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More and more names seem to slowly ebb away and yes, it does feel lonely at times. Interestingly, it doesn't seem like there is a similar influx of new names. Now I don't have the statistics on this, but either new registrations are terribly quiet or there is something up.

Now you've stuck around, lost your faith or slowly submerged... or you're simply lurking for whatever reason.
Whatever it is, report back to base and let us know what's up.
Personal business, lack of time, wrong threads, wrong attitude? I'm curious.

Let Avalon know. :)

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hmmm, could there be a hidden agenda?, could there be a new direction coming? hmmm

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The ground crew is a myth. This is a debaters, tall tales,
and liars society. All that is missing is the beer.

I come here to kill time while we pay off the house, and
chat on occasion with the handful of folks who are actually
doing something. It will last until the net goes dark or my
membership runs out.

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Also it seems a long time member was told to, hmmm how should I put this, "cease" posting so much!

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Yeah and he's feeling really low right now too!
I'm actually lucky because my plans are made. I didn't come here to get into a groundcrew. I came here to learn as much as possible. I already know how to survive, so I came here to learn about all the other stuff which I knew nothing about any of it 8 months ago!
After now reading 4 books, which I got out of the Avalon library, and watching 100's of videos, I've learned more in the last 8 months than in the last 8 years!
So I come here now to just stay up on all the recent happenings.

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Baggy that is so funny you made me come out of my closet.

Hi everyone, I'm usually here lurking.

Ok time to go back in...

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Well, my groundcrew plans are well in hand, and I sure as hell don't lie!!!. I came here to learn more survival stuff and meet like-minded people. Avalon has more than met my expectations. I get a bit frustrated at the doom and gloom stuff and have a rant sometimes, but that passes and I read some some great posts here and great threads.

Cheers

Carmen

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i pop in most days to check it out.
groundcrew is out of the question for me, due to my location. haven't found anyone on here with several hundred miles.
i was sponsored here, so it'll expire sometime, not sure when.
i think it really stupid that there is a subscripthion anyways.
the reason we were given was to pay for more interviews and fabulous insights, which seem rather lacking. avalon is no different than astrovera anymore, except astrovera has more lively debates and discussions. i pick up some gems from both of them, and a lot of b**ls**t as well. there are some rather vivid imaginations 'out there' (double meaning intended)

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Some folks are too busy doing to post. Luana is one of them. Crazy Waters made one post seeking folks to join
his sustainable community. No one bothered to reply. I chatted with them privately, but their goals and mine are
different.

I remember MMe M and offered her a gifted membership
before she left. While this place is pontificating about
space brothers, real people are hurting.

Yes I have some back channel information, and that is
all I will say about that.

The biggest issue with me is this nation is falling from
within (insert name of nation). No one cares. It's just
doomer porn. They found thermite in the dust of the
WTC and no one cares. They want your guns and no one
cares. They want to chip you and no one cares. They want to criminalize your garden and no one cares. Your
only saving grace is the divine influence who may save
you from yourselves. When they do criminalize your
garden they won't have the cash to hire the personnel
to enforce it. It will be possible to ignore them to death.
If you get off the government tit that is.

How many who read this still bank with one of the dirty
dozen? How many who read this are working on their
sustainable local community currency (thanks Waterman) How many who read this know anything
about financial permaculture? How many who read this
have a victory garden - even if it is just tomatoes in a pot
on the balcony? How many who read this have contacted
their representative to be a pain in their backside even
if it is just for show. How many have run for office or
told a co-worker even if you get the dumb look.

When I was a young pharmacist I had a very special patron who was a survivor of the Nazi work camps. He
took me aside and told me it was my responsibility to be
vigilant and vocal. I have done that. I taught my children
and actually told them not to come home - they are both
living overseas. I have tried to tell you who have ears
to hear. I was guilty of posting too much as our esteemed colleague, and stopped when the posts were
attacked on fine details with ad hominem arguments.

Take the forum down, and just donate to Kerry Cassidy.
I don't care. That is ultimately what it is all about. Personally, I would rather see you donate the money to
Naomi Wolf.

