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Dantheman62 04-16-2009 01:29 AM

Revolution is Brewing!
 
Thousands rally with 'tea parties' on tax day,

ATLANTA – Whipped up by conservative commentators and bloggers, tens of thousands of protesters staged "tea parties" around the country Wednesday to tap into the collective angst stirred up by a bad economy, government spending and bailouts. The rallies were directed at President Barack Obama's new administration on a symbolic day: the deadline to file income taxes. Protesters even threw what appeared to be a box of tea bags toward the White House, causing a brief lockdown at the compound.

Shouts rang out from Kentucky, which just passed tax increases on cigarettes and alcohol, to Salt Lake City, where many in the crowd booed Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman for accepting about $1.5 billion in stimulus money. Even in Alaska, where there is no statewide income tax or sales tax, hundreds of people held signs and chanted "No more spending."

"Frankly, I'm mad as hell," said businessman Doug Burnett at a rally at the Iowa Capitol, where many of the about 1,000 people wore red shirts declaring "revolution is brewing." Burnett added: "This country has been on a spending spree for decades, a spending spree we can't afford."

In Boston, a few hundred protesters gathered on the Boston Common — a short distance from the original Tea Party — some dressed in Revolutionary garb and carrying signs that said "Barney Frank, Bernie Madoff: And the Difference Is?" and "D.C.: District of Communism."

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up a tea party at Austin City Hall with his stance against the federal government, as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

In Atlanta, thousands of people gathered outside the Capitol, where Fox News Channel conservative pundit Sean Hannity was set to broadcast his show Wednesday night. One protester's sign read: "Hey Obama you can keep the change."

Julie Reeves, of Covington, brought her Chihuahua Arnie, who wore a tiny anti-IRS T-shirt. "I want the government to get its hand the hell out of my wallet," Reeves said.

The tea parties were promoted by FreedomWorks, a conservative nonprofit advocacy group based in Washington and led by former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, who is now a lobbyist.

Organizers said the movement developed organically through online social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter and through exposure on Fox News.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090415/...x_day_protests

alyscat 04-16-2009 01:33 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I am always amazed at those who let their political affiliations run them. As I recall, the original bankster bailout occurred during the Republican administration. :mfr_lol:
alys

777 The Great Work 04-16-2009 01:55 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Interesting,because Salt lake is the area within the solar plexus,from where you pay your taxes. :lol3:

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 02:13 AM

Tea party victory in lansing, michigan
 
Tea Party Victory in Lansing

Posted by Adam de Angeli on 04/15/09 6:25 PM

"We had no trouble with any counterdemonstrators of any kind."

Article and photos: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

UPDATED 4/17/2009: VIDEO NOW POSTED (3:14): A crowd of maybe 5,000 and a strong showing of Campaign for Liberty members. http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=16050



Ron Paul at Clear Lake Tea Party on April 15

Posted by Matt Hawes on 04/14/09

As part of the April 15th Tea Party activities, Dr. Paul will be speaking at the Clear Lake Tea Party in his home district!

The Tea Party starts at 6pm central at Clear Lake Park, 5001 Nasa Parkway, Seabrook, TX.

As activists gather all across the country on April 15th to protest the monstrous growth of our government, Congressman Paul is excited to attend this event in his home district and to be among friends and neighbors while promoting the Constitution.

Speakers to be expected at the Clear Lake Texas Tea Party this April 15th will include.
Galveston County Tax Collector Cheryl Johnson; Former Harris County Tax Collector / Assessor Paul Bettencourt & 2008 Presidential candidate, Congressman, Ron Paul

For more information, visit the Clear Lake Tea Party website. http://www.clearlaketeaparty.com/ includes American Tea Party Anthem video. Also video of Red Skelton's "Pledge of Allegiance" 1/14/1969 :thumb_yello:

Source and comments: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

I'm looking forward to watch the live videos of this one.




Official Statement on Ron Paul and Tax Day Tea Parties

April 15, 2009:

ARLINGTON, VA - As activists across the country hold national tea parties, Campaign for Liberty president John Tate issued the following statement:

"The concept of the modern day Tea Party began on December 16, 2007 when supporters of Ron Paul's presidential campaign came together and raised over $6 million online in one day. The tremendous success of that event led activists in the freedom movement and members of the Campaign for Liberty to begin planning today's Tax Day Tea Parties.

