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mntruthseeker- My involvement with Rep, greys and Nordics has only been positive as far as I really *know*. But it seems so complicated because there are human factors involved as well- I no longer live near Montauk (I grew up near there and there's a lot I can share but that's where it gets weird because it becomes a jumble- hard to explain because there are definite human factors involved and it really is bizarre from my limited perspective as to what really went on).

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Yes, I know that millitary is involved myself From what I have seen they want complete absolution for all that has transpired along with those in our government and the big corporations prior to the disclosure. It is so interesting now to see that Obama has been meeting with the united nations regarding all of this since last Feb behind closed doors. So many dots are being connected

I hate what they have done to all involved ! It has to be devestating to undergo such experiences

My friends contact were all positive also and occured after a NDE. I have heard many stories regarding this and abductees.

When I have read your postings, I gathered that yours were not negative at all.

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Well eleni... I'm once again in a state of confusion with regard to the reptilians. I suspect there are different types/races among them as well, possibly similar to the different human races.

My statement includes your experience, Kinsuemei2's account, Jim Sparks, other abductees I know and Credo Mutwa. Basically, all of you have had different types of experiences with the reptilians. Some beneficial and some not so good.

Is this what you saw? http://brucedmitchell.com/sitebuilde...es/Reptoid.jpg


Here are some interesting links.

http://forgetomori.com/wp-content/up...inosauroid.gif

http://productions.caffix.org.mx/reptiles-2da-parte

http://productions.caffix.org.mx/wp-...dEncounter.jpg

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Carol- in the first picture the face is not quite the same as what I encountered- the latter two pics- the body is a bit too slight as the one I had encounter with-
being I encountered was a multi hued earth tones/green with cream color- very massive in size and muscular. The last two pics are too *streamlined* the being was more *primal* looking than last two and the first one is more accurate but still not what I encountered. I have shared a little about it but it entered my mouth and from there I had a full on kundalini experience and with that was downloaded a bunch of information. Experience was overwhelming but positive in the end........I felt as though I entered another realm (which I already was in due to aya) that was very primal- and literally changed my core......if that makes sense. I just clicked on the link to get a better look- lips/nose off- that almost looks like a hybrid rep- mixed with Simian.....to me anyway...rep did not have lips like that nor nose like that......

mntruthseeker- can you point me in direction of Obama info regarding this? I've just heard bits and pieces from Wilcock etc;

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Eleni

The gist of Obama is being put into chanelled messages. see the thread for The New Message from Mathew I heard it on 3 different videos on you tube ( I would have to re-locate ) Also on this thread posted on P/A

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2...fe-is-imminent

For what its worth............its been popping up alot lately even on a cliff high interview I just heard dated 10/16

so this message is circulating thats for sure...........hmmmmm

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Eleni, it makes perfect sense. When one touches or is touched by an interdimensional being, ones conscious awareness resonates at the frequency of the being they are in contact with.

You are indeed a person with many rich experiences. As for the Military experience, the sequence of events surrounding the brain washing that the children go through (as also described by Andrew Basiago) is enough to make anyone lose their memory. However, memory does begin to return in fragments after about a period of 20 years. With a good hypnotherapist it can return much more quickly. The problem is... with many abductees - remembering fills in the holes but then they most often have to deal with the Post Traumatic Stress (PTS), if they were not indoctrinated (Stockholm effect) and continue to be taken and abused against their will.

I've observed PTS when the abductee knows they are being abducted but have no memory. Knowing can be very traumatic as well... it takes time to integrate the experience (which can be done by activating ones creative process to retell the story of what happened to them through art, music, sculpture, journal dialoguing, writing.. etc.). The biggest handicap most abductees have, when in the memory recovering phase of their healing process is fighting against the grey's and/or military's mind programming indoctrination - "not to tell."

For a compulsive truth teller... that kind of stuff doesn't work well on certain personalities (A. Basiago for example).

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Dr Steven Greer is going to be on The Veritas Show tonight and I hope I get there on time. I do want to hear him once again.

Carol One of those ETs in the picture may very well be what is being described as the praying mantis (it looks like one to me ) I'm quite taken back by it tall and thin and insect looking as described

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Yes, thank you for mentioning this T as he is on for the first hour and for members the chat that Andrew Basiago shared with members is the second half available to members only. I subscribe to 3 radio websites. Mels, CoasttoCoast and Red Ice. All have excellent guests.

