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orthodoxymoron 05-20-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 138820)
orthodoxymoron: When you deliberately go and contact someone yourself it is not intervention, it's your choice, your risk. Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.

So...there is no such thing as evil-spirits and demon possession? No aliens who abduct and eat humans? No evil non-humans behind the New World Order? No alien agenda which involves enslavement and extermination? The ETs in our galaxy are probably very nice and ethical. It's the ETs who allegedly have been living within the earth for thousands of years who I have issues with. I think they should leave(they probably think we should leave). See below:

timetotelltheworld 05-20-2009 11:50 PM

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:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::w all::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
THEY MURDERED ALL MY REALITIVES WHAT PART OF THAT ARE YOU NOT GETTING,,,,,,THATS THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING REPACED AND THAT THEY HAVE BUILT AN INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS PLANET.....

HUMANS IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT PAY ATTENTION TO THE DISTRACTIONS AND DISCREDITING THEY ARE EXTREMILY CUNNING AND WILL MANIPULATE EVERY SITUATION TO WORK IN THEY'RE FAVOR....

ALIENS : I HATE YOU AND THERE IS NO WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR ANY LANGUAGE WHICH WILL AMPLIFY HOW I FEEL TOWARDS YOU BUGGERS....

WOULDNT IT BE NICE IF WE COULD ALL GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING AND START THIS ALL OVER FROM CREATION

AND NOT CREATE THESE VIAL CREATURES WHO HAVE DEFILED THIS PLANET

GET RID OF THEM COMPLETLY LIKE THEY NEVER EXISTED.....

WOULDNT THAT BE NICE ....WHAT IF WE COULD:original:

THIS ALIEN RACE WOULD BE SCREWED WOULDNT THEY......

WELL WHAT IF WE CAN START THIS TIME LINE OVER ALL THE TIME LINES WHAT IF THERE IS ONE WHO CAN DO THAT...WHAT IF HE IS HERE AND HE IS ANGRY AND HE WILL DO IT....

START ALL THIS OVER ERASE ALL OF HISTORY AND START IT OVER AND GET RID OF THEM COMPLETLY

WHAT IF THATS TRUE IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE DREAM COME TRUE WOULDNT IT....:original:

orthodoxymoron 05-21-2009 12:15 AM

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TTW: What kind of aliens do you think are the malevolent ones who have been abusing the human race? Where do they live? Should they just leave Earth...or should they leave the Solar System? If they arrived in Spaceship Moon and Spaceship Venus...should they take their spaceships with them when they leave? What would happen to Earth if Venus and the Moon were removed? I hope they don't ram us with Venus or the Moon in an episode of interplanetary space-rage! Can't you just see a Reptilian smoking a cigar while ramming Earth with the Moon?!! I don't want them to be hurt or killed. I don't want them to go away mad. I just want them to go away. Don't let the Asteroid Belt hit you guys on your way out of the Solar System! Go with God!

Or should I say...Leave with Lucifer?

Seriously...it may turn out that you Reptilians and Greys are much smarter and more advanced than we are(I suspect that we have obtained science, technology, architecture, art, music, religions, literature, etc. from you)...but the evidence is that you have been harsh taskmasters of the human race...and even if there was a reason for you to be here in the past...that time has passed. You Reptilians and Greys probably think I'm a smart-alec ingrate...and you would be correct. I just want Earth to be run properly. There are irreconcilable differences between our races...at least historically and presently. We could call this proposed split...a trial separation. You get Venus and the Moon. We get Earth and the Kids. I really mean no harm...and I really don't know what I'm talking about...but this is how I see things presently.

PK47 05-21-2009 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 138943)
So...there is no such thing as evil-spirits and demon possession? No aliens who abduct and eat humans? No evil non-humans behind the New World Order? No alien agenda which involves enslavement and extermination? The ETs in our galaxy are probably very nice and ethical. It's the ETs who allegedly have been living within the earth for thousands of years who I have issues with. I think they should leave(they probably think we should leave). See below:

sigh.. Did I ever claim that? Abductions, sacrificial rituals, genetic experiment, NWO all are real... you guys never seem to get to the point... ok i'll leave u guys alone, take wahtever u want to be true..
peace!

orthodoxymoron 05-21-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139013)
sigh.. Did I ever claim that? Abductions, sacrificial rituals, genetic experiment, NWO all are real... you guys never seem to get to the point... ok i'll leave u guys alone, take wahtever u want to be true..
peace!