"Success always brings company, and it is very positive that so many conservatives, libertarians, Republicans, constitutionalists and even progressives have come together and joined our efforts. All Americans who are sincere about cutting out of control government spending are welcome to stand with Dr. Paul and the Campaign for Liberty as we fight to take our country back."

Congressman Ron Paul is the honorary chairman of Campaign for Liberty. For more information, visit www.campaignforliberty.com.

Source: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

Dantheman62 04-16-2009 03:50 AM

Re: Tea party victory in lansing, michigan
 
Thanks for the links pandL, wow there's some good videos there! I really had no idea this was so big!

BROOK 04-16-2009 04:34 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I had to share this pic
http://blogs.usatoday.com/.a/6a00d83...228f970c-200wi

Rainchild 04-16-2009 04:50 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I just saw it on the news today! it's stunning!

recallone 04-16-2009 04:52 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Gerald Celente: Tea Parties are just the beginning, we are going to see a revolution

777 The Great Work 04-16-2009 04:53 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
How about this one , boy is the propaganda getting Thick.:wall::wall:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/243...agwitharms.jpg

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 05:10 AM

Sacramento Tea Party !!!!!
 
Sacramento Tea Party !!!!!

Posted by Fenian Minuteman on 04/15/09 10:43 PM

Fox News

People in 50 States Gathering For "Tea Party" Protests.

Michelle Malkin, Syndicated Columnist

Video (5:32): http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=16027



"Audit the Fed" support shows at Tea Parties

Posted by Matt Hawes on 04/15/09 9:57 PM

On Glenn Beck's broadcast from the San Antonio Tea Party, a Ron Paul supporter had a great chance to explain his reasons for coming to the Tea Party and to ask those attending and watching to support HR 1207. Way to go!

Video (8:49): http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments



Tea Party Victory in Grand Rapids, Michigan

Posted by Justin DeWind on 04/15/09 9:27 PM

We certainly didn't have as many Campaign For Liberty members as the Tea Party in Lansing had. However, we distributed 1500 economic freedom fliers and the equivalent of that in HR 1207 (it also included other bills) fliers. Unfortunately having that many fliers still wasn't enough and we ran out before we were able to distribute them to everyone.

The reception we recieved was extraordinarily positive; people cheered us, asked for our fliers, and thanked us for the work we were doing.

Photos: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=16017

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 08:07 AM

Syracuse , New York - Tax Day Tea Party , Harry's Coverage On April 15 , 2009
 
Syracuse , New York - Tax Day Tea Party , Harry's Coverage On April 15 , 2009

http://harrythomas.info
This is some raw footage I threw together real quick . I have over an hour of footage. Bad news is most of it was shot near the podium and the music and speeches were so Loud it was inaudible. I will have to find a way to remove the audio from the MP4s. I used here the most "quiet" footage that was shot.

The David Gay interview was actually the best taken. See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD33DYTgeUY

Video (10:27): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAhMUvPtWVE

Wow, lots of participants and "The People" appear to be very hungry for any information...waking up?

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 08:15 AM

April 15, 2009 TEA Party in City Hall, New York City
 
April 15, 2009 TEA "Taxed Enough Already" Party in City Hall, New York City

Large Crowd, Short Clip

Video (1:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ttmKadC3k

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 08:20 AM

Twin Cities Tax Day Tea Party
 
Twin Cities Tax Day Tea Party

Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota

Turnout was enormous. First estimate: 8,000. Second estimate: 10,000.

Video (1:16): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961IKyzx9e0


Only a few videos showing up tonight on youtube. I imagine tomorrow you will be able to search any city and TEA Party and come up with a number of videos.

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 08:57 AM

Phoenix Capitol Tea Party
 
Here is a series of 10 videos just up from Kylsport at youtube of the Phoenix, Arizona TEA Party.

Phoenix Capitol Tea Party

Video 1 (2:43): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX8sS...eature=channel

The rest are under MORE FROM: Kylsport

Love the signs...creativity abounds.

"The Pirates are in D.C." LOL


Actually this one from Phoenix had some good close ups of signs (2:53): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZHJ8tpHYM

alyscat 04-16-2009 03:23 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Interesting comments from George Ure on the tea party movement on his Urban Survival this morning.

