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Ampgod 11-21-2008 01:44 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaundelear (Post 84128)
Hi new to this thread just read part 1 and have a simple question .
Why is it required/suggested to use this for an extended period of time if Jim has purged malaria and aids in a couple of days?
Been reading parts of the thread but its massive just seemed to have missed why people take it and are willing to make themselves ill but are happy doing this?

To answer your question:

There are many variables.
People's body states vary and diseases are different.
Some diseases/illnesses take longer to fix.
For instance... I am tackling Herpes Simplex which takes a lot longer sometimes then malaria to fix.

peaceandlove 11-21-2008 03:25 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
;) Blessings All,

OK, I've received some information today regarding my post pasted from a website regarding the use of MMS with activator to purify and remove fluoride from water.

This is the response I received from PGL International, AKA: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Quote:

That source is actually a quote of Jim Humble. Thanks for sharing.
In my next post I will compile a list of questions I have not been able to find answers to or that have been posed by other members.

peaceandlove 11-21-2008 05:32 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peer (Post 84059)
About the percentages:
I believe we should not get into fights about the real stuff or not real stuff discussions:
NaClO2=NaClO2.
If it is not chemically pure you may have side products like sodiumchloride which is just the normal salt we use for cooking, which is also the residu that remains after chlorinedioxide has done its work.

Blessings Peer,

You're of great help to all these questioning minds reading this thread.

I didn't realize anyone was fighting. It's just a search for truth and knowledge. More than once I have been asked to provide where the quoted information I post on this thread came from, so it is my desire to serve in the best way I can by taking the time to find answers, especially if there is incongruent information online.

People should know exactly what it is they're taking. Just as I will not take a colloidal silver that may have been mixed in someone's bathtub. More than a couple times I have had salt poisoning from so-called 'normal' salt. (Due to eating commercially salted peanuts.) I cannot use table salt, I have to use a non-chemically processed salt.

This is great Bill will be interviewing Mr. Humble. There are a couple questions posed to me (regarding information I have gleaned online, either on the forum or via private messages) that quick answers would be nice to know, bypassing continuing research and reading. I acknowledge some of these questions may be answered in one of Mr. Humble's books and my sincere apologies for having not read all the references available.

;) THANK YOU BILL!

Here are a few questions if Mr. Humble would be so gracious to answer and/or provide additional technical details.

Quite a few of the questions are about purifying water since it appears MMS can definitely be a blessing, as our need to purify water easily is paramount.
1. How does the MMS with activator purify water AND REMOVE FLUORIDE?
This question will need to be answered technically, if possible, as the question posed by Myra is:

Quote:

Fluoride is one of the higher Halogens therefore very hard to get rid of. Chlorine (or Chlorine Dioxide) is a lower Halogen and because of this I don't believe it can remove Fluoride.

I read Jim Humbles 1st book. Please send me a link that states it removes Fluoride I would like to see it. Thanks!
2. One website says to use 1 drop MMS with 5 drops activator to purify one gallon of water. Another says to use 2 drops MMS with 10 drops activator ot purify one gallon of water. Is one ratio better than the other?

3. Swanny, this one's for you:
Quote:

How long does the water remain purified?
4. Another link states: (Can you verify?)
Quote:

Further Notes: In an emergency if you don't have an activator available, you can add inactivated MMS at night and let it sit overnight. The water will activate the MMS slowly over several hours. Again, only 1 drop of MMS per gallon for drinking water is necessary.
5. Will the MMS with activator purify pond water?

6. I've seen statements claiming it will purify urine. Is that true?

7. Can a person leave the MMS solution too long in their mouth allowing the acid to diminish enamel or be of more serious threat to teeth whose cementum has been exposed due to receding gum lines?

8. Just saw this question at wiki-answers.com, but there was no answer to it.
What pH is a solution of sodium chloride in pure water? (I noticed the question does not include a ratio so it might not be easy to answer.)

9. Can the MMS Solution or MMS alone be used as a bleach on clothes or ceramics?

10. Is there a difference between the laboratory grade Sodium Chloride, food grade Sodium Chloride, commerical grade Sodium Chloride and the industrial grade Sodium Chloride as used in melting icy roads?
This is what I noted on Wikipedia: Sodium Chloride
Salt for de-icing in the UK typically contains sodium hexacyanoferrate (II) at less than 100ppm as an anti-caking agent. In recent years this additive has also been used in table salt.

