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Real 12-13-2009 10:41 AM

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Hi Bill,

I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

There is a very popular video on youtube (viewed by 5 million now) which shows a video of crop circles and communicates an alleged message from the stars in binary code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k
The message is along the lines of "Beware the bearers of the false persons and broken promises. Much pain but there is still time, believe there is still good out there. We oppose decipt. The conduit is closing."

If you have any information on the validity of this I would be interested. I am particularly curious about what the conduit may be...

I reitterate the multitude of thanks and good wishes others have sent to you and Kerry for your endless work on the infinitely complex situation here on Earth.

Lionhawk 12-13-2009 10:44 AM

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Greetings Bill.

Question #1
Could you reveal to us any inside information you may have in regards to where all the kids are going above and beyond what Alex Collier has stated in public?

Question #2
Based on what intelligence that you have gathered, do you foresee a possible scenario where humanity might get caught in the middle of an invasion by the Dows and also a battle between them and the Draconians?

Question #3
What is the real truth as to why the Light Warrior forum is being created?

Question #4
What kind of security issues do you deal with and how can we assist you and Kerry in those regards? Also since I signed up on this forum, I have to question if our IP addresses are safe since I have had numerous attacks including scaler waves? I ask that as I do not know who else to ask that, that would have the integrity here to answer that truthfully. Because in my mind something fishy is happening there as where I am only going by what has occurred. Also note that I am not the only one who has experienced this on this forum.

Just know you are very much appreciated with all of your efforts and Kerry's too. I really do appreciate the "balance" you bring to the table. I think that is about all that I will be allowed to say.

Blessings

Lily de Cuir 12-13-2009 10:58 AM

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Hi Bill + Kerry,

I am new here on this forum. Stumbling around here....lol. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Discovered PC over a year ago and have just about listened to all interviews now - some 2 or 3 times. Changed my life. Thank you for that. You will not remember but I emailed you some time ago that I listen to all your interviews on my iPod while cleaning dunnies downunder....no joke! My clients have no idea what I'm listening to! Cracks me up.

Wow, over 30,000 posts, what have you let yourself in for?

I make small donations to you where I can. I promise if I ever come into some money, one of my first stops will be to send a 'goodly sized' donation to PC. Really admire both of you tremendously, admire your energy, faith and integrity.

PS: Don't do the merchandising hat thing! We like you just the way you are - barefoot, humble and ordinary and yet extraordinary - just like us!

No questions or requests, just keep on what you're doing - digging to unearth the truth.

Much appreciation and respect to you both.

Lily de Cuir

Gnosis5 12-13-2009 11:12 AM

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Hello Bill, and anyone who might have some insight:

There is a series of messages from the Galactic Federation here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6Gf...eature=channel

I never paid much attention to the Galactic Federation (I hate wearing uniforms) until a few days ago it appears myself and my associate are getting messages from someone who appears to be on one of the Galactic Federation ships.

Of course that did get my attention and it appears I do have a mission regarding civilization on this planet.

The reason I ask you Bill is that in your interview of Dane (the ex-scientologist) there was a brief mention of the Galactic Patrol. Are they the same group or a different group...and have you or anyone else had any contact with either of this group.....


best,
Gnosis

kriya 12-13-2009 11:17 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Real (Post 198788)
Hi Bill,

I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

There is a very popular video on youtube (viewed by 5 million now) which shows a video of crop circles and communicates an alleged message from the stars in binary code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k
The message is along the lines of "Beware the bearers of the false persons and broken promises. Much pain but there is still time, believe there is still good out there. We oppose decipt. The conduit is closing."

If you have any information on the validity of this I would be interested. I am particularly curious about what the conduit may be...


Hi Real,

I don't wish to detract from this thread and lets not have a discussion about here, if you want PM me. I'm not sure if Bill is aware of this but Colin Andrews believes that that message is a hoax as when it appeared the movie Signs was released and he believes it was a media stunt.

I reitterate the multitude of thanks and good wishes others have sent to you and Kerry for your endless work on the infinitely complex situation here on Earth.