And do remember, he's not a fan of either political party LOL.
alys

Surial 04-16-2009 03:52 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I am sure this has already been mentioned but Texas just declared sovereignty with the 10th amendment recently. I guess this is a peaceful revolution thus far. However, I hope people do not fall for a violent revolution. This would be playing into the hands of the strategy makers. This would also give a good reason to start Martial Law. This is what some of them want.

So, hopefully these states that are going in their own direction continue to do so in a peaceful manner until some kind of solution has been made. We are witnessing the many changes in the United States. Much of this has to do with too many regulations and overwhelming rules placed on individual states. It is getting to the point that there is so much red tape that it is hard for some states to function. So what is the sovereign count now 23 or 24 states?

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 04:16 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 129591)
I am sure this has already been mentioned but Texas just declared sovereignty with the 10th amendment recently. I guess this is a peaceful revolution thus far. However, I hope people do not fall for a violent revolution. This would be playing into the hands of the strategy makers. This would also give a good reason to start Martial Law. This is what some of them want.

So, hopefully these states that are going in their own direction continue to do so in a peaceful manner until some kind of solution has been made. We are witnessing the many changes in the United States. Much of this has to do with too many regulations and overwhelming rules placed on individual states. It is getting to the point that there is so much red tape that it is hard for some states to function. So what is the sovereign count now 23 or 24 states?



Thanks Suriel,

Please see this thread regarding states, including a post (#22) yesterday on Texas, that have filed for sovereignty.

"Lawmakers in 20 States Move to Reclaim Sovereignty" ~ Jerome Corsi
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10889

Perhaps, I could have one of the monitors change the name of the thread. I was making an attempt to keep these updates in one thread.

PaL

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 04:19 PM

CNN Reporter Blows Up LIVE At Chicago Tea Party!
 
CNN Reporter Blows Up LIVE At Chicago Tea Party!

Posted by boudica on 04/16/09 02:40 AM

Mind you the first guy should have explained the definition of ECONOMIC Fascism, which would have been a more intelligent debate, but she makes a statement that it IS offensive, rather than phrase it as a question, such as "Can you explain what you mean, as some people would find that to be offensive".

Then the poor guy with the baby? You could tell from the beginning she'd already decided she didn't like him or anything he might have to say. He was quoting Lincoln and she starts debating him like it's Crossfire or The Factor or something??? Isn't she just suppose to ask questions and get answers and then ask a follow up, not interject HER thoughts, feelings or opinions, and CERTAINLY not openly chastise this man! No wonder the crowd was turning on her. People know this isn't right! She was basically a anti-protester with a camera and live feed to thousands. And her unprofessional comments at the end and the look on her face are rather like a disgruntled teenager. VERY POOR JOURNALISTIC SKILLS, VERY UNPROFESSIONAL!

If she hadn't been arguing with the protesters or treating them with open hostility, they might have responded differently, avoiding the whole problem. And even if they did "start" something with her before we see this clip, a professional would have handled it better.

Video (1:47): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxKMr2wnhk

Source: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=16045

Sarahmay 04-16-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 129591)
I am sure this has already been mentioned but Texas just declared sovereignty with the 10th amendment recently. I guess this is a peaceful revolution thus far. However, I hope people do not fall for a violent revolution. This would be playing into the hands of the strategy makers. This would also give a good reason to start Martial Law. This is what some of them want.

So, hopefully these states that are going in their own direction continue to do so in a peaceful manner until some kind of solution has been made. We are witnessing the many changes in the United States. Much of this has to do with too many regulations and overwhelming rules placed on individual states. It is getting to the point that there is so much red tape that it is hard for some states to function. So what is the sovereign count now 23 or 24 states?

The tea party phenomenon is interesting, although you gotta realize that it is being promoted by desperate neo-cons that have lost power recently. But it is attracting a very diverse crowd. Mostly disgruntled republicans, but also your garden-variety racists, libertarians who hate taxes in general no matter what they are spent on, and the conspiracy folks who see evil in every power structure.

The stuff about Texas is just posturing from a governor who is basically a figurehead (Texas governors have no real power) and some fringe elements in the legislature. George Ure of UrbanSurvival.com had some interesting comments about that today.

From George Ure:

In case you hadn't noticed, the Johnny-coming-lately 'patriotic fervor' which has supposedly driven Texas government to threaten to send troops to the Mexican Border, and now this latest independence talk, seems to have arrived concurrently with president Obama's election to the White House. But where were Rick Perry and his cohorts during the Bush reign? I didn't hear about Rick Perry mobilizing state resources to build a border fence then....

