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1love 12-13-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Sorry Bill, I didn't mean to endorse the use of drugs, rather the significance of the ET presense that was experienced by the volunteers, which is nonetheless still rather fascinating. It furthers the questions about where we actually go when we are in are deep sleep and supports the sciences of astral projection, remote viewing, and deep meditation and other capabilities the mind has to offer without the use of drugs. In addition, it is something already produced in the brain but that is besides the fact. Also, it has been used by shamans for thousands of years (not to discredit your view Bill or endorse drug use) just stating medicinal uses of similar concoctions. I am also aware that healing is possible without the uses of material substances but unfortunately the majority of the population aren't aware of these techniques which are described in the Ra Material as well as available by contemporary healers. Most people are just misinformed on the subject of healing and think they're quackos thanks to the discreditating affects in the mainstream media. Again, I'm not endorsing drugs, I just think the ET presense is of great significance here.

Anyways, someone mentioned the work of George Kavassilas and recommended doing an interview with him.. I too have come across his work and did find it to be rather intriguing. He speaks as if he is a member of the 'Galactic Council' himself. Not to say that something like this does not exist, of which is fascinating and could be suspiscious at the same time. The lectures he has done shows he displays a depth of knowledge in the sciences and blueprints of the universe . How valid they are is up for debate but still very interesting. Many of his lectures describing these sciences with the support of geometry and other mathematics has striking similarities to the sciences of antiquity maybe even the schools of pythagoras. Lastly, in one of his lectures he states to the effect of and I don't directly quote but ' we have cleaned up planets many times and are exremely well versed in the methods needed' and also says to the effect of they're waiting for the call so to speak .. I don't know if I agree with this philosophy as it somewhat denies human responsibility but I suppose it is somewhat to the affect of what Collier may deem as mentoring. Hey as long as it is in a positive light then I guess we can't let pride get in the way of help because it is obvious we have a long way to go.

Thanks again Bill, I will definately check out Master Game and sorry for appearing to advocate the use of drugs. I hope I'm not being egotistical ,again ,just another proof of ET presense!

bosr 12-13-2009 09:24 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
FREE ENERGY

IF free energy devices really exist (I hear they may be easily built) AND running them is so dangerous via the ptb...

Why haven't the construction plans been released to the public domain? I would think that having the ptb pressure me after developing such a technology I would be ****** to the Extreme. Under such circumstances there is NO THREAT that would be greater than the karma inflicted from buckling under, depriving humanity of natural progress!

Many, many humans have suffered and died for much less!

Tyler Macmillan 12-13-2009 10:41 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Bill/Kerry- I finished the Dane Tops interview with a very positive resolve. Similar to the LRH story, I'm pretty sure many of us are committed to keeping Camelot alive and growing, and we care about your wellbeing. I have a question, and I hope to approach it carefully. That is to say, I do not expect a detailed response, for what may be obvious reasons:

Have you considered having a plan or protocol in place to keep the Camelot idea/work alive in the event that both of you are compromised by a third party like LRH was? I know this is strongly implied in the pledge, but I'm talking about something more concrete, like an emergency succession plan.

caspyan 12-13-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
I want to ask about ET disclosure. How will it happen and how will it change the World?
-->Bearing in mind that some counrties have already disclosed the existence of UFOs, but I'm talking about America & the Europe Union etc. Do you think there will be a "V" scenario where ships will simultaneously appear over cities? Do you think they will come when a Nuclear war starts in order to save us? I personally think the ETs will come as ascended Masters and only ones who look human will appear - do you agree?
-->Then what will happen next - will a new Golden age start or will we descend into chaos? (OK this is a big question, but I just want your main thoughts on it now).
Thanks.

Cyaneyed 12-14-2009 12:36 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi Bill,

Thank you (and Kerry too, if she gets a chance to read this) for all your hard work. You're developing a fantastic repository of knowledge that we'd probably have little-to-no access to without your efforts (as an aside-I was living in Tintagel around the time that PC was conceived-I likely walked past you on multiple occasions without knowing how important you'd become in my [and others] lives!).

I wondered if you'd share your opinions on Indigos, their origins, whether you've met any (aside from Boruska of course), and whether someone could be an indigo without realising? Also if you would recommend any names or sources that you trust for more information on indigos, that would be fantastic.

I have strong reason to be interested in this, and emailed you in 08 and last week with why. I know how busy you are though so I wanted to ask for information here in a far more abbreviated-and less personal- medium.

Bonus question-what's your opinion of Michael Tsarion's work, and would you be interested in interviewing him?

Thank you sir.

Regards,

- Cyaneyed

Hiram 12-14-2009 01:36 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hello Bill, wonderful work you and Kerry have done...and more importantly continue to do. I must admit I was utterly fascinated by the interview with James from Wingmakers. It inspired me to read his information and I was stunned.

