Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hello everyone..

My purpose of this post is to try to find a place where I can be a part of a goal oriented community within the U.S. or Canada. Currently I live in Florida.

To try and keep this short, I will explain my situation without too many extreme details. Those can be discussed later on a person to person basis as needed.

I am forty years old and have no children or family to care for at this time. I have been out of work to an extremely large degree for almost a full year now and financial survival has been at a minimum. Surviving on an average of about $400.00 per month, which is around 1/4 of the living costs in my situation. The home I live in is rented and I am quite in debt. Also it is in foreclosure status at this time. A friend owns it so he has allowed me to stay per his big heart. But it's not forever.
Regardless, I have kept my electricity and water services going by way of minimal use. I have had temporary help for food which will be ending in another month or two, I cannot recall to be honest, as time has seemingly stopped for me in some ways. The only thing I own is my truck. I have no bank accounts, no stocks, bonds, property or any other sources of possible income. I have been a builder for almost 20 years in many different fields of construction. All have been self taught to a great degree. There is nothing I cannot learn to do in my mind, as I am not limited to just construction obviously, but that doesn't matter here.

On a spiritual note I would like to tell you that I consider myself to be embedded within the consciousness of all things representing the global need for positive change. I am quite aware of what most of us knew as reality at one time in our life and I am also aware of the increasing change that is coming about in all matters. I have always considered myself to be a truly good man, who only desires the prospect of shared peace in the world which we know as home.

So my question for all of you is this and only this...:

Does anyone know of a place or a community like which is discussed in this topic, where I might be able to secure a place for myself?

The only thing I can truly offer is my honesty, good spirited ways and my many skills in trade.... even if it mean't that I would have to survive outside somehow on a piece of land, I would do so gladly.
I cannot express enough how very strongly I feel the need to become a part of something like this, rather than accepting the norm which would be aquiring a feeble job locally here, just to "hang on" a little longer.. To me that is no longer a viable option... I Must follow my inuition on this and try to procure a place within a community of like minded people.
If anyone here can spark even the smallest bit of information, so that I can take my next steps, I would be eternally and internally greatful.. Somehow I feel like I am dying inside, due to the stagnancy of my situation...

I have been long winded..
Sending you all powerful streams of peace,
Steve.....

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

SteveMick,

Welcome to Avalon.

I give you alot of credit for really putting yourself out there.

Perhaps the right person will see your post and give you a lead.

In the meantime, I suggest visualizing yourself in the type of community
that you would like to live as if it were already a reality.

You can manifest this.

Your situation sounds quite difficult. I have said a prayer for your
highest good in this situation.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Welcome SteveMick ,

TTC and NorthernSanctuary are the people you should contact right now.
NorththernSanctuary is building a community in Canada.
TTc is setting one up in Montana and Brazil.
Contact them on my behalf.
I am sure you'll find positive answers to your dreams there.

The way to contact TTC is from here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15664

And you can contact NorthernSanctuary through PM.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=1116

Peace on your journey.

Love always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

I wanted to say thank you for the information and the well wishes..
It's a wonderful feeling to come into the awareness that so many, are walking out of the shadows of solidarity...

Peace as always.....

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

You are very welcome SteveMick,
I wish only good things for you and bless your journey.
Let us know where you 'll go .

Love always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Cosmic Dancer and I took a visit to a local commercial aquaponics company. His operation was quite impressive. In a greenhouse of 40' X 200', he was growing 40,000 lettuce plants and farming rainbow trouts (17 inch size), with product shipments on a weekly basis. The system looked pretty complex with computer control of the total environment from temp, humidity, and had separate hydroponic and fish tank control to maximize production.

The owner is available for design of a custom system or consulting. We would not need such an optimized system, so could be simpler, and grow different vegetable varieties. His website is at:

http://www.cultures-aquaponiques.com/

Talented, dynamic female seeks community of like minded people in safe, radiant zone
 

Hello,

Not quite sure where to start or how to approach this matter, this is my first forum membership so I'm still getting a feel of how things work. I love the vibe and feel here, and this is the closest thing to a "like minded" group of people I've come across in many years.

I'm currently living in Los Angeles, single, never had children and what's left of my family is spread to the four winds. I've spent the last 18 months heavily researching the varied and complicated aspects of 2012 and it's hard to believe that even in 2009 when you begin talking about the presence ET life on Earth, that these things are still taboo and most people will look at you like your the alien when you bring it up. There's also a spiritual, or metaphysical aspect to the work going on here which is what makes PC special.