Hi Real,

I don't wish to detract from this thread and lets not have a discussion about here, if you want PM me. I'm not sure if Bill is aware of this but Colin Andrews believes that that message is a hoax as when it appeared the movie Signs with Mel Gibson was released and he believes it was a media stunt to drum up business.

Seashore 12-13-2009 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198769)
I can see this thread growing to monstrous proportions (if I can keep this up every day!) and so it's going to get more and more difficult with questions being asked which have already been answered - and responses to answers which have been missed or misread with all the good intentions in the world.

I have a suggestion for members who are thinking about posting a new question to the thread, but have not been following the progress of the thread, don't know whether the question has already been asked, and don't have the patience to read to find out...

Pick a keyword from the potential question, go to each page of the thread, and hit control - F (for find) to search for the keyword.

Odiwan 12-13-2009 11:43 AM

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Hi Bill,
First post, just wanted to congratulate you and Kerry on doing such an amazing job.

I was wondering if you had any plans to interview Dolores Cannon? I have recently come across her work and find it very informative.

I was also wondering if PC had any plans to visit Australia again? I would love to see you guys in person (and I am sure that I am not alone there).

And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction.... your Freedom Central interview was great, but I would love to hear more, particularly about your "software upgrade":thumb_yello:

Aztar 12-13-2009 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198769)
Hi, All:

* The subtle points I mentioned about the importance of the several major Greer changes since 2001 - all taken together to generate a major question (the answer to which, in my view and that of many others, is clear) haven't been commented on by anyone as far as I can see.

I surmise the subtle point made obvious is that Dr Steven Greer has been genetically manipulated with Draconian Genes and mentally reprogrammed or a substitute cloned biological unit has been placed in place of the post 2001 Dr Steven Greer or perhaps just a mind wipe & reprogram.

Of course to substantiate this claim beyond "Hey doesn't Greer remind you of a Reptilian in action & appearance" would require actual hard facts & evidence which any skeptical mind would require before making this leap.

kriya 12-13-2009 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Odiwan (Post 198821)
Hi Bill,


And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction.... your Freedom Central interview was great, but I would love to hear more, particularly about your "software upgrade":thumb_yello:

Yes Bill I have to agree.

Your interview with Freedom Central about your abduction was very brief.

Care to elaborate?

Love,

Kriya

Lionhawk 12-13-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Ryan http://projectavalon.net/forum/elect...s/viewpost.gif
Hi, All:

* The subtle points I mentioned about the importance of the several major Greer changes since 2001 - all taken together to generate a major question (the answer to which, in my view and that of many others, is clear) haven't been commented on by anyone as far as I can see.


Sorry Bill, as I did comment on that but it was deleted and that is why you do not see it. Also note I did not do the deleting and there was nothing I said in that post that was offensive, so I'm a little puzzled by that. The only thing I can figure is that I didn't pose you a question and that is why it was deleted.

viking 12-13-2009 12:01 PM

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Hi Bill ...I bet your thinking 'jeeeze wish I never started this' :naughty:

Hey, I wish I had the time to do what your doing...

Anyway I have a question and was wondering if you had any further information as to why George Green suddenly pulled out of involvement with the Phoenix Journels and started the Paradigm series.Which incidently are amazing books. Some of the messages contained within the Paradigm are replicated in the Journels. So it's obvious that some of his info has been stored via the Journels and released through his own series of books. I believe that most of the information has been channeled form higher forces as I am sure you do as well.

So do you know why he left promoting the Journels to do his own series??

Also in answer to one of your statements....

Do you think Greer is a clone???

viking

Bill Ryan 12-13-2009 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IMU (Post 198472)
Have you heard anything about Clifford Stone and Jim Sparks recently?
What is your opinion about Whitley Strieber?

We've heard nothing recently from Clifford or from Jim. Clifford is a lovely man and we are so delighted we met with him. He's fairly reclusive and is not on e-mail.

We read Whitley's site and he has some very interesting stuff there. I very much appreciate his take on parallel timelines and alternate realities. I'm as sure as I can be that that's all valid and real - and is very hard stuff to talk about and present. We've never met him personally. I suspect we'd have a lot to share with one another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum (Post 198480)
How do you view the relevance of suppressed Free Energy technology in the mix of Project Camelot's information disclosing mission?