COMMON CHEMICALS:
Chemicals used in de-icing salts are mostly found to be sodium chloride (NaCl) or calcium chloride (CaCl2). Both are similar and are effective in de-icing roads. When these chemicals are produced, they are mined/made, crushed to fine granules, then treated with an anti-caking agent.
Mr. Humble,
Besides being a blessing in my life, I am grateful for the thousands of people you have liberated! A hero in my book.

peaceandlove 11-21-2008 09:57 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Blessings Bill,

I did think of one other question
as it pertains to a friend who just last week received diagnosis from a hair analysis and was told she has alarming amounts of arsenic in her body.

Mr. Humble has mentioned that MMS Solution is helpful in removing heavy metals. Probably a stupid question, but specifically for my friend, would you mind asking about arsenic?

Gratefully Yours,

Ampgod 11-21-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Ok , I realized something.

I realized that my virus had already made tiny bubbles inside my lip under the skin before I took MMS. So it would appear that the bubbles are isolated from system and that MMS won't be able to get to them. So, I will finish this week of high doses. Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses. Then i'll start the Zovirax to clear the lip of the dormant tiny bubbles. Then pick up the MMS again and get to full dose for a couple weeks. That should do it. I'm hoping. I understand that the MMS will go after the Zovirax as it doesn't belong in the body. So i'll have to separate the usage.

I am not sure on this. Just trying to figure things out here.

Peace,
Ampgod

clydebuilt 11-21-2008 10:02 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Hi been reading all the info, I suffer with IBS so here goes.
Will be ordering the MMS end of the month to see what happens thanks for the thread and all the great feedback goodluck to you all...
:thumb_yello:

alice goes nuts.... 11-21-2008 11:25 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
ampgod, the virus is dormant in the nervsystem, when it brakes out on the skinsurface in is the nomal skintissue, if mms works like we are told it is detoxing the nervesyetem to, i m thinking about this with mercury and brain. so i m sure it will take away herpes too, but, not everything that looks like herpse is that, it can also be allergic stuff, or bacterial. herpes is small clusters og vesicles often 3 amd 3 vesicles, bacterial is bigger vesicles and often leaves a crusty appearance afterwards.

in homeopathy it is often a good sign if something hits the surface of the body, like the skin, often this periode can be long, because the body is getting rid of the stuff and is healing this way. if u have used cortisone or anibiotic or antiviral treatment this will take longer, because the **** has been supressed inwards to deeper levels of the body. this is a prosess.

my ekspiriment is on warts at my albow, since it is virus, i guess i will need time to remove it, but after one week and 3 days i think i can see difference. after another week if it is not totally gone, i will start to make a skinwater and put it om directly, to see it that speeds up the prosess.

peaceandlove 11-22-2008 12:01 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 84607)
Ok , I realized something.

Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses.
Peace,
Ampgod

Blessings Ampgod,

After reading your post I posed another question for Bill to ask Mr. Humble.
My question was that if someone is taking the MMS with food in their stomach as opposed to an empty stomach, would they need to go to a higher level like 30 drops, as I've read some people have, in order to reap the full benefits of the MMS.

He probably received the question too late, considering the time difference.
Yesterday, I was not able to get to posting early enough for Bill to probably receive the questions in time.

I am not, although, not giving up my quest for answers. Will keep updating.

The people here have been very helpful:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

mntruthseeker 11-22-2008 12:06 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
I am feeling pretty good today and I wanted to share with you all.

I didn't want to get sicker than I had to so I only jumped doses by the day not doses. So on day one I took 2, day two I took 3 and I got sick yesterday when I started my 4 drops. Today I took 5 and I am fine. Not only am I find but the last two days I have been coughing up **** and for the first time in over 7 years my lungs feel clear. I am going to continue to go slow on this but today I really am happy.

My main problem now seems to be with ashma. I really feel that I kicked butt on the emphysema and bronchitis.
I did feel like there was a fire in the right side of my lung before I started coughing up and also in my stomach area.
Today I am not sick at all nor am I coughing. I just feel good. I know that my lungs sure feel light.

I am wearing my oxygen still but have it on one litter. I can't expess how happy I am. I was told that once you are on oxygen you stay on BS I went and picked up some albuteral and pulmacor but its just for backup. My lungs were actually punctured during a proceedure so I have ashma pretty bad. BUT I have faith that I will heal that next.

I am so happy :wink2:

I am so happy I want to go into every room I ever ventured into for COPD and yell from at the top of my lungs there is help people. I will give it one week longer but I'm not pushing up the dosage. I will keep watching what I eat and stay healthy as I continue on my voyage.