When I stumbled upon the work of Kerry & Bill with Project Camelot as well as David Wilcock, I it found it to be the most resonating source for information I've found since my spiritual background is in metaphysics. It's like coming home after a long, arduous journey and now that I have a handle on the bigger picture, going into 2012 is certainly not something a female like myself cares to tackle on my own.

Finding a community of people who are aware of the upcoming change and understand the importance of preparation makes most sense, and there's something to be said for the old saying "power in numbers". As a child growing up in the late 60's watching people protest against the war in the peace movement, I noticed communes were a very popular way of life for many people. Unfortunately by the late 70's when I left home as a teenager, the concept of communal living had seen it's peak and was virtually unheard of.

At this time the communal lifestyle makes mores sense than ever face the coming changes with. A group where there's a heavy emphasis on spirituality, the ascension process, sustainability, living in harmony off the grid and with a mind set of unified team work. Which is a good segue into the firearms issue...

Perusing this thread I've noted the debate on firearms, which is always a hot topic. My philosophy leans toward and envisions living in harmony without guns. It's a proven fact that spiritual protection, strength and visualization are very powerful means of force and when used properly the most effective forms of protection. Many years ago, my own spirit guides, or Higher power saved my life from a situation a gun would have been useless in. So that's a sticky issue, it seems that if you have guns on the property, simply the negative energy of having a gun in and of itself, might attract violence or a situation that needs addressed with guns? Seems like a natural security system like mastiffs and booby traps on the property, daily group visualizations & meditations for protection and light as well as other means of security, make more sense when humanity's destination is in a non-violent world and in learning our true powers of co-creation. Violence isn't always the answer, that's just a lack of faith in our own creativity....wheres MacGuyver when you need him ;)

In real world skills to offer, I bring a lot of professional management and sales experience to the table. I have excellent administrative skills and work well with people from all walks of life. I consider myself a writer and also have good oral and written communication skills, as well as having a good eye for editing other people's material....now my own material is another story :mfr_lol:

SKILLS: I cook, garden am also handy with a hammer, screw gun and measuring tape for odd jobs around the house. Partially remodeled a home built in 1864, as well as built a new 3000' sq ft home with my ex husband. I've been researching eco-friendly living that also incorporates safety design features for withstanding high winds, earthquakes, power outages and other sustainability features, so I bring many fresh ideas and plenty of good energy to the household team.

I have a life time of experience handling animals including cats, dogs, birds, fish and horses. Natural medicine and forms of healing is another passion, so I have a familiarity with herbs and other forms of natural medicine.

Your welcome to visit my "professional" profile to review my resume and personal recommendations on LinkedIn:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/annette-o-toole/5/b78/918

I enjoy writing, you can check out my work on a variety of subjects at Allvoices.com:
http://www.allvoices.com/users/muzikdiva

A natural born people person, I'm very good with people and am a natural born leader. If you need help managing the house I'm a Certified Resident Manager and can assist with property management, as well as household administration. I'm a highly resourceful individual and very handy around the house. I have good interior/exterior decorating and light maintenance skills; and have managed maintenance, building and landscaping crews. No job is considered too big or too small and I'm not scared of getting my hands dirty.

As a housemate, I'm considered to be responsible, have a great sense of humor, cleanly, honest, friendly, low-drama, always considerate and respectful of others personal space & belongings and I get along well with most everyone - even the cat and the dog! I'm quiet and somewhat of a geek that spends a lot of time on the internet learning about whistleblowers and some pretty fascinating knowledge coming forward. But, there's also never a substitute for spending quality time around intelligent, well informed, spiritually enlightened people. It just seems like there are fewer and fewer aware people living here in Lalaland better known as Burbank, Ca. Did everyone leave for a radiant zone and leave me here with all the comatose wing-nuts, wack-o-doodles and loony-tunes? :eek::woot_jump:

Some quiet, peaceful mountain air and a community of like minded, spiritually aware people is definitely what the doctor ordered right now - a welcome breath of fresh air I'm thirsting to take in.

If anyone can help with leads, or advise on communities seeking new members, it would be deeply appreciated. On the other hand, if there are others like myself with similar aspirations that feel the need to prepare for the future and want to build a sustainable community off-the grid.
I'm open to ideas, lets talk. There has never been a better time to come together. All it takes is the right people coming together and making the decision to do it.

