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Carol...this picture was demonic...and filled with occult..and laid on my profile page, and now here....it is dark and has no place here.

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Okay Observer ...ask yourself 2 questions:

Am I giving knowledge

or

Am I sharing spirituality


What's your answer??

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Carol....Okay whether your accepting of it or not...Is this the place for it??

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no, not for what was in bold... the rest, yes.

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Brook ,

I have only seen the picture that was posted on this thread . I don't consider it all love and Light . I understand how it can be disturbing . I am not learned in esoterics and symbols so what you see I don't see .
I am an artist myself so for me it is a drawing . I see death and I see Life in it .
That is my own subjective interpretation . Death in itself isn't specially something nice to look at .It is scary .But it is as it is. I have no further judgement .

Love Always
mudra

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Mudra....My job leaves me on the mountain top a lot...I know things others don't

They come to the peak ask me for my wisdom and walk away content with the pearls I handed them

but

I never really felt kinship because everyone just walked back down my mountain and I sat there ...ALONE

Come down sometimes Mudra.....I could use a friend....:original:

Peace

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I was simply answering Brook's question, so yeah knowledge SG1965, i was sharing my thoughts.

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Consider, darkness wins when you fight it. The act of fighting is all it takes for darkness to win.

Whenever you fight something, you will create an equal and opposite reaction, and the cycle will continue indefinitely until one side finally decides it's time to turn the other cheek, and to continue doing so.

Gandhi is the best modern example of this in action. Could India have gained independence by fighting? I do not believe so.

Turning the other cheek is not a passive measure. For it results in the 'other side' having to examine their actions. You are no longer fighting back. No longer creating a reaction. Now they have to look at themselves in the mirror and can no longer create a picture of you being the cause of their own problems. They also have to deal with the karma, which will increase exponentially when the continue to act against one that turns the cheek, while u just keep shining your light like a sun.

For me, it's not about choosing sides, it's about moving beyond the fight.

In order to have a perpetrator, you must have a victim. We can now finally choose to move beyond the victim consciousness and take responsibility for our own energy fields and world and know truly we are co-creators.

We are here to shine our light brightly like Suns, but not to fight the darkness, merely enlighten it. If people knew better, they would do better. Shine the light on the darkness and people will know better.

We are here to Be Suns :)

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Well, if I may jump on this band wagon once again as far as these pictures. I love art. I am an artist as well. I think that a picture of a woman's body is one of the most beautiful things that the Creator has created. I also received from this person a picture on my profile page after I rejected a friend request from this person. I rejected this person because I am not in alignment with this person. The reasons are obvious. So to also take into account of others visiting my profile page, and consideration towards them, I deleted it. It was an evil looking nude. It was also a message that was sent without the words being written. I'll admit it. I'm a lesbian. :lmao: I love Goddesses and pictures of them done artistically. But what was done was done in poor taste. I don't even know this guy and what I do know of him, I don't want to know of him or know him. He's not what I am about in any sense of the word. I find that his actions of provoking an emotional response across this board, in a negative light, is not what this forum is all about. And for others to act as though these were harmless acts just also opens my eyes that much further. The double standards around here is what makes me sick to my stomach. But that is my stomach. I have already determined by passed actions that I have experienced here already and even before then, will allow compromise to flourish here no matter what I have to say and use certain people as patsies. So whatever you all decide as I will just have to go with that flow so I don't rock this boat.

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So is it okay if I put another log on the fire? :naughty:

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14Chakra: I'm confused with your post. Can you clarify briefly who you are referring to & what exactly are you saying.

Ghandi never gave up......he simply held his ground with his people & protested in a non-agressive way. He did not turn the other cheek & go home & forget about it, nor did his people. He demonstrated fighting ones oppressors without violence & not giving up.

You say we are here to enlighten the darkness.....I think you underestimate the darkness......which is why we need to be on guard, while shining our light everywhere.

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Absolutely

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Not directed at anyone in particular.

Did Gandhi fight the British? I suggest a watch of the movie Gandhi sometime, it is a great movie and will show how India gained independence.

Gandhi's entire strategy was to turn the other cheek. Notice how you must stand your ground to turn the other cheek. If you run away, is this turning the other cheek? No it is not.

You shine your light. Someone attacks you for it. Do you fight back? How about you stand your ground and keep shining your light instead!

Thinking we must respond fist for fist, eye for eye, is the same kind of thinking that has had the world in wars for the past several thousand years.

There has even been described a 700,000 year war that has been raging in space. Did either side turn the other cheek? Is there maybe a lesson to be learned there? Hmmmmmmmm I dunno know, whataya think?