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i shouldn't 'be here' right now but i just finished emailing you tons of stuff!


(xoxoxooxoxoxoxooxoo)


YOU ARE RAD!

hugs

j

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And .....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......


I WILL NOT BE STAYIN AROUND...

BUT NOW YOU KNOW AND I KNOW AND ALL IS

LIGHT.

YEAH YEAH!

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you woman...are out of line :thumbdown:

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How do you tell a woman who's haveing birth pains,when and how to give birth..:original:

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i don't know about any of this but id like info on how i can help get community back that's why i joined is to be able to learn and share and meet some people for if things get real bad haven't found them yet but if you are there let me know thank you

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I've connected with some folks from Avalon and was not happy with what happened. I'm now of the opinion that family and close friends.. or those in the neighborhood works better then strangers. Some of this is based on the reality that there may be one type of personality on the internet and something else again in real life.

I've repeatedly said that the focus needs to be on doing what one can do now while there is the grid and internet. Having made 3 major relocations in the past 10 years all I have to say is starting over from scratch is time-consuming - especially when building new relationships.

Our focus is getting our land productive with fruit trees and the aquaponics system built and producing.

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Paid subscription is becoming a nuisance to me too, but when I think how much negativity there was here before, I think: let's keep it the way it is. There are ebbs and tides here like in the ocean, so i guess it is normal. It is getting warmer now, summer is coming in the northern hemisphere and people are spending more time outside instead in front of the computer. many of us have gained so much knowledge and new information that don't have to peek in too often. There isn't much new stuff, we have read, seen and heard most of it. We have shared our opinions with one another, know one another to a certain degree. or maybe we are quietely waiting for something big, whatever it will be....because we are yearning for a change.

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CQ, CQ I hear you loud and clear. I recently got my ham radio license. I have a station set up on solar power too. I am here for the long haul. My connections that I have made thru here are great and the ground crew I have formed is just great. We have plans and Things will crumble around us and we will walk thru the dust hand in hand.

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hi i am just lurking around :)

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Now I appreciate all that posted here, but I feel more and more like Baggy. I have in no way means to garden or run for mayor, because I'm not in my own country and I have no intent of staying, I'm counting down the days till I leave with my backpack that has hopefully most of the basics to survive without society (apart from that pocket food generator, darn!).

What I really want to know is why there aren't any other undertakings like the Nexus thingy but on a physical level.
I'm not thinking about "let's spread the word that aliens are real and all is effed and you need to wake up". That doesn't work, we know that.

But surely there are other things a displaced community of people like this can be good for! The ground crew obviously is a lucky bet, either there are people close or not. I've made friends here, and good ones at that, and once I'm back in Germany this might just about be something, but hey there's more potential here, it just gets smoldered by all the freakout news and articles.
I've been here since November I think, have posted and learned so much and that I'm very thankful for, but seriously, it's been weeks and months now that I haven't heard anything 'new'. The only thing that's left is starting to study the details, which I simply won't do without having a 'plan' or intent for them.

Something that's been bothering me is that Free Energy is hardly ever mentioned on here. I never figured out whether it's real and usable or not.
Be that as it may, I'm after ideas... ideas as to how to do something productive with the group of people here that are actually all willing to act somehow, but never got the chance.
Any ideas?

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I connect with this statement most. it sure has gotten slow around here. I to have been silenced from web sites. not sure what happened here. missed it. and Im also down with GC. wish it would happen. to few awake enough to structure something. and spread out.

I support B & K!!!

cheers

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i dont know czym,it seems baggy is indeed on to something...

as i see it you have ppl who are allready relocated(they have the funds to do so aswell)

for the rest...i dont have a clue really

i mean where should one go? how to sustain yourself etc?

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Even though I empathise, I don't see it. No I don't like 'the human aspect' much either but that's no attitude to have if you decided to be here, stay or are 'too afraid to leave' is it?
I am determined at least to deal with what's here.... as long as I can get around bureaucracy that is. :sad:

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taken from Luminari...

Im not asking you to agree with me.