When I see folks out whipping up the 'tea party' sentiment, I ask myself "Is this part of a sincere, ongoing effort that was spawned before the Bushco republicorps lost first sitting at the teat of lobbyists? Or, has it arisen more recently? Pardon my pointing this out, but seems to me that it's more bluster and braggadocio...

peaceandlove 04-16-2009 05:16 PM

APRIL 15th TEA PARTY VIDEOS
 
TAX DAY TEA PARTY, PHOTOS AND VIDEOS http://taxdayteaparty.com/



Sunshine Review

Your source for government transparency

12 VIDEOS: http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/...a_Party_videos

Humble Janitor 04-16-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alyscat (Post 129356)
I am always amazed at those who let their political affiliations run them. As I recall, the original bankster bailout occurred during the Republican administration. :mfr_lol:
alys

Yeah and that's why this tea party nonsense is just that: A partisan attempt by conservatives to stir up their base.

Nothing more.

orthodoxymoron 04-16-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
We may be witnessing a Constitution Revolution which draws Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. One possible example of this is Alex Jones...who has been very hard on BOTH George Bush and Barack Obama...mostly regarding Constitutional issues. Ron Paul is another possible example of a constitutionalist who appeals to all three groups. The Constitution Party may do very well in upcoming elections. A sleeping giant may have been awakened. We the sheeple may be morphing into responsible human beings.

Humble Janitor 04-16-2009 08:48 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 129652)
We may be witnessing a Constitution Revolution which draws Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. One possible example of this is Alex Jones...who has been very hard on BOTH George Bush and Barack Obama...mostly regarding Constitutional issues. Ron Paul is another possible example of a constitutionalist who appeals to all three groups. The Constitution Party may do very well in upcoming elections. A sleeping giant may have been awakened. We the sheeple may be morphing into responsible human beings.

I'll believe that when pigs fly and people stop crying "SOCIALISM" and wearing tea bags on their head.

Seriously, drop that rhetoric and we can work together.

orthodoxymoron 04-16-2009 10:34 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 129678)
I'll believe that when pigs fly and people stop crying "SOCIALISM" and wearing tea bags on their head.

Seriously, drop that rhetoric and we can work together.

When pigs start flying...I'm going to be wearing more than tea bags on my head...and doing more than crying "SOCIALISM'!!:mfr_omg:

Somewhat unrelatedly...what is the difference between Communism, National Socialism(NAZI)...and Socialism as commonly referred to today?

The commonalities are partially revealed by examining the people and groups who funded(and fund) them. The same people.:mfr_omg: Corrupt Capitalists!

Ok! Ok! I'll drop the rhetoric! Your people can talk to my people...and maybe we can work something out!

Iceman 04-16-2009 11:25 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I think we need to get some tea party's going on here in canada. I live in Ontario not only do i pay 30% of my income in tax they have now put a 13% tax on every thing here in ontario. we use to pay 13 % on somethings now its on everything

Humble Janitor 04-16-2009 11:58 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
And where were these folks the past 8 years of Bush? Blindly buying the lies?

That's why this whole movement is fishy to me. I know what we're supposed to leave this **** behind as part of the old paradigm. However, I'm starting to think that it's a general disdain of Obama more than it has to do with paying taxes.

orthodoxymoron 04-17-2009 01:06 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
If you haven't already...please watch 'The Money Masters': http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...19560256183936. If you already have...watch it again.
It puts everything in perspective.

Dantheman62 04-17-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 129704)


:thumb_yello: :thumb_yello:

peaceandlove 04-17-2009 05:41 AM

Dr. Rand Paul at Bowling Green KY Tea Party 4-15-09
 
I like what Dr. Rand Paul had to say at the beginning of his speech at Bowling Green.

"About 200 years ago Samuel Adams and a bunch of rabble rousers threw some tea in Boston Harbor. They were quite mad about a few things and Sam Adams famously said:

Quote:

"It doesn't take a majority to prevail, but it takes an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in the minds of men."
If you watch Keith Olbermann he says, 'Oh just a bunch of stooges for Fox News.' Or they say, 'Oh just a bunch of shills for the Republican Party.'