I hope that when I'm told to go back to work there is a job out there for me

Thanks to all of you for writing your experience to get me to move off my dead ass to get motivated and work on this. :lol3:

alice goes nuts.... 11-22-2008 12:47 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
wow, so cool, very nice responce, i read a story about a women on o2 that could quit it i think this one had ms too....anyway, imressive respons.....i had i little flue symptoms the 3-4 day, but was not sure....but i think it was clearing out virus....

anyway....good luck on your journey....:original:

Ampgod 11-22-2008 12:52 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alice goes nuts.... (Post 84684)
ampgod, the virus is dormant in the nervsystem, when it brakes out on the skinsurface in is the nomal skintissue, if mms works like we are told it is detoxing the nervesyetem to, i m thinking about this with mercury and brain. so i m sure it will take away herpes too, but, not everything that looks like herpse is that, it can also be allergic stuff, or bacterial. herpes is small clusters og vesicles often 3 amd 3 vesicles, bacterial is bigger vesicles and often leaves a crusty appearance afterwards.

in homeopathy it is often a good sign if something hits the surface of the body, like the skin, often this periode can be long, because the body is getting rid of the stuff and is healing this way. if u have used cortisone or anibiotic or antiviral treatment this will take longer, because the **** has been supressed inwards to deeper levels of the body. this is a prosess.

my ekspiriment is on warts at my albow, since it is virus, i guess i will need time to remove it, but after one week and 3 days i think i can see difference. after another week if it is not totally gone, i will start to make a skinwater and put it om directly, to see it that speeds up the prosess.

Thanks.
But I consider myself an expert on herpes simplex.
I have studied it since I got it at 17 years old. I am now 36.
I have mastered it to a point of not being much of a nuisance at all.
I know exactly what it is. Where, when and how it comes up.
How it feels before it comes up. Visually, what it looks like when its semi dormant etc.

So, It is herpes simplex I can assure you. hehehe

You may be right that MMS will deactivate the tiny bubbles. However, I can still see them there (under the skin). I am taking the Zovirax now to see if it acts the same on my lips as it did all the years before. If it doesn't react like it did before we can assume MMS changed something. :) So lets see what happens. :)

mntruthseeker 11-22-2008 12:53 AM

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Thank you Alice and good luck on yours

I was just told how nice it was to hear my voice over the phone. woooohoooooo

This is truly great and I thank you Jim Humble once again for putting this out there...............and to you Leer for posting this thread and all that contributed to it, especially you Peace&Love.


Vickie is happy happy :winksmiley02:

Swanny 11-22-2008 01:30 AM

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Nice one mntruthseeker :thumb_yello:
Good news that your feeling it already :)
Hope it sorts your eyesight out as well :winksmiley02:

flynt144 11-22-2008 10:03 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Ampgod can't you use MMS directly? Was thinking about letting my kids try it on their acne.

Ps my kids kept drinking my apple/pineapple juice so i just use water, that made it taste like bleech and I think caused must of my nausea?

flynt144 11-22-2008 10:10 AM

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Morning Swammi :lmao:

peaceandlove 11-22-2008 12:23 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Meant to say, NOT giving up my quest for answers.

YEAH MNTRUTHSEEKER!

This passage seems very pertinent to some of the recent posts on this thread:

Quote:

Different Conditions

With serious acute infections or poisonings, such as with malaria Humble recommends giving immediately 15 drops followed an hour later by another 15 drops. While most conditions tend to improve with a medium-dose taken over a long period, some parasitic and viral conditions seem to require at least one high double dose to get results. It seems that with life-threatening acute conditions a high double dose can be more easily handled than with chronic conditions.

For chronic or long-standing conditions always increase the number of drops very slowly over a period of weeks. it is best to increase by 1 drop each day until you feel some nausea. The next day drop back by 2 drops and stay at this level for several days until increasing again by 1 drop a day. In this way you gradually work your way higher, reducing and then increasing again to keep nausea under control. You may reduce problems by dividing the daily dose into a morning and a bedtime portion, but after some time always try to edge higher until you start feeling the nausea. If you continue to encounter nausea whenever you raise the dose then just remain for a long time on a level that does not cause problems. Eventually nausea with vomiting or diarrhea may catch up with you anyway but it is better if that is at a high rather than a low level of MMS.

With an acute infection you may start with 3 or 4 drops and increase quite rapidly, even if this means nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. With severe parasite problems, such as malaria attack, or if one had taken a poison, or has food poisoning, or with snake bites, a high double dose of MMS will often help.

Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book:
Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page to FREE - Download

http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

Kimmie 11-22-2008 12:50 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
PeaceandLove,
There may be too much on my mind today, so I'm not totally "seeing what I should", so i have to ask..."when I clicked on the link you offered where would i find the download?". We got home last night late after setting up for Mom's Wake today and my mind is blank. So I need more details!! Or sleep would be good!!
Peaceandlove...help....click link, then go to???? and download first part of book. I'll check back later!! My husband and I both want to order this yet he has questions. Thanks for info....sorry I'm reading through a cloud right now,
Kimmie

Kimmie 11-22-2008 12:53 PM

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Sad to think ...if I'd known of this 6 months ago or a year ago Momma might not have passed on from cancer. yet she may have had things to do in the next level and her passing was on schedule.

