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pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-24-2008 12:06 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren (Post 84888)
historycircus, shame on you for creating this option in the poll, and shame on the two who voted that option.

:tongue2: 3 i voted this option:roll1:

Deoxyan 11-24-2008 12:08 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
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Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah (Post 85799)
:tongue2: 3 i voted this option:roll1:

me have just voted the porn option.:tears:

Reunite 11-24-2008 12:10 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Sorry I thought this was a porn site too..my mistake

freekatz 11-24-2008 12:23 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by historycircus (Post 85431)
"Universal health care for none" was supposed to be funny because if elected, I would have absolutely no powers whatsoever to create a good health care plan. Just a joke - not a deep statement of political philosophy. I am sorry if you took offense.

I actually support universal health care in the analog world . . .


Offense? I don't take offense, you are perfectly entitled to your own views. I was just spouting off my thoughts again:smoke:

historycircus 11-24-2008 01:25 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
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Originally Posted by freekatz (Post 85813)
Offense? I don't take offense, you are perfectly entitled to your own views. I was just spouting off my thoughts again:smoke:

Fair enough, and thanks for the thoughts. I would only ask you reconsider not voting - even if that means you vote no.

Dean Plejaren 11-24-2008 01:53 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reunite
I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

Are you calling her a douche bag? How rude is that.....What a lack of respect. Look at your avatar anyway, it is green jumping along like you with no manners. Covered in lemon grass perfume. What are those animals called I've never seen it before? Especially those ones.:lmao:

Reunite 11-24-2008 02:25 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren (Post 85844)
Are you calling her a douche bag? How rude is that.....What a lack of respect. Look at your avatar anyway, it is green jumping along like you with no manners. Covered in lemon grass perfume. What are those animals called I've never seen it before? Especially those ones.:lmao:

I love your sense of humor too Dean :naughty:

KassandraLoves 11-24-2008 03:25 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reunite (Post 85795)
I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...ebag-32667.jpg

mmmmm....LemonGrass.....

bodzoyfa 11-24-2008 03:45 AM

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Exchanger for mod!

Just keepin' it real...

historycircus 11-24-2008 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bodzoyfa (Post 85871)
Exchanger for mod!

Just keepin' it real...

At least you are honest, and at least you voted - how many of our fellow Avalonians can claim both?

:insane::insane::insane::insane:

historycircus 11-24-2008 05:39 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reunite (Post 85795)
I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...ebag-32667.jpg

Your post here has inspired Baggywrinkle to create a thread for our future survival http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...5892#post85892 - may the douches and condoms lead us to a better future.

Vote for me!

Average Joe 11-24-2008 12:55 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Moderating is not something you volunteer for.

Moderating is something you are asked to do, if you have earned the right.

Then comes a choice of whether you want to or not.

Harper 11-24-2008 02:16 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
No one has to participate if they don't want to, why are you goading people with 'at least you voted', who the hell cares about this subject, but you, history? What are you going to do anyway if you do get voted in? Are you going to storm the baricades, create a new schism, give out about it on another forum.

So the following logic is applied. I want to work at google and so I do a poll of all my mates and they all agree with me (accept a few who wouldn't participate because they don't understand how important it is -fools) that I should definately be allowed work there, cos I'm nice and I can do googly things. I tell google this but they are so corrupt that they won't listen, so I start by having a protest but they STILL won't let me work there they must be way more corrupt than we thought before etc...... and the half-truths get progagated and passed on and as the rules of chinese whispers always win out ---

BILL & KERRY ARE TOO CORRUPT TO HONOUR A FORMAL ELECTION blablabla

Elections I might add are secret ballot, so maybe start again and refine your campaign promises and have a trully meaningless election just like the real world.

I have nothing against you personally but this entitlement thing is getting me down..................................

historycircus 11-24-2008 03:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Harper;86033]who the hell cares about this subject, but you, history?[QUOTE]

I kind of hoped that everyone here would, but you and others are making it clear that most do not.

Thanks!

Harper 11-24-2008 03:41 PM

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yeah when I was young I hoped democracy worked and that the people in power would care about me and that when you are nice, nice things happen to you and that I would be free and all the rest.

My point is what do you think will happen when you do get the majority that you currently have?

What are you going to do? You haven't thought it through very well and why put two obvious red herrings in the poll and give out when people choose them.