To be honest I really dont want to be here on this Planet, it absolutely repulses me, the human aspect not the natural. But seeing as I am here temporarily.. I may as well help look for solutions with you guys, as nauseating as it can be sometimes on this forum.

from dagon
so what's your plan. lets hear it. I may as well look for solutions with you. by the way. its all made up. nothing is real. in order to fix things on our planet. we need to start with everything you think you know. and that go's for everybody. in my opinion. maybe a black out from solar winds. to push us to stone age. closer to nature. that would be a good start.

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I'm here for the long haul, all of you from whatever direction your replying, some challanging, some imformative, some crittical, all the links that have taken me places to indeed connect the dots . I think one thing that really needs to be put forth here and all that post here is that there are many, many people who have never posted here but just learn from the dialog here. Another words all of you are the teachers in one sense to many unknowns. No matter how critical you may be , your direction of a view is just as important of the opposite point of view. I'm certainley not always good with words but I will say there are some on this board who are very articulate and clear in the way they explain theirselfs.

Baggy , There are many that care and oh yes learn from your posts. I would say many of the silent on this forum are looking for leaders to teach without recognition or praise required, only to realize there is a value in your thought and ideas and that is being absorbed by people you will never have contact with.

There are some worldly views on this site that help me understand from other perspectives of other cultures. And then there are views from individuals who make you feel like your at a jousting match.

But you know at the end of the day all the thoughts, ideas, imput, and light, it's all like it gets put into a great big funnel and by the end of the days condenses into goodness, because afterall know matter what you say on this board we all do have one thing in common and that is we all care about whats happening and we want to make it better by making people aware. Thats are common demonator.

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I see this as an incubator. How will people who care and are trying to be awakened about this stuff behave in this sort of seriously loosely structured sort of "community"? I for one have learned a great deal from some of you and for that I am thankful. But the way we show up here, I think, is related to how each of us shows up in the real world. Let's not forget that even if we count ourselves as "awakened" or "awakening" that we are going through a complete and easily overwhelming series of changes now. Who can even know exactly how to behave in such circumstances? Should we pattern our behavior on the channeled information from a guy who tells us to "buy gold and move to Ecuador"? I tried to get through all of the ground crew material but it mostly did not resonate in a way that I found helpful or particularly motivating. We will need community but can we really count on a stranger from the net? Maybe in some cases, but largely it will be, i think, trying to work with the people around us now and from there it's anybody's guess. I'm starting the garden, banking at a credit union, getting some supplies, learning here, paying down debt, but I'm also dealing with my own fear and denial and those of my peeps. This is a tough thing we're in the middle of.To become disillusioned because the ground crew thing is a "myth" seems a little harsh and unrealistic. Most people don't care. But the folks who show up here seem to be a generally loving bunch and are TRYING. I too would encourage the lurkers to say something once in a while. And, for that matter was shocked to hear that someone, maybe Antaletriangle?, was told they were posting too much after such a huge contribution to this forum.
Let's take it easy on one another, folks. If the forum seems a little less vital for a time, it's no reason to leave. Think of it like a marriage. Sometimes your honey is on top of the world, other times they're shuffling around in their slippers with a red nose and a box of kleenex.
This is going to be bumpy and messy and cyclical and imperfect. But we have created something useful and unique in an environment that doesn't favor it. I am not basing my life choices on Avalon but my path has been aided and changed by it and I have a lot of gratitude for it and you all.

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This isn't the first time Avalon has been "cleaned up" and it won't be the last. My apologies if I contributed directly or indirectly to the sidetracking of it's original mission.

While I love the idea of ground crews, there are logistical issues that stand in the way of me joining one and I simply would rather do this with friends and family than strangers who I may or may not be able to trust. I'm a strong believer in that when the time comes, one will know what to do. We have it built into ourselves. It's our survival instinct.

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Thanks for all your input so far. It seems indeed as if most opinions uttered here are the ones I suspect are present all throughout the board and I understand each of them.

I haven't opened this thread to criticise Avalon or be dismissive of what it has done so far or what it is capable of. I merely hope to motivate to bring about a different kind of conversation that I feel is lacking.