Free Energy (as far as a functioning device is concerned) is still dangerous. Talking about it is one thing - having a device is another. Wade Frazier confirmed to us that the PTB have some way of remotely detecting free energy devices when they're operating (wherever they are), enabling them to close in on the person immediately.

It's a little like the issue of 'proving' what we say. As I've said and written elsewhere (in the Freedom Central interview, most recently) one of the things that keeps us safe is that we don't try to prove anything won the Camelot site. We don't have definitive proof anyway (in the form of photos, documents or artifacts) - but if we did, we'd soon be in trouble.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloper (Post 198501)
Maybe somehow I have missed it, but have you ever talked about your abduction experience in more detail Bill?

On the Freedom Central interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Ryan_...om_Central.mp3

and also in our interview with Arjan Bos:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0DqS7W4UUwE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 198503)
Bill,

This is news to me. I'm not familiar with Ott's list. Does he have a blog? Or is this information available to everyone?

My inaccuracy - not a list per se. It was part of a long discussion with quite a number of people cc'd. Ott quoted the Rense smear piece and wrote (addressed to Tim White)

"Did you write this? It is an excellent exposé."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phtha (Post 198505)
Kerry mentioned that she has a copies of a few books, Scientologie, and The Factors. Any way of getting these online assuming they are digital form?

Everything that Hubbard ever said or wrote is archived on a Russian server:

http://lrh.myftp.org

I was one of the co-ordinators of a project several years ago that converted everything that Hubbard had ever said or written to digital form so that it was out of the control of Church of Scientology copyright.

The site we had was closed down by Church of Scientology lawyers but by then the material was all released. That cat can't be put back in the bag. It was what Hubbard would have wanted - he quoted that all his written material should always be free.

*******

More later (probably tomorrow) - B

Oliver 12-13-2009 12:20 PM

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Hello Bill,
Quoting you: 3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.

Bill, can you please give us some examples of information from Astralwalker that is "valid and interesting" as well as some that are "less so".

Second question: Do you have any info about Obama being introduced to ET stuff?

Thank you

Steven 12-13-2009 12:28 PM

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Here is an old post I made on Steven Greer thread;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 163304)
...He is not the same Steven Greer we knew with disclosure project. He has touched a very sensitive nerve in 2001. He got in touch with elite's puppets. He did not come back intact.

Or he has been threatened, or he has been implanted, or he is partially mentally controlled, or something else occurred that made him invite people in a dangerous direction. It might be a compound of all these suppositions. He might not be aware of that control himself.

I would really like to see someone asking him WHY he has called one of his new project; ORION project?

My take is that they are laughing at us how easy they can manipulate Hu-manity. They can manipulate a part of us, but not the divinity in us. This, in order to take total control has to be shut down. The good news is that instead of being shut down, it is waking up...

I still think the same today...

Namaste, Steven

GoingToFast 12-13-2009 12:44 PM

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Deleted by moderators...........

Bill Ryan 12-13-2009 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ixopoborn (Post 198530)
What should an "experienced novice" like me do next?

Be skeptical, curious, and open-minded :)

Don't rush to judgment or conclusion too fast... reality is VERY complicated. Always be ready to be quite wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 198583)
I was a really big fan of Jordan Maxwell until I saw this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ent=firefox-a# which completely debunks him.

I've downloaded it and will watch this. I've already noticed some items of criticism in that video which in my opinion are definitely NOT valid. I'll report back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWIFT (Post 198601)
Q.1 Is their anychance of PC doing an update interview with Mr Richard Hoagland and Professor Farrell (2010)?

Q.2 Furthermore, Author Professor Michio Kaku and Author Mr Richard Phillips of "Second Ship " (2009) for 2010?

Q.3 Bill do you think ETs are abducting humans for resources or is it a coverstory for mind control operations instead by big brother ?

1) Maybe by audio sometime - video is challenging (I'd need to be there, and logistics are a problem)

2) Would love to talk to Michio Kaku sometime. I was NOT familiar with Richard Phillips, just looked him up, and am interested now :)

3) Abductions: there may be all kinds of agendas. Some MILABs (military abductions) do seem to be very real. Some abductions may well be nefarious (intention to control or monitor for whatever anti-human or non-human purpose). Some I believe are benevolently intended and function as hardware and/or software 'upgrades'. The subject is a minefield and is far from simple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztar (Post 198614)
How about an Interview with Nassim Haramein?

Would be delighted to talk with him also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by franciejones (Post 198643)
Seashore....I remember this conversation on a thread and I was the one who responded. Clif never said he was a paid CIA agent. He said Deagle was a nonstarter..to say I am upset that you made the wrong claim is quite the understatement. And I am checking to find out if Clif EVER had a PI check out Deagle which I am quite sure is more false information posted here. I will report back as soon as I get an answer

Hello, Francie: I learned this from Clif myself in an e-mail dated 14 April this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1love (Post 198681)
Bill, I know that David Wilcock did a presentation mentioning the pineal gland in the brain and how there was much symbolism of it in antiquity but have you read The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rich Strassmen? He's one of the only researchers to experiment with DMT

I'm very wary of the use of drugs and do not endorse it.

Read The Master Game by Robert S DeRopp.

The thesis of this classic book (brief summary) is that a powerful and positive drug experience can be useful to show what is possible in terms of human mind-expansion and perception. BUT ONCE ONLY. After that, use non-drug techniques (and there are many).

The first drug experience is often always the most powerful. If one tries to repeat that endlessly, the effects usually are less and less and one gets psychologically hooked, always chasing one's own tail in a diminishing spiral of frustrating experience. It can be a trap.

TheChosen 12-13-2009 12:50 PM

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Excellent information about the Anunnaki Bill .. keep it rolling out :). Finally things are going to the heart of the matter. I've been in touch with a person who is in direct contact with some of the Anunnaki (well over 2 years ago) and what you've said so far completely corroborates with the information that this person has shared. I am a bit hesitant posting even this little much here as they do indeed don't like being messed with and like keeping a lot of things secret. I'd love to share more details but I feel its not yet the time to do so.

Some more questions:

1) Have you heard about Moldavite? An ancient stone that came from space.. There is a lot of new age stuff about it on the internet so I can speak only from personal experience. My personal information is that it is indeed a very powerful channel with direct connections to the Anunnaki. Belonged perhaps to a former moon.. Have you heard anything on this topic?

2) Connections between Avalon (the whole area and myth) and the Anunnaki. What is your take or information?

Aztar 12-13-2009 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoingToFast (Post 198837)


(lets see if this post also gets deleted)

Guaranteed
Don't let the door hit you on the way out :wink2:

Hey Bill

Have you ever been in contact with Dan Winter?
good info here: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc..._new_nowy.avi#

SWIFT 12-13-2009 12:52 PM

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Hi goingtofast,
Hey cut out the negative vibes :shocked:and respect for everyone:original: . You will spoil it for all the PC members new and old:thumbdown:. Move the thread on.

Peace:thumb_yello:
Swift

Seashore 12-13-2009 01:10 PM

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Bill,

Thank you for your gracious, patient replies on this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 198503)
Bill,

This is news to me. I'm not familiar with Ott's list. Does he have a blog? Or is this information available to everyone?

I remember Rense posting the article that must have come from Burisch's camp. And I have thought that Rense thought the article was really about the Army's Project Camelot...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198828)

My inaccuracy - not a list per se. It was part of a long discussion with quite a number of people cc'd. Ott quoted the Rense smear piece and wrote (addressed to Tim White)

"Did you write this? It is an excellent exposé."


  1. Is it possible that Rense thought the article in question was actually about the Army's Project Camelot? Thus, it would not be a smear piece at all?
  2. Who is Tim White? Do I have the capability to view the email in question?

Firstlook 12-13-2009 01:13 PM

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Hello Bill,

Is there any specific direction you and Kerry are interested in taking Camelot? Meaning, With all the wide area you two cover, is there a point where you feel it would be easier to focus on certain issues more then others? I ask this because you two do so much work and I worry about it sometimes. lol.

Anyways, Keep it up. I Feel connected very strongly to your efforts.

