uncharacteristically unkind and insensitive may simply be terrified.

The remedy - sometimes - is to understand that they are afraid and to make allowances. Fighting and arguing over the 'facts' usually won't resolve anything.

A hug might - as also might listening to their real concerns.

Very best to all - Bill

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Hi

Id also just like to add.

Many people who become privy to this information without first attaining some form of spiritual enlightenment will take it as an attack on their core belief systems and in most cases this will trigger an automatic negative response.

Before enlightening anyone to the wonderfull state of affairs it is imperative that they are :

A. Not afraid to die.
B. Comfortable with their spirituality.
c. Open to information that is deemed 'outside the box'

If you try to enlighten someone prematurely you will most likely get a negative response, and not only that but some people will actually resent you for it and consider you to be depressing.

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I am alone in my journey, but very happy. Family and significant others/friends want no part of this. I only attempted to bring up a few topics, and i learned, I dont try to speak to ANY of them about it. they can do their own searching i guess. but i know how you feel. i dont have a sounding board at home or anyone here in my city to speak with about anything intelligent whatsoever. they are all lost in the media, and what society "considers normal". I used to be like that too, and only found peace when i accepted my beautiful insanity with open arms. its great to be inside my mind now, no conflicts at all. The conflicts in my mind, were only there when i tried to fight natural instinct, and become a robot like most of society. And i can communicate with the ordinary people that want nothing to do with any knowledge quite well now that i dont speak to them about this. i cant convert everyone into being hungry to at least read, explore.

I guess the point is, they have to do it on their own. but my friends and family are quite happy to let me be on my own, and explore at my own risks. they are completely shocked i dont do any form of drugs, yet have all these wonderful happy times/days. i have just changed inside.

anyways, please dont let what he said get to you. he might be happy when they blow the earth to smithereens, and you save his butt! with all your wonderful preparation and reading you have done!

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Lets look at it from his standpoint, he is maybe worried about you? or he is just full of his own glout? in the polite way.

Ask him what makes you think this and try and make him understand that yes we have alot of loonies but that is mostly fear mongering. Tell him you are still yourself just open to ideas that possibly can happen.

Tell him how you feel and ask him to tell you how he feels when hearing it, sometimes the words itself "New World Order" "Eugenics" "WW3" "First Contact" can really seem to wash us away without even getting the point across (thats why we are here in the first place to explain this puzzle together!)

Be aware of what hits and sticks to you sometimes it can lead to alot of problems but if your true at heart and really believe in yourself it will always come across genuine.

Hope everything works out for ya!

*jeeze i use the word hope alot :P

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laugh at your husband for me.

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ok where to start,, my girlfriend/commonlaw wife of 28 years had a sweat/peyote
vision almost 40 years ago that told her we were controlled by unseen/alien
forces and she has felt/believed that ever since. Problem is she thinks there is
nothing we can do about it all.And she reads zip and does nothing about it. She leaves the TV on 24/7 and very seldom will listen to any news/info i come in with.
. I tell her she is not invited to my cave when the time comes
and when the time comes I'll be gone. The one thing I'm really starting to get is
with so many people on the Big Blue Marble, we are all on many different paths &
some of us cross when were not really on the same path at all ..?
I feel for you all who are with partners not really looking at the reality of the Matrix
and what appears to be soon coming our way. ( a hurricane of change )-
I love that video I found thru this forum of Peggy Kane ( the 12 part interview)
towards the end she says some of us just don't think things are right here and
thru hell and high water are gonna find out the truth ! ( but Oh GOD that girl is a good cook ! )

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Hello All,

This thread is pretty interesting...

I'm an engineer/physist who got woken up pretty quickly in the last year or so. Here is my time history...