Would this be yet another ill conceived revolution that changes the faces but not the aims to gain power? If you can't take the good with the bad in your campaign what will happen when you get treated the way the current mods are getting treated................would you be able to be fair to me, now that I openly disagree with you, are you sure?

historycircus 11-24-2008 04:04 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harper (Post 86067)
yeah when I was young I hoped democracy worked and that the people in power would care about me and that when you are nice, nice things happen to you and that I would be free and all the rest.

My point is what do you think will happen when you do get the majority that you currently have?

What are you going to do? You haven't thought it through very well and why put two obvious red herrings in the poll and give out when people choose them.

Would this be yet another ill conceived revolution that changes the faces but not the aims to gain power? If you can't take the good with the bad in your campaign what will happen when you get treated the way the current mods are getting treated................would you be able to be fair to me, now that I openly disagree with you, are you sure?

Harper,

I am truly sorry you feel that you live in world where your voice doesn't count. I could not imagine existing thusly, for to do so is to admit defeat, is it not?

Anyway, I think I have fought very well the urge to combat the ridicule and baiting that has surrounded this election, especially from the folks who, obviously, did not read that big steaming post I left toward the end of page three.

Also, you state that I will get the majority, but by my own criteria, that ain't enough. To win, I must get the consent of at least 1/3 of registered Avalonians. A forty percent lead out of sixty some odd votes is not good enough.

One more thing.

I've taken my lumps here from time to time for coming across as hostile - one loving individual refers to me sometimes as the "angrycircus." I actually like that - the power to feel and express passion for things I care a great deal about. But some of the folks who have posted to this thread seem pretty angry too - and while I celebrate their impassioned spirit, I question if I am the rightful primary recipient, or just someone who got in the way. As Ozzy would say, "Lay your world on me, I can take the weight."

Anyway, vote Historycicus - a man too lazy to start or fight any war, but typically too drunk to ever concede defeat!

Orion Morris 11-24-2008 04:10 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
History, you have personally attacked me before... I dont mind you here on the fourm but I dont think that you have enough self controll to me a moderator.

historycircus 11-24-2008 04:20 PM

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And you have attacked me.

Fair enough, and now we're even.

Thanks for contributing.

Harper 11-24-2008 04:20 PM

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Oh Historycircus,

You make me smile as a fellow willing to say it anyway in the face of whatever is slung your way.

But what are we on the forum for but to change the fact that our voices have failed to overcome the ruling forces.

People have gotten rights and votes and equality whatever subject you like because it became obvious to the ruling classes that they couldn't any longer hope to get away with it. So from to time they concede and then change the goalposts again and we go on our merry way believing that we stuck one to the man. While they have in fact been sticking it to us in a million other ways. Do you know what I mean.

Like for instance if they had realised it a while ago that to make their slaves comfortable and entertained they actually work harder we might all have had a different history but the outcome would've been the same. I am not downhearted one bit by the whole thing, I know that if each person individually sets about to change their own heart then we can't but win. But this may not look like what anyone thinks, there may not be some 'final showdown' its may just feel like the wind changed and we got some fresh air.

take it easy

historycircus 11-24-2008 04:26 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harper (Post 86100)
Oh Historycircus,

You make me smile as a fellow willing to say it anyway in the face of whatever is slung your way.

But what are we on the forum for but to change the fact that our voices have failed to overcome the ruling forces.

People have gotten rights and votes and equality whatever subject you like because it became obvious to the ruling classes that they couldn't any longer hope to get away with it. So from to time they concede and then change the goalposts again and we go on our merry way believing that we stuck one to the man. While they have in fact been sticking it to us in a million other ways. Do you know what I mean.

Like for instance if they had realised it a while ago that to make their slaves comfortable and entertained they actually work harder we might all have had a different history but the outcome would've been the same. I am not downhearted one bit by the whole thing, I know that if each person individually sets about to change their own heart then we can't but win. But this may not look like what anyone thinks, there may not be some 'final showdown' its may just feel like the wind changed and we got some fresh air.

take it easy

No matter how entertained the slaves were, there was always the nascent resentment of reality. This resentment swelled, spread, and creshedoed with war - but slavery was defeated. I see too many people wishing to take the easy way out - to vibrate on to somewhere else - instead of fighting for what is right and good in this reality, this vibration. If it is all a test, I would think that walking out on the exam is not an option.

