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Just as Tone3 indicated.............he is not BSing

I feel like my huge bubble went crashing down. I have a very hard time with lying of any kind. It you do not want to have things repeated, do not say them. Such a dissapointment

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I can't, one has to be a member to read the forum.

I find it disturbing that Mel posted here on this forum, that he did not even remember the man's name, yet reveals a whistleblowers name in his forum....adding "don't quote me". I trust when Kerry says she would never introduce John Burns as Jake Simpson, so it makes me wonder where he got his information. How very uncool of Mel, sounds like he has some explaining to do.

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It was only a suggestion my dear Carol. I totally agree that people should be able to express their feelings. I just felt that it was turning into an ‘attack’ thread rather than just venting but am relieved to notice that things have calmed down somewhat. All is on the road to being well again. xx:wub2:

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redtailhwak,

I will give you the courtesy this one time, as you seem to be acting as some kind of de facto investigator. I said I didn't remember the name of the person who I was introduced to and even said "don't quote me". I have been introduced to many people during last week. Either way, it's none of my business who this man in question is or is not. The names in question were being discussed by other members directly from this thread.

Tone3Jaguar misunderstood and has already replied above stating what I said. If you are accusing me of anything, you better have something more concrete than speculation, in order to substantiate your claims. I would strongly suggest that you get your facts in order. This is a very sensitive situation and there is no need to exacerbate it with gossip.

Mel

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Here are some facts for you.

Straight from your forum to ours:

Pineal, I also received a few e-mails stating the same. If I remember correctly, Kerry introduced me to him as Jake Simpson (from Australia, if I remember correctly)...or could it be John/Jake Haupmann?

Please don't quote me...

Mel

Yes, I was introduced to him. It is him. I read a thread over at Project Avalon and Kerry has confirmed she has been traveling throughout Europe and the USA with him. She also confirmed that Bob Dean met with them last week. I was there. I saw them meet. I am 100% positive this is the man. However, there are two sides to every story. Kerry is stating her version and Bill is also stating his.

From the outside, it looks to me this is a divide and conquer approach by TPTB. Whether this is true or not, the outcome is the same. There is infighting everywhere. That is why i choose to remain neutral and escape from any unfolding drama in exopolitics, guests of the show, etc.

Now you know why I don't have partners. My only partner is my wife...and she's not even involved with the show (perhaps indirectly with moral support).

Cheers,

Mel

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All I can say is WOW

The plot keeps getting thicker and thicker

What a sorry state of affairs

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Kerry:
I would like to know your opinion on why you think the Dr. Reed case is a hoax.

Thanks

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tks Mel for visiting here. Your caring & integrity shine through. You are right up there in the top league of the good guys.

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Why would you suddenly trust what she says after all of the fragmented behavior lately? Let it go.

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Normally I would agree Waitinginthewings but I'm shock at what happened here tonight.

I am shocked at Mel jumping all over Redtailhawk on this forum

Shocked and saddened that he wuld do that and insinuate that Tone3 was spreading rumors

Anyhow it has me wondering what is going on.

I know that I certainly owe Bill an apology for ever doubting what he wrote, but I learned a lesson, thats for sure

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I totally agree. :thumb_yello:

How refreshing!

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It is not that big of a deal. Me an Mel are friends it is all good.

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I couldn`t agree more T3J it is what it is accept it

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Mel is a gem and unfortunately got caught up in the fracas. I kind of think of this like a mini tsunami with the waves still rippling as what was once unknown becomes known. All is good in the end and Redtail, I've known Mel for awhile now and a member of his forum. He has always acted with the highest integrity and tried to take a neutral stance when it comes to his professional relationships.

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I trust both Kerry and Bill...they both know me personally. I think they are both fine and courageous people; and I love the work they have accomplished. What I care most about is the confidentiality of witnesses when their identity is supposed to be protected, and that is why this matter has meant so much to me.

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I am loosing the plot here (I think) its becoming confusing with the "he said", "she said" .

Frankly I am starting to think that a whole lot of bad energy has been dumped on Bill/Kerry & Mel & another of the good guys out there.

Maybe us members should take a step back & consciously send some good energy their ways....I think they need it now. They are being torn every which way.

I do want to share here, that ever since I read about Kerry teaming up with Jake or (whoever) he is......a RED FLAG went up for me. I am really concerned about her safety now. I cannot explain this feeling I have, suffice to say that I trust my instincts after learning the lesson the hard way.