Like Costner in a Field of Dreams, once you make your mind up and put the energy out there....Almost like magic the right people, the ways, the means $$$ and the right opportunity will all come together in synchronicity to make the dream manifest and everything to make it happen will fall in place.

Thank you for your time...with blessings and the kindest regards,

Annette
aka AscendingStarseed

Re: Talented, dynamic female seeks community of like minded people in safe, radiant z
 

Hello and welcome to You Ascended Starseed ,

Here is the link to Timeline 2012.

http://www.timeline2012.org/


You will see communities there that members from this forum are building as well as others across the world.
The rainbow community is being build in Canada by Northern Sanctuary .
The Trace the circle community is in Montana and is being built by TTC.

Both can be contacted .
Northern Sanctuary through PM
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=1116

and TTC through this link:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15664

Love from me
mudra

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http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/image_...-the-toxic.jpg

Friends ,

Visit my thread and watch the movie " Home " .
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=17489

Love Always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

I wrote this on 2 October 09... On the Manifest for you thread...

I got No comments. I stopped writing. I don't write where the interest

is the drama and Wow that Avalon readers Now want:



W0W... To Really Heal the Earth. One would have to destroy the 0il Business.

They remove a substance from under the crust [which weakens the surface]
causing sink holes N' earth quakes. The substance these Evil people remove
they process into poisons such as Plastic, fuel, N' other items they say we
should use. All of them toxic and poison to our bodies and all life. They pick
the pockets of beings of the planet in their greed, for the processing of this
natural continously produced substance. The only way to get rid of it is to
burn it... Which they also want to tax you for using it.[Carbon Tax]...

Plastic collects on the surface; in landfills, in the oceans it kills oceans
creatures, Kills life on the surface and in the sky... They take money from the
earth beings to FIX a problem again and again which THEY caused. Over
N' over I see they repeat the same thing. They ' Hook ' you on something
than take Money from Your labors to FIX what THEY cause... They give
each other that sign of Taurus [the bull] when ever a camera is on them,
You, all know the sign little finger and index finger held outright middle fingers
tucked under held by the thumb forming the face of the bull. They hold it
sidesways in front of their body or up in the air. That is the sign of laughing
at U the payer... As they Pick your pocket they laugh at U.

Electric is the only true energy that is safe. But, it is kept hidden. Henry Ford
hated 0IL people. In 1921 he built a model T; which really used electric to
turn a flywheel which provided forward movement. He used pocket
magnets to repel the magnets on the flywheel which caused rotation....

Coral Castle in Southern Florida was completely built using the same method
to power a generator which Ed, used to lift blocks of limestone of various
shapes in place using the electro/magnetics to repel the blocks lifting off the
earth and placed them where he wanted them. Do I understand it -Y E S.
But, your HOOKED on a drug called 0IL. Henry Ford built his auto to run on
farm products... Never 0IL... He hated 0IL... And the people that brought it.
They killed his son Edsel to flip him... Henry Ford hated 0IL as I hate
pharmaceuticals... another one of their tools. They HOOK you and COOK you.

And, sooo it is. And sooo it will be... Until, all of the beings of the planet
Terra educate themselves get some BALLS and start using ELECTRIC.
Start building generators.

Only then can the earth be healed... Make the dumbing down go away.

Live better electricly... Remember that... Its gone away also.

YOU, AIN'T GOT THE BALLS... And, THEY KNOW THAT.

I have left knowledge all over this site. No One reads it...


Verry trooly,


Tango


Let The Force be withIn you.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Thank you ..Great post Tango .
Hope everyone hears you.

Love Always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

And this, My girl is why your sooo Loved....


Tango

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

still not really getting anywhere.. making connections tho. just not physically getting together..

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

***Sorry I'm late*** :)

Me and some friends are working on a project to build and run an eco-resort on the Mexican coast. The purpose is to create a prime environment for growth and learning. We have done an emmense amount of r+d and are getting our shovels dirty within the next month. We have a dynamic approach that will describe in better detail later. For now, I wanted to say hello and introduce myself. It took me nearly a whole day to read this thread, but I enjoyed it.

I have a lot to say, but I dont have the time right now. Soon. Soon.