Thanks for your thoughts, and I meant no disrespect to you earlier.

Peace.

Orion Morris 11-24-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Slavery was defeated? Nope.


Quote:

Originally Posted by historycircus (Post 86105)
No matter how entertained the slaves were, there was always the nascent resentment of reality. This resentment swelled, spread, and creshedoed with war - but slavery was defeated. I see too many people wishing to take the easy way out - to vibrate on to somewhere else - instead of fighting for what is right and good in this reality, this vibration. If it is all a test, I would think that walking out on the exam is not an option.

Thanks for your thoughts, and I meant no disrespect to you earlier.

Peace.


historycircus 11-24-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 86112)
Slavery was defeated? Nope.

Are you a slave Orion Morris? Do your ankles chafe under the shackles of oppression?

Harper 11-24-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
believe me to remain peaceful is not the easy way out at all, and is in fact contrary to my nature. BUT

I won't ever fight for peace, or go to war for justice, or kill one to save thousands. I won't act like a man to get a high powered job and I don't believe that you have to be in it to win it.

I will defend the sidelines as thats a great place to observe. None taken by the way, History, am of the school of thought that debate is not arguing.

best of luck to ya !!

Orion Morris 11-24-2008 05:03 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Well I bet we could find at least a few million people over in Asia and Africa who would beg to differ.

America also has 10% of the worlds population, and 90% of its prisoners...
These prisoners work for free and have to do what ever they are told....
They have more slaves now then they have ever had before...

And another thing... America full supports China... and countless other countries who have more than just slavery occuring...

Slavery is not gone... it has just changed into a more acceptable shape.

Here is a quote from Immortal Technique

"Our people are the product of genocide and slavery
Everything in the ghetto was how it was made to be
Designed in a process, Prison Industrial Complex
Niggaz transformed into numbers and objects
We pay the devil rent for living in hell"

historycircus 11-24-2008 05:30 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 86133)
Well I bet we could find at least a few million people over in Asia and Africa who would beg to differ.

America also has 10% of the worlds population, and 90% of its prisoners...
These prisoners work for free and have to do what ever they are told....
They have more slaves now then they have ever had before...

And another thing... America full supports China... and countless other countries who have more than just slavery occuring...

Slavery is not gone... it has just changed into a more acceptable shape.

Here is a quote from Immortal Technique

"Our people are the product of genocide and slavery
Everything in the ghetto was how it was made to be
Designed in a process, Prison Industrial Complex
Niggaz transformed into numbers and objects
We pay the devil rent for living in hell"

As a candidate that respects sovereignty, I would say that it is the people's duty in China and Africa to rise up - not just the slaves themselves, but the communities in which it takes place. The Chinese would argue with you Orion - they see our system as the epitome of slavery. And I think that outright slavery is more noble than what we have here in the U.S. or what exists in China, because at least in an openly slave system the slaves know they are slaves, not taught to believe they are free.

I agree, we have a higher prison population than China and Russia - and eighty percent of our inmates are there for drug "crimes," not violations of personal property or civil rights. However, I've had friends in prison, and there wasn't much work getting done there. They had cable, pool tables, free internet access, free gym facilities, etc. I don't see much prison "slavin" going on outside of our high-rise office buildings, if you catch my drift.

I don't think "America" is unified enough to support anything at this juncture; but I believe you are spot on if we replace "America" with "U.S. foreign policy makers and corporate interests."

Cheers.

And vote!

Orion Morris 11-24-2008 05:36 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Havnt you ever heard of a prison factory?

Quote:

Originally Posted by historycircus (Post 86143)
As a candidate that respects sovereignty, I would say that it is the people's duty in China and Africa to rise up - not just the slaves themselves, but the communities in which it takes place. The Chinese would argue with you Orion - they see our system as the epitome of slavery. And I think that outright slavery is more noble than what we have here in the U.S. or what exists in China, because at least in an openly slave system the slaves know they are slaves, not taught to believe they are free.

I agree, we have a higher prison population than China and Russia - and eighty percent of our inmates are there for drug "crimes," not violations of personal property or civil rights. However, I've had friends in prison, and there wasn't much work getting done there. They had cable, pool tables, free internet access, free gym facilities, etc. I don't see much prison "slavin" going on outside of our high-rise office buildings, if you catch my drift.