I'm not out here representing Fox News, I'm not out here representing the Republican Party.

I'm out here because I'm unhappy because 'our government' is spending us into oblivion.

We need to acknowledge that there's enough blame and it's bi-partisan blame. (continues on about bailouts and deficits)

There's enough blame to go all around.

We need new people in Washington We need people who have believability.

We should acknowledge that we are paying more in taxes now than food clothing and housing combined. The number one item in your family budget is not your food and your housing or your rent, it's your taxes; that's a mistake.

There will be dire consequences.

We are in danger of becoming a Banana Republic."


His inspiring speech...continues.

Dr. Rand Paul at Bowling Green KY Tea Party 4-15-09

"Let's change what we've got before it's too late."

Video (8:14): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVv--TAs7hE

Source: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

orthodoxymoron 04-17-2009 06:19 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 129732)
And where were these folks the past 8 years of Bush? Blindly buying the lies?

That's why this whole movement is fishy to me. I know what we're supposed to leave this **** behind as part of the old paradigm. However, I'm starting to think that it's a general disdain of Obama more than it has to do with paying taxes.


You may have a point here. We seem to find it easier to be up in arms and hate people...than to calmly study the Constitution...and the writings and events surrounding the formation of this great experiment...the United States of America. And then to rationally apply the Constitution to the challenges we face. I don't even do this...even though I'm trying to focus on the Constitution. I want this movement to have deep roots...and not just be an angry flash in the pan.

I wanted Pat Buchanan for President in '92...and he was a Republican campaigning against an incumbent Republican President...George H.W. Bush. That was a Republican no no...but I liked what Buchanan had to say...and I didn't like what Bush said and did. But there was little real focus on the Constitution. When Bill Clinton was elected...the Republicans were livid...especially the Conservatives...like Rush Limbaugh. They mercilessly attacked Clinton for 8 years. Much of it was deserved...but a lot of it was in very poor taste. But there was little real focus on the Constitution. When George W. Bush was elected...there were high hopes for a Compassionate Conservatism. These hopes were quickly extinguished...especially after 9/11. But there was little real focus on the Constitution.

Leading up to the '08 election...Ron Paul emerged as a genuine Constitutionalist...and the mainstream media laughed and shut him out...hard. Now that the globalists and banksters are openly taking over...the laughing has stopped...and the alternative media is overriding the mainstream media. People are jumping on the Constitutional bandwagon...and better late than never. Alex Jones rants and raves...and most of it makes sense. But even now...is there a real focus on the Constitution?

Americans don't focus on the U.S. Constitution...in the same way that Christians don't focus on the Teachings of Jesus. Is there a supernatural reason for this? We wrestle not against flesh and blood...but against principalities and powers...and spiritual wickedness in high places. Think about it.

Humble Janitor 04-17-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
I don't understand HOW anyone could vote for Pat Buchanan. He's quite an ugly person, moreso inside.

peaceandlove 04-17-2009 05:43 PM

Ron Paul at Clear Lake Tea Party
 
Ron Paul at Clear Lake Tea Party

Posted by Bryce on 04/17/09 10:53 AM

Video (14:29): http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments



Doug Wead on the Paulian Tax Protesters vs. the GOP Elite

:thumbdown: Go on, no really, keep it up, keep it up. Give us another news story that ignores the only person in America who saw this coming and the only one who is talking sense and the only one who has the answers. Go on.

Posted by Anthony Gregory on 04/16/09 4:44 PM

Once again, Ron Paul deserved to be in the headlines and once again the national media totally ignored him. Wednesday, the nationwide “Tea Party” protests of big taxes and big spending was the number two story in the nation on most television networks and number one on some. And how could they avoid it? Thousands showed up from coast to coast to express their dismay. What is Obama doing? How can we keep printing paper money? Doesn’t he know that a wave of inflation will hit the shore?

The fact is that the first, notable, Tea Party since Boston was launched at a Ron Paul campaign rally in Austin, Texas in December of 2007. The second was the famous “money bomb” fundraiser for Ron Paul on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party in the middle of the 2008 presidential run. And most of the crowd and organizers of yesterday’s event were Ron Paul supporters. But congressman Ron Paul, the Nostradamus from Texas, who predicted the crisis we now face, was not mentioned once by the national media.