In the mean time, I have a website with articles and links, though it isn't quite done with its makeover...
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Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

I think it is a great idea to get it going with the concept of it's being a "resort" because that implies that you will bring it into profit first stage.

I have long wanted to build something in Kenya and my first stage plan was to make it a safari camp, and then a school/village for young artists, and then on from there, step by step, using the income from each project to further build. This largely bypasses the need for investor input.

best wishes,
gnosis

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

These are great news Night Light .
I am looking forward to read more of what you have to share.
May all your dreams come true :)

Love Always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Pineal-Pilot-in the merkabah,

I wish you to sort things out soon.
May you make a quantum leap towards the reaching of your goal.
Any help needed ..ask it on this thread .

Love Always
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

I have read and enjoy your work Tango, I totally agree with your views on oil - well said! :thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

Re: Talented, dynamic female seeks community of like minded people in safe, radiant z
 

Thanks for the leads, I really appreciate your help Mudra and wil let you know if anything comes of it...

Have you heard of a community somewhere in Washington, maybe around the Spokane area? Seems like I read about it on PA but can't remember exactly where and I do remember there was an issue some people couldn't live with - no guns allowed on the property. I don't have a problem with that, spiritual protection and guidance can overcome any threat with enough Faith, Love and Light. :harp::harp:

With much love,
Annette

Re: Talented, dynamic female seeks community of like minded people in safe, radiant z
 

There are a few. I personally visited a couple just a few months ago. PM me if you would like to know more...

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Thx Mudra!

K so my team and I have come up with some amazing things, and I intend to share my knowledge. For the first installment, I would like to refer you to an article I wrote about green-building techniques and technologies. In it you will be introduced to what I believe to be THE BEST WAY TO BUILD: Stabilized Compressed Earth Bricks/Blocks!
To give you a taste before you click the link, here are JUST SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES:

Strength: The blocks are strong! CEB can have a compressive strength as high as 2,000 pounds per square inch. Blocks with compressive strengths of 1,200 to 1,400 p.s.i. are common.

Thermal advantages: Due to the enormous mass - these are monolithic walls - CEB has excellent thermal performance, reducing heating and cooling costs.

Non-toxic: materials are completely natural and do not out-gas toxic chemicals (like concrete and many other modern building materials)

Sound resistant: an important feature in high-density neighborhoods, residential areas adjacent to industrial zones

Fire resistant: earthen walls do not burn

Insect resistant: the walls are solid and very dense, discouraging insects

Mold resistant: there is no cellulose material - such as in wood or drywall



ARTICLE LINK

Soon to come:
Agriculture (Terra-Preta!)
Tools for rapid healing
Open source free energy tech

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Excellent info Night Light .
Thank you for sharing and thank you for giving some leads to Ascended Starseed as well.
I am gratefull for your contribution here.

Love from me
mudra

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

In my travels I found myself at tea in a home in Nairobi. It was stucco'd on the outside and I happened to notice a spot where the stucco had chipped off and was surprised to see packed earth.

I can see that one could also create floating foundation blocks, or decking piers if the bricks hold together as well as concrete does. Do you use regular mortar?

It's past my bedtime and I'm getting a picture of pre-fab homes using packed and/or extruded earthen building materials and modules. It works in Africa, but will it work in Toronto?

cheers!
Gnosis

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi Gnosis,

The technique done in Nairobi could have been a multitude of things. It could be CEB but it could also be rammed earth or adobe.

Truth be told, I have not personally seen or tested a stabilized compressed earth brick. Since there are many different potential stabilizers it is tough to verify an average or uniform strength. Also imprtant to note is that the soil clay sand mixture that makes up the bricks must be within a certain mixture zone, otherwise the brick can be comprimised.

At the same time of course, a brick that is ok in Africa may not be ok in Toronto. This however does not mean it cant work in Toronto. With experimentation, I expect that you could get away with using SCEB in most areas of the world. What is important is that no water sits and stays in contact with the brick. They are water resistant not water proof.

I'm not sure what you are talking about as far as pre-fab... Perhaps you just need some sleep?..

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Speaking of rammed earth, this site puts out a good argument for this as a building material: http://www.rammedearth.ca/

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi,

It's be a while since I've posted any news on our community activities. There's been a lot of activities, so here's a quick update:

1. Presently we have a core group of 3 working full time involved in the community development activities.

2. We've been involved with discussions with the local town municipality as part of the process to obtain a building permit to start construction in the spring when the snow melts. We will need the town council to approve the project, so this process will take some time, as the council will not reconvene until after the holidays.