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Truthseeker-thank you for that. Yes, I have a Veritas subscription so am eager to hear Greer tonight or whenever I get the time.

Yes, saw the Matthew thread- again thank you.

Carol- yes there is PTS involved- mine is human based though as far as I am aware although some weird stuff did take place in Long Island.

Jacqui- I agree and I did recognize that Surpriem has been manipulated DNA wise- you can tell by the eyes (no, not the photo- shopped blue eyes).

Preston (Nichols) told me that some of us (males and females used at Montauk) were altered/programmed for an upcoming space war.

I (and others) have opted out of fighting a war against whomever- I can only hope to be strong enough and not be *animated* to *wake up* even if it is to fight the dark side.....

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That's interesting you mentioned that eleni as Cliff High said the name space war was popping up in the webbots and expect to hear more about it.

Here is an interesting link.

The Alien Jigsaw - true experiences of alien abduction

http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/...onPartFour.htm

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Yes, am only relaying info Preston told me way before I heard that on Red Ice and Veritas interview with Clif- I was surprised to hear that too because aside from the harnessing of sexual energy that went on at Montauk (and other places like SRI) I wanted to know what the female role is in all of this- that is what he told me (exact words- space war).
Then Kerry mentioned 2 upcoming planned space wars- reading the Supriem info gave more insight etc;

"According to Thule, when Nibiru comes closer to Earth, great turmoil will apparently occur with pole
shifts, earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters, and many people on the planet will die in the
process, and on top of that the Anunnaki and the Reptoids will fight against the Lemurians, unless the
latter have come to their senses, but Thule members say they still have great hope for those who
survive these rough times, as a new better world will grow from the "ashes" of the old one -- a world
without tyranny, like in the legend of the Phoenix. One Thule member said to me:
The Battle of Armageddon and the opening of the Stargate are necessary to end this cycle in
Earth’s history. It’s the Mayan Calendar coming to an end – a 432,000 years cycle ending
with the Last Battle. Then, the end becomes the beginning and history starts all over again
from the beginning. This means that life on this planet is a 432,000 years cycle that repeats
itself over and over. "

Yes, thank you- have read Karla Turner and Kay's info recently.

Edited to add:I am in no way buying into the Supriem tale other than Wes Penre's excellent research in connection with Thule etc;
It's been said elsewhere that the PTB want to fulfill biblical prophecy and indeed Surpriem may be a genetically tampered egomaniacal pawn unaware that even he too is being used......I find the pictures a joke - Elsa does not look like the modern woman in any way, Prescott looks like some Horror movie actor, Hathor looks nothing like the ancient one etc; etc; except Surpriems eyes look like Duncan O's (tampered DNA/robotic) and looks nothing like Ra...

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it's interesting that the discusion has returned to DNA.. my reptilain guide has been talking about the DNA from the very beginning of her and my connection.
There are some born with the triple helix but others, through thier own light work and awakening are reforming it ... some have even evolved up to 4 strands... WE all ahve the so called junk DNA in our blood, so the capacity to reconnect all twelve strands should be there in most people no mater what blood lines.. She says that the different strands when re formed arn't always vissable to the naked eye/ telescope as they are mostley visable on their perticular coresponding dimension.
But there has been on going manipulations to try and prevent the reactivation of our disconnected strands by certain factions... and as we've heard David Wilcock, Henry Deacon, I think Pete Peterson and others say the swine flue vaccine is the last bid to hinder and sabatage out DNA restructuring...
Also she says's that as we activate our DNA, it reactivates our childrens DNA as they carry the same energy sigiture as our own.. which is good to know.

And Carol, I too meant no offence about Steven Greere, I think he has done treamendous work, and I'm happy with many reptilians so saying that I thought he looked like one was not an insult, I think the reptilian face is a beaufiful face... I just got a bad feeling from him when watching the Barcelona lecture... not evil bad but I sort of cringed at his mannerism I thought he came accross smarmy... but that's just me and like I said I wish no bad feelings towards him or negitive energy towards him.
I was sort of larking around with K2... but in hind sight it was a bit childish of me and I apoligise.... I guess he has his reasons to not divulge some info on the negitive ET's maybe if most people have a positive out look on ET's we will collectivly attract positive ETs to us and the planet... that could be his reason?? But he did say that there were no hostile ET's... which means gung ho lazers blasting comming at us fireng... He did however say no hostile Et's..but that Interdimentionals were a nother thing!

and we kind of know what he's taslking about there!