WarriorServant 12-13-2009 01:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198769)
I can see this thread growing to monstrous proportions (if I can keep this up every day!) and so it's going to get more and more difficult with questions being asked which have already been answered - and responses to answers which have been missed or misread with all the good intentions in the world.

Here is my logical suggestion:

One thread is not suitable for all the information and "branches of information". You need a "forum section" of your own, where you can post information regarding various topics. This forum section should be set to "reply only" (and there are settings for that in the administration area of this forum). A reply only forum means that members do not even have the option to create new topics in that section. They can only respond to existing topics, created by "yourself". That way you can post information in the most appropriate thread, that you have created "for" the information.

To keep member to member banter to a minimum (and I see that your thread is full of it), members can post questions in the topic that you have created, but should be restricted from conversing with "each other" (exceptions would be made for "crucial" information such as "corrections". If it's not crucial, and just a personal comment - it gets deleted. People will soon get the idea.). ie: There's a whole forum with dozens of sections for members to talk with "each other" should they choose to do so -- and they should do it there. That way, you you have all the information in the appropriate sections (which is easier to find and refer to), people are able to ask questions, you are able to respond, everything is much faster and more efficient.

edit:

I would like to add that I am a full time web developer, programmer and web administrator by profession, and have built and run literally hundreds of forums over the last decade. I am well accustomed to forum behavior and how to moderate and deal with problems (which is why I am always flapping my arms around this place). What I have suggested may seem difficult at first glance, but due to my experience, I must insist that my suggestions will cause everything run more efficiently. The first objection that I think might cross your mind is: "Oh but it would all be too messy having different threads to monitor". I would suggest that the case would be quite the contrary. As the information grows, it's going to be hard to go back through a single thread full of dozens (hundreds?) of topics that's hundreds of pages long. It will be much more beneficial for not only yourself (to be able to go back to find / edit / correct / amend information), but also for people that haven't kept up with everything and are interested in a particular topic -- and want to read it without having to wade through pages and pages of unrelated material and banter.

100thmonkey 12-13-2009 01:51 PM

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Maybe mods, or a volounteer, could simply compile a list of people's questions from this thread into one Sticky thread that Bill can then come along when he has a spare moment and answer, bang, bang, bang...?

chnswam 12-13-2009 02:07 PM

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Hey Bill,

Many thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.
:)

Steven 12-13-2009 02:08 PM

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Hello again :naughty:. To Bill and Kerry,

I don't know if it was said before, but your presence on Avalon is very much appreciated and useful. The fact we can enter directly in contact with you shows integrity, respect and dedication. You care about the "listeners". It does a tremendous work of clarification that will certainly show up in future threads.

The period of time you were "away" from the forum, you were missed and the forum did loose a portion of its energy. We are friends with other "roles" in this game. I am, and many here are, committed to inform the ones in our path to take a look at your "interviews" among others. I even translated some in real time for a small audience.

I know your time is rare and precious. I got the same kind of schedule on my hands. Nevertheless, if you guys show only for a post or two regularly just to keep in touch with the community, it would help to improve our cohesion as a group :thumb_yello:.

Namaste, Steven

Seashore 12-13-2009 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 198855)
members can post questions in the topic that you have created

WarriorServant,

You are suggesting that the ability for members to initiate a question to Bill Ryan be taken away?

WarriorServant 12-13-2009 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 198877)
WarriorServant,

You are suggesting that the ability for members to initiate a question to Bill Ryan be taken away?

No -- what I am suggesting is a more functional and easy to follow method of Bill being able to communicate with the forum and for that information to be more adequately directed. There's no reason that this thread couldn't stay operational (ie: be moved to the section that I have suggested), where people can ask direct questions that do not relate to actual topics / updates / announcements that Bill would have made in the appropriate threads. Additionally, people would be able to ask specific questions on "actual" subjects, in an easy to find area that is full of other related information on such a topic.

I am rather certain that most people will not follow the entirety of a singular thread full of "everything and anything" (even though some are). This is a powerful forum software -- there's no reason why Bill should be communicating as if he were on a glorified shoutbox. It would also be a lot Easier for Bill, because in his CP, all new responses would be listed. He would also be able to remember, more efficiently which information is where, because it would all be titled under threads that he personally created and named.