What part of the following did I not get?

'Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.'

You seem to be implying that ETs are not a threat or danger to humans. I tend to think that the ones who are here are not our friends. Who was it that said 'there is no right or wrong...but thinking makes it so'? I disagree with that statement. I want to peacefully interact with non-humans of all kinds...but I'm not really into the enslavement and extermination thing...you know...E&E.

PK47 05-21-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139051)
What part of the following did I not get?

'Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.'

You seem to be implying that ETs are not a threat or danger to humans. I tend to think that the ones who are here are not our friends. Who was it that said 'there is no right or wrong...but thinking makes it so'? I disagree with that statement. I want to peacefully interact with non-humans of all kinds...but I'm not really into the enslavement and extermination thing...you know...E&E.

My whole point from rest of the posts was that Draco, Illuminati, and some greys are threat to us as long as we allow them to control us. Most of the ETs in our galaxy are neural or benevolent and this is a fact! This doesn't mean that Dracos and Rigelians are good to us! This was the primary reason why galactic federation was formed and we are not yet ready to join this federation (or any other councils) because our species mind pattern is in victimization state. We can never be free from Draco and others' tyranny and occupation unless we reclaim ourselves and be our own government! That's the whole point and for this to happen massive awakening is vital!
Also There is a difference between ETs and Alien in government terminology. Stew explains this in this video: youtube.com/watch?v=CcRcY58Izaw

orthodoxymoron 05-21-2009 02:05 PM

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PK47: I figured that's what you meant. Sorry if I put words in your mouth(I have enough trouble putting words in my own mouth).

Sometimes I'm not sure if our species is in victimization state or predatory state. The two states feed off of each other. It seems as though we need to battle both extremes...and end up in a state of personal responsibility...where we are neither masters nor slaves. I keep hoping that the Dracos will achieve this as well. Somewhere and somewhen...the Dracos took a wrong turn...and it may be very difficult for them to get back on track. I'd love to work with them...but not as their slave...or their master. At this point...the two races may need to be separated from each other...but it doesn't have to be this way.

By the way...do the reptilians and greys prefer to live underground...or do they live underground because they have to? Do they really want to mostly exterminate us...and completely take over the surface world?

PK47 05-22-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139097)
Sometimes I'm not sure if our species is in victimization state or predatory state. The two states feed off of each other. It seems as though we need to battle both extremes...and end up in a state of personal responsibility...where we are neither masters nor slaves.

When there is a victimization mind pattern then you attract predator. You could individually also attract negative experiences because of some of your issues from simultaneous existences (past and future lives within different timeliness).

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139097)
By the way...do the reptilians and greys prefer to live underground...or do they live underground because they have to? Do they really want to mostly exterminate us...and completely take over the surface world?

I don't know about greys but Lemurian Dracos prefer to live on warmer surface and many do live on uninhabited warm areas on earth. They do want to officially completely take over (indirectly they already control everything) but they don't want population wiped out. if they really wanted to exterminate us then they would have done so ages ago. If you have 15 free slaves and servants in your home then do you want to wipe 10 out and only keep 5 when you know that 15 would better serve you? No. They only don't want truly awakened ppl. All these theory about population reduction and blah blah.. are to keep ppl in fear and panic (Alex Jones??) so that they can be easily controllable. But mind you that they do want certain races of ppl to be completely wiped out.

orthodoxymoron 05-22-2009 01:22 PM

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Can there be a happy outcome for both the reptilian and human races? Who wants to be a slave? We seem to be livestock owned by the reptilians...or so they think. Is this acurate? Could both races peacefully and happily live under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Is the U.N. Charter really a reptilian document? If the reptilians really exist...I see a storm coming here on Earth...which could potentially wipe out both the reptilian and human populations. Is this accurate or alarmist? Would the reptilian population willingly leave Earth? I suspect that the general human population would want them removed or eliminated if they knew what was really going on. Is this accurate or alarmist? So many questions...so little time.

PK47 05-22-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139402)
Can there be a happy outcome for both the reptilian and human races?