I don't have solutions like this, that's why I think we're all here, and none of us can solve the puzzle alone. What I think is going on so far if I may put it in a slightly romantic way, just to aid the idea: We all go off and do what we always did, but as we come together by the campfire in the evening, we hear great tales of what's possible, the illusion of reality and we're inspired... we also hear a lot of what goes wrong and we all say it's bad and nod and vow to do something about it. Most of us recognise that change starts from within which is great, but it's also an excuse to not do all the things that for example Baggy suggests. Yes, we are supportive of each other, no matter how much fights there are, but it always ends with a clap on the shoulder and a "Cheer up mate."

While that is all good and there is very little to be said against it, I had hoped that when I come together with my friends by the fire, there won't just be a listening to the old jester plays and the dance around the fire, but also some more personal stories of what happened to each throughout the day... what successes of losses there are.
Yes, we share concerns and losses, but I hardly ever hear of successes, and that confuses me. There might be some spiritual endeavours and I'm always glad to hear those, but on a physical plane, it's never a "Check out my garden." Why not? Why not have this kind of encouraging exchange?
I imagine (no I don't know) that if there was a little more of that driving and motivating force that each of us would leave 'the next morning' with the batteries a little more charged and with an attitude more eager to inspire others... which, who knows, might even lead to ground crews.

Let us hear of the ground crew you FOUND, we know about the ignorant who won't even consider the possibility.

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I don't think the online community is going to be much help, and may be inaccessible, if things get real bad. That's why I've been making an effort to meet the neighbors and get to know others with similar interests locally. I'm finding my community has more spiritually aware people than I initially expected (we've only been here just short of two years). Also, many types of artisans and craftsmen (blacksmiths, woodworkers, potters, etc.) who could fill vital roles if things get real bad. Many people with gardens, including one of our own, a neighbor with a greenhouse, woodlands, ponds... even a Tibetan cultural center nearby in Bloomington, IN. I'm in Brown County, IN. My involvement in CSETI is also partly about what to do if things get real bad.

For more community to happen online, I think people have to be confident about opening up a bit without being attacked. Given how some people have been treated here, that's a problem.

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I think this might be the reason, indeed.
Good to hear you've got a well formed group of people around you. I have the feeling that more of us have it if we learned how to connect properly.

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I've been feling a lot better for the last few weeks and am in the process of writing an e-book with all the knowledge and experience i've gathered through the years.. I feel it must be put on paper before I can take my next step.

Yes it has been pretty quite in the last couple of months and there is not much 'new' happening ... a quiet before the storm.. enjoy the quiet while you still can.

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I note your frustration Baggywrinkle and others at the seeming non-action indicated by members of this forum. I think that people are preparing. They are preparing quietly behind the scenes. I think that maybe there is a huge groundswell of people taking action to prepare for what is coming. The only different to this movement, or groundswell is that it is leaderless! That does not make it ineffective. In fact, that is how this groundswell of change, of preparation has to be. Many members just read, and take note, and take action. Sure, there will always be the ones who are all talk, no action, always will be. And also ones that only attack, they have nothing to add or offer help, but they will always be there too. Each to there own. Grasshoppers will bound about for awhile but the ants will just carry on preparing, quietly, listening to their intuition, knowingness, and inat wisdom.

This groundswell of spiritual energy is coming thick and fast now, and cannot be stopped. Will not be stopped. But you won't see people standing on soapboxes or gathering devotees. Those times are past, I think. People are their own authority. They know that they are responsible for creating and preparing for their own future, and they are doing it. Of that I have no doubt. The information is out there. People learn much from this forum and the wise ones apply it in there lives.

Love and Light to All Avalonians Throughout This Magical World

Carmen

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I sure hope you're right Carmen. I just wish they'd join forces a little more... I'm all for leaderless efforts but organisation is an issue.

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Just to clarify, who is attacking who? Just wondering.

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Depends on what goes under 'attack' huh? I could call some names but I can't count myself out either. ;)

@ TheChosen: I'm curious what format that will take. Let me know!