Some of it is so radical, but its also beautiful. You speak about the danger of talking about the Annunaki....boy James sure opened the floodgates with all the Anu stuff and the INCUNABULA, but for some reason I feel he is safe from them.

Considering how few interviews James has ever done...this is a real honor for PC that he spoke with you. Why do you think he did so?? Was the door left open for any future correspondence from James???

100thmonkey 12-14-2009 01:51 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougall (Post 198947)
... My question is this, Do you think that Project Camelot has many fans like myself who do not believe in Humans on Mars etc however can't get enough of the jazz? Something about it is very compelling.
Keep up the good work!

Hey Dougall, maybe. Even B&K have stated they don't necessarily agree with 100% of their witnesses perspectives.
In my opinion, blind belief is not really necessary, nor is being asked.
As long as we are all at least Aware of the possibilities out there, the maneuverings behind the scenes, etc. you won't be taken by surprise, or easily manipulated, when something turns out to be true...

9ofclubs 12-14-2009 01:55 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Dear Bill,

PC is amazing and thank you so much for the work that you do!

No one is more hopelessly enslaved than those you falsely believe they are free
Goethe said this first I believe.

My question is what you think about what William Cooper said about, indirectly, Jordan Maxwell? He seemed to be under the impression that he was part of the "mystery school" people.

TheGuy 12-14-2009 02:29 AM

Questions for Bill Ryan and/or Kerry Cassidy.
 
I have several questions, some are mundane, some are practical, and others you may not be able to answer. If you can't respond publicly, please PM if you can share something privately.

1. What is the name of the fish whose oil(mentioned in one of your recent interviews) can be used to decalcify the pineal gland?

1.1 Are you aware of other methods for decalcifying the pineal, or otherwise unlocking "psychic" abilities using similar methods, or the parts of the body necessary for producing such abilities?

2. You have spoken to whistleblowers who know a lot about certain secrets, one of these is "remote viewing", it's pretty obvious to anyone who's seriously researched this that the declassified material is severely watered down. If you know anything about it, can you comment about non-watered down versions of what was/is developed during/after declassification? Specifically, methods to practice RV realistically/accurately, as opposed to watered down paper methods. (Your recent interview with the Scientologist mentions what I consider real "RV" is, actually leaving the body or bi-locating to "view" something)

2.1 Can you recommend any books, authors, people, authorities, or otherwise point people in the right direction to developing these abilities? (For example, REAL Scientologists that can clear, methods to unlock abilities, tech ppl can make themselves, etc.)

2.2 Have you tried to interview James Casbolt, who seems to have been trained in a method of Telepathy to specifically communicate with a certain species of "ET", and who mentions the method being based around altering his ability to "vibrate" (or something like that)at a certain frequency mentally? (This is similar to "RV" and may be useful)

2.2a If you do interview him, can you ask him to explain this training in useful terms for "lay persons" so the general populace can train themselves in this ability?

2.3 Are you aware of any technology that enhances or provides this ability(RV)? You mention looking glass and RV in some interviews or it's mentioned by others, but it's never really discussed in depth. If you are aware of it, can you comment on it? I realize it can be very time consuming to explain things over and over to different ppl, so that's why I'm asking as many questions all related to one topic as possible in one place, for reference.

2.3a Can you provide more details that are practically applicable to your audience? (Actual tech, practices, techniques, etc. that ppl can do)

As an aside to this line of questions, I'd like to say that I appreciate the amount of information currently being shared to the world from whistleblowers and etc., but I would also(as I'm sure others would as well) appreciate applicable/practical techniques, schematics for devices, ideas, practices, etc. that can be used to turn things around. I don't feel that knowing truth is going to magically turn things around, things need to be done, changed, altered, choices need to be made, lifestyle changes, etc. Unlocking a natural ability like "RV" would be a very good first step to freeing humanity. If you can access all information, no truth can be hidden from anyone, and an honest world can start to form. I know it's asking a lot of these whistleblowers, but it's not only necessary to share truth of things like what's secretly going on, but to also share WHY and HOW when/if possible. I wholeheartedly disagree with doom and gloom and assumptions based on limited perceptions of reality that assume there's nothing we can do.

2.4 Many mind controlled ppl have come forward, they almost all mention psychic training, and they almost all seem to be reluctant to accept that parts of them have been unlocked, at least from what I see of their public presentations. I don't agree that the methods used to unlock these abilities are right, but I do appreciate the fact that they have been given something others never even dream about, abilities beyond normal slavebot status. Wouldn't it be beneficial not only for them, but everyone else, if they accept those abilities and try to learn more about them and share how to develop or use them or in some other way make use of the negative experiences to in some way benefit humanity? I realize this question is kind of on the line, but I also realize this line is really avoided, and it needs addressed. We've all had negative experiences in our life, maybe not all of us were subjected to extreme circumstances like some of the mind controlled, but those negative experiences can teach us about our limits or lack thereof. It makes me die a little inside, every time I see an Ex-(insert something here, satanist, vampire, mind control victim, etc.) abandon everything related to the negative experience as if it's bad just cause some evil ppl used it for evil purposes, and they give it all up and just turn back to a "normal" mundane life as a "Christian"(yet another form of slavery these days, a religious model used often to control minds and limit abilities) or something.

