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I have been thinking about various issues and what needs to be done. This thread is to share solutions and comments about them. I will list 3 things I have in mind for the United States. Please reply with your additional items, or comments...

For members in other countries, please start a list on this thread, for your country...

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
3. Replace income tax with a flat sales tax.

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How about we take out the IRS all together. It was originally intended to be a temporary establishment. We need to as well need to get rid of the NSA. Jim Marss talks about this, and how the NSA is allowing for a under cover dictatorship in america. =)

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How about this for an updated list so far...

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
3. Replace income tax with a flat sales tax and abolish the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
4. Abolish NSA (National Security Agency).
5. Reform healthcare.
6. Establish housing and food for the needy.

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I find it hard enough to maintain the vision of "what I want" let alone worry about the ways in which the universe will choreograph the dance that will get us there.

Of course by this logic, you could be just one of those dancers making this all happen in accordance with that vision :)

I think radical changes like the ones in your list will come about as a consequence of the way in which the world has the light of truth shining on it.

In the words of that Johnny Cash song, "What's done in the dark will be brought to the light"

A..

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I agree, Anchor.

Seashore, I would place "End all US wars of aggression and cut the Pentagon's budget drastically" as Number One. And I would not call for a flat tax as that is regressive and would severely harm the already suffering poor and struggling "middle" class of the US while allowing the wealthy to get off easier.

However I do agree with Numbers 1,2,4,5 and 6.

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1. Stop looking to the current political system to be a "savior" (this goes for both the folks on the left AND the right..no exceptions).

2. Stop worrying about taxes and other economic junk and worry about humanity in general. Instead of tea parties where you wear teabags like a douche, try tea parties with your neighbors who could use friends.

3. Stop giving power to authority figures, including TPTB by posting their fear agendas and buying into them.

Ultimately, Avalon and Camelot are full of conflicting ideologies and there has to be a balance between the folks that hate taxes and the folks that don't give a **** about taxes.

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Illumination, I got the idea from Lorien's post on the "Is the Real Problem Excessive Government Spending?" thread under the Economy and Currency sub-forum:

"I have always been a firm believer in getting rid of the income tax completely, and changing over to a flat sales tax in every state. For example, every state across the board would have a sales tax attached to every item or service sold.

Some items like food and clothing would have a very low tax with say 1% going to the state and 1% going to the federal gov.

General goods and services would have a higher tax with say 4% going to the state and another 3% going to the fed.

Luxury items like cars and homes over a certain price, and other items would have a higher tax on them.

This leaves a portion of taxes to the state for them to do with what they want, and a portion for the gov to do what they want. It also doesn't punish people for working hard and making a lot of money since they're not getting taxed on their wages. It does however 'punish' them for things that are excessive and not needed.

This would also make it so that there would be no earmarking of federal funds that you and I pay to the government for projects in some other state that we care less about."
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What do you think?

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On my list:

Full disclosure of all ET contacts, recovered craft, and associated acquired technology and science. Some of the technology has military implications and so continued control will be necessary, but it is time to replace fossil fuels.

A real inquiry into what happened on 9/11/2001 instead of the whitewash we got.

Full transparency in government leading to the end of corruption (I can dream can't I?)

Nuclear disarmament.


That's just the short term list, the long term list includes things like:

A complete change in the way we select leaders. Nobody "runs" for office. Only people who are highly qualified but don't really want the job will be considered.

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Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act; end all US wars of aggression; drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
2. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
3. Have a national debate about taxes. Consider a flat tax and abolishing the IRS.
4. Abolish the NSA.
5. Reform healthcare.
6. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
7. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
8. Real 9-11 inquiry.
9. Nuclear disarmament.
10. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
11. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.

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That's a good list so far. I don't mind looking into getting rid of the Fed and the IRS.

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Thank you for the link (I'm new and still discovering all there is on this site). That idea is interesting, moving in the right direction. I really don't want to get into the politics too deeply but as far as US government spending...I recently saw a chart where the Pentagon eats up almost half of our tax dollars. And then there is the fact that the US spends more military dollars than the rest of the world combined. So, IMO there are way too many public funds being used for the Military Industrial Complex and funds that simply disappear into the secret black budget which is both undemocratic and unfairly handed out to corporations without transparency.

I don't believe taxes are "punishment" because without them how could a society expect to have basic communal necessities like schools, fire departments, etc.?

Frankly, I'm tired of the squabbling about political minutiea because what we really need is a massive paradigm change which will result in a whole new way of organizing people and pooling resources in order to become a more fair and healthy community.

I'm not sure I can even envision what our new society will look like after this transformation. Hoping for a positive outcome!

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I've always felt this way, also...