Swanny 11-22-2008 01:01 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmie (Post 85023)
Sad to think ...if I'd known of this 6 months ago or a year ago Momma might not have passed on from cancer. yet she may have had things to do in the next level and her passing was on schedule.

I lost my Mum to cancer as well, I'd have put her on MMS if I had known about it, I think your right if she was meant to be saved she would have been.

When the reaper comes calling there is no escape :death1:

peaceandlove 11-22-2008 01:01 PM

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Blessings Kimmie,

I would probably be a cloud too. Yes, I have felt that way about my parents passing and information I know today I did not know then. It's a mysterious universe.

Go to http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

CLICK ON ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page and under MMS Resources you will see blue lettering with FREE - Download Part 1 of Jim Humble's ebook.

It's a good start. I have posted quite a bit of information on this thread, but feel free to ask me and I can probably direct you to the page and post numbers that may have the answers you are looking for or I can copy and paste them directly to you, whenever you're ready.

Peace to you Kimmie ~ Wishing you well today.

Kimmie 11-22-2008 01:11 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Does it have any effect on broken bones/healing joints? I dislocated my ankle and shattered the bones on both sides of the joint a yaer and a half ago. I put on weight-using a wheel chair and walker..no weitht on ankle for 3 months-and now have swelling when working in the gardens or any pulling/pushing/lifting activities that go on for hours.

Does MMS "heal and strenghten'? or simply "keep the bodily systems in optimal functioning condition?

peaceandlove 11-22-2008 02:02 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Kimmie,

I remembered that I pasted some information regarding that.

This was posted on page 3, I think or 2, anyway. Sounds like some of the pain is from inflammation and when the immune system is working better the body is able to heal itself. There are probably a couple other things you could do to speed up the repair time in conjunction with the MMS.

Quote:

Chlorine Dioxide gas circulates in the blood stream, destroying pathogens that are gradually eliminated.

~ MMS doesn't replace damaged body parts or add anything such as vitamins, nutrition, or protein.
~ MMS boosts the immune system immeasurably - 100% or even greater.
~ MMS doesn't heal anything. Sprains, whip-lash, bald head, addictions, and bad attitudes are not caused by bacteria.
~ When your body is free from poisons and toxins, the immune system sometimes "heals" damaged body parts.
~ Life style and positive attitudes are factors in triggering the immune system into reconstructive healing mode.
~ Claimed: MMS can be used periodically to maintain a cleansed toxin-free body, achieving high levels of immunity.
~ Conflict with other drugs is unlikely. If in doubt, voluntarily eliminate one or the other.
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and usage.

Myplanet2 11-22-2008 02:25 PM

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Peaceandlove. Please, with the colors already. The "blue" forum skin hurts my eyes, and the colors your choose are invisible in the alternate "minty" skin.

I'm interested in your posts, but can't read them without selecting the invisible text and highlighting it.

Most of what's quoted below can't be read by me as it is.


Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 85028)
Blessings Kimmie,

I would probably be a cloud too. Yes, I have felt that way about my parents passing and information I know today I did not know then. It's a mysterious universe.

Go to http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing

CLICK ON ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page and under MMS Resources you will see blue lettering with FREE - Download Part 1 of Jim Humble's ebook.

It's a good start. I have posted quite a bit of information on this thread, but feel free to ask me and I can probably direct you to the page and post numbers that may have the answers you are looking for or I can copy and paste them directly to you, whenever you're ready.

Peace to you Kimmie ~ Wishing you well today.


peaceandlove 11-22-2008 02:44 PM

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I'm sorry, I did change some of the colors on the text you had mentioned in a previous page. The white is so bright to me it bothers my eyes. Is the white better for you? When you said minty, I thought you meant I should use the minty or pale colors. Sometimes I make a few things brighter for the skimmers so they will at least catch the more important points, but I'm happy to take a suggestion.

I know the red is rough to read and the really bright blue, so I use them less. Even the last few posts I deliberately used subtle hues especially for you and anyone else that hasn't mentioned that they were hard to read.

Let me know what's best for you. The small print is what gets me. I was posting in a larger size so I'll try that again. Sometimes I have to copy other people's posts and paste them into my message box and then increase the size and read them in the Preview so I don' have to strain my eyes. I know it's a pain in the you know what.

