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If I would pay someone...large amounts of money...to observe that someone...blinking with his flashlight...and be disappointed with the result...u bet you could read all bout it in greatest detail online...

so....

Is there any place where one could read the opinions of the attendants of this meetings?

I am not saying yes or no here.... I just wish to know more...see more...

I have already expressed my opinion on this in other thread where I wrote (summary): it is utterly frustrating that all possible whistle blowers do not find a common ground to work on...

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I agree with you DAGON , THEORIES UPON THEORIES....What we want is REALTY........Iam beginning to get to the stage that ...seeing is believing paradox
lots of love to you all ,i know discernment is very hard at the moment
lol
Dom

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There is, actually. In fact, I think that is how I first heard about them before I looked into it way back when to verify if it was true.

Where did I see this? Couldn't tell you, it's been a while... but it's out there still I'm pretty sure of that.


Something to remember though, the ufo summoning or whatever he calls it... that is just a part of the larger BS package he sells. So I think that part is probably explained as 'just having fun' or something like that.

All these "UFO personalities" sell a BS package of some sort, and I'm not referring to material products. Their stories, theories, 'witnesses', etc.

Greer just happens to be one of the worst. And a douche to boot.

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I'm not sure I follow your usage of the word douche here. My handy online dictionary defines it: a jet of liquid applied to a part of the body for cleansing or medicinal purposes.

So then from this, it seems soapy water applied just so could be be considered a douche. Maybe your mouth could use a good douche? Just a suggestion. :lmfao:

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:lol3:

Hahaha You are right.



Believe it or not though, that is my semi-polite way of saying it.... not the word I WANTED to use for sure.

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I'm sorry, but is "by suggesting he douche" what you meant to say? Because it seems grammatically incomplete. try it again. Think back to the english classes I assume you attended.

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Oh. I see the miscommunication. sorry. my mistake. I wasn't suggesting he douche, but rather that he "be douched". It makes sense now. Thanks. Ain't this fun?

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How can the above statement be established as fact or non-factual?

I'm very curious. That statement is quite interesting to say the least.

Does anyone have first-hand knowledge?

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This may come off sounding paranoid- but research and experience has taught me over the course of 30 years studying this phenemenon that every sector is infiltrated......it's part of the way life on this planet operates and is controlled.

The *Disclosure* movement being infiltrated would not be an exception- If I were part of a negative ET faction I would most likely be infiltrating benign groups.

Human Illuminati on the planet operate the same way- it also creates confusion, chaos, disharmony......

Greer et al most likely never intended it and may not even be aware of what is happening.

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First off it is a laser light, not a flash light. Second, trashing others says more about you personally as a person then the person one is attempting to discredit.

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Ok, sorry. LASER LIGHT.


That is much better.


That is ok. I am the first to admit I can be a jerk.

If its one thing I can say for 100% FACT, is that I am never fake on here. Life is too short to be phony.

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Nice to read that the first intuitive idea I had about you, was correct.
:mfr_lol:

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Hi All!

I have posted some scientific content on what Steven Greer 'seems' to be trying to convey about no 'bad' aliens.

I have worked on the science of consciousness for decades (I have a science degree, which is a bit old now from Queensland Australia in the 1980s), but specialise in pioneering mainstream standard models in physics (cosmology and particle physics).

Now the thing with Steven Greer was the following. I viewed the interview with Bill and Kerry and found Steven's comments in just about 95% line with my own work.
Then I watched his Barcelona (or Madrid?) representation and found a GENERAL convergence in his address with everything else know about through my own research.

I normally do not engage in 'persona' debates on public forums; but I experienced a resonating electromagnetic 'spark' when I viewed Greer's interview with Bill and Kerry.
This wasn't persona oriented, but related to what he said.
This is unusual (and I do converse with many people on an impersonal - just data -level) and therefore did I take the time to check things out.
Now today, reading much of your comments and the debates here and on the Bill Ryan thread; I learn about 'money' and 'sexual' issues about Steven Greer and this (in the former not the second as the second has rather important implications to 'harmonise' and to metamorphosise the 'old human' cosmic Id into a 'new starhuman' Id) of course does indeed ALLOW a kind of double-agent role wrt his proclaimed agenda.