Yes if reptilians change their attitude and belief system. but is this likely going to happen? No. Why? as you know unlike mammalians reptilian DNAs takes very long time to change so they cannot easily change their belief system like humans do.

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139402)
Who wants to be a slave? We seem to be livestock owned by the reptilians...or so they think. Is this acurate?

Not only by reptilians but by greys and some others too.


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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139402)
Could both races peacefully and happily live under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Is the U.N. Charter really a reptilian document? If the reptilians really exist...I see a storm coming here on Earth...which could potentially wipe out both the reptilian and human populations. Is this accurate or alarmist? Would the reptilian population willingly leave Earth? I suspect that the general human population would want them removed or eliminated if they knew what was really going on. Is this accurate or alarmist? So many questions...so little time.

Why do you want someone to live under laws and rules that You yourself think it is good i.e. US constitution and Bill of rights? Do you not think for once that Reptilians could be thinking of the same e.g. keeping humans in control under reptilians being the best thing? Do you not realize that the constitution and Bill of rights were given by the same ppl who financed all world wars, financed American revolution, holocausted native ppl of Americas, Canada and other places?? Do you really think this one world government that elites are trying to bring is really bad? or is it our wake up call to something that we are so pathetically missing to see? For a moment forget all religions, all governments, all cultures, all borders and nations, then think what will be left? The solution is within you. Just remember that the reptilians and NWO are reflections of ourselves, our collective mind pattern. The power to overcome is within ourselves. This cannot be won by war, by protest, by getting back constitution and by forcing others to live under it. Do you not know that United States of America is a Virginia Corporation administered by British Monarchy and owned by Vatican? If you did not know this before then read some Law books and research. US was never free. Know your God given rights and see all as one.

Seashore 05-22-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139389)

...All these theory about population reduction and blah blah.. are to keep ppl in fear and panic (Alex Jones??) so that they can be easily controllable. But mind you that they do want certain races of ppl to be completely wiped out.

I know that Stewart Swerdlow does not believe the Illuminati want to cull world population; he thinks they want to keep their slave-race intact.

But I believe there is a book called Goals for Mankind (published in the 70's) by the Club of Rome that called for a reduction of world population to the level of 500 million - 1 billion...

Maybe they're not in agreement about what they want to do...

PK47 05-22-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139413)
I know that Stewart Swerdlow does not believe the Illuminati want to cull world population; he thinks they want to keep their slave-race intact.

But I believe there is a book called Goals for Mankind (published in the 70's) by the Club of Rome that called for a reduction of world population to the level of 500 million - 1 billion...

Maybe they're not in agreement about what they want to do...

Not only Swerdlow even your own common sense would have once thought that this is a disinfo. If that was their real agenda then it would be a peace of cake for them. What they really want to do or are doing is systematically bringing down and wiping out calculated number of certain population belonging to specific places/races. They would not bring slave population down to 1 billion. They might only think of doing that if mass number of peoples start to awaken from every corner of the world. But even if that kind of awakening happens then they might just leave earth without getting into enough trouble.

Seashore 05-22-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139411)

Do you not know that United States of America is a Virginia Corporation administered by British Monarchy and owned by Vatican? If you did not know this before then read some Law books and research. US was never free.

Did you get this from the documentary Ring of Power by Amenstop Productions?

What Law books? Have you read Law books?

PK47 05-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139444)
Did you get this from the documentary Ring of Power by Amenstop Productions?

What Law books? Have you read Law books?

When you go through a law book or online law dictionary then you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries. If you do little more research then you will find out that USA is really a Virginia Company created at England in 1606. many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact. You know what corporation is right? It is an artificial person (Watch the documentary "The Corporation"). 'Ring of Power' is very accurate docu although it has been debunked for lazy-asses who don't do much of their own research.

Seashore 05-22-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139467)
When you go through a law book or online law dictionary then you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries.

But it's a municipal corporation as opposed to a business? Makes no difference?

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139467)
If you do little more research then you will find out that USA is really a Virginia Company created at England in 1606.

I know this about Virginia.

But why do you say the whole USA? You're saying that the other states are subsidiaries or something like that?

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139467)
many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact.

Can you give me one example?

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139467)
(Watch the documentary "The Corporation").

Is this it?

"The Corporation Part One (Of Three)

orthodoxymoron 05-22-2009 09:07 PM

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The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in a plain and simple reading...as intended by it's authors...is reflective of Responsible Freedom. The issue is Freedom vs Tyranny. I don't want to be a slave or a master. I don't want to rule over the reptilians and greys...and I don't want them to rule over me. I have done my research...and the United States and the U.S. Constitution have been badly subverted, undermined, ignored, targeted, sabotaged, etc, etc. The rest of the world may need to step up to the plate for the cause of responsible freedom. They may need to voluntarily adopt the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and just say NO to the NWO.

Better Dead Than Rep.

Seashore 05-22-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139474)
The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in a plain and simple reading...as intended by it's authors...is reflective of Responsible Freedom. The issue is Freedom vs Tyranny. I don't want to be a slave or a master. I don't want to rule over the reptilians and greys...and I don't want them to rule over me. I have done my research...and the United States and the U.S. Constitution have been badly subverted, undermined, ignored, targeted, sabotaged, etc, etc. The rest of the world may need to step up to the plate for the cause of responsible freedom. They may need to voluntarily adopt the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and just say NO to the NWO.
Better Dead Than Rep.

I've been thinking a lot about the Constitution and I'm realizing that without an enforcement mechanism, it's worthless. Maybe it's a mistake to focus on the document itself, as beautiful as that document is...

orthodoxymoron 05-22-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139475)
I've been thinking a lot about the Constitution and I'm realizing that without an enforcement mechanism, it's worthless. Maybe it's a mistake to focus on the document itself, as beautiful as that document is...

What would you suggest as an enforcement mechanism? Perhaps George W. Bush was right when he said that the Constitution was 'just a G**D*** piece of paper.' Click the top bar...not the arrow. For some reason only the top bar works. What would you suggest that we focus on? I understand what you are saying...but I'd like to hear you elaborate.

Seashore 05-22-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139497)
What would you suggest as an enforcement mechanism? Perhaps George W. Bush was right when he said that the Constitution was 'just a G**D*** piece of paper.' What would you suggest that we focus on?

I'm thinking we need to focus on healing ourselves, worldwide, like what is discussed in this thread ...

Maybe, if a critical mass of people who are self-reliant is reached, everything else will fall into place...

orthodoxymoron 05-23-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139498)
I'm thinking we need to focus on healing ourselves, worldwide, like what is discussed in this thread ...

Maybe, if a critical mass of people who are self-reliant is reached, everything else will fall into place...

Should we let the New World Order just happen...while we heal ourselves? What should the German people have done in the 1930's? Should Hitler and the Third Reich have been actively resisted...or should the people have focused on healing themselves? How about both? Anarchy and Self-Centeredness will ultimately result in Tyranny aka The New World Order.


Some say that we are here in this mess because we chose to be. Some say that bad things happen to people because they have a victim mentality. So...did the holocaust victims(and all WWII victims) bring the atrocities upon themselves? Self reliance and personal responsibility are extremely important...but reigning in and punishing the bad-guys is equally important. There has to be a central document which provides a legal foundation for a central benchmark concept. Otherwise...we build upon shifting sand.

Seashore 05-23-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 139503)
Should we let the New World Order just happen...while we heal ourselves? What should the German people have done in the 1930's? Should Hitler and the Third Reich have been actively resisted...or should the people have focused on healing themselves? How about both? Anarchy and Self-Centeredness will ultimately result in Tyranny aka The New World Order.

Some say that we are here in this mess because we chose to be. Some say that bad things happen to people because they have a victim mentality. So...did the holocaust victims(and all WWII victims) bring the atrocities upon themselves? Self reliance and personal responsibility are extremely important...but reigning in and punishing the bad-guys is equally important. There has to be a central document which provides a legal foundation for a central benchmark concept. Otherwise...we build upon shifting sand.