Myplanet2 11-22-2008 05:27 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 85072)
I'm sorry, I did change some of the colors on the text you had mentioned in a previous page. The white is so bright to me it bothers my eyes. Is the white better for you? When you said minty, I thought you meant I should use the minty. Sometimes I make a few things brighter for the skimmers so they will at least catch the more important points, but I'm happy to take a suggestion.

I know the red is rough to read and the really bright blue, so I use them less. Even the last few posts I deliberately used subtle hues especially for you and anyone else that hasn't mentioned that they were hard to read.

Let me know what's best for you. The small print is what gets me. I was posting in a larger size so I'll try that again. Sometimes I have to copy other people's posts and paste them into my message box and then increase the size and read them in the Preview so I don' have to strain my eyes. I know it's a pain in the you know what.

That's great, thanks. It shows as green on a very light background in minty. If you want to see what alternatives look like, at the bottom of the page is the button to change skin color. the two default color schemes are minty and electric. Very bottom.

Thanks for understanding.

Connecting with Sauce 11-22-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 84607)
Ok , I realized something.

I realized that my virus had already made tiny bubbles inside my lip under the skin before I took MMS. So it would appear that the bubbles are isolated from system and that MMS won't be able to get to them. So, I will finish this week of high doses. Making that 2 full weeks at very high doses. Then i'll start the Zovirax to clear the lip of the dormant tiny bubbles. Then pick up the MMS again and get to full dose for a couple weeks. That should do it. I'm hoping. I understand that the MMS will go after the Zovirax as it doesn't belong in the body. So i'll have to separate the usage.

I am not sure on this. Just trying to figure things out here.

Peace,
Ampgod

Ampgod,
Not sure where you've got to with the virus killing etc... but I remember Dr Bob Beck mentioning wart viruses hiding outside of the blood stream. This was why he used the magnetic pulse section of his protocol to shock the viruses out of the spinal columns and glands etc where they lie dormant and out of he blood flow (so it wasn't able to be zapped by his blood zapper).

Sorry for off topic nature and laterness to the thread :) I assme I should get myself some MMS and catch up ;)

Myplanet2 11-22-2008 11:39 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
According to Camelot "what's new" update, Bill had the Jim Humble interview in the bag.

It doesn't say when it'll be released, but I look forward to watching that one.

mntruthseeker 11-23-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Well its been a long last couple of days. I guess I was fooled to think I was through the rough part. I guess you can't rush it. My lungs do feel better but I guess I just dont eat too well. I am working on that.

I also wanted to know why we had to keep taking this when you see that malaria was cleared in 4 hours. I have to say its the wonderful food we are able to afford.

I am just going one more week and see where it goes. hate it ! :shocked:

peaceandlove 11-23-2008 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 85111)
That's great, thanks. It shows as green on a very light background in minty. If you want to see what alternatives look like, at the bottom of the page is the button to change skin color. the two default color schemes are minty and electric. Very bottom.

Thanks for understanding.

;) Wow, what a difference. I didn't even know I had a choice of backgrounds or skins as you say. I didn't understand why you couldn't read the posts, I thought maybe you had some eye condition. This is the first forum I have ever blogged on.

I did have someone in the very beginning asking me not to post bright blue on the blue skin, so I'm finding it challenging, but not impossible, to use the colors and have them work on both skins????????

Right now, I'm scrolling back on my posts to see what they look like in minty and editing them so hopefully they will be visible on both 'skins' and allow me to still highlight important points. This may take me a few hours, but I can do it.

Thank you sooooo much Myplanet2, My Bad!!!!

peaceandlove 11-23-2008 01:27 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 85296)
Well its been a long last couple of days. I guess I was fooled to think I was through the rough part. I guess you can't rush it. My lungs do feel better but I guess I just dont eat too well. I am working on that.

I also wanted to know why we had to keep taking this when you see that malaria was cleared in 4 hours. I have to say its the wonderful food we are able to afford.

I am just going one more week and see where it goes. hate it ! :shocked:

Blessings mntruthseeker,

Now I'm not sure if you're using minty or electric skin, so I don't know if you saw this post in regards especially to you and others who have the desire to correct chronic conditions, so here it is again. Please take your time, go slow, it takes some people upwards of a year to remove all the toxins, pathogens and heavy metals from their body. Especially go slow if you've had any heart condition.

Patience is a virtue and it appears the 'want it NOW generation' has been programmed by the medical profession that poor eating habits, exposure to toxins, and chronic illnesses can be healed with a pill overnight. This is not the case, it is a false reality. It is just more mind bending and brain washing to think toxic allopathic drugs can correct toxic chronic illnesses. There is no magic allopathic remedy only coverups and temporary alleviation of symptoms that result in more toxic chemicals that need to be removed from the body in order for the immune system to operate fully again. You have a long ways to go...practice patience and you will be a stronger soul for it.