To get us where we want to go, a world that works for everyone, it's not about 'getting rid of them', it's about realizing that 'they' are not our problem. We are our problem! The problem lies within us. Fix our own consciousness, and we'll realize both the problems and solutions lie inside of us.

:)

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:original:

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OK, something's really bugging me about this "fishes" thread!!!

It's not "Thanks for all the fishes" !!!!!!

It's "Thanks for all the fish" !!!!!

"fish" is plural for "fish"

:wink2:, sorry, :wall:

Now continue, and smile! :original:

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Tibet - Yes a great example.

The entire world knows that the little Tibet is abused by the big Chinese.

In fact, China has a very strong desire to go in and wipe out the light bearers that are in Tibet and turn it into a home for Chinese rather than Tibetans. They do not respect their spiritual culture, and in reality see it as a great threat.

Now if it was all about fighting, China would have done this a long time ago. China is almost infinitely superior in terms of military strength.

The reality is, if the Tibetans practice open warfare against the Chinese, the Chinese will almost instantly wipe them out.

So why hasn't China been able to do this?

The reason China has not been able to do this is because Tibetan's have not fought their oppressors. Instead, the Tibetans have continued to do their best to shine their light, and when practical (when it will ideally get some news coverage), protest their oppressors. They have been seen by the entire world being abused and mistreated as they turn the other cheek.

I suggest, this ALONE has saved their culture from being taken over by the Chinese.

Tibet has gained massive support from millions of people all over the world. If China we're to openly declare war on them, the opposition in the heart's and minds of the people of the world would overwhelm them.

The Karma would literally be too much for the Chinese to bear. Their government would almost definitely begin to fall apart at the seems.

Free Will is the most powerful law on planet earth. Because the majority of spiritual people on this planet have seen Tibetan's peaceful nature, they have made a commitment in their hearts that Tibet will remain. Tibet stands to this day, and will be a bright light in leading a New Earth in the East in large part due to their strategy of turning the other cheek. May we learn by their example in the face of enormous opposition we face.

We don't have the guns, we don't have the technology, but a pure heart is so much more powerful. A New Earth will be built on the Pure in heart.

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For those who's goal is to run people off this site, I hope you are happy.

Pablo's posts were a breath of fresh air to me.

Everyone is going to commit a faux pas now and then.

Do you choose to harp on it ad nauseum or forgive that person and move on?

Think carefully, because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

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Tibet resides only in the hearts of the people....Tibet is no longer a free land and free people. Their culture wiped out & replaced. Perhaps too many cheeks have been turned & still are turned when it comes to Tibet. But the Tibetan people are indeed a wonderful role model for the rest of the world. Since Buddhism came to the West, it has brought us many gifts, & I am thankful for their teachings. I feel very sad about the Tibet situation & don't want to go into a long discussion here about it.

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I believe there is enough left of Tibet for it to be reborn in the near future. I believe great Light will be born in Tibet and India in the near future that will completely transform the East into the Light. :) Yes, it's looking a little sad for now, but it's still there and it's traditions live on alive and well behind closed doors. Most importantly, as you say WaitinginWings, they have not been able to take Tibet out of the hearts of it's people!

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What's to forgive? You had someone who invaded others for no reason and when those people finally came out and revealed that because they were sick and tired of the multiplule faux pas as you call it, with a targeted intent, you are going to blame us for that? You are going to hold us responsible for someone's action of ill will? Is this what you are saying? I didn't ask him to leave. I also didn't ask him for his special treatment of ill will. Are you condoning his actions here by your statements? Obviously you are sending the message that it is alright to super impose your will over others as just a faux pas and now you want special treatment in return. Please. This wasn't just one instance for the record. All it did was create a bunch of unneeded chaos for everyone concerned. To save the trouble on the forgiveness issue, he can forgive himself. I'm not holding anything against him. But I don't have to enable this kind of thing. Use rape as an example. You are still imposing your will over others and is that alright to count that as a faux pas? Maybe rape is a little extreme but it is the same kind of thing that happened here along the lines of targeting certain people when they didn't even submit or provoke this kind of treatment. Sounds to me like someone needs to rethink about the shoes being on the right foot or not. Get real. Your awareness here as to what kind of issues this created could use some nurturing. Did you once put yourself in any of the shoes that was on the receiving end of this? You don't have to answer that. You already did in your post. And you think we are happy about the outcome? Where did that come from? There has been nothing glee full about it. :nono:

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I think most of us here are aware of our responsibility to ourselves & the members of this forum, & try to govern ourselves accordingly. If we slip up, of course we will endure karma, just like pablo. But it depends of what the intent of what you are calling a faux pas? If one acts with ill will intent, then of course there is karma. End of story.