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Thank you antonio for the info below that has clarified things for me.
I am glad our childrens DNA gets activated also that was something i was pondering on.
The swine flu issues well yes of course i have also heard it said that these inoculations hold nano technology and these are bio when entering the body they go to work and turn the person into a type of human/machine.








it's interesting that the discusion has returned to DNA.. my reptilain guide has been talking about the DNA from the very beginning of her and my connection.
There are some born with the triple helix but others, through thier own light work and awakening are reforming it ... some have even evolved up to 4 strands... WE all ahve the so called junk DNA in our blood, so the capacity to reconnect all twelve strands should be there in most people no mater what blood lines.. She says that the different strands when re formed arn't always vissable to the naked eye/ telescope as they are mostley visable on their perticular coresponding dimension.
But there has been on going manipulations to try and prevent the reactivation of our disconnected strands by certain factions... and as we've heard David Wilcock, Henry Deacon, I think Pete Peterson and others say the swine flue vaccine is the last bid to hinder and sabatage out DNA restructuring...
Also she says's that as we activate our DNA, it reactivates our childrens DNA as they carry the same energy sigiture as our own.. which is good to know.

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I don't watch TV, however I did see a news program on the TV at work the other day while I was getting coffee...and they had a doctor telling the public, that it's okay for a pregnant woman to get the swine flu shot...how it would not effect the child..and I was shocked. When do you ever give a pregnant woman a vaccine?
I believe it is in fact just that...used to prevent reactivation. :shocked:

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Well said and appropriate,
and brings new light to the forum.

Love Always,
Bushycat

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I got a strong message the other day that the coordinates on the planet create a geometry, that each geometric pattern is different depending on the race wishing to come in through the 12 star gates. That the patterns and the gate placements coordinate with data pertaining to dates and alignments. That 2012 was a time when all the patterns are open and ANYONE can come in, as then the gates resonate to all forms of genetic compatibility.

That we humans are the ONLY ones who can gate travel whenever we want to because we hold all twelve strands of compatible patterning in our DNA and that THIS is why we are so important and how we were designed. That we are an on going experiment to bring this compatibility to all forms of life who wish it through genetic harvesting. That this has not been through choice and that our lack of choice in this matter has caused quite a stir, as we are graduating to another level... we are no longer to be considered cattle and can no longer be treated as such. It is soon going to be up to us if we want to share this treasure. That many are fighting against this, and many are fighting for it...

I do not know if this is true. I just got this as a message and there it is. Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,

Wormhole

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great message wormhole- i want that too and peace for us who want to live in love, harmony, peace......

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Oohh I have gotta come in on this one, This is ringing my bells.

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Yeah..I've been wondering all along why they send *us* to do their dirty work- I always thought it was because of specific bloodlines/some engineered to do this work etc; but I am really curious- I've just felt we were the guinea pigs.....

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Eleni I appreciate a lot the material you bring on the annunaki history. I would like to ask you if you have an idea of what was happening to the religions of the hearth during an era I'm studying right now, that is around the year zero of the christian era. I don't mean Christ in particular, but also the transformation in beliefs that occured in every other religion I aware of from that time, and that is not much in fact, only comprising the mediteranean to the hindus and a bit beyond. If I m right, it correspond astrologically to the beginning of the cycle of the fish. What I see in general terms is a transition from paganism with sacrificial rites and tradition based ethics to a monotheistic devotion with ethics based on the matter/spirit duality. This general change occured on a large timeframe around that period and had a huge impact on the rest of the world. Aliens were of course very busy at that time. I heard some gnostic texts where talking about greys as archonts. This is all actually chaneled data.


http://www.karmapolis.be/pipeline/interview_lash.htm

Also archonts in the divine hierarchy in Jamblichus, "On the Mysteries"

http://www.sacred-texts.com/gno/th3/th343.htm

I study greek pagan texts of that time, I just can't finish the academic work because I stumble all the time on some alien related text that lead me somwhere else...

sure you'll like this one :

[Antonius Diogenes, The incredible wonders beyond Thule]

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/ph...ibliotheca.htm

also on a more reptoid topic, the name Erichtonios, half man half serpent, said to be born of the earth and to be the founder of Athen, And a goddess I don't have a name for who's also half sepent and the fonder of the Angkor.

cheery thougths to all

something for the bible heads, careful it's a headbanger:

something chilly to swallow the red pill:

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I believe we do this because they trust us, they can not trust our leaders, most of the contacters are not hierarchy either and do not trust their hierarchy,if there is any truth the lore that surrounds our history, these thieves have quarreled amongst themselves for thousands of years no reason to think they would stop now. look at Enil and Enki I also believe they do choose those with a predisposition for this work, be it bloodline maybe, my friend D'von also is a contactee and he thinks im 110 percent reptilian, he is cheeky like that lol.