You CAN do it.....BUT SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!

YEAH MNTRUTHSEEKER!

This passage seems very pertinent to some of the recent posts on this thread:

Quote:

Different Conditions

With serious acute infections or poisonings, such as with malaria Humble recommends giving immediately 15 drops followed an hour later by another 15 drops. While most conditions tend to improve with a medium-dose taken over a long period, some parasitic and viral conditions seem to require at least one high double dose to get results. It seems that with life-threatening acute conditions a high double dose can be more easily handled than with chronic conditions.

For chronic or long-standing conditions always increase the number of drops very slowly over a period of weeks. it is best to increase by 1 drop each day until you feel some nausea. The next day drop back by 2 drops and stay at this level for several days until increasing again by 1 drop a day. In this way you gradually work your way higher, reducing and then increasing again to keep nausea under control. You may reduce problems by dividing the daily dose into a morning and a bedtime portion, but after some time always try to edge higher until you start feeling the nausea. If you continue to encounter nausea whenever you raise the dose then just remain for a long time on a level that does not cause problems. Eventually nausea with vomiting or diarrhea may catch up with you anyway but it is better if that is at a high rather than a low level of MMS.

With an acute infection you may start with 3 or 4 drops and increase quite rapidly, even if this means nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. With severe parasite problems, such as malaria attack, or if one had taken a poison, or has food poisoning, or with snake bites, a high double dose of MMS will often help.
Pretty soon you won't hate it, you will be very grateful for it. Please keep a positive outlook.

Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book:
Click on ABOUT MMS scroll down about 1 page to FREE - Download on the website below:

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orionsbelt 11-23-2008 02:13 AM

Chlorine dioxide Solution -- Na Cl O2 + H2O
 
In very small doses may be helpful for killing bacteria. Like bleach or hydrogen peroxide, it can be use to improve unsanitary conditions and to kill a wide variety of organisms (in-vitro).

It can also leach minerals, potassium, lithium, etc. out of 'materials'

NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another electron-stealing 'cousin' (They rip electrons off of other atoms). In other words, all three are highly Oxidative/corrosive.

The 'supplement' is made of three elements: (Sodium, Chlorine and Oxygen + water). When combined with an acidic 'activator', you break the chemical bonds and release the Chlorine and some Oxygen into your blood and body. If you have ingested some of this solution you may Smell the Chlorine gas coming out of your pores. (Remember that the nose adapts to smells after a few minutes.)

Chlorine was the number one poison used in chemical warfare in WWII. Flourine is slightly more hazardous and could be used as well but Chlorine is much easier to produce. If you aren't getting enough Flourine in your water you can add a bit more Chlorine (not serious).

Salt water is composed of Sodium, Chlorine, Hydrogen and Oxygen. Break the NaCl ionic bonds of the salt in the water and you have Chlorine gas (Cl and Sodium ions (Na+).

Guess what will Chemically REACT quite violently with silver and many other elements? (Oxidizes Silver)
Why does one put DROPS of the Chlorine dioxide into a Glass instead of into a Metal drinking container? (It will Corrode the metal)

If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What Chlorine dioxide is or what it will do.

The electronegative properties of F, Cl and O are the highest on the Periodic Chart. (the most reactive elements on the top-right corner of the Periodic Chart - excluding the Noble Gases). If you do not understand what this means then you are not in any position to be telling others about what the "Miracle" can and cannot do. Addition studies in microbiology and organic chemistry are suggested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity

Chlorine dioxide is good for purifying water when properly utilized.

It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.

Another note: Viruses are NOT, by definition, living and they are not related to bacteria. Bacteria Are living organisms. You CANNOT KILL a virus - it is Not Alive!

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Note:
Hydrogen Peroxide does not contain any harmful Chlorine and it kills bacteria and releases oxygen when 'activated'. It can be used as a powerful water purifier. H2O2 = (Two parts Hydrogen + Two parts Oxygen --- nothing more). It does react with many metals and has some hazardous properties as well, when used improperly. H2O2 also reacts with Silver, Copper and other metals. (corrodes/oxidizes)

Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

The internet can be hazardous to your health.
Used Wisely, you can educate yourself instead of believing/trusting others who you do not know.

peaceandlove 11-23-2008 02:39 AM

Re: The 'Supplement'
 


Quote:

Originally Posted by orionsbelt (Post 85375)
It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)
NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.
If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.
The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.
It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.
Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

Blessings Orionsbelt,

Mr Jim Humble is a metallurgist, scientist and a chemist. All information I have posted here is merely quotes of his research and not derived from my education. It is also highly recommended to take minerals while ingesting MMS. If you read the research which is very time consuming, you will find answers to many of your questions/statements.