3. We went to the first conference on Quebec eco-communities where Diane Leafe Christian was the keynote speaker and the event also marked the first directory for such communities in Canada. There were from 175-200 participants present and the energies were very good. The overall impression was that there are a lot of local interest in eco-communities, but that the whole movement is in the early stages and there is a lot of work to be recognized to help such communities to be created (political and municipal recognition for such structures). Most of the people there were not so focused on the 2012 issues, but we got some interest from some people to join our community and have a follow up interview this weekend. Also the organisers want to form an inter-community group and we have expressed our interest to participate.

4. As far as promoting and recruiting members, we have placed our community information in a number of directories, and have got queries internationally from Europe and elsewhere, as well from some people we met from the Edgar Cayce conference last summer and local friends. i got a request to present 2012 information (as a result of the movie 2012 buzz) and possibly a follow up talk on preparation at my previous employer.

5. We are also working on our website. It has been delayed by the other activities, but we are making progress on it.

6. Just as a note of interest to a lot of people on this forum, i'm aware of a local developed product that will be coming out next year that will provide an unlimited source of energy via cold fusion.

7. There has been much synchronistic experiences that we've had, from getting tickets to the above conference after it was sold out, to meeting the proper people that have contributed to helping the community creation effort. It's really amazing to see so much local interest for community creation in this province.

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Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi Sideshow Shaman,

That's an interesting experience. As far as questions, I was wondering if that setup attracted mostly single people? Were there couples/ kids?

The reason why the country setting was considered in this thread is the expected food shortage foreseen in the near future. This is problematic in an urban setting.

/NS

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi Northern,
Yes, the residents were almost entirely single people. There were also some individuals that just stayed briefly then moved on. Of course everyone had to be invited or cleared through the housing board. This was a lot different than the typical communal setting of families homesteading, which I experienced in the 70s.

As for food... ever try dumpstering? There is currently enough planned obsolescence built in to food delivery systems (grocery stores) to feed large quantities of people. While it's true that a major catastrophy would break the supply chain, current supplies are abundant. Short of a truly massive disturbance, the dumpsters will continue to be stocked :wink2:

A friend of mine is getting pretty deep into urban growing/hydroponics, but that does require an initial investment. Would like to see that explored more.

Also, being single and having purged the usual societal attachments, my life attitude is more like living in a beach town that gets blown away every 3 years. That is, do not possess anything you cannot walk away from. This allows me to not worry as much (at all?) about 'big future disasters' as I am confident in my ability to move during those situations.

As a child i lived in the middle-of-nowhere countryside and still think it is a great place to be a kid. However, I have been looking for a communal living situation because (in part) my life became isolating. So, for me, the inner city setting is preferred.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi SS,

As a former member of The Zeitgeist Movement, I'd like to know who the info was forwarded to. I was the primary organizer of Seattle's Z-Day 2009, which to the best of my knowledge was the 2nd largest event in the US, just behind the main event. I explain why I no longer consider myself part of TZM in the about me article at www.TheQuantumU.com

I have no qualm whatsoever with the sharing of the info of course, I simply desire to know who you refer to, as I could potentially supply more info. I have not followed Peter Joseph's words lately but I recall being told that the next film was going to focus on suppressed and emergent technologies, of which I know a bit about.

Re: 'urban radiant zones'

First off, I consider myself a city boy who thrives in urban environments-
but- In my view it is impossible to call an urban area a radiant zone at this time(particularly in the US). Sure, you can create pockets of 'radiance', and I fully believe that running for the hills is a copout not an solution, but lets think about some potential scenarios...

-The economy collapses bringing a stop to the flow of goods, the dollar's value plummets making American buying power essentially non-existent. The moment this happens, you soon see ALL food supplies exhausted leaving little more than crumbs for massive populations. People have to create new ways of survival, because their jobs (if they are lucky to still have them) are no longer able to pay them the money they so desparately need to put food in their mouth. Such a scenario could easily give way to chaos, but less so in areas that are able to completely self sustain, at the very least, by producing their own food and water. Cities, as they are designed up to now, are incapable of supporting large populations without complete reliance on outside sources of food and water.