:thumb_yello:

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Excellent list so far. To this, I suggest to add the following point:

TAX THE PROPERTIES AND "INCOME" OF ALL RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION

If we want LESS individual taxation (squeak-up if you want to keep paying more), then ALL those various religious holdings, Airlines, properties, lands, buildings, offices, "businesses," off-shore accounts, political "war-chests," and undeclared income of the religious groups = MUST pay a fair share.

We are talking many BILLIONS in TAX revenue from all such religious groups. This MUST include ALL churches, temples, synagogs, meeting houses, mosques, tents, church-owned hospitals, EVERYTHING in all the absolute control of EVERY religious group which, by their contempt have been exempt.

None can cry "discrimination," when ALL are included.

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Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act; end all US wars of aggression; drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
2. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
3. Have a national debate about taxes. Consider a flat tax and abolishing the IRS.
4. Abolish the NSA.
5. Reform healthcare.
6. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
7. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
8. Real 9-11 inquiry.
9. Nuclear disarmament.
10. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
11. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
12. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.

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You've got my vote. :thumb_yello:

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Love.

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Seashore, sounds pretty good except for the TAX issue. Please don't fall for a fair tax compromise, we need to return to NO TAX.

Ron Paul Interview: Income Tax, Fed Reserve, Debt

Live Leak Video Part 1 (8:40) and 2 (4:49): http://waronyou.com/topics/ron-paul-...-reserve-debt/

NO TAX

More Money in People's Pockets

"UNfair to the elderly and people on fixed income." Ron Paul


Why the "Fair Tax" is Unfair :wall:
by Darrell L. Castle
Constitution Party Vice-Chairman
Here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13501


Also I would definitely include on the list. HR 1866, Industrial Hemp Farming Act
Here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...highlight=hemp

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No taxing is another great addition to the list. Yet, completely eliminating money altogether would be an even greater step....

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Fab thread

i would add

BRING BACK ....

love thy neighbour ...as your self

and do unto others
as you would have others do
onto you ....

that be nice !!!!!

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peaceandlove,

I listened to the two Ron Paul interviews. I was confused because it seemed that the interviews ended with the idea on the table to abolish the income tax, not replace it with a "fair tax," which is a sales tax, but no discussion of how the government would raise revenue.

I clicked on your second link, but it's too much for me to read at this point...

Briefly, with no income tax, no sales tax, where will revenue come from? Please summarize in your own words...

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Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act; end all US wars of aggression; drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
2. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
3. Have a national debate about taxes. Consider a flat tax and abolishing the IRS.
4. Abolish the NSA.
5. Reform healthcare.
6. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
7. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
8. Real 9-11 inquiry.
9. Nuclear disarmament.
10. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
11. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
12. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
13. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.

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I thought it would be helpful to revise the list so that number one does not list three separate items. (I had been trying to prioritize three things as number one all at the same time, but I think instead, it confuses things...)

Also, I thought it would be helpful to re-organize tax ideas, and add some wording, for clarity.

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.

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Removal of all Black Operations and roll back of the all law enforcement agencies including FBI and CIA

return to common Law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce

smaller government and elimination of lobby groups

right of recall of your state , provincial or district reps they have to be more accountable to the people not just when we have elections

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Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
    
    

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Transform the Media to promote personal responsibility and advancement of Truth of Knowledge.

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Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
    

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This is to make a correction for 5.a. from "flat tax" to "flat sales tax." That's what I meant to say originally.

Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat sales tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
    

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I got this idea from reading Lorien's post on the "Is the Real Problem Excessive Government Spending?" thread under Economy and Currency.

For the purpose of discussion on this thread, here is a copy and paste of the post:

Currently all monies that we pay to the IRS in the form of income taxes goes directly to the Federal Reserve to pay the INTEREST on the money that the gov borrows from them. That is why we as a nation constantly have an increasing deficit, because we are never paying down the PRINCIPAL on that loan from the Fed, only the interest. Which is why we always need more money and they have to constantly raise taxes. It is also the cause of inflation because the more we borrow, the less the dollar is worth, and the higher the price of goods go, the higher wages go, and so on. It's quite a vicious cycle.

That, however, is not the only problem. Obviously, if we didn't have the fed to borrow from then the money would have to come from somewhere. Which is where a restructuring of taxes and a change in the way Washington and the individual states raise money for certain project.

I have always been a firm believer in getting rid of the income tax completely, and changing over to a flat sales tax in every state. For example, every state across the board would have a sales tax attached to every item or service sold.

Some items like food and clothing would have a very low tax with say 1% going to the state and 1% going to the federal gov.

General goods and services would have a higher tax with say 4% going to the state and another 3% going to the fed.

Luxury items like cars and homes over a certain price, and other items would have a higher tax on them.

This leaves a portion of taxes to the state for them to do with what they want, and a portion for the gov to do what they want. It also doesn't punish people for working hard and making a lot of money since they're not getting taxed on their wages. It does however "punish" them for things that are excessive and not needed.

This would also make it so that there would be no earmarking of federal funds that you and I pay to the government for projects in some other state that we care less about.