I hope she will take time out and evaluate what she is doing before its too late.:tears:

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I have been targeted as well. Very frightening.

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Geeze Eleni

That is scary as heck...................It makes me glad that I live too far to attend any of these conferences.

I have always respected Mel for the way he handled his interviews. He is an excellent host

I just felt the "sting" of his remarks to RedTailHawk and it was not good


It has nothing to do with Kerry, Bill or Tone3.

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Let me assure you that I never said Tone3Jaguar was spreading rumors. I said that Redtailhawk was coming to the wrong conclusion based on non-factual data.

Tone3Jaguar has been a member of my forum and I respect his dowsing capabilities and input, not to mention that I consider all my members friends, as I interact with all of them. You may want to re-read what Redtailhawk said.

With respect,

Mel

P.S. Not to digress this thread, but I was happy to see Tone3Jaguar's abilities recognized by someone I consider another good friend. See the link below:

http://www.colinandrews.net/HAARP-Ra...adJohnson.html

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Yes, its been happening so much and it really has me wondering what is going on. I know that I am not the only one "realing" from all of this. Now listen to what Eleni says and I am only furthered assured that things are not right.

You are not alone in the feelings.

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Mel, I do not think my conclusion is based on "non factual data". I simply wanted to know how T3J linked the names John Burns and Jake Simpson, and I found out, as the facts have been revealed.

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You said Tone 3 was mistaken in what he said. To me that is a rumor or better a lie....sorry my mistake on words

I am very much aware of what RedtailHawk wrote and I just want you to know, I am also a member of your forum, I love your interviews. I read all the words you put up there regarding this via the link that Tone3 put up so I know what was said. I just dont get into the forum.

Trust me, I am not enjoying this and I would like to drop it.

Do you know the real identity of RedTailHawk ? It matters not because he or she is somebody and has said why he wanted to know who oust Jake for personal reasons.

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I don't know the identify of this member mntruthseeker. Should I?

I can tell you that the divide and conquer approach is working wonders right about now. Instead of focusing on me, why don't we focus on the matter at hand and let Bill and Kerry sort things out? Without them we would not be here interacting. Furthermore, without them, perhaps even Veritas wouldn't exist, since I have to admit they were a catalyst/motivator for me as well.

If I had known that commenting about the person in question and saying I met him was going to be taken out of proportion when I was simply part of a thread that I didn't even originate, I would have refrained from participating. Those who know me know I don't take sides and remain neutral.

I'm sure many are in shock right now about what is transpiring, and the best course of action, in my honest opinion, is to stand back and let Kerry and Bill sort things out between themselves. This is their project. We are here because of them. I was banned from ATS immediately after I started Veritas (makes you wonder why) and Project Avalon welcomed me. I will always be thankful for that and for the new friends I made here.

Cheers,

Mel

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no I wasnt sure if you did or not. It really doesnt matter as he or she was just putting out their thoughts. Ones that I had myself.


A friend of both Bill and Kerry's that knows the ropes and as written the inportance of not exposing someone.

I believe that a lesson was learn/taught to all and I for one am ready to move on.

I am still shocked at all that has appeared in this thread and wished I had kept up more on what was happening.

I am not concern about Kerry or Bill. They are both more than capable of moving on.

I am curious as of Jake Simpson and Steven Greer. I can't help but be. I have personal friends that are friends of Steven Greer and I want to know the truth......just as you say in all of your videos. I Want To Know the Truth.

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Go over to the youtube site.
Get to the bottom of the page where they have "fake" infromation which anyone can know. (Trying to act like it is Kerry)

Just below "books" are is a report site just click it.

Thank you.. IF you tube lets that stay up with the project image well then we have arrived at a sad day.

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Mel

A man of honor and integrity as usual.
Some forget that even though Mel has his own forum now, he is also a valued member of this forum as well.

One thing I would say in regard to this being Bill & Kerry's project and we are here because of them. This is of course true and I would, in my opinion make one addition, the forum has become its own universe separate from PC the website, whilst also including it.

Its become a community, a gathering place for a variety of people from different backgrounds & perspectives, some of whom don't want to believe they want to know <=(couldn't resist)

I think the community are handling themselves very well.

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Let it go?

We all have the right to ask questions or come to our own conclusions based upon on our own personal experiences and research.