However I have had waking dreams and nightmares regarding that even to this day. But what they mean my guides said I need to govern my own soul, they wont hand my answers to me on a plate, they make me work for it, and I like to think it keeps me humble.

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Ammit, eleni,

Yes, if we aligned the geometric pattern of one race to a stargate, it would indeed show us the positions of the others. At differing times, other races also align and are able to travel here. Humans can travel ANYTIME, as we have been bred to do so in at least twelve geometric patterns. In terms of our value, this makes us VERY VALUABLE. All you need do is activate the desired strand and presto, you've got yourself passage.

We as humans do this all the time by incarnating throughout time itself on this planet and some of us remember our incarnations on other planets as well. Yes, our vibration matches the encounter we are having. We are bred for that. We can switch between races. We are the ONLY ONES THAT CAN. DNA is used, in a timely manner (when patterns match up to stargates), yet these things happen in a timeless way as our souls carry the imprint and the pattern needed to travel inter-dimensionally. Thus past, present, and future are congruent. So you will remember a past life on another planet as well as many on this one. We can't help it. We are hard wired.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

ps. My understanding was that we are not the only ones who can stargate, just that we are the only ones who can stargate WHENEVER we want too. Everybody else has to wait until their specific pattern and resonance can move through the gates. We can move in accordance to twelve patterns. As to gates, they are in many places but only twelve on this planet. As to races using them, many. As to how many races we can transport, I think twelve, thirteen if you count us humans. Perhaps we can allow everyone to move freely. Hmm. What a responsibility.

My thinking is that it is not about "anywhere" but more about "anytime" that we can move through dimensions and stargates.

Pss, I've got a lot of my own interpretation in this last post. Please add your thoughts!:original:

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very good post Wormhole. If we are the one who are in charge of the stargates, it's because we live in this particular space time continuum, so it's e not something "eternal". it's likely we are not the only ones who can travel between dimensions through past life regression, but our relative postion to other ethnic groups give us a catalythic role for manifestation of the diffenrences and clusterings of creation. As the earth goes into death and rebirth, she sees all her life passing in front of her like a movie.

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Akopij- I'm not an Annunaki or any other expert by any means- I read Sitchin's work 20 years ago and keep researching and will have a look at those links- thank you for sharing those.
I can read Aramaic though LOL......

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Wormhole- can you explain the difference between travel via astral projection and a personal stargate (Merkabah)?

This is what I understand- don't ask how I know this- just a hunch- *normal* people(Andy B for example) who travel via stargates/jumprooms are given drugs to counter the effects from such travel.

Then there are people who were genetically manipulated (using hyperdimensional DNA as components- Elven for example) who don't need to use the drugs before or after travel as it effects them much less even though they still have human DNA.

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i saw your annunaki history post Eleni, well I didn't say you were an annunaki, but now that you mention it ... lol. I still have to read Sitchin, Temple and so many others.
a nice book on magic, astral travels, elementary entities etc. :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/301820/Ini...y-Franz-Bardon

If you don't jnow Franz Bardon he was hungarian (if my memory's not rubish), died in the hand of the soviets in the 50's or 60's. He was fighting the satanits

I just learn so much down here.

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LOL- I meant not an Annunaki expert- not me personally being Annunaki- I know you didn't mean I was......

Thank you for that link- not familiar with him.....

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My understanding is that we bring our stargates with us. That we hold the geometric pattern in our DNA, our own Merkaba. (So I guess that could mean every where as well as any time) That it is not that the aliens are coming for us and abducting us... It's the other way around, we are letting them in! They are using our own geometry to get around. And like good dogs we obey. At least we have been because we have been asleep.

Astral projection is just traveling by yourself in your own merkaba.