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Just for you Waitinginthewings

:wink2:





Pantyhoser :lmao:

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I will acknowedge that I may not know the whole story.

I have not been on the receiving end of whatever actions caused this
strife and therefore do not have the emotions that go with it.

I am still left wondering if ill intent is the issue, or just lack of consideration
and manners.

I am disturbed by what seems be a trend of intolerance towards others
here and that is what is driving my comments on this.

Perhaps I expect too much from this forum and the people on it.
We are only human after all.

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There is a Bohdhisattva among us who is remarkably original and knows of light and points to it in startling ways. He doesn't even know his own power.
Shunning comes from fear and ignorance. Let's take care here and tread lightly.

Love Always,
Bushycat

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I did not see any evil. I do not wear rose coloured glasses. Evil is a perception. And if evil is headed right toward one, stepping lightly might be wise: leap out of the way. In other words, no fear.
What I meant, though, was if we step lightly,don't step on others' toes here and take off blinders and dwell in compassion, taking the next step might be easier.
There is no reason for me to argue here. That was really all I wanted to add.

With great respect to all,
BC

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I know how you feel BushyCat. I once felt the same way. But one day I did take the blinders off and found that I had let my awareness field to be govern by my experiences instead of my soul. Hopefully you will discover this someday. Maybe your friend who doesn't know his power can teach you. Good luck with jumping out of the way in the meantime.

Extra Blessings to you. :original:

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Nobodies perfect!

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For those who are wondering what a Bodhisattva is: here is a good definition.

Bodhisattva (Tibetan: jang chub sem pa. English: heroic aspirant to enlightenment): The word ‘bodhisattva’ from the Sanskrit language is a Buddhist technical term relating to motivation, qualification, and level of spiritual attainment. It is a primary term found in the Mahayana Sutras as practiced in Northern Buddhism (North India, Himalayas, Central Asia and East Asia) and its meaning is included in the definition of Mahayana Buddhism distinguishing it from other forms of Buddhism such as Theravada of South Asia.

From the point of view of Himalayan art ‘bodhisattva’ is a term used to describe a peaceful god-like appearance based on the deities of the classic Hindu pantheon. As described in the literature of the Sutras and Tantras, male and female figures are portrayed as beautiful, wearing silks and jewels, playful in posture and depicted in the bloom of youth, sixteen years of age. Gender is often difficult to distinguish. Examples of these subjects are Manjushri, Avalokiteshvara and Maitreya for the males and Tara and Sarasvati for the females. Bodhisattva appearance and god-like appearance are synonymous and are generally applied to subjects that are peaceful, non-historical human, non-wrathful, and non-buddha-like in appearance.

As a religious term ‘bodhisattva’ means a heroic aspirant to enlightenment. An individual becomes a ‘bodhisattva’ by taking up the enlightenment thought (bodhichitta) through one of two standard rituals, sometimes called an ordination, following either of the paramount philosophical schools of Yogachara or Madhyamaka. A bodhisattva is a practitioner of the enlightenment thought which is the aspiration to achieve complete enlightenment as a perfect Buddha for the benefit of oneself and all other sentient beings in the universe.

Based on spiritual attainment bodhisattvas are divided into two groups: first, there are ordinary people, men and women who are followers of Northern Buddhism that have participated in the ritual of the enlightenment thought and are now considered to be ordinary bodhisattvas. Second, there are the special students of the Buddha, special bodhisattvas, spoken of in the ancient Mahayana Sutras. Examples of these, referred to by the title of bodhisattva or great (maha) bodhisattva, are Manjushri, Avalokiteshvara and Maitreya. They are known as realized or enlightened bodhisattvas based on a system of ten levels, or grounds of spiritual realization, that progressively lead to complete enlightenment – buddhahood. The ordinary bodhisattvas, following the behaviour of the special bodhisattvas as examples, engage in a course of practice modeled on the system of these ten levels.

The aspiration to reach enlightenment for the benefit of all beings has three special similes to characterize three mental attitudes used in accomplishing the goal of enlightenment. They are King-like, Captain-like and Shepherd-like. The King-like attitude has the intention to lead beings by example and reach enlightenment first - bringing all beings safely along behind. The Captain-like attitude, just like a good ships captain, brings everybody on board together, and as a group safely crosses over to enlightenment. With the Shepherd-like attitude the flocks of beings are ushered ahead while the bodhisattva guides from behind. The bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara is famous for his discourses in the Mahayana Sutras on the Shepherd-like attitude. Shakyamuni Buddha as a bodhisattva was an example of the King-like attitude.