At the same time we are working on healing ourselves, yes, we should resist the NWO. I'm praying that people who are in jobs such as the military and police are going to resist orders that violate the Constitution. I'm praying that all of us are going to refuse to cooperate with the NWO in any way that we can. All of us should be examining this. All of us should turn off the TV. And contemplate. Ask ourselves, "What can I do to help us get out of this mess?" Don't rely on someone else to do it.

orthodoxymoron 05-23-2009 03:54 AM

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Some have suggested that foreign troops will be used to crack down on Americans...including the U.S. military and local law enforcement...because there probably wouldn't be enough Americans who would be willing to shoot fellow Americans...or violate their constitutional rights. We may be controlled and contained by any and all means necessary. Mind you...I don't want to run in the streets...but if foreign or alien stormtroopers show up in my town...I'll unleash my Trunk Monkey on them. Please don't take this as a violent anti-grey view on my part. I just thought this was a well done video clip. I don't want anyone to be hurt or killed...human or non-human.

PK47 05-23-2009 11:51 AM

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orthodoxymoron@ Don't choose the path that Atlans from Pleiades chose or Maldekans and Martians chose. Embrace the change and direct it to positive direction which will benefit all. Like once Bashar said "It's not about taking back your government it's about being your own government." Earth is a microcosm version of our galaxy.


PK47 05-24-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139473)
But it's a municipal corporation as opposed to a business? Makes no difference?

government is business, policy is business, war is business, all are business..business of controlling resources and people.


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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139473)
I know this about Virginia.

But why do you say the whole USA? You're saying that the other states are subsidiaries or something like that?

Yes whole USA is a corporation. States are different horizontal divisions like in big corporation!?

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139473)
Can you give me one example?

There are way too many evidences that shows connection between Wash DC, Vatican, London and other secret societis and occult and intelligence groups.....go through the works of Jordan Maxwell and Michael Traison on symbolism and occults.

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 139473)

This movie basically explains what corporation is within the business industries. But to know how countries and government are run, info in this docu is not sufficient.

This poster shows in detail the map and connection within world government:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15764393/wordlgovmap
you can save the PDF for yourself for later view.

Seashore 05-24-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139774)
..business of controlling resources and people.

Good point! :mfr_omg:

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139467)
... you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries... many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact...

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139774)
There are way too many evidences that shows connection between Wash DC, Vatican, London and other secret societis and occult and intelligence groups.....go through the works of Jordan Maxwell and Michael Traison on symbolism and occults.

I know they've researched occult symbolism in corporate logos, but you're saying they've researched governments actually being set up as corporations?

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Originally Posted by PK47 (Post 139774)
This poster shows in detail the map and connection within world government:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15764393/wordlgovmap

:shocked: Wow! This looks like it should be the size of a wall map of the world in order to comprehend it!

timetotelltheworld 06-04-2009 09:37 PM

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i wonder how many posts it will take to totally throw people off the subject of the thread and redirect they're thoughts else where

sunflower 06-04-2009 11:00 PM

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Valid point, Timetotelltheworld. But in a real time conversation, isn't that what frequently happens? We go off on all kinds of tangents. When I was teaching elementary school we called that brainstorming! :original:

orthodoxymoron 06-05-2009 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld (Post 142747)
i wonder how many posts it will take to totally throw people off the subject of the thread and redirect they're thoughts else where


The malevolent alien agenda is certainly not to promote Constitutional Responsible Freedom. The real question is...who really runs Earth?
I have a sinking feeling that it's not We the People.

skyrimirre 06-05-2009 02:46 AM

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Dear TTTTW, I would like to add my story to yours but yours is more dramatic. My father was also murdered in 1998. At first I believed the story of the autopsy that stated he'd died of heart disease. My father died alone under mysterious circumstances in a hotel room. My gut feeling at this point is that he was taken out for being a George Green type. The type of man they wanted in their league but he would never go along with them. Anyway, I'm not so great at embellishing stories and making them very interesting, but suffice it to say that I loved my Father very much and that I still miss him. Also everyone loved him and he was quite a "good" guy. They say they finish last...

In addition, I feel I have been personally physically assaulted a few times not to mention harrassed and grandly psychologically assaulted almost everyday since about 1998, details which I can't go into. But I will side with you in saying I understand where you are coming from. I'm trying to succeed in my work and this is sort of a public cry to join to yours that this is all very real. Very Real.
Sky

timetotelltheworld 06-11-2009 01:44 AM

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some food for thought...................

call me a sceptic but THESE MONSTERS have made me homeless over and over again .........they have totally ruined my life and im just curious i have been in Portland Oregon ........Salt lake city Utah and now San Francisco homeless all over the place where are all the people whose homes were forclosed on all those thousands of homes nation wide because guess what i havnt met a single one on the streets of any of these citys maybe there families arent sick of them yet maybe they have disapeared????

KathyT 06-11-2009 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld (Post 144258)
some food for thought...................

call me a sceptic but THESE MONSTERS have made me homeless over and over again .........they have totally ruined my life and im just curious i have been in Portland Oregon ........Salt lake city Utah and now San Francisco homeless all over the place where are all the people whose homes were forclosed on all those thousands of homes nation wide because guess what i havnt met a single one on the streets of any of these citys maybe there families arent sick of them yet maybe they have disapeared????

timetotelltheworld,
I'm glad you've admitted you're homeless, you told me that privately a month or two ago, so I'm glad I can talk about it openly now. I think you are delusional, and I don't think you're capable of holding a normal job, and you've spent time in jail a lot.
No one makes you homeless, you make yourself homeless.... take responsibility for your own actions.
There is no proof in your story about an alien agenda. You are delusional, and I just want to warn other posters that this thread is a thread of nonsense. And I suspect there are many who have already figured that out.
I hope you are seeking help with facilities that can offer you counseling. I wish you to a better healthy life.

timetotelltheworld 06-19-2009 12:01 AM

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gee Kathy are we feeling a little threatened by the amount of people taking my plee for help seriously....and by the way never been in jail

BROOK 06-19-2009 12:10 AM

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[QUOTE=KathyT;144268]timetotelltheworld,
I'm glad you've admitted you're homeless, you told me that privately a month or two ago, so I'm glad I can talk about it openly now. I think you are delusional, and I don't think you're capable of holding a normal job, and you've spent time in jail a lot.
No one makes you homeless, you make yourself homeless.... take responsibility for your own actions.
There is no proof in your story about an alien agenda. You are delusional, and I just want to warn other posters that this thread is a thread of nonsense. And I suspect there are many who have already figured that out.
I hope you are seeking help with facilities that can offer you counseling. I wish you to a better healthy life.[/QUOTE


Kathyt
In the very beginning of this thread he admits to not only being homeless, but using the Library computers to post here...so it's never been a secret.

sleepingnomore 06-19-2009 03:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 144268)
timetotelltheworld,
I'm glad you've admitted you're homeless, you told me that privately a month or two ago, so I'm glad I can talk about it openly now. I think you are delusional, and I don't think you're capable of holding a normal job, and you've spent time in jail a lot.
No one makes you homeless, you make yourself homeless.... take responsibility for your own actions.
There is no proof in your story about an alien agenda. You are delusional, and I just want to warn other posters that this thread is a thread of nonsense. And I suspect there are many who have already figured that out.
I hope you are seeking help with facilities that can offer you counseling. I wish you to a better healthy life.

Kathy T.,

You can not judge other's experiences based on the social conditioning you've obviously been indoctrinated with. I don't see what anything you've mentioned might have to do with the experiences timetotelltheworld claims.

Only he knows the truth. People are free to believe him or not based on their own experiences or beliefs. We need to be careful about judging other people. To call someone delusional is harsh and I know nothing of your background and qualifications that would give you that right.

Now is the time for all of us to find the strength to come together, not separate.

SNM

BROOK 06-19-2009 03:37 AM

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Harsh indeed...remember we are all one. :wub2:


BROOK 06-19-2009 04:41 AM

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Kathyt

you have the right to judge...but it still does not make you right in doing so.
for example...how would you know that this thread might not be his only hope for sanity. It might be the thing that keeps him from going completely over the edge?
And if what he says is true...and I'm not saying it is...that your final judgment might be the very thing that sets him into a complete tail spin from which he cannot recover?
Have you offered him help? Other then telling him he's delusional an needs to seek professional help...of which the SYSTEM is probably not going to give him as he is homeless...and the thing they do with homeless people is...drop them back onto the streets to sink even deeper.
I am aware of what the system does with homeless mental patients...I come from a long line of mental health workers..including the fact that my Father was a Psychiatrist, and the first thing you need to understand is you are not in his shoes.