I think we are being asked to stand up and say that we are a separate race unto ourselves and deserve the rights that all autonomous beings deserve, the right to chose our own destiny. The right to say yes or no to helping these races. The right to create our own terms.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

I do not know about the difference if you did not have the hyperdimensional DNA components, I do not have any experience with this. I would imagine it would be very jarring.

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Now does anyone want to know how the 19.47 factors in with this thread? Sorry, I put all my silver platters away. But Wormhole, I hope you know what you have to do to find out. As far as briefing you up to speed, you know what you have to do, and if you need some help toward that end, email me. We have much to discuss. :wink2:


Think Ammit. Think. I know you can figure this out if anyone can. I just wouldn't go look for it under the carpet. There is a prize waiting for you if you do. (Get your Skype up and running.) :)

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I believe the drugs Andy was given was to counter the radiation that would affect his bones and teeth.. which is something he mentioned in one of his recent interviews/chats.

Jumproom travel involves the physical body.. whereas astral travel involves the astral body... and then there is traveling with conscious intention with the inter-dimensional body that can go anywhere, anytime if it has a nexus (energetic frequency reference point) in the multiverse. Individuals who have trained as mystics/masters do this all the time. This is also why so many people are attracted to certain spiritually evolved individuals because they have already learned how to access the higher spiritual dimensions and their beingness attracts those who wish to progress spiritually to the higher frequency vibration. For example, if one were to focus on Christ.. from the heart chakra and use the third eye for a focus point.. one can eventually access a direct experience of Christ Consciousness which is pure compassion. Take it the next step where the mystics describe this as the dew drop that slips into the shinning sea and we have a soul that has transcended duality and had a direct experience of god consciousness... the awareness of being both the drop of water and being oceanic consciousness connected with all that exists which is not matter but pure light and potential. This is the birthright of a soul in a human body.

My experience with the grays/reptilian is that they don't have that type of energy frequency access and that is why they are involved in a hybridization program. They may be advanced mentally and technology wise but they are not at the potential spiritual frequency level that humans are born with. I think this is due to the reality of humans not being in the collective and having to experience the sense of being cut off, alone and independent. It is my speculation that this unique characteristic, which is human, is the underlying driving force to experience god consciousness... at the oceanic cosmic consciousness level. Humans are drivin. Greys are told what to do. Being free means great risks, great responsibility, great challenges and great rewards.

From what I have observed with the greys and hybrids is an obsession with the reproduction process and sexuality. The mystics bypass sexual involvement utilizing the sexaul energy, drawing it up through the spine to unite with god at the crown chakra - the thousand petal lotus. Only there is much more... what they are doing is accessing the higher spiritual realms and learning from those advance beings who dwell there. Celibacy is for a reason. It allows this spiritual energy to build internally and is the rocket fuel for further spiritual advancement. It is with intention (focus on masters who have already achieved enlightenment) and disipline through a spiritual practice one is able to achive spiritual advancement whereupon they can eventually get off the wheel of karma. Sex binds one at a karmic level and also opens up unresolved karmic doors to be explored... and is also a distraction for the individual who seeks liberation from karma and the cycle of death and rebirth as it can keep one bound and addicted to the physical experience and physical existance.

I've had these experiences and have experienced my conscousness in various dimensions. My physical, astral and mental bodies were left behind during these various experiences. Pure conscious awareness can pop into any nexus point because it is also the experience of zero point quantom field. Think about it. Our DNA is wrapped around light. It is light which binds the multiverse together. When one has experienced consciousness as light (without all physical limitation and manifestations) ones conscious awareness can be anywhere, at anytime in anyplace. This is what true freedom and liberation is. It can only be achieved as an independent force seeking to reunited with its origin. The dew drop falls from the sky to the earth.. enters into many earth experiences and is reabsorded at multiple levels (absorbed by the earth, plants, aminals.. perhaps it is carried by a stream or a river where it may eventually enter into the ocean, or it evaporates and is lifted back into the sky...) the clouds carry it to the ocean whereupon it slips back into the sea to know itself as both the drop of conscious awareness and the sea. Duality is collapsed as there is a sense of at-one-ness with all that exists as light.

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This section "The retturn of Enki..... kids become stars" although very techical ....(I still ddon't get it entirely even though I read a good few times)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...anwinter07.htm


from Below....condensed Dan Winter.. explains how we stargate travel with our own DNA....