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I feel I love Brook, and Lionhawk, and waitinginthewings responses so very much. I have felt this way many times before. However; I have found that the truth is not always in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes **** is ****.... There was a rather rude joke told amongst some co-workers of my father when he worked in the Saudi Kingdom of two arabs walking down the street.

#1 says, "Hey that looks like ****"

#2 says, "Hey, that feels like ****"

# 1 says, "It tastes like ****"

#2 says, "It must be ****"


All I can say is I know **** when I see it!

Much love,

Unified Serenity

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I feel your love Unified, and Lionhawk I have also felt the same way....however I have to stop laughing so hard before I can tell you all what I have found.....:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Love you guys
Brook

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Brook :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Stop, you're killing me :lmfao:

Love always and forever wherever you find me...

Unified Serenity

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Yes, "thanks for all the fish." (Thanks Dan)

Wow. I just read this thread for the first time. I guess I've been busy.

So. I thought I'd say hello first, "Hello."

I just wanted to say that you can be "Love" and be a "Warrior" at the same time. I think that is our future. Evolve to become your own guide and your own advisor. Be good to others and protect yourselves from anything that your intuition knows is not good for you. That is freedom. That is choice. That's ok. I do not need permission, nor does anyone else.

Being spiritual and enlightened does not mean to dump your intelligence and caution out the window and believe everything you read and are told. We need to be discerning here, and quite frankly we need to be mature. To top it off our paths are different, we need to be respectful.

SO what is true responsibility? What does it mean to be human? How do you define yourself? Do you walk up and say, "I am a buddhist." Do you say, "I believe in Christ?" OR DO YOU DARE TO SAY... how I believe is MY OWN BUSINESS, unless I decide to share it with you. My consciousness is original and belongs to me alone, as I am unique and only GOD knows me. do you say, "and I respect that only God knows you." (That is if you believe in God, and I respect that too.)

My point is... we are never going to completely agree. How wonderful and challenging it all is. But I will agree to this:

I will respect others and their ways of thinking though dissimilar to my own.
I will not let anyone try to tell me how to think, either.
I will talk about my opinions in a nonviolent fashion.
I will respect and treat any disagreements with honor.
I will not back down and be true to myself and my own intuition.
I will always LOVE everyone here.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

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I've been doing some thinking pondering on the problem here and going within. While sitting in my arm chair looking out the window at the clouds as the sun was low with completely grey sky. A whole opened just enough for the sun to shine through right at me. Then it went away sky completly grey again. about 10 minutes latter. two wholes opened and a curved line for a mouth for the sun to shine through. It was like I was being smiled at. then sky was grey again. then 10 minutes latter just before the sun went down. The sun shone through a little opening again before going behind the hill.

I took this as a sign to deliver the inner message wouldn't you?

ok, so...

This duality has meant we have many shades of light and dark. Whilst some souls have signed up to play the dark role some have signed up to play the light. In order to know the light we must also know the dark. At some point in our soul evolution out higer self choose for us to play the dark role. Pablo realises this and is at peace with himself. His veal has been lifted. For those of us that are currently playing the light role could you cope with knowing the dark roles you have played in the past? At some point this will be revealed to you. We need to put the lessons of the past behind us and move forward together. We have learnt our lessons and can now grow up.

The forms of the souls that choose the dark path still reflect the light that shines on them. If we push them right out of the way then there is only a void that remains. If we choose to react to the dark with darkness then there will be nothing to fill the void.

If we don't understand the language of Art we shouldn't dish it. These pictures may have some magic attached (not magik) but what I will do is make the following edict:

"In the name of the AM that I AM never again will the beauty of Art be tainted by the occult dark arts. Never again will any creature be negativly tainted by such images. May the Art itself stand on it's own as what it is... Art. From this day forth so shall it be"

As a co-creater we have the power to do this and this is the choice I make and I hope you will make also. This is our power. So I urge you to use your power for this purpose. This is our future together so lets start now.

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personally I don't have the words to comment on this whole thread, not sure that I even want to so, hate or not, this vid is a dash of what we all need

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I never said I don't like images. I said I have chosen to disable the swirling and jumping ones. This site is filled with beautiful images in all kinds of threads - one of which you started Carol. I think some of the astronomy pictures are simply out of this world. I don't care for the one eye avatars and now I don't have to look at those anymore. But I cannot disable looking at the pictures everyone is posting and still effectively moderate.

I have extensively researched the issue of the images posted by P4BLO, and the sequence of objections before making the statement that I did. It looks like to me the intent was to goad those who voice their objections. I am not talking about one or two pictures - but several dozen. Now P4BLO has apologized and posted more of these pictures on his personal page. So ... as much as I wish this to be a resolved issue and that we all forgive and move on ... well, I guess we'll see ...