2.4a Have the mind controlled considered the idea of teaching others how to not be mind controlled, and/or to control their own minds to do "superhuman" things?

2.4b Negative/evil training cannot be the only way to empower a human, as evidenced by your recent Scientology interview, King Fu Masters, Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars Series of Books, etc. Can any of your whistleblowers comment on methods that don't involve trauma based mind control to unlock abilities or technology that's non-invasive, or etc.?

2.4c In your opinion, after interviewing all of these ppl and doing all this research, is being a human with fully developed expression and abilities merely as simple as letting go of all the negative things that stop us from that, or do we actually need to do something for our inherent abilities to manifest?

2.4c.1 As an example, in the Anastasia books, she was raised in what could be considered optimal conditions. (In nature, no limits, no negative influences from city, chemicals, etc.) Now, obviously not all of us are born into, or raised in optimal conditions, so the question is, would one raised in less than optimal conditions revert back to "pristine" state if X were accomplished? X could be letting go of all negative aspects of life(not eating junk food, living in city, etc), or it could be practicing some spiritual practice, or it could be anything really.

2.5 You have a lot of experience interviewing different types of ppl, have you noticed certain patterns or cycles in your careers as interviewers related to mind control that you can comment on? (Either trauma based, or more mundane, like spiritual/religious, etc.)

2.6 Do Kerry or yourself(Bill) work on developing abilities like "RV", and if so, what progress or usefulness have you had with it or how has it helped your quest to share truth with the world?

And, my final q, for now..

3. Taking everything you've been exposed to into consideration, what do you think(opinion, logical, or intuition) honestly, the next step for humanity is really supposed to be? (Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events, are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it, are we supposed to transition to another state of being(maybe not physical), etc.)

Thank you for taking the time to answer questions. The more that get answered, usually the more appear. You already take a lot of time doing interviews and etc., so thank you for taking extra time to answer questions, it's greatly appreciated.

TempestGarden 12-14-2009 02:35 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198254)
This is what we were told. Look at the old 1982 Schwarzenegger movie (a terrible movie!) Conan the Barbarian. At about the 92 minute mark the character played by James Earl Jones starts to morph into a huge snake. The reference here is NOT to the snake, but to the extended jaw. Apparently their jaw is just a little MORE extended than that.

Important notes: this is just about the shape of the face. NOT the skin color and NOT the snake.

The're apparently about 8 feet tall - but often look taller (as anyone would if you were 6 feet tall, or less). They are very strong. I duscuss this at length in the Freedom Central interview. They have many ancient ritual customs and (in Henry Deacon's words) "like to dress up".

Henry never saw their actual faces, which they keep hidden for ceremonial (or possibly other) reasons. They often wear cloaks, headdresses, etc. The Divine Right of Kings, and all the ceremony and ritual that associated with Royal Families everywhere, seems to be directly derived from Anunnaki ancient cultural ceremony and custom.

Bill,

Thanks a lot for addressing my question. That is good information. I went back and looked at the part in Conan the Barbarian that you referenced and I noticed the part about the jaw that you were talking about. Fascinating stuff, indeed.

After watching this part of the film, it got me thinking... do you have any info as to whether or not their eyes look like James Earl Jones' eyes just before he morphed into a snake? If you recall, they were very reptilian looking with a vertical slit for a pupil. They actually looked pretty cool.

Thanks again for all your work. :original:

Anchor 12-14-2009 02:47 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 198887)
I would like to comment further on this (said by myself above).



This would give you the ability to create a new thread if you perceive that 1). The same question keeps coming up 2). You know of information that is going to become popular (ie: you're going to get questions about it, and you "know" it) 3). Information that you specifically "want" questions for 4). Specific information that you "want" more feedback from.

It would allow you to easily dissect and organize the information / questions / feedback into areas that you can visit at both your leisure and by priority of importance. Moderators would also be able to move questions from thread to thread, if they perceive that they are in the wrong place. This further allows you to concentrate on one thing at a time, instead of everything at once.

This is a pretty good idea and closely matches some of the ideas expressed within the moderator team.

However there is another approach - Bill (or anyone else for that matter) could actually use the forum like, well, a forum and have more than one thread.

Instead of concentrating it all in one giant thread (which will ultimately fail as it gets more and more unwieldy ) it may be a better idea to branch out into threads.

A..

Aztar 12-14-2009 02:53 AM

Re: Questions for Bill Ryan and/or Kerry Cassidy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuy (Post 199181)

1. What is the name of the fish whose oil(mentioned in one of your recent interviews) can be used to decalcify the pineal gland?