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...inter.htm#menu

can any more techi minded person put it in to simple word for me???

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I believe the drugs Andy was given was to counter the radiation that would affect his bones and teeth.. which is something he mentioned in one of his recent interviews/chats.

Jumproom travel involves the physical body.. whereas astral travel involves the astral body... and then there is traveling with conscious intention with the inter-dimensional body that can go anywhere, anytime if it has a nexus (energetic frequency point) in the multiverse. Individuals who have trained as mystics/masters do this all the time. This is also why so many people are attracted to certain spiritually evolved individuals because they have already learned how to access the higher spiritual dimensions and their beingness attracts those who wish to progress spiritually to the higher frequency vibration. For example, if one were to focus on Christ.. from the heart chakra and use the third eye for a focus point.. one can eventually access a direct experience of Christ Consciousness which is pure compassion. Take it the next step where the mystics describe this as the dew drop that slips into the shinning sea and we have a soul that has transcended duality and had a direct experience of god consciousness... the awareness of being both the drop of water and being oceanic consciousness connected with all that exists which is not matter but pure light and potential. This is the birthright of a soul in a human body.

My experience with the grays/reptilian is that they don't have that type of energy frequency access and that is why they are involved in a hybridization program. They may be advanced mentally and technology wise but they are not at the potential spiritual frequency level that humans are born with. I think this is due to the reality of humans not being in the collective and having to experience the sense of being cut off, alone and independent. It is my speculation that this unique characteristic, which is human, is the underlying driving force to experience god consciousness... at the oceanic cosmic consciousness level. Humans are drivin. Greys are told what to do. Being human with free will means great risks, great responsibility, great challenges and great rewards.

From what I have observed with the greys and hybrids is an obsession with the reproduction process and sexuality. The mystics bypass sexual involvement utilizing the sexaul energy, drawing it up through the spine to unite with god consciousness at the crown chakra - the thousand petal lotus. Only there is much more... what they are doing is accessing the higher spiritual realms and learning from those advance beings who dwell there. Celibacy is for a reason. It allows this spiritual energy to build internally and is the rocket fuel for further spiritual advancement. It is with conscious intention (focus on masters who have already achieved enlightenment) and disipline through a spiritual practice one is able to achive spiritual advancement, whereupon, they can eventually get off the wheel of karma. Sex binds one at a karmic level and also opens up unresolved karmic doors to be explored... and is also a distraction for the individual who seeks liberation from karma and the cycle of death and rebirth as it can keep one bound and addicted to the physical experience and physical existance.

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I am lost now Lionhawk...

1) I can get that 19.47 is the log and lat of the roswel crash which happened in 1947.

also

2) 19.47 could be the average weight of the soul.

also

3) 19.47 degrees is the angle that ufo`s use the sun as a stargate.

Besides ripping up my carpet and looking under there for clues, Im about out of ideas.

Ammit

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It seems to be everywhere in numerology, is it because its a universal number?

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Yes Carol- I know the difference between intentional astral travel and jumprrom but am confused as to the statement that we are the only one's who can do this. I believe most species are capable of interdimensional travel using their own bodies- it's not just us (obviously question not directed at you).

On an interesting note- when I am hooked up to the mind mirror- all I have to do is think of a specific person and their vibratory level- unconditional love(my nanny or a yogi I am in contact with on an ethereal plane) and my mind pattern becomes *round/whole/all gaps filled* as shown on the mind mirror. It was that easy (raising core vibratory level and experiencing that) that is where I would like to reside fully.

I've also had those experiences where I was one with all (I once told my zen teacher that I experienced it as everything and yet nothing and he understood completely) a zone of no time/space no duality yet at the same time I understood what is called evil/murder etc; in that space I did not see it as evil if that makes any sense. Hard to comprehend unless one has experienced it.
I've been a student of Advaita the past 5 years.....

Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited
 

Eleni,
I agree that we are not the only ones who can, but we are the only ones who can in twelve distinct ways. Our genetic patterning is the most complex of all and includes many races. We may travel through time, space, dimensions and more. We can also be used by other races to travel, for our construct allows us pilot craft as well as astrally move.

I hope that helps.
Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited
 

Yes, now I understand what you were speaking of. Thank you for clarification.

Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited
 

I suspect many beings are capable of interdimensinal travel and agree with much of what you wrote. I guess I'm a bit confused now myself.

Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited
 

....... Resonance........?