Bill Ryan also interviewed Mr. Humble yesterday and I believe that will be available on Camelot soon.

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Miracle Mineral Solution is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water. Miracle Mineral Solution is a water purification product. It is not a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. "MMS"), an important distinction must be made between Miracle Mineral Solution and the "MMS Protocol" established by chemist and metallurgist Jim Humble and detailed exhaustively in his book, "Breakthrough, the Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century". When Miracle Mineral Solution is activated such as detailed in Jim Humble's protocol (1:5 drop solution using vinegar with 5% acetic acid or greater, lemon or lime juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid), the chemical compound chlorine dioxide is produced. If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it in accordance with Jim Humble's protocol, it is advised you read Mr. Humble's book and/or study various third party resources which are made available here for your safety. Any information provided herein is for educational purposes only and is NOT meant to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.
Quote:

Biosafe: “MMS claims to be chlorine dioxide, it is not.”

Jim Humble: This is where he shows his total ignorance for chemistry. All the claims anywhere, and especially in my book say that acidified sodium chlorite generates chlorine dioxide. In the case of MMS it is generated in extremely microscopic amounts. And, of course, MMS has never claimed it is chlorine dioxide.

Now about chemistry. Chemistry is pretty well established in colleges and universities. It teaches certain principles. Most of our scientists agree with these principles of chemistry. So when Biosafe tries to beat around the bush about MMS and says it isn’t producing chlorine dioxide then he simply doesn’t understand chemistry. Let me make it easy. Go to Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 173.325 and you will see that even the regulations talk about making chlorine dioxide from sodium chlorite (that’s what MMS is). It’s so well known through out our society its even in the regulations. One more reference. Go to http://www.lennteck.com/water-disinf...lorine-dioxide. There you can learn a lot about chlorine dioxide for use in industry. But the important thing you can learn is that it is generated from sodium chlorite (MMS) with addition of acids. I can’t say biosafe is deliberately lying, he probably just can’t get the technology down straight in his mind.

But when you are reading about it, you must understand that I never said that MMS is chlorine dioxide when acidified. I said many places, MMS generates up to 1 mg of chlorine dioxide per hour when in the body and up to 3 milligrams when the acid is first added to it. Does that sound like I’m saying MMS is chlorine dioxide. It generates a tiny tiny amount of chlorine dioxide. That isn’t even a pin head. That is at least 1000 times less than what Biosafe is saying that I am saying.

Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book available at this authorized website:

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESEARCH and click on FREE DOWNLOAD

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Ampgod 11-23-2008 06:15 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Update here.

I decided to stop the Zovirax pills after taking 2 @ 800mg.
It didn't do anything for me at all this time. Which is interesting.
I assume the MMS quickly got rid of them out of my system as pills don't really belong there anyway.:)
I have kept on with the MMS and will get my first test soon.


Peace,
Ampgod

Ampgod 11-23-2008 06:19 AM

Re: The 'Supplement'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orionsbelt (Post 85375)
After reading all these posts about the 'Supplement' - To sit back and say Nothing in this case is Wrong.

In very very small doses may be helpful for killing bacteria.

It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)

Like Clorox/Bleach, it can be use to improve unsanitary conditions BUT, it is very TOXIC.

NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.

The so-called supplement is made of three elements: (Sodium, Chlorine and Oxygen). When combine with the acid 'activator', you break the chemical bonds and release the Chlorine and some Oxygen into your blood and body. Smell the Chlorine Gas?

Chlorine was the number One poison used in chemical warfare in WWII. (remember Gas masks?) Flourine is slightly more hazardous and could be used as well but Chlorine is much easier to produce. If you aren't getting enough Flourine in your water you can add a bit more Chlorine (not serious).

Salt water is composed of Sodium, Chlorine, Hydrogen and Oxygen. Break the NaCl bonds of the salt in the water and you have Chlorine Gas.

Guess what will Chemically REACT quite violently with silver and many other elements?
Why does one put DROPS of the MIRACLE into a Glass instead of into a Metal drinking container?

If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.

The electronegative properties of F, CL and O are the highest on the Periodic Chart. (the most reactive elements on the top-right corner of the Periodic Chart - excluding the Noble Gases). If you do not understand what this means then you are not in any position to be telling others about what the "Miracle" can and cannot do. Addition studies in microbiology and organic chemistry are suggested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity

The "Miracle" can be highly reactive and hazardous.

The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.

It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.

Another note: Viruses are NOT, by definition, living and they are not related to bacteria. Bacteria Are living organisms. You CANNOT KILL a virus - it is Not Alive!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note:
Hydrogen Peroxide does not contain any harmful Chlorine and it kills bacteria and releases oxygen when 'activated'. It can be used as a powerful water purifier. H2O2 = (Two parts Hydrogen + Two parts Oxygen --- nothing more). It does react with many metals and has some hazardous properties as well, when used improperly. H2O2 also reacts with Silver.

Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

Ignorance is Not bliss in this case.

The internet can be hazardous to your health.
It can be deadly. Used Wisely, you can educate yourself instead of living in fantasy worlds all the time. (A little scifi is fun)

Back into the woodwork.

I don't know about the fluoride issue.

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As for MMS being dangerous.
I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!!
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Could you tell us what exactly you think MMS's bad effects on the body would be?
Because I'm on heavy doses and I know how harmless & how great it is.
(if taken as directed by Jim humble)

You are welcome to contact me to arrange a visit with me in person to watch me take 18 drops, 3 times a day to see what happens. :) hahahaha

NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE SUCCESS! :)

I have also tried taking doses of colloidal silver ion in between my doses of MMS. No problems.

Chlorine & Chlorine Dioxide. Two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
To scare people with Chlorine, in regard to MMS, is a mistake.

* I think you may want to look into the MMS a bit further to understand it better.

Peace,
Ampgod

alyscat 11-23-2008 08:01 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Swanny, I've just been reading part 2 of the book, and if I'm recalling directly, the way around this is to drop back to wherever you're not nauseous, but to add an extra dosing session during the day (or for some people who are really sick, do a dosing session as much as every 2 hours, just fewer drops at a time).

later edit: oops, I see where Swanny got up to 10 drops, so this probably no longer applies to him/her. However, the information might be useful to someone else, so I won't delete.

alys

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 82927)
Its Swanny :original:
I'm stuck on 8 drops cant get past it


Swanny 11-23-2008 09:15 AM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Thx alyscat :original:
I'm taking the day off today :thumb_yello:

Ampgod 11-23-2008 03:06 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce (Post 85177)
Ampgod,
Not sure where you've got to with the virus killing etc... but I remember Dr Bob Beck mentioning wart viruses hiding outside of the blood stream. This was why he used the magnetic pulse section of his protocol to shock the viruses out of the spinal columns and glands etc where they lie dormant and out of he blood flow (so it wasn't able to be zapped by his blood zapper).

Sorry for off topic nature and laterness to the thread :) I assme I should get myself some MMS and catch up ;)


I have tried using the pulser for about 2 weeks on my spine and all the other spots recommended before using MMS. It was just to small and took too long to be convienient for me. I noticed it did tend to make the virus come out a little so it does work to chase them out from hidding. I may try that again later to help out. I want to get a test first. Maybe next week, to see where im at. If it's still there I may try the pulser along with the MMS together.

I found that the pulsing method was too time consuming and to small.
I feel, for that method, you would need more of a full body chamber to be practical.

But for now, I'll just stick to the MMS as directed by J. Humble and see what happens. Thanks for the info. :)

Ampgod

mntruthseeker 11-23-2008 05:10 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Ok I did quit taking the mms last night. I am back on colloidal silver and will stay with this now. I know that the mms helped me tremendously but I can't take "sick".

I have absolutely no pain and if my system is NOT cleaned now it never will be. I am happy with that.

I did want to say that when I made my silver this morning, I added mms into the water and boy was that good. It was the best water I have had in ages. It wasn't even cold yet. I have two pitchers that I use to purify my water and then one container to put the water in for cooking.

so this little coward is signing off mms treatment but found another use of it. I'm sure if I had cancer or something like that, there would be no doubt that this would be what I would use.

peaceandlove 11-23-2008 07:48 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
Blessings mntruthseeker,

Have you considered taking one drop twice per day or 1/2 drop twice per day? It sounded like you were receiving results. Did you reduce the drops when you experienced nausea? There's no need to speed through the process. Have you looked at post #310 on this page? Wishing you success with whichever modality you choose.

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Click on MMS Protocol for following information.

Quote:

1. All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with half a drop drop. Activate the drops as given above.

2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous.

mntruthseeker 11-23-2008 08:59 PM

Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.
 
I may just wait before going back on the mms. I think that I will stick with the colloidal and see where we are in three to four months. :original:

Why put myself through hell :nono::nono:

I feel good and I'm sure I did alot of good with just the time I used it. I know my sewer system feels cleaner:lol3:


Thanks for caring Peace & Love you are a sweetie:wink2:


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