Welcome to Avalon "TheGuy"

Perhaps this thread may help you on this issue. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16485

Pete Peterson mentioned "Rat fish Oil" lots of research about this and "Skate fish Oil" or Vitamin K2 in that PA link.

*fades out*

eleni 12-14-2009 03:05 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Answer to one of the questions posed above- Pine Nut oil has been said to decalcify the pineal gland......

You can purchase it from here:
http://www.siberiantigernaturals.com...pinenutoil.htm

Also magnascent iodine:
http://www.magnascent.com/

I've used X factor butter oil and Fermented CLO and Skate for years now and have honestly never heard of either being used to decalcify the pineal gland.

That was new information. I'd like to see more info on those 2 products specifically regarding that issue.

Weston Price did research on X factor butter oil and CLO- more information can be found here:
http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...itamin-k2.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...-oil-menu.html

FIIISH 12-14-2009 05:03 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
This is very interesting.

I recently had a dream where I had a medical workup done in an
extremely modern facility.

I specific remember a female tech/dr telling me that I was deficient in
vitamin K.

I Googled it the next day, and nothing jumped out at me. I checked
my multi-supplement, and it contains Vitamin K so I forgot about it.

Then I see this:
Quote:

"Skate fish Oil" or Vitamin K2
Perhaps my frequent requests to be brought aboard the
"Andromedan Car Wash" were finally heard.

Very interesting indeed. :shocked:

tr4nce4life 12-14-2009 05:15 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi Bill

Thanks for opening Avalon up for the masses, I think it's a blessing in disguise. It can only help PC.

I was wondering if you caught an original movie on SyFy channel this year called Terminators? It sounds like what you might be referring to when you talk about sinister future possibilities from insiders, worth killing over if told/repeated. And if the episode from The Lone Gunman was a hint (laugh in our faces, "it's not like we didn't tell you...") to 911, then this is one scary sob. Terminators let loose on the public! Notice how cheesy the movie is, only making it easier for the average person to write it off. What are your thoughts on this?
http://www.theasylum.cc/product.php?id=154

Additionally, what do you make of Peter Moon (of The Montauk Project), specifically his newer work called Transyvanian Sunrise? It's a great 'read' by the way. It goes into so many aspects that PC covers and might be worth a shot to check out. An ancient underground 'alien' facility in Romainia containing advanced holographic records of Earth and man, that connects to Tibet, Egypt, and Inner Earth. An additional satellite outpost in Iraq. Freemasonry, American Intelligence, and the Pentagon. Spirituality, advanced psy-abilities, and manipulations. http://www.skybooksusa.com/books/pmoon.htm

Regards

Quantum 12-14-2009 07:29 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198828)
Free Energy (as far as a functioning device is concerned) is still dangerous. Talking about it is one thing - having a device is another. Wade Frazier confirmed to us that the PTB have some way of remotely detecting free energy devices when they're operating (wherever they are), enabling them to close in on the person immediately.

It's a little like the issue of 'proving' what we say. As I've said and written elsewhere (in the Freedom Central interview, most recently) one of the things that keeps us safe is that we don't try to prove anything won the Camelot site. We don't have definitive proof anyway (in the form of photos, documents or artifacts) - but if we did, we'd soon be in trouble.

So would Project Camelot feel it's too dangerous to be involved with disclosing advanced Free Energy hardware?

I'd think many people are tired of the talking heads in the FE community and ready for something of substance. If given the opportunity, would Project Camelot not help in someway to facilitate the release of practical FE hardware to the public?

It's unfortunate so many look to the gatekeepers for the solutions that will never manifest. Indeed, it is frustrating to see so many with limited paradigms regarding this subject.

Peace.

fr66ajc 12-14-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum (Post 199301)
So would Project Camelot feel it's too dangerous to be involved with disclosing advanced Free Energy hardware?

I'd think many people are tired of the talking heads in the FE community and ready for something of substance. If given the opportunity, would Project Camelot not help in someway to facilitate the release of practical FE hardware to the public?

It's unfortunate so many look to the gatekeepers for the solutions that will never manifest. Indeed, it is frustrating to see so many with limited paradigms regarding this subject.

Peace.

Going by Bill's announcement on the front page of PC, it looks like they are at least going to try and do something. :thumb_yello:

One idea, if they pull it off, would be to have a demo or two along with the testimony.

I understand the reticence regarding trying to release the devices if the suppression stories are true. Too many people have died trying. I am impressed with both Bill and Kerry's drive and courage. If they don't release something it is for VERY good reasons.

100thmonkey 12-14-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
From Camelot home page:
Quote:

Todd, Kerry and I are discussing the idea of a major Advanced Energy Conference - a physical one - in the Washington area for the second half of next year: a kind of Advanced Energy counterpart of the May 2001 Disclosure Project Press Conference, in which Free Energy pioneers would assemble on stage to make a combined statement to the press, media and attendees about the urgent importance of accepting the reality of Advanced Energy systems to help this planet at a time when they are absolutely most needed. This is a big, bold idea and it might just work. All feedback, ideas and contributions are welcome.
After reading this I do have this contribution:
Please do it!