We are all one is a COP OUT?....sorry you feel that way...again your being very harsh....seems you must feel very separated, and for that I truly hope you one day find unity...as I will state again...
Dear sister...weather you believe it or not...in MY view..and many others here.....WE ARE ALL ONE....brothers and sisters all

BROOK 06-19-2009 04:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 144268)
timetotelltheworld,
I'm glad you've admitted you're homeless, you told me that privately a month or two ago, so I'm glad I can talk about it openly now. I think you are delusional, and I don't think you're capable of holding a normal job, and you've spent time in jail a lot.
No one makes you homeless, you make yourself homeless.... take responsibility for your own actions.
There is no proof in your story about an alien agenda. You are delusional, and I just want to warn other posters that this thread is a thread of nonsense. And I suspect there are many who have already figured that out.
I hope you are seeking help with facilities that can offer you counseling. I wish you to a better healthy life.

My spirit is not your spirit either....I could never react to someone I felt was sick in this fashion ...we may all be one..but our spirit is individual and unique

Wormhole 06-19-2009 05:09 AM

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Hello loved ones,
OK. I too have a bit of wondering going on about this story. But my own story is no less unique. And, I'm not homeless.

Imagine being homeless, having all these things happen to you, and the last thing you can do is find a SUBSCRIPTION forum to tell your story to. OK, that sucks. And all day of bottle gathering has given you the cash enough to go there...

OR...
Your just full of creativity and one hell of a story ensues.

Look, all we can do is listen, see what resonates, and move forward without judging. Regardless, this story is a story. The person who is relating it needs help. (as Brook is able to point out) and we need to help him. Were this goes as a society is this:

We either take the warning and are astute in our precautions, or we disbelieve and and whoa... what's wrong with the precautions anyway?

You hear me? This is a strange and complicated universe. Let's just call it that. A strange place where all can happen and all can be lost. There is nothing here that can not be. Think it, it will manifest. Live it, it could be understood.

I just want to say, thank the goddess that this guy has a place to go and be heard, regardless.

Yeah, we all know that SOMETHING IS WRONG. What that is, is an individuals own context. This thread has been going on for a long time. It is what it is, truth in the eye of the beholder. Let's be patient, loving, and helpful in a man's (Woman's?) life that needs us to help in recovery. Let's all listen and feel one way or the other.

I welcome the individual, as well as the challenge of truth.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Karen 06-19-2009 06:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 144268)
timetotelltheworld, No one makes you homeless, you make yourself homeless.... take responsibility for your own actions.

Hmmmmmmmm, I've encountered many stories like this - get on the bad side of the wrong people - your bank account disappears, you are stalked and harassed, you cannot get a job because they call your prospective employers and tell them horrid lies about you. Or if you do land a job, they mess with you. They erase your records and the list goes on and on ... KathyT I've seen you many times on this forum judge a story as total bunk - but Project Camelot is a place where people can come to tell their far out stories and for people to expand their world view. Check out Gang stalking ... http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/

TTTTW/Keven Rush wrote: B. Wiped out my bank account in the amount of about $60,000.00. C. Constant death threats, threats of being incarcerated, threats of being made permanently crazy, institutionalized and or being placed into a Chechnya prison not knowing who I am, and this is just a summary of what they continue to do daily. D. They manipulated me into homelessness over and over again this would discredit me and keep me disheveled. D1. Prevented me from getting decent gainful employment AND MESSED WITH EVERY JOB I GET. E. They erased many of my records included but not limited to birth records, passport Records were deleted because they made me homeless in both Asia and Europe , high school and college records erased. e. They broke my shoulder and knocked out my teeth then erased those medical records.

Karen 06-19-2009 06:37 AM

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http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/GSFAQ.html

What are the goals of Gang Stalking?

The goal is to isolate the target from all forms of support, so that the target can be set up in the future for arrest, institutionalisation, or forced suicide. Other goals of this harassment is to destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable.

Other goals involve sensitizing the target to every day stimuli’s as a form of control, which is used to control targets when they get out of line. Once the target is sensitized, the Citizen Informants have an easier time identifying the Targeted Individual in public.

These programs are designed to make the targets of this harassment vulnerable, they want to make them destitute. The secondary goals seems to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to forced suicide, just like what they did with some of the targets of Cointelpro. It's a useful way of eliminating perceived enemies of the state.


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