WarriorServant 12-13-2009 02:54 PM

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I would like to comment further on this (said by myself above).

Quote:

They can only respond to existing topics, created by "yourself". That way you can post information in the most appropriate thread, that you have created "for" the information.
This would give you the ability to create a new thread if you perceive that 1). The same question keeps coming up 2). You know of information that is going to become popular (ie: you're going to get questions about it, and you "know" it) 3). Information that you specifically "want" questions for 4). Specific information that you "want" more feedback from.

It would allow you to easily dissect and organize the information / questions / feedback into areas that you can visit at both your leisure and by priority of importance. Moderators would also be able to move questions from thread to thread, if they perceive that they are in the wrong place. This further allows you to concentrate on one thing at a time, instead of everything at once.

Majorion 12-13-2009 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198784)
We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more)

I'm just dying to know if you'll ever interview this most interesting person. What a shame.

Best of luck on that one, I can't wait!

qbeac 12-13-2009 04:01 PM

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Questions:

- Please, Bill, do you know where we could get the “original” Ron Hubbard’s material (texts, technics, etc.), but not the newer, altered and "watered down" one?

- If so, could you post the links to Ron Hubbard’s “original” material in this thread or in the Project Camelot web site (*1)? That would be a good reference point for people to find it.

(*1) Sorry, Bill, I did not see your comment on Post 292, pag. 12. In any case, the link you indicated from a Russian server does not seem to work, this one:

http://lrh.myftp.org/

Bill, do you know of any other link with the “original” Hubbard material? Is it available in E-mule, Ares, etc.?

- Are there still active groups of people who follow-practice the “original” Ron Hubbard’s findings? If so, is it possible to contact them? (*2)

(*2) Second thought: In case there are active groups, are they still being persecuted by the PTB? If so, I imagine they might not want to identify themselves. So, is it possible to practice Hubbard’s findings all by ourselves just by reading his instructions and without the help of “teachers”?

- Would it be possible to somehow “reactivate” Ron Hubbard’s “original” project to wake the world up (I mean before his project was neutralized-destroyed by the PTB)?
---------------------

Dear Bill, thanks for all your replies, we really appreciate it.

I’ve almost finished reading (it’s long) your interview with “Dane Tops”, where he explains the amazing adventures of Ron Hubbard (from the original Church of Scientology) trying to escape from the constant attack of the PTB as well as the impressive discoveries he made in relation to human consciousness, recovery of all our lost memory, astral travelling, healing, etc.

The interview is impressive, it is one of the best ones. And if what Dane Top says is true, it could change the world for the better (let’s hope so).

I encourage everybody to read it, it’s a must read! So, I congratulate you and Kerry for it. Well done. This is the link:

An interview with 'Dane Tops':
The man who blew the Church of Scientology wide open

http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html

MaikaNz 12-13-2009 04:45 PM

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This looks like a front for another scamtology recruiting drive.

www.xenutv.com

L. Ronald Hubbard Jr (aka Ronald Edward DeWolf) also had this to say, 'My father only knew how to do one thing; that was destroy them [people who oppose him]', and 'I can say flat that 99 percent of what my father wrote about his own life is false.'

Gerry Armstrong is one of the most important people in Scientology’s history. As L. Ron Hubbard’s personal archivist, he unleashed the documented evidence that shows Hubbard lied about virtually every aspect of his life.


I'm watching you Ryan

-Anonymous (We the People)

ypestis 12-13-2009 04:48 PM

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Hi Bill,

First my gratitude to you and Kerry for running Project Camelot.

I would like to quote something from Keylontic Science of Ashayana Deane about Free Energy..

"IN a nutshell, all forms of electrical current on thisplanet make use
of the distorted electrons and EM feild generated on this planet by
the 'Caduceous' implant network', also known as the 'death seal'.

so called 'free energy' technologies that are coming as bleed through
from the UFO scene and related 'inspired' physics are black hole
technologies, the EM feilds they produce are shona feilds and are
extremely detrimental to Organic Environment and life forms.

Dont be fooled- official disclosure- for whatever spurious reason
would not be a good thing at this time...."


Now I have been researching this subject and couldn't find any evidence in the keylontic science yet that there is a way for making free energy devices that are positive.

So my question is what do you hear from your whistleblower physicists about the harmfullness of free energy "magnetic" motor devices.

Thank you

MaikaNz 12-13-2009 05:08 PM

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For those wanting to know about scientology, its practices, its policies, its victims and finally about the tyrant of a conman that founded it, head to...

http://www.xenu-directory.net/


I lost a childhood friend of 20 years to this cult. I watched her change from a beautiful, caring and loving woman to a glazed eyed fanatic that exploded at me for asking her to do some background research on scientology. Unfortunately the indoctrination and brainwashing had settled in. She had disconnected from me.

Disconnection is the Scientologist practice of severing ties between a Church of Scientology member and the friends, colleagues, and family members who disapprove of, or criticize Scientology practices; that is, "sources of disinformation (entheta)", or Potential Trouble Sources (PTS), or Suppressive Persons (SP), that interfere with their progress in the organization. The practice was said to have ended in 1969 and then reinstated in 1983.

At least I'm not a victim of the 'Fair Game' policy.

MaikaNz 12-13-2009 05:20 PM

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Hiya everyone,

I have been lurking around the forum since late 2008, taking in information, resonating with some theories and philosophies and generally just smelling the roses, but when this scientology topic came up and had to step in and say something as it is a heart wrenching experience for me. Please don't be fooled. Educate yourselves from the websites that I have provided.

Dougall 12-13-2009 05:37 PM

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Hey Bill - I am totally hooked on Project Camelot however I don't believe much if any of the ideas or material that are put forth by the Project.
Its so funny because I check the site every day and I'm like a pig in slop every time you and Kerry post a new vid or audio.
One thing I am sure of is that the U.S. Military and others are way more advanced than what is commonly believed.
My question is this, Do you think that Project Camelot has many fans like myself who do not believe in Humans on Mars etc however can't get enough of the jazz? Something about it is very compelling.
Keep up the good work!

Flying Pyramid 12-13-2009 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198784)
Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID. :)

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.


Hi Bill thank you for repling.
And i am very glad to see the forum is free again and that you are active as ever. ;)

Yeah i can only imagine the ocean of e-mails to look through from all types of people. I am not sure what e-mail address to contact you at so i will try a p.m. through here and an e-mail at ProjectCamelot.
If you have a better address for me to contact you through please p.m. it to me.

I also am very interested in seeing/hearing the majestic interview.
Montauk, Majestic, Project Talent, Project MK-Ultra, Treasure Island, and alot of other places, people, and "things" are apart of my life and i am hopelessly attracted to finding more like myself.

God Bless Bill & Kerry
(p.s. does is Kerry still involved with Avalon?)

GaiaLove 12-13-2009 06:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Landulous (Post 197057)
Hi Bill & Kerry.
I registered a while back, but went through bankrupty and could not pay.
But now that it is free, I am registered as Landulous the planet I come from as a Starseed, by people are welcome to call me Scouter John or John.

Question:

1. Is there any way to load a file, specifically Omini Page 15 (I beileve it is spelt that way.) I would be loading on 2 files containing a 2 books that I feel are very important information to get out. It is about spirituality not UFOs or Free energy. So is this possible. I do not think it is. I don't think the forum is set up that way. They are also large files because they are the whole book.

2. Is there any way to load a few audio files, likely large too. Again about spirituality?

It would be nice to share these files if possible. But I am pretty sure the forum does not work that way.
John

Landulous I can help you there, I will send you a private message later with more information. I and others are currently rebuilding the Library of Avalon and your files will more than a welcome addition.


I will be in touch soon

shanonatime 12-13-2009 06:31 PM

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thanks Bill for everything. always.

s

robyn 12-13-2009 06:43 PM

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Hi Bill, Thanks for all your replies, all are concise and valuable.

My question is about your very early post re Hudden Hand and an insider that said that the info was about 90% true. I would be very interested in hearing more about this. Do you plan to have the interview or material soon?

Thank you so much,
robyn

robyn 12-13-2009 06:45 PM

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My suggestion re this thread is that ALL posts be questions to Bill and all COMMENTS, unless they contain further questions, be PMed to each other.

Cheers,
robyn


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