Kinsuemei2 12-14-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Ok Bill thank you for answering the Hat question, I have another I did post but seemed to get lost in translation.

I was wondering what your theories if any are about a MKUltra Type program run by the ETS? I am not talking about Serpo, but a kind of Human genetic crossbreeding enhancement?

Seashore 12-14-2009 01:52 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 197623)
I have looked further through my notes concerning Jane Burgermeister.

Dr Deagle's Nutrimedical Report on September 18, 2009, the 2nd Hour, covered this subject. The guests were Alex Studer, who is on Dr Deagle's team as a blogger and a person who files petitions for injunction; JoAnne Cremer, who was the person who spearheaded a Facebook group in support of Jane; and Dr Ott.

The important things that were said are:
  1. The legal team Jane claimed to have turned out to be one person who is not an attorney.
  2. The person accepted $6000 from Elizabeth Book for whatever it was he filed.
  3. On July 24, Jane put out a call advocating disruption and the destruction of property related to NLE 09.
  4. Jane issued 5 or 6 emails to Joanne regarding the use of "gorilla warfare."
  5. Dr Ott researched this and noted that "How to Instill Gorilla Warfare" was written in the 80's and given to the Contra rebels; it was written by Stubblebine, who is one of Jane's supporters.
  6. Joanne was asked to solicit money from Facebook group members, which had become international and numbered 7,000 people.
  7. After Joanne realized she had to terminate her support for Jane and announced this, Jane accused her of association with mass murderers, pedophiles, satanists, etc.

This information appears between 5:40 - 35:40. Again, the correct archive is September 18, 2009, 2nd Hour:

http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=nutrimedical

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 198267)
In my opinion Sorcha Faal is never worth reading, except to understand what the enemy is up to.

The point of my lengthy post showing my research is to show that there is reason to believe that Jane is in league with, knowingly or unknowingly, Zionist/New World Order interests.

In my humble opinion, Dr Ott should be directly consulted about this by Camelot.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198345)

Of course not. ["Unknowingly" can't be defended, however. You or I might unknowingly be used by anyone at all out there.]

The issue is her integrity.


Bill,

If Jane Burgermeister is the victim of specific mind control techniques along the lines of MKULTRA projects, her integrity would not be a factor, correct?

Spregovori 12-14-2009 05:08 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Bill are you perhaps familiar with the so called Revelations of an Insider? I do not know if this was ever discussed before and the possible conclusions of that discussion.

I know nothing about the integrity of the document.

I got a pdf today, file which is based on the posts on some forum in year 2005. Someone presented himself as an insider, claiming to be the member of the actual ruling families (not known to anyone) that are here to do their job based on the Divine Law...according to the benevolent beings that "rule" this realm and also other realms.

The insider for example claims that all known public figures including those such as current and past royalty and Rothschild family, religion prophets...etc....are all peasants that just do their role...and that we humans are here on a prison planet making the choice to utilize what was given to us as we wish....etc Deciding our own fate...

I am asking you this since the given answers are somewhat "complex" and exceed common basement based hoaxers...and alike.

EDIT:

I was just notified you have already talked about this. I withdraw the qustion.

Daft Ada 12-14-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hey Bill they are having a go mate, what say you to this
http://nwocollapse.freehostia.com/article.php?ID=373

Jonah 12-14-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Bill,

Has there ever been a romantic connection between you and Kerry?
(forgive the intrusion, just thought I'd ask)

thanks again, jonah

illuminate 12-14-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hello Bill... just want to say THANK U for doing this thread and THANK U for reviving this forum!

Blessings to U and Kerry!

powerviolence 12-14-2009 06:09 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonah (Post 199539)
Bill,

Has there ever been a romantic connection between you and Kerry?
(forgive the intrusion, just thought I'd ask)

thanks again, jonah

Me and my gf watch camelot together and for the longest time she swore that bill and kerry were a couple, but I've read somewhere that Bill has another GF so I knew it wasn't true, not to intrude in such a personal subject, but bill and kerry's romance or non-romance is just one of the quirky things about camelot that people like.

A question, Bill, you say that having any concrete proof of anything would be dangerous for you guys, but are you sure it has to be that way? I mean, there is just no way of ever getting some proof to us(the public), whether it be photos, devices, or whatever.. there just isn't a way to show it without somebody getting killed? maybe show it anonymously or something? I dunno, but it really shouldn't be this way, because concrete proof of anything would possibly propel your work to a much more serious status of importance that would let the 'sheeple' so to speak try to get into Camelot. We all believe and trust you guys, but how long can blind faith last..

Bill Ryan 12-14-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi, All:

Been very busy - please excuse more brief replies. But I'll try to get to them all.

Some good questions here! (I'm also very aware of how much I cannot answer because I just don't know :) )

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle02 (Post 198702)
Question for Bill
It is concerning a need for a referral.
The person is a friend who has abilities and needs someone to counsel concerning the ability to travel and communicate during REM sleep.

Not sure what to suggest... there MAY be a thread on this forum that could help. (Anyone?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by halebox (Post 198729)
Annunaki?

Nope :)

It's NOT the snake.

Please see what I wrote yesterday: it's the jawline - the last frame of James Earl Jones BEFORE he morphs (and the chin a bit more extended than even that, so I was told). Also NOT the skin color. Just the chin and general facial shape.

I do NOT know whether they are shapeshifters. I have a provisional opinion that some of them may be, but I'm still unclear about this. It's a hugely important issue to understand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barron (Post 198732)
i was interested also to know why you lumped the Ashtar Command into the same pile of manure as Nesara?

Never seen or heard any credible evidence that the Ashtar Command is real. The highly strange 'Vrillon' event cited by Astralwalker (interrupted BBC broadcast, 16 November 1977)

http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread275367/pg1

seems very likely to me to be a hoax (or a Tavistock experiment, maybe more probable).

ET visitors (in my opinion) just would not use that syntax or terminology. It's exactly the style of communication that persists in many channeled messages to this day. And (I'm afraid) as best as I'm able to see, many reported channeled messages are simply the manifestations of experimental high technology.

SOME are real, of course. But the problem, as always, is sorting out what is real from what is not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey (Post 198759)
I'd love to see you guys interview Charles Hall (if he's still around?)

Secondly, You don't have a really good summary of Henry Deacon's information in one place.

Third, I liked the little clip you made of Stephen Basset at the Barcelona conference. I realised that such little snippets of short summarised info could be a good way to get

1) We'd love to talk to Charles Hall (and Kerry has talked with him privately before). His wife functions as a bit of a gatekeeper and at the moment he's not accessible. We do think his information is important and credible.

2) We're not in touch with Henry at the moment and will not do any more without his consent or agreement... but a Henry Deacon digest might be a good idea :)

3) Short summary videos: excellent idea, and we've been talking about this. Easily accessible summaries are urgently needed of all our information. But this would be a LOT of work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkes (Post 198774)
I would really really like to know why you an kerry have not interviewed Stewart Swerdlow?

We're looking forward to catching up with Stewart (for the first time) at the MKUltra Conference in Boston in February.

http://mkultraconference.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real (Post 198788)
I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

I've never been really interested in crop circles. This is just a personal quirk. I HAVE had a weird experience with one... some of them are absolutely, definitely real. But quite a few are not. John and Mark at http://circlemakers.org (whom I've met) make some of these formations themselves (in a well-organized group), announce publicly that they do, and are amazed that no-one believes them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionhawk (Post 198790)
Question #1
Could you reveal to us any inside information you may have in regards to where all the kids are going above and beyond what Alex Collier has stated in public?

Question #2
Based on what intelligence that you have gathered, do you foresee a possible scenario where humanity might get caught in the middle of an invasion by the Dows and also a battle between them and the Draconians?

Question #3
What is the real truth as to why the Light Warrior forum is being created?

Question #4
What kind of security issues do you deal with and how can we assist you and Kerry in those regards? Also since I signed up on this forum, I have to question if our IP addresses are safe since I have had numerous attacks including scaler waves?

1) Disappearing children: we can all speculate. Besides the more unsavory answers (which I'm afraid are very probably true) some of them MIGHT be going to underground bases, and others off-planet. This has to be possible.

The most extraordinary notion came from Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann who hinted quite heavily to us that some of the children were being taken to a future Earth (about 6,000 years in the future, he said) which was 'barren'. This he said, was the only one of FOUR major alternative timelines which did not have a good ending.

We believe he was serious and we have not heard this kind of information from anyone else. Our thoughts were that it's so crazy that it might be true.

2) No information - sorry.

3) Strange question! Project Light Warrior is an initiative created by Kerry (I've mentioned it in an earlier reply to a question about it) and she asked for the forum to be created. I've not visited it and don't know if it's active. The project is in the draft stages at the moment - just ideas.

4) I'm not involved at all in the mechanics of running the forum, so I'm not in a position to assess security concerns - I really have no information at all.

What I WOULD say is that all forums are wonderful opportunities for the PTB to collect personal information, profile personalities, track communication patterns, etc. Nothing is secure at that level and there's no public sector protection against it. We all have to realize this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 198803)
The reason I ask you Bill is that in your interview of Dane (the ex-scientologist) there was a brief mention of the Galactic Patrol. Are they the same group or a different group...

Different Group.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odiwan (Post 198821)
I was wondering if you had any plans to interview Dolores Cannon? I have recently come across her work and find it very informative.

I was also wondering if PC had any plans to visit Australia again? I would love to see you guys in person.

And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction - [also from Kriya]

1) Dolores Cannon - Kerry would very much like to. I enjoyed Dolores' 22 October interview on C2C, and 100% agree with her perception of a lot of new or fairly new arrivals on this planet as 'volunteers'. I read 'Jesus and the Essenes' - fascinating book - and her information about Nostradamus is also intriguing and plausible.

2) I loved Australia and would love to visit again. The issue is cost/logistics. We have some very good friends there - and I felt TOTALLY at home. I have one close friend who is seriously urging me to relocate there. I have always been tempted.

3) My abduction account is also in our interview with Arjan Bos:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jwOsc3h3Vfk

More later - best wishes to all - Cheers, B

Awelion 12-14-2009 08:53 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Seek knowledge.

Seeking knowledge you will receive everlasting love.

Principles:
Love
Joy
Peace
Faith

Actions:
Humility
Kindness
Mildness
Goodness

Ask why?

Infinite creator is One.

You are a representation or likeness of One.

One communicates via a conscious mind.
Act according to your conscience.
Prayer opens consciousness directly.
Pray to the One infinite creator for direction and wisdom.

:wink2:

eleni 12-14-2009 09:06 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
I have a question.

Leo Zagami claims we have been duped by the UFO movement and ET's are really demonic entities.

What is your take on this?

Mine is that there exists both ET's and interdimensional good and bad guys and Leo has been fed what they want him to believe to keep the *picture view* confined.

Surial 12-14-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hello Bill,

It has been a while since we last communicated. The last time we communicated was when I was a Mod for Avalon. I hope things are going well for you. I have always respected you and your work. I look forward to seeing more positive productive interviews with you and Kerry.

With so much going on we could chat about unlimited possible events and paranormal activity. For example, I am very aware that I am a Starseed born on a gateway day. Much of the information I receive comes from my higher self in a higher dimensional reality. But let us beam down to Earth and get to some good topic discussions.

I am always doing research on Earth history and our origins. I have been dabbling in the Anna Hayes material. I find Anna Hayes very interesting and full of knowledge and wisdom. If you haven't already, I recommend you watch her videos on Youtube.

Have you ever considered doing an interview with Anna Hayes? If you ever did, that would be an astonishing interview. But be warned that lady is packed full of information. She talks kind of fast. And maybe you should consider playing a leading role in the interview process. That would be an interesting twist.

Are you aware of an ET force coming in to clean up our mess and rid the planet of tyranny? If so, you can PM me. We don't want to scare the folks here. Or you can just say, yes or no. lol

There is much activity going on with the vortexes appearing along with many reports of ufos. Are many of these sightings coming from Earth bound Humans? What is your opinion?

Have you seen the video of the Brazilian man reporting that the Pleiadeans landed and were testing for dimensional frequency readings to make a golden path appear to a portal? This is a rare video... hold on...

It is an older video but I vibe with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHcChdKWh-M

My connection with the Pleiadeans are quite strong. So if you have any information regarding them please share.

This is good for now. Like I said I could go on forever. I hope you and Kery have a good holiday Season.

Peace,
Kevin (Suriel, Surial)

eleni 12-14-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Surial- scroll up to earlier post from Bill- Bill said Kerry is in touch with Anna and has an interview scheduled so that's great news for all of us Ashayana/Anna Hayes work fans!

Surial 12-14-2009 10:13 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Thanks eleni. I look forward to that interview. Bill maybe you should ask about the stellar activation event and the stargate at the center of Earth. I am also interested in the Wingmakers material. The time capsule is quite interesting.
So it looks like we are all on the same path afterall.

sjkted 12-14-2009 10:55 PM

2012 / Endgame
 
Hi Bill,

Lately, I've been thinking more and more about the ascension issue. It seems like at the beginning PA/PC was inclined twoards the Bill Green "groundcrew" concept of self-organized communities that ban together, share resources, technology and knowledge and create some type of a workable sustainable lifestyle, as there won't be a fiancial system that anyone can depend on.

On PA (as well as some of the other 2012-related forums I watch), some people are of the opinion we will just ascend into 4D/5D space, and thus won't have to worry too much about practical things like food and shelter. As a skeptic, it's unfortunate that most of this info is channeled/intuitive as it is not completely possible to authenticate the source.

Over the last few years, I've been split between these two views. I've known for a while that the world economy was about to implode and that it won't be possible to repair. One thing I haven't been able to shake is the intuition that there will be some type of ascension, although it's hard for me to conceptualize whether it would be as if humanity as a whole ascends in that we learn to work together without violence, develop free energy, and remove the Illuminati from power and replace them with a system of equality. The alternate scenario is some type of individual ascension where some of us make it to a new earth, others stay behind, and the majority of people choose to incarnate elsewhere.

This latter scenario sticks in my mind as I've observed that there seem to be a large variance in the personal evolution of people on this planet. It seems there are a minority of people who are aware and have open minds, are spiritually aware and developed, and are doing what they can to manifest a better world. And then, there seems to be a majority who don't get it, don't want to hear it, and are completely attached to the status quo that is being fractured day by day.

I'm curious to hear your personal views on the endgame. Do you have any insider information on or from the people promoting 2012 as personal ascension? The sources that come to mind are Drunvalo Melchizedek, the insiders for Maya prophecy, and the Cosmic Awareness Consciousness (www.cosmicawareness.org).

I appreciate all of the time you have put into PA/PC and for stopping to answer our questions.

-- sjkted

Contact-E 12-15-2009 12:29 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Dear Bill;

I really enjoy the job you and Kerry do. As many have stated (About them selves) I've e-mailed you before but have never heard back, so I am glad you opened this thread. You will have to forgive me if I ask questions that have been already ask and or are thought of as stupid.

#1. Have you guys ever thought of talking to some one on camera about the truth behind the Gander crash ?

#2. In some past interviews it was brought up that some people have what's known as throw away DNA, but that its thought that its really left over Alien DNA ? I was wondering on what your take is on the thought and idea that at least some if not all people are known to have two sets of vocal chords, and why that is ?

#3. Also I've watched the new Jesse Ventura tv show, and I believe the three of you should get together and do a interview as his tactics on the Harrp, and 9/11 show I believe meld well with yours.

THEWATCHER 12-15-2009 12:40 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198784)
1) Thanks, and we're aware of this. We don't like Ustream, and probably won't use it again. The chat function will be disabled if we do.

2) Fully agreed. I'm in regular touch with Dane Tops and a further interview is absolutely on the cards (about the techniques).

3) Fulford: I listen to him on Rense every month. He's well-meaning and has a big heart but I'm not personally convinced that all his information is reliable.

One obvious example is his recent visit by Leo Zagami, representing the Black Pope. I promise you that the Black Pope would not choose Benjamin Fulford as his instrument of choice for revealing critical information to the world. (He'd not choose us, either.)

As for Zagami, he phoned Kerry a few months ago telling her that he was being tortured. No joke.



Apologies: I'd not known this. I added a note to the Camelot site, and have asked Rayelan if we can stream it from our server.



Dear Barry: on 8 July 2008, you wrote us this message:





1) Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann told us that nothing was being done in CERN that hadn't been done in US military experiments as long as 20 years ago. He assured us it was not an issue and that everything was hyped. I believed him.

2) No - will check it out. Thanks.

3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.



Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID. :)

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

I can tell one amusing story here (with a happy ending - I hope). We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower. We were traveling at the time and had a huge backlog. I only found it much later accidentally while searching for something else.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more) - and he said he wanted to talk. And we both MISSED it. We're back in touch with this man - but still haven't done an interview.

********

More later - have to go to attend to something. I'll be back within several hours if possible. Cheers, B

Hi Bill, I'm sure with all your meets with others they would tell you of the greater politics which drives whether interviews should be given by an individual or not. Yes at that time July 2008 certain events were about to play out taking me out of the scene completely. Will not detail in public here but can PM you some data. The changes re these power politics occur frequently. This year I have been available for interviews, even Miles Johnston (of Bases 2 DVDs) wishes further interviews. Politics between certain groups in UK and US often wrestle for control over an individual. This has been the case with me. Hope that clears that up or people might think the gagging is constantly in place. Might hear from you yet Bill?
Regards, Barry

petem 12-15-2009 01:52 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

Frank Samuel 12-15-2009 02:50 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

Gnosis5 12-15-2009 03:01 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel (Post 199894)
Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

I'll bet he has recalled events back further than that -- my memories go back before time, before this universe, and I know others who remember about 360 universes before this one, if time matters. Perhaps he just meant on this planet....

Frank Samuel 12-15-2009 03:18 AM

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Gnosis, Yes I have also gain ancient memories towards the very moment of the creation of my soul. Understanding who we are is the key to restoring ourselves.
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives . Going back 2,000 yrs of recollections is quite a treasure of memories.

Phtha 12-15-2009 03:22 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
I asked Bill that same question and his response was scientology methods. You might want to read the new interview PC has up with Dane Tops for more info if you haven't.
You can find Bills answer a few pages back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel (Post 199915)
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives .


Illusion 12-15-2009 03:43 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
I'm new here, but have been following Bill and Kerry for years, going all the way back to the Serp site. You both do such great work.

I recently heard your interview with Freedom Central, Bill, stating that it was all a game. This caused me to jon Avalon.

4 months ago I would have thought you were crazy saying life was a game. Now I completely understand it. I realized a month or two ago. I even said out loud. Okay, Game over. I know its a game and because I know its a game. The game is up! Nothing happened. The game continues. The synchronicities and strange happenings in my life, made me realize that it just wasn't possible, that I was living a "normal" life. I've also had Et in my life a few times. Wanted to let you know, that your not alone. Might even start a new thread to find out if anyone else is playing games lol.

From another Gamer :)


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