-I am not a doomsayer, but IF martial law were to be enforced, the last place I would want to be is anywhere near a city, or even a railroad for that matter. If I were in the city, and SHTF, I would hope to be able to make it to rural areas asap. I have never been in an evacuation scenario, but I have been in rush hour traffic, and I can say that when large numbers of people are on the roads, it becomes nearly impossible to travel. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if utter pandimonium erupted at the slightest hint of trouble. Desparation and fear can drive ordinary people to do ugly things for self preservation.

-Say you are smart and set up a comprehensive plan to prepare for any potential problems at a personal level. Say your friends down the street weren't so smart, leaving the burden on you to either share or refuse to help out of concern for your own survival. More importantly, what if some sad and lost soul decides that since you are a 'have', and they are a 'have-not', it is acceptable to even the odds through violence?

-Even if the above problems are not encountered, a radiant zone can hardly be called such in areas of large amounts of polution(i.e. industrial zones, airports and cities). Indeed there will soon be an intense global campaign to put an end to future pollution, in fact the techniques already exist, just waiting to be accepted and implemented. What few realize is that a large majority of our building materials are toxic, and release poisons over time. On top of that, our old ways of inefficiency and planned obselescence(driven by personal profit motive) have rendered our buildings and various infrastructures obsolete at best, dangerous at worst. My point here is that building new structures(and infrastructures) rather than utilizing existing ones in fact makes more sense. I have had this debate with many people while in the Zeitgeist Movement. It is not wise in my opinion to build on top of the old. If I were to rebuild a tower at Piza so that it no longer leans, would anyone think it wise of me if were to use the existing foundation below the current leaning tower? I think not.


It is our mission to co-create a new and harmonious paradigm in respect to all aspects of our human existence. A multi-faceted challenge deserves a multi-faceted solution, and I am personally planning on being city bound for as long as I can, because that is where I am most effective in reaching people.

I think that what people do everywhere to altruistically help their neighbors, friends, AND foes (no matter where they are physically), will be the deciding factor in the outcome of what is happening, here(USA) and everywhere.

Regarding your debt, my friend, I implore you to not let it stop you from doing what you have to do. Especially if the debt is to a creditor. When all this blows over I HIGHLY doubt it will be relevant.

With respect and humble gratitude,
NL

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Please post information on the energy system based on cold fusion.
Thanks

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi Northern Santuary, good to hear from you again. And your news is most encouraging to say the least. I am also interested in hearing more about the "energy source" you mentioned. Best wishes and continued success in the coming year to you and your team.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hi Sunflower, nice to hear from you too. Here's the information link for the cold fusion product I mentioned:

http://omael.com/!_HydroPlasmol_Tele...ol_Anglais.PDF

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Here's a very good video that exemplifies the sense of a self sustainable community:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3318053&hl=en#

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

"Work and leisure are almost one". "This is a timeless life". "Everyone in Ladakh knows how to build a house"

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Hey Night Light,

Took me a few days to notice your post, good questions. People do always seem focused on communities in nature. And of course I always need some nature time every year.

The website of my old friend ( that I forwarded the Compressed Earth Brick info to ) is www.xomox.cn. I don't think he's a big organizer in the Zeitgeist phenom & he has been in Asia for some years. Some of his research/info survived the final edit & got into Addendum and he was doing something for the next one. Not involved with it myself but the Zeitgeist community seems pretty huge. Mi amigo was focusing his current research on established food growing technologies & is currently chasing/creating project opportunities in Cambodia. Any info about growing food in vertical farms would be great, more for him than for ZG.

As for the Urban vs. Country thing, I somewhat disagree. For me radiant zones are about the energy/actions of the people present not anything else.

I don't think i can really respond to your concerns about martial law, economic collapse, roving hoards and toxic waste individually in detail. These all seem like 'old paradigm' concerns... False Evidence Appearing Real. Personally, I cheer every time the stock market goes down, the sooner this system breaks the better. Martial Law is already a reality and even countryside is toxic now. Also, in times of great crisis people come together. That has been my experience and it seems more so as time goes by.

While I do not really feel one approach is inherently better than the other (the answer is always both), I will pretend to argue against the countryside for the sake of conversation. It seems that the country communities are made up of very small groups of people. It also seems like the membership is static or non-fluid. While permanence or survivability (sustainability?) might be valuable to some, should that really be required for radiance? Ok, done with 'devils advocate'.