2006 I was dealing with a work project and fiancee who was ill. I had Repetive strain injury in my arms/hands and could only drive ~15 mins... I was grinding to a halt.
2007 Fiancee left for Greece
Got signed off work for 9 months eventually in which I did
> Tantra awakening course (school of awakening), crystals, healing, reiki, yoga, Tia Chi, lost 20kg, biodance, you name it I had a ball then I slowly returned to work in a large automotive company in Essex :) and slowly tried to continue my expansion... mediation kundalini balancing etc but... they want you to work! Work is bad and locks you in with stress etc

I find it so difficult to deal with the mainly male engineers as they are all like this ladies husband. I would have been the same 2 years ago to someone like me wearing crystals and doing Tia Chi in the office :) but I've gone throught the I don't give a Sh*t stage :)

I have been on an accelerated journey. My Mum is like me and reads this stuff too as I've let her read my Nexus' and have loads of DVD's on this stuff too.

the first half of this year we struggled with my Dad's illness and I did so much research for lung and brain cancers but unfortunately it was a lost battle but I did reiki and massage etc with my Dad which had I not gone throught the above awakening I would have been destroyed emotionally... I miss my Dad alot but know he is there in another dimension. If he was still here he would also be like this ladies husband :) so maybe it was his time...

I just know we are all on a journey and I now know so much about nutrition, healing, immune system function, energy, how the brain chemistry works (pineal gland thread is a must ;) and other things I will share when I can :) everytheing is falling into place...

I want to wake everyone up as I'm recently woken... but I realise I have my kundalini cleared to some extent with the tantric awakening which means I'm not locked in my Root Chakra like most in fear/money/etc.

ps most of my friends think I'm a depressing loon but I have a smile on my face when I say the 'end is nigher' :mfr_lol: and "hold this crystal, it is for..."

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I asked him tonight at dinner the question about whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job. He said he believed it was the terrorists like the media said, not an inside job. Then I said well who do you think killed JFK and he stated that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK and that was that......Mmmm, enough said I give up.

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:mfr_lol:


This reminds me exactly how my mum responded when i mentioned 9/11 being an inside job.

I'm a very persistent little bugger, so i got my clip board and printed out a fully detailed report with diagrams and pictures on the pentagon and outlined every single bit of evidence that did not coincide with the official story.

I was actually quite proud of my work because i was young at the time and i felt that i was so special for finding holes in the governments plans :lol3:

So do that, get him interested. Dont confront him with specualtion, confront him with indisputible facts. And in this line of research there are many!

Have fun, my heart is with ya :lol3:

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I really feel for you.

However, dont you think that if A B and C are already achieved then its a strong likelihood that they are already awakened?

To start the awakening process with anyone, you have to sow seeds, then be patient.

If your inner guidence tells you NOT to do it, then dont. Otherwise feel free, just sprinkle those seeds :)

A..

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One has to overcome another's fears before they can persuade.

My wife is also concerned. She has two fears.

One is that I will become too engrossed in research to fulfill my mundane duties.
Two is that I will change so much that I will not be the same man she married.

We have spoken about this. She has always admired my spiritual side as well as my ability to 'think outside the box'. That helps alot.

I reassured her that her fears were unfounded and she has accepted the arrangement.

As to telling others about your own non-mainstream beliefs. A similar understanding must be invoked. One must understand the reason people choose to believe in the official 9/11 story etc.

Most people believe the official story because they cannot conceive of a world in which the alternative could be true. They need to have faith in our leaders and do not want to examine a possible reality where the PTB could perpetrate such dastardly deeds.

In order to persuade these people, you must first lead them to understand that the PTB do not really have their best interests at heart. Once people know that the PTB are not the kind, wise leaders that we hope, they will come to understand truths that are newly self-evident.

For example. My wife listens to me when I tell her about things like 9/11, the NWO etc. She will listen, nod politely and seem to agree - but I know that she isn't sure. I have taken to asking her questions which will make her think about the motives of the PTB.

Yesterday I mentioned flouride in the water. I asked her why the government would put poison in the water because it is good for our teeth. I pointed out that flouride was toxic to the brain and used as an insecticide. I also asked her why, if they were concerned about our health, wouldn't they put vitamin C, magnesium or any other more beneficial nutrient in the water.

This made her think. Slowly she is coming around.