People will "let it go" when they are good and ready to and not because someone tells them to.

Many of us have not made a judgment call yet and just sit back and watch who says what.
Your constant bashing of Kerry has been noted.

Some of us can actually think for ourselves and will never go along with "the crowd" because we are AWARE on how the game is played.

This whole thing is much deeper and uglier than just 2 personalities clashing.
People are not so stupid anymore and will not believe things just because someone says so.
We have to use our own minds and think outside the box.
Peace.

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This thread should be locked in order to minimize the already substantial collateral damage to Camelot and to the Truth movement in general that is occurring here in real time.

It is unfortunate that "whistleblowers" that have put their lives on the line are now being upstaged by an intra-departmental conflict that has been put on public "blast" for some incredibly inane reason.

I am certain that many insiders and potential-future "whistleblowers" that monitor these type of sites are now thoroughly discouraged in approaching this franchise...EVER... and perhaps all like-sites as well.

This is most unfortunate.

We have all lost here.

In the end they were their own worst enemies.

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Thank you my dear Linda

Its how I feel because to me no matter who RedTailHawk is, he/she is someone that deserves the same respect as any other member.

It makes no difference who you are or what you do outside of here

You should not be treated any differently.

Not too many people come forward but I noticed that over 1000 people have read this thread since the remarks to RedTailHawk were put here

Every person that participates at this forum should be held as an honorary member.

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I am taking a break from all of this drama for a few days. No forums for me, I am going on a Forum fast. See you all next week.

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Hi Vickie, I was not sticking up for anyone and anyway I don't know who this
RedTailHawk is.

I was merely addressing the comment on being told "to let it go" that I feel is very wrong for anybody to do. Ever.

We all need to make up our own minds about this huge drama.

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Banned from their own Forum??? Surely you jest! :lmao:

:mfr_lol:

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I have been watching Camelot videos for years. I am still a big fan. Regardless of what is posted here, that never changes. They have done wonderful work.

This is a time of transition due to economic difficulties. Many people are upset and it is to be expected. Human behavior is naturally emotional and expressive. It is our passion that makes us so unique and special.

I have learned from my own experiences when you have an entertainment or business partnership, there will be disagreements. Being in the music industry myself, I know that it is very competitive. When I had seen at the beginning of this thread that someone had used Project Camelot's image for their own youtube channel, I was not surprised.

Project Camelot is very popular. I am sure Bill and Kerry will find some way to resolve this youtube situation. As far as what they do to this forum, it is up to them. It is their forum. I have to say there is much vital information here that should be archived and backed up, in case the forum is shut down.

Maybe Project Camelot can create another archive section on their website.
Either way, I applaud the wonderful work B&K have done. And as a personal message to B&K, we love you.

We all have pain that we must endure throughout our lives. Just remember that no matter what happens, only good can come out of this. Your material and videos have opened my eyes on many levels. It has helped me in my own research. I believe you are on the right path.

Take a vacation. Try those nice mixed drinks with the umbrellas. Kick back and get a massage. Go to a karaoke bar and sing some songs together. Re-evaluate your situation. Always try to find a positive productive outcome to any challenge.

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I wonder if this is some kind of social experiment?:nono:

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Actually I didnt think you were. I seen it as someone that spoke their mind and wasn't moved by others. I seen over 1000 people visit the thread after it happened and no one spoke up until you.

I personally do not know who RedTailHawk is.......never seen a post of theirs before, I just didnt like what I had seen said to him/her


I read what he/she said and trust she would not put it down if it wasn't true
They personally know Bill and Kerry and was not taking sides in anything but wondered how information was leaked out. Something that is important to all whistleblowers, wouldn't you think ?

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An Ark? What is that all about?

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If it is, then it seems everyone failed it.

Didn't anyone else's mother ever tell them,

"Don't pick it! It'll never heal!"

???

Fred

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After reading all this thread I'm surprised nobody made a comment about gita's post # 105 which I think it's the wisest one. Everybody is just focused in the conflict and the she said/he said.
Bill and Kerry, I just hope the two of you can find common ground again and even with separate sites, a lot of people are looking up to both of you. I admire you both I wish you the best.

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If you watch it without sound you can see he is in the hot seat, just being nervous with a dry mouth and yes, it appeared IMO that he did want to nip off her nose.:mfr_lol: