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Ok it looks like it could happen on the simulator.

It also looks as though its being illuminated from below also.

Surly one can work out the wind speed from the time it takes for the cloud to dissipate? If this matches up with the wind speed on the day then I would be more inclined to go with a missle. If the wind speed doesnt match up then its somthing eles. :smoke:

Stef

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Illogical thought? Explain please what is illogical..besides your theory of the rocket. What is Illogical?

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Hello Everyone,
This is my first post. Although i am interested in these things it was this incident that made me sign up to the forum. I shall be introducing myself in another post once i find the welcome thread or forum.

After the news broke and i saw the videos for the first time i was positive it was something extraordinary. Either a ufo or portal of somekind. I was ecstatic even after my mind was swayed to things of a classified government nature such as bluebeam, Haarp, etc, simply because it was new. An experience i could share in with humanity.

My joy started to fade when i saw more pictures, particularly those containing the sunlit tail end into the horizon. Last night i went to bed convinced that it was a Missile or rocket. I had to settle on something in order to get to sleep.

Overall i am open minded about what it could be, even after various animations on the net about it. For me it matters not What it is but Why. I think if it was a missile then fragments would have been retrieved by now and displayed by proud school children across Norway seeing i didn't hear of any impact or explosion upon impact.

I presume the government of Norway would have retrieved the pieces but with so many witnesses one would think some kind of impact would have been seen or heard even if all the fuel had burnt up. Still...

What worried me first was the thought of Russia testing missiles there knowing that Obama probably had secret service agents in place since a few days ago scouting security for the ceremony. Then i began to think of uboats lying in wait for Obama to get him on foreign soil. maybe some nervous operator released the missile early and it had to be self destructed. I dismissed this with thoughts that presumably there must be launch codes needed, authority given to lift toggle switch guards and so on.

Then i thought of disclosure and wondered if this was a prelude to it, softening the reaction of people. half expecting to see multiple anomalies reported today across the globe. No sign as yet.

I think for me, now; the most plausible explanation is misdirection. Like i said, i don't think people like me will ever find out first hand what it actually was or even why, but i think the why is more important.


I wonder how many Norwegians angry at Obama ( and there are reputed to be many ) were talking and thinking about a strange spiraling light in the sky today instead of talking about Obama?

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That was a bold statement concerning the masculine rational mind in general, which keeps us locked inside the box.

But if you are referring to the missile incident in general, there is nothing illogical about any other theories, but logic along shows how a missile can produce that effect.
I feel like a broken record now.

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Thank you for clarifying that

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Very true :thumb_yello:

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[QUOTE=chelmostef;197047]Much of the "light" in the photos appears to be smoke being illuminated from other light source(s). Looking at the stills it appears that smoke hung in the air after the flames burnt out and is illuminated from below giving this beam like effect. The best photo IMHO shows the light source on the ground, the small spiral of smoke within the larger cone/spiral of lighter smoke with the tight white spiral in the air. From that photo it seems to be a projectile of some sort spinning and expelling two smoke trails while assending into the atmosphere at an acute angle leaving a large spiraling cone of lighter smoke with a darker center trail.

I imagine this would have looked very different in the light of day.

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Also...... Is it not possible to know what the liquid is from what light is being reflected.. Anyone work at Nasa?

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Maybe there is a connection with LHC as i personaly think they are not using LHC for what they are telling as they do... different agenda.
source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1209171152.htm

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I can understand a once off effect like this being randomly caused by a missile gone wrong. But three events at different times this year in different parts of the world causing the same effect? COME ON! explain that.

There is the norway event.



There is the russian event.



and there is the china event.



All the same spiral effect. This is more than a coincidence.

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Good Vids :thumb_yello:

How Ironic would it be if some people where testing a missle on the day of Obamas peace prize, and the missle went wrong and every one found out that they were testing a missle!!! Im not saying thats the case Im still very open minded to what it could be.. If a missle is gonna "break" what a way to break.

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Kra: you know my first 2 reactions & feelings when I first read & saw the pics., were this.....its not a rocket/missile, but I wonder if its the LHC gone wrong......I posed that question earlier on this thread. Ever since the LHC became operational, I've had a bad feeling about it & I still do. Every time its reported as broken down, I am so happy. I believe it has the potential to do major damage. But I am also counting on the ET's to keep it in check. So for me I am considering it was caused by Cern, or a sophisticated plasma weapon?

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Well in my friend

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Guidance system failure. There are many ways for a guidance system fail (sensors, actuators, power), but a common end result would be the rocket nozzle going hard over to one side causing the missile to go into a spiral.

As for comments about the wind, my take on it is that most of the observed spirals (white and blue) are above the atmosphere. Only the lowest part of the blue spiral is in the atmosphere. Because the white spiral is out of the atmosphere, inertia of the exhaust causes the "black hole" when the rocket shuts off. If this were in the atmosphere the exhaust would only travel a short distance and then hang around. The big white spiral could have never formed in the atmosphere.

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In all the vids it looks more like a plasma kind of effect in the spiral than a Gas. It is too steady and independent of air movement.

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If you look at all of the available pictures you will see that it spreads and diffuses gradually. There is no air movement above Earth's atmosphere, so that does not apply to the comments I made. The illumination comes from the sun which is just below the horizon. You can see the red light of dawn in some of the pictures.

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Yes... i too think it has the potential to do great damage but i don't think that will happen because won't be allowed... it's not just us at stake. It could be that what we're talking here are some effects of using LHC and ET's intervened quickly. It's just a thought. Also i don't think last time LHC "broke" was because of a piece of bread dropped by a bird.

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Would it explain the same effect in all 3 videos? The sun was not in the same position in the China and Russian events. Do they buy their guidance systems from the same manufacturer? If so then the manufacturer will be very embarased. to have the same guidance system fail in the same way in 3 different cases. Why are the russians and others still testing misiles especially at night?

There are more questions than answers.

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Agreed...but they had to feed us some "crumb" of info for the failure:lol3:

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It's a bird! No, it's a plane! No, it's spiral chem trail left behind by one of the Galactic Federation Star Ships. :mfr_lol:

Upon new evidence of other videos that have been posted, especially the Chinese one and the one where a UFO, which was circular, appeared after the wormhole was created with blue light rays emanating from it, I think the conclusion of the Rocket Conclusion is becoming more debunked by the second. Still not ruling it out, but............

I may have stumbled upon a bridge here. It starts with the spiral effect. That spiral effect is established beyond this planet. As in the Black Hole of our Galaxy. It spirals clockwise. This is speculation at best but I think the frequency blue print of our Galaxy is established by the Black Hole. If that is the case, then we might be able to assume that since the Planet has the sacred geometry, Merkaba, then our Galaxy also has one. I keep coming back to chakras. Chakras spin and there are chakras within chakras. We also have a Merkaba. So the effect I am seeing is that these things step down is size as it goes. I have to ask that since our Galaxy is spinning clockwise, is there a parallel Milky Way spinning counter clockwise that we can't see? Or if we look from underneath it do we see it going counter clock wise. I ask that because of the polarity issues. Where the toilet water spins in the opposite direction when you flush it. It could be a phase shift that we are not able to see with our current receptive abilities. And since our camera technology is based on our senses, it has to be limited.

Now if you were to do any space travel in this Galaxy wouldn't you try to utilize those frequencies of the Galaxy? What I am seeing over and over is the spiral and it's effect on the matter surrounding it. To see a UFO emerge from one of these wormholes without any perfectly spiraling debris takes the rocket out of the equation. :sweatdrop:

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I have to ask here, if you take 2 transformers , place them opposite to each other then they work well, cancelling out bad magnestism. Now wouldnt we need the same in the solar system to keep things balanced and in alighnment?

Not trying to start an argument , just asking a question.

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Exactly Ammit! You have to match it up somehow. Good to see ya once again. :thumb_yello:

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Thankyou Lionhawk, glad I have something correct this month, its been a bad one....

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FYI
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• Camelot Radio: My (Kerry's) show starts tonight on The Micro Effect at 7 pm - 9 pm PST. You can listen by clicking on the box to the right of the State of the Planet front page blog. My first guest will be David Wilcock and we will be discussing, among other things the Spiral Blue Light in the sky (vortex opening?) over Norway.


I would have to stand with Brooke on this one....are we not to dream in the new paradigm? Are not thoughts things? Don't we create our reality? Lets dream a little and try to see something new...something different. Lets stop with our right brain thinking...logic...what is "known" and explore a little something more... Freedom2say...Freedom2think...Freedom2B....Freedom 4all....Freedom of choice. I choose portal. Namaste

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Thanks for the heads up Freedom :thumb_yello:

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Here is a nice quote that I found:

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Surial....so good to see you here! I believe you and I had this discussion yesterday...haha
and no matter what they say...I am sticking to Portal :thumb_yello: Weather prompted by Cern, Project Blue Beam...it's a portal in my mind

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Thank you for the videos Initiate. After watching them, especially the one from Russia, the hypothesis about a rocket is probable. The spiral could be from a device propelling high energy making it spin like an upward spiral.

The fact that it happens at different place opens up the possibility of a program of some sort. It also happened in inhabited area. Pointing to non-governmental or even non-human activities.

The official Russian explication is less probable, how would three random rocket incident produce the same strange effect?

The theory of portal is intriguing. But my insight tells me it is not the case. It's very intriguing indeed.

I watched a video of a successful Bulava rocket launch. And it is very much different than what we have witness in these three videos. Really, the russian version of the fact is really hard to believe. But, it might be true too :shocked:

Namaste, Steven

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Yes this is true in my mind too and I have thought about it.
So ok it is a spiral portal.
But it was created by a missile.:tongue2::tongue2:

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Suriel... Boy I sure could have used your help on these some 14 pages as well, Because I think you and I are thinking the same thing maybe?
Glad your back!

you had some Pyramid information that seemed pertinent. But I don't know where you got it from.

:wink2:

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Hello Brook. It is good to see you here. Let us put rockets, portals, ufos, project blue beam aside. Let us step back and think a moment. This Norway Spiral has brought a massive consciousness to the next level. I have been looking at the amount of traffic on google, blogs, forums all over. This is the first time that I have seen something like this happen on a global consciousness level.

This topic will change history as we know it. It is a sign of events to come. The universe has a natural order. We are observing a transition of an older age moving into a new age. I hope and pray that all of you will come together and agree that we are a family. The spiral movement begins. May we all spiral to a loving positive productive age of responsibility and maturity.

It is crucial at this time that we begin our journey to the great beyond. It is a vast galaxy out there. We will one day have our own space craft in the stars using the stargates to visit our other families on other planets.

We have the technology to be a part of something greater. To live in fear and not have self empowerment is a state of being that will not help us evolve as a race.

As you change, we change. And your motives become our motives. As the frequency of this planet rises, manifestation increases. Take control and harness this energy to create new wonders, creations, art, music, poetry, and expression to find a common place. This common place is that we are all connected.

We may not all agree, but we are all made of the same cosmic dust.
As the dust spirals in many differents shapes of information, it is only a reflection of the original source - center - of the vortex -

We started as one point in singularity spreading outward exploring, discovering, inventing, and reacting. As we spiral together, we realize that the journey is only one aspect of this multi-verse of possibilities.

You are the pilot - do not fly off course - and if you do - remember you can always come back home.

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Is this related, something else or a hoax?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrXpWa8pIMU

Seems to be a pyramid hovering over the Russians capital.

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Thank you Brook. I will always be with you and everyone here in spirit.

Love and Peace.

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our first sky circles ? first the crops and now the skys. or our minds. reminds me of what clif high was saying. a few months ago. one can get caught up in it all. I stay hopeful... wish it to be... but growing skeptical. :tears:

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Dagon...Hey Buddy!!!...good to have you here!!

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cheers, never left. just havent had much to say lately. supose most of us lurked when the site went paid.

I am resonating with surial on this. its got a lot of people looking up.

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After standing back and then taking a second gander, the perfection of this phenomenon with the spiraling effects can not be from a rocket that went bad. Not with a event horizon field at 3 miles across. You're better off saying it was done with Photo Shop. Plus a 2 to 3 minute dispersal that held it's integrity together. Not rockets. Maybe to many people over there eating hot pockets. I got my rubberized snow boots on so bring it on. Plus my rain suit. So I'm ready! :mfr_lol:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIg5eczY5Ms

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