Credit (or blame) for the event was given to former Texas congressman, Dick Armey, a nice guy but not THE guy or to Newt Gingrich, or to Washington conservative think tanks that mine for Ron Paul money but never give him any respect or credit, or FOX television who actually blocked him from an early debate in 2008, or from sinister “corporate interests.” Huh? Gee… I wonder what corporation could possibly be interested in lower taxes and less government spending? General Motors? AIG?

Article continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

orthodoxymoron 04-17-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 129876)
I don't understand HOW anyone could vote for Pat Buchanan. He's quite an ugly person, moreso inside.

Could you be more specific as to why you consider Pat Buchanan to be an ugly person? Are you a supporter of the records of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton? Which of these three men was most supportive of the U.S. Constitution? Which of these three men was most supportive of U.S. sovereignty? Are you a supporter of the United Nations? Are you a supporter of the New World Order? Two of the three candidates were...

Pat Buchanan was an insider who turned against the New World Order in a rather abrasive manner. He was a back room strategist and bull dog...who lacked social grace...but knew a hell of a lot about what was really going on...and was troubled by it...and tried to do something about it...instead of bending over like the other two...

777 The Great Work 04-17-2009 08:30 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
To desire a Revolution, is the desire to go back to where you started from,as in a Re Volving door.

R = 18 =666 Another trick word


E-volution to transcend the 5 senses

orthodoxymoron 04-17-2009 10:01 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Evolutionary change generally works better than revolutionary change...but there are exceptions. The current 'revolution' is really a paleoconservative attempt to maintain the constitutional status quo...and to reinstitute the rule of legitimate law. The real revolutionaries are those who seek to replace the U.S. Constitution with the Old World Disorder Reptilian Theocracy.

Humble Janitor 04-17-2009 10:12 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work (Post 129953)
To desire a Revolution, is the desire to go back to where you started from,as in a Re Volving door.

R = 18 =666 Another trick word


E-volution to transcend the 5 senses

Interesting take on it.

And for orthodoxymoron: Pat Buchanan has already been exposed as anti-immigrant and racist. Do you want to support someone like that? Feel free to but that's part of the old paradigm and it's no different from supporting any other politician (Obama included).

They're all crooks and liars but to me, the right-wingers are even worse and always will be. Anyone who uses immigration to stir up people is missing the point altogether: What does "Give me your tired, your poor" mean? This is already a nation of immigrants or people descended from immigrants.

Steve_G 04-18-2009 12:20 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 129705)
Somewhat unrelatedly...what is the difference between Communism, National Socialism(NAZI)...and Socialism as commonly referred to today?



Well, with Communism you get victimisation of minority groups, concentration camps, no individual freedoms, massive state control of every aspect of life and a cabal of elite holding all the power and wealth. You go left to get there, hence the term 'left wing.'

And with National Socialism you get victimisation of minority groups, concentration camps, no individual freedoms, massive state control of every aspect of life and a cabal of elite holding all the power and wealth. You go right to get there, hence the term 'right wing.'

Socialism is the mindset (for want of a better word) that leads to Communism and National Socialism- the process of centralisation of power on the grounds that individual freedoms are outweighed by the needs of the country, continent or world. Sometimes called National Security, economic reform or by other terms.

The problem is, most people are so focused on how great one wing is and had bad the other wing is they tend to miss the bloody great owl in the middle which happily flies on to the same destination it's always had.


I think that about sums it up. Everyone please feel free to fill in anything I missed or correct any mistakes. :thumb_yello:

peaceandlove 04-18-2009 07:57 AM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_G (Post 130014)
The problem is, most people are so focused on how great one wing is and had bad the other wing is they tend to miss the bloody great owl in the middle which happily flies on to the same destination it's always had. :thumb_yello:

Three HOOTS from me!!!

:toot: :toot: :toot:

The owls in my back yard agree too, usually 7 hoots though.

iainl140285 04-18-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 130097)
Three HOOTS from me!!!

:toot: :toot: :toot:

The owls in my back yard agree too, usually 7 hoots though.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/911/owl20dollar.jpg

:mfr_lol:

peaceandlove 04-18-2009 05:02 PM

Re: Revolution is Brewing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iainl140285 (Post 130133)

Oops, I forgot about that owl, hmmmmmm.


Governor Says Texans May Want to Secede From Union But Probably Won't

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights.

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

Article continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=4224


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