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You must exclude from this necessities of life the biggest coming to mind is food, medicine I`m sure we could make a list for these also ensure that there is no taxing of an existing tax. In Canada we have a sales tax and a goods and service tax. Have one for the province sales and one for the federals GST the problem you run into is that no matter who`s in charge if they feel they need more money then they simply increase them 1 % point and the price of everything goes up. There should No increase without justification

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Here is a consolidation and paraphrase of the two posts so far on a flat sales tax:


Currently all monies that we pay to the IRS in the form of income taxes goes directly to the Federal Reserve to pay the INTEREST on the money that the government borrows from them. That is why we as a nation constantly have an increasing deficit. We are never paying down the PRINCIPAL on that loan from the Fed, only the interest. Which is why we always need more money and they have to constantly raise taxes. It is also the cause of inflation because the more we borrow, the less the dollar is worth, and the higher the price of goods go, the higher wages go, and so on. It's quite a vicious cycle.

We need to eliminate both the Fed and federal income taxes. To raise revenue, we could establish a flat sales tax in every state on goods and services.

A decision would have to be made concerning the necessities of life (food, medicine, clothing). We could:

a. Exclude them
b. Tax them at a low rate: for example 1% going to the state and 1% going to the federal government

General goods and services would have a higher tax with say 4% going to the state and another 3% going to the federal government.

Luxury items like cars and homes over a certain price, and other luxury items would have a higher tax on them.

The advantage of not taxing income and taxing goods and services instead is that people have incentive to work hard and make a lot of money, but are discouraged from spending excessively for unnecessary items.

Another advantage is that there would be no earmarking of funds that you and I pay to the federal government for projects in some other state that we care less about.

There should be no flat sales tax on items that have an existing tax already.

Some provision needs to be made so that there is no increase in the tax rates without justification.

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From 'seashore' above... We need to eliminate both the Fed and federal income taxes. To raise revenue, we could establish a flat sales tax in every state on goods and services.

A decision would have to be made concerning the necessities of life (food, medicine, clothing). We could:

a. Exclude them

Begin reaching for sustainability leading towards abundance that costs nothing to maintain and we will eliminate taxes, currency, and corruptive power! Every household can begin to remove themselves from the grid!!!

A large list but supporting something in existence only holds it in power, good or bad. Remove attention to it and it falls into entropy.

Exchange ideas, inventions, knowledge, free energy, alchemy, nutrition, illumination, youthfulness, etc. These are all non taxable and not controllable if openly provided for all, and this creates a spiraling evolution instead of a circulating currency bankers paradigm.

The desire for manufactured materialism is what makes us go to work for a paycheck and supports the IMF; money is owned by negative OPI so eliminate dependence on their trick.

For example, draw in technology that is 1000's (or more) of years ahead of our time let's say and begin to materialize its manifestation into the Now timeframe instead of waiting for 'someone else' (a corporation or government let's say) to try and own it.

Maybe a large gap between what could exist as part of everyday life and what we are use to for convenience but the sooner this is contemplated and thought out the sooner the excitement builds for participating in bringing in the unknown new!

Base metal, 'Iron' will rust from exposure to the elements if not protected, likewise the human body will age and decay if left to the current way of life introduced by corporations! Moving in the direction with focus and intention of trade and exchange amongst neighbors friends and family can open opportunity's of new forms of materialism that is conducive to Harmony and Balance. And this requires not genius nor might, but simply to ask and observe in allowance when and where the 'New' can come from.

Luxury and abundance does not have to be purchased with currency and there is no permission needed for asking exactly what 'New' is there... expand the mind and contemplate what can be brought into our existence that no one can own and have power over ... ever!

Open the gateways of Inspiration, Discovery, and Adventure.... En Masse!!!!! :wink2:

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "The Food Chain"...
clean up our FOOD. 80% percent of what's sold at WalMartSuperCtrs is trash!

There should be no need for designated "health food stores"..<< geesh !

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Get rid of GMO, Insurance Companies and the phara cartel too... maybe private attorneys as well.

This list is worth of cutting and pasting to send/email off to local legislators.

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PaL,

I want to include the NO TAX option in the list but I need some help understanding so I know how to word it...

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I would like to avoid the word "sustainability" because of how the word is used by some. Please see this thread.

Christo888,

What is "OPI" here?

I'll be back later. I'm thinking about the wording I would like to propose...

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Carol,

How would we recover from disasters without insurance companies? Is there a suggestion for a better protection? How would this work?

How about adding "reform the insurance industry" to the list?

How about adding "have a discussion of the desired role of private attorneys in society" to the list?

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Originally Posted by Carol
Get rid of...maybe private attorneys...

If we go back to common law we won`t need Lawyers they should be confined to only UCC law that is what they are trained for , The law society creates the laws we are forced to live under . I do not recall giving them authority over me