Allow me to state, that I have tried to personally contact Steven Greer via his website and I shall refine my 'analysis' as to his integrity of stated purpose if and when I get a reply from him.
I shall inform the forum here about any developments.
I have also sent the post (to Steven Greer) to Bill and Kerry.

Lastly, allow me to state that there are wonderful people on this forum and whilst there seem to be some disagreements in interpreations; all contributions I have read derive from a well above the norm 'understanding of the true spirituality' inherent in all of the old human caterpillars who have fed enough to enter their cocoons to transform into a new and hitherto utopian 'butterflies of joy and love'.

There does exist a 'Secret of Humanity' and this 'secret' addresses your cosmic identies, both individually and collectively.
The difference between those two modes (you are all at more places simultaneously and your own doppelgaengers or shadows) - is at the basis of the 'good ET- - 'bad ET' dichotomy.

John Shadow

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Hi Eleni.

Not paranoid. It's real in it's way. but what's usually missed these days, is that there are other ways to look and other places to look from. It really does boil down to perspective now, as new perspectives come available.

It's in the application of judgement that polarized conditions are held in place. What appears negative vs positive here, appears as the simple other side of a unified coin, elsewhere.

What is locked in life and death struggle here in polarity-ville, is a beatiful cosmic ballet from higher perspectives.

It's such delicious irony that rejecting negative polarity with prejudice, is what holds it apart from it's twin, the positive polarity, and thereby maintains the charged condition.

Of course it's real. Of course there is negativity. But it's a simple projection we place through our judgement. Balance and integration ends the stand off and sets music to the cosmic dance.

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What about this part? Does anyone have first-hand knowledge?

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Hi seashore!

I know what you are saying. The money angle is a great 'putoff'. The 'summoning' ufo however with 'any lights - even intentional thought concentration would suffice' is 'perfectly aligned' with my scientific understanding of how the ET phenomena should 'manifest' in a flat Euclidean Minkowski spacetime (its a 3D cross-section of a 4D space higherD cosmology - subject to inertia/frequency deceleration.

So the comments on the money angle here imo are valid, whilst the comments on the 'fake contacts' are not.

I found the comment in the Spain video about 'being inside an invisible' plasma-energy field of a craft highly confirmative of the spacetime realisations (and as related to individualised consciousness fields then tapping the 'universal information field as a basic physical quasi electromagnetic reality') and as indicated above.

JohnS

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Actually, I'm not saying anything.

I'm asking a direct question.

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Ok sorry to have offended your sentiments and of misunderstanding your intents!

JohnS

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Carol seems to know about it, maybe she will share.

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:original: I didn't mean to hint that you offended me! You didn't. Thanks for your kind reply...

I'm just really curious - does he charge thousands?? :mfr_omg:

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Upcoming ambassador training in April 2010

http://www.cseti.org/programs/Trainings.htm

Tuition Fees: $995 includes the Working Group Training kit/manual, the 2 meditation CDs (see Required Reading above), and Dr. Greer's latest book with DVD "Contact: Countdown to Transformation". (There is a discount for those who have already attended a training.)

Lodging Fees :

Lodging is paid by the participant separately for all trainings. It is not included in the tuition cost.

Plus your transportation costs to and from site.

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Thanks, waitinginthewings.

Right away I see the word tuition. That's interesting in itself for me. This is not a conference, it's training?

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I have been to CSETI training. We had ET contact there, and I've formed a local group (free) and have had numerous ET interactions since. I've met people who have been going to CSETI events from the start and I've heard their stories. Amazing stuff. Many people attend more than one training. I met a college professor that has been to seven of them. I think that says something about the value of the experience.

Those who don't understand the CE5 process tend to say incorrect things like "Greer is attracting ETs with flashlights". All I can say is, I suggest you educate yourself a bit more on the subject. Making contact depends much more on consciousness than gadgetry. You can learn to do this with or without help from Greer.

As for the cost, it is in line with other events of various sorts with similar amounts of instuctor contact time that I have attended. Class size for CSETI training events is usually limited to about 40 people due to the nature of the activity.

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