Some things that made me think of my last urban place of residence as a radiant zone (zone-lette?)...
Tons of activism, people actively influencing audiences/media & being successful at it
Visitors/residents coming, staying and going from around the world - a fluid, changing, large population
Everyone living well outside of preconceived normal culture
Lots of musicians and artists practicing their crafts
Random spontaneous dancing
Free food
A diverse mixture of people, presence of indigenous tribes people
Neighbors that look super scary, but were actually nice

Maybe we could all make a list, "you might be in a radiant zone if..."
Doing that could clarify what we mean by this phrase. It likely means different things to different people.

Recently Kre8ive Lady made a very good comment on another thread about the issues in communal living that she saw coming up over and over in different communities.

My interpretation of the points in her comment are :
Issues that arise in communal living,
1.) Rules enforced inconsistently and unfairly
2.) Disputes over money and/or ownership (land, property)
3.) Individuals exploiting rules for personal benefit
4.) Whoever has the most money wins
5.) Senior members acting as dictators towards junior members, example: founders turning into 'mini-Hilters'

These are issues that I see as important, mostly interpersonal in nature. So while I was thinking about these things I watched a TED presentation, "Barry Schwartz on our loss of wisdom". In it he proposes that rules or bureaucracy cannot solve many problems. He gives examples of practical wisdom that 'saves' situations.

So this gave me an epiphany. The solution to these recurring problems is not more rules or even rewards. The solution is creating an environment that nurtures wisdom. Perhaps this could be provoked by choosing members already prone to "doing the right thing, in the right way, for the right reasons".

Briefly, on the topic of rules & structure for communities... I do think some rules are required, but minimally. The best legal structure, imo, is an unincorporated non-profit association which then requires all property to be owned by a trust. But these are secondary issues to the interpersonal ones that will come up no matter what structure is used.

It can be amazing how few rules are needed when participants are ethical. For radiant zones it seems more appropriate to focus on fostering good than on enforcing conduct. In the end I propose that even physical structures (homes) and locations are less important than altruism or 'practical wisdom'.

best wishes, respect,
— SS

P.S. my debt is a minor annoyance that will be gone before spring. Didn't you (Night Light) say you were doing something in the southern Yucatan? I love that area, good choice.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

Thank you for sharing your insight Sideshow Shaman ,

You come up with interesting points.

A radiant Heart will sure put a radiant zone where ever he goes .
That's how Earth should be as we all reconnect to our Universal
heart .We will then see radiant cities and radiant rural
communities flourish and ultimately a radiant globe.
Now as a living organisms have several and very different parts
to function as a whole I can understand that everyone according
to it's unique soul signature and inherent talents will choose to
be radiant within a city and others will prefer to settle in nature.
In resonance to everyone's inner will there will see small groups emerging
or very large ones .
Mother Earth gives us room to elaborate many plans to express
our inner wisdom and balance.

Love Always
mudra

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Hello Mudra,

This makes sense to me. Many smaller radiant communities at least at beginning mixed with larger communities. No fixedness on either large or small.

My visions and imagery seem to be unique to myself unlike the usually collective consciousness agreements.

Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?
 

I couldn't agree more, in fact I was really just thinking out loud. Good points you make for sure.

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With respect to community decisions, the one that has proven to work well is based on consensus. Here's one definition from wiki:

As a decision-making process, consensus decision-making aims to be:
Inclusive: As many stakeholders as possible should be involved in the consensus decision-making process.
Participatory: The consensus process should actively solicit the input and participation of all decision-makers.[1]
Cooperative: Participants in an effective consensus process should strive to reach the best possible decision for the group and all of its members, rather than opt to pursue a majority opinion, potentially to the detriment of a minority.[1]
Egalitarian: All members of a consensus decision-making body should be afforded, as much as possible, equal input into the process. All members have the opportunity to present, amend and veto or "block" proposals.
Solution-oriented: An effective consensus decision-making body strives to emphasize common agreement over differences and reach effective decisions using compromise and other techniques to avoid or resolve mutually-exclusive positions within the group.
Most Logical*: This happens when a solution appears to be impossible to execute because of the lack of support and cooperation.[2]

more info at link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making

There is also books written on it, that can apply to large community networks called: We the People, A Guide to Sociocratic Principles, by John Buck.

/NS