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THAT nailed the coffin shut.

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I remember when i first embarked upon my spiritual journey it was all i could think about. Morning noon and night id sit at my computer and absorb the absolute mine of information that i felt so privlidged to have access to.
I was about 11 years old at the time.

By the time i was 15 i started to broden my search for truth into the outside world, i started researching all about the worlds governments and how they have enslaved the people down through the centuries through means of heirachial systems. Thats when it hit me, it hit me that the world i was living in was much more terrible then i had ever imagined. It took me quite some time to adjust.


And that was after getting a pretty good grasp on my spirituality and my imortality. I could only imagine the ramifications this kind of knowledge would have on someone who is ignorant of their true spiritual essence.

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For some movies that may help awaken some people gently :) this is a movie about a Google feature called google trends... Lying media :yikes:

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...b=0&aq=-1&oq=#

A good link for 9/11
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.htm

Recently I bought 90+ conspiracy (truth) DVD's from an ebay seller... before I realised most were available on google movies. I've done nothing but watch them avidily :) What I do is lend them to people who I think will find them amazing. I am amazed at how people are SO slow to add 2 and 2. We have our work cut out I tell you :)

9/11 confronting the evidence
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ce&hl=en&emb=0

Loose change Final Cut are great movies... More a movie
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...ut&hl=en&emb=1


This site has virtually every movie imaginable in specific categories:
http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/

I wish the day had more hous in it :) so I could watch these all!

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I'm afraid I'm in OP's position, told by my science-based partner of many years he thinks I talk absolute nonsense - even when I show proof.
He actually stated he had lost all respect for me as I have no credibility left :tears:
He's working in alternate energy and I sent him links to a lot of useful sites, but I guess as he didn't think of it first I have annoyed him.
He's been warned off by the great poobah research PTB but won't listen to them.
I want him to be very careful, to no avail.
Our house has been buzzed by black planes.
He doesn't even believe chemtrails exist, or what HAARP is really used for - even when I bought him a book on what HAARP is (he flicked through it and threw it on the table - "Pah"), and he is heavily into EMF!
It has now got to the point where we hardly speak.
I feel so alone. My parents think I'm terribly eccentric.
My son doesn't want to know as he has a young child.
Perhaps I should go and watch a few episodes of 'Coronation Street' to numb my mind.:yikes:
or back to my gardening... :original:

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My personal view is that Scientists have a peculiar syndrome of the ego something like..."If a non Scientist believes something that I'm not aware of, it doesn't exist or can't be true."

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I am only 20 years old... I have only one friend I can talk to about this stuff without getting "You're nuts." or the simple arrogant look of a skeptical knower.

What I mean by "skeptical knower" Is...The people who would find it very interesting if all this 'was' true, but they 'KNOW' it is not, and are going to live their lives as if it is not true, until the government hand feeds them the right information to say "Hey, the world is not run by who you think it is...When there's smoke there's fire, and the fire has gotten so big everyone is going to get burned."

There's an age old saying...If it already works fine, don't try and change/fix it.

Over the next few days I will be taking a greater part in The Ground Crew, and doing what I can to aid. I have many things to say, but will do my best to keep posts pertaining to the topics in the thread they are posted on.

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I'm lucky, I guess. My partner of three years thinks Project Avalon and ATS ( I'm there a lot too ) is a bunch of paranoid weirdos, but..he respects intelligent arguments.

It works out well for us, really. I'm inclinced to be rather emotional and sometimes don't think things through, logically. He, on the other hand, is very logical and can look at things more coldly then I can. He's a natural sceptic which fits well with my personality.

A few months back there was a post on ATS which really effected me. I felt the OP was telling the truth of his experience, and it frightened me. This was the only time that my partner ever got angry about ATS - he was angry that the woman he loved was frightened.

He is open to to the themes that are discussed here and on ATS - but he is turned off by a lot of the drivel. I try hard to only present things to him which are very well thought out and presented.

I've actually got him to concede that 911 could not possibly have happened the way " they " say it did, and that's a big step.