I don't think "America" is unified enough to support anything at this juncture; but I believe you are spot on if we replace "America" with "U.S. foreign policy makers and corporate interests."

Cheers.

And vote!


Harper 11-24-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
yep have to agree with orion, there are still chain gangs my friend, the first time I saw prisioners working on roadsides with guns pointed at them I nearly threw up. Then again my favourite was to have them working on a beach. You know I think that might just be the most humiliating thing I ever saw.

They is work, maybe each state is different...............

historycircus 11-24-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 86152)
Havnt you ever heard of a prison factory?

Yes, yes, the making of liscense plates and all that - we could throw in trash pickup crews too.

My point is that there is far too little of that going on in our prison system - if you kill someone, rape someone, rob them, etc., you should be worked like a dog.

My only regret is that 80% who are caught up in the system, who have no place there. But that is not the prison system's problem, it is a legislative problem. There are states doing it now - 11 state legislatures at the forefront of ending the "War on Drugs/Thought." Visit the NORML website:

http://norml.org/

And then donate a few bucks to them. They actually get people waving signs in the street, and apply pressure to the legislature.

Orion Morris 11-24-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Yes, you are right we need people waving signs in the streets and change the laws of victimless crimes...


Thank you for that link and the article

historycircus 11-24-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 86165)
Yes, you are right we need people waving signs in the streets and change the laws of victimless crimes...


Thank you for that link and the article

You are welcome, and thanks for voting!

Orion11 11-24-2008 09:03 PM

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And I think that outright slavery is more noble than what we have here in the U.S. or what exists in China, because at least in an openly slave system the slaves know they are slaves, not taught to believe they are free.
wtf? .... really?

sorry, theres nothing noble about it.

historycircus 11-24-2008 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 86238)
wtf? .... really?

sorry, theres nothing noble about it.

On historycircus's sliding scale of nobility, 0 equalling none and 10 equaling God, I would give honest slavery a .00000002, and hidden slavery a .00000001. How about that?

You respond to an awful lot of my stuff negatively for a guy who doesn't care a lot.

Orion11 11-24-2008 09:17 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
lol
i was just wondering where you were coming from with that.

and just becasue i dont care if your a moderator or not, doesnt mean i dont care about other things.

I would respond the same way to someone else had they said it... even my Father. lol.

it has nothing to do with "you" or "your stuff".

if "god" said something that sounded off, I would question 'it' as well.

its not personal. lol

Peace

SIR GALAHAD 11-24-2008 11:41 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 85745)
no,

just more childish b.s. that helps no one.

:mfr_omg:

Orion11 11-24-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
lol

right.

KassandraLoves 11-25-2008 01:07 AM

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...dance your cares away....worry's for a'nother day...let the music play....DOWN ON FRAGGLE ROCK!!!

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/image...bo_Fraggle.jpg


.hahahahaha.........just trying to lighten up the mood here...

Orion11 11-25-2008 02:25 AM

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hahahaha!!! :D niice

Fraggles were the isshhh!! lol, i used to love them..

is that...?wembley?! lol..

i forget the names of most.. gobo was one i think... haha

id love to get some fraggle mods up in this crib! lol

raulduke 11-25-2008 03:22 AM

Re: Moderator Election
 
So I chose the "I dont care..." option, but I'm a little wary of anyone who wants to be a mod at this point. Seems like a fairly tedious job w/ very little reward.

If your in it to help this place w/ that in mind then I commend your intentions, but did you happen to read Mary Lou/Argante's warning: Potential Mod Thread?

If any of that stuff is true, then best of luck, and be careful what you wish for.

Now on to the matter at hand: Fraggle friggin Rock!
Thanks for the levity Kassandra.

Fraggle Rock immediately reminds me of my grandparents house in chicago. All of us kids couldn't wait to see grandma and grandpa, but fraggle rock on HBO sealed the deal. (Mom and dad wouldn't spring for premium cable That's so weird that they started on HBO). They were the "A" grandparents for sure.

Long live all muppets and the Henson name.

http://home.no.net/fraggel/ppl/Jim%2...20fraggles.jpg

Orion11 11-25-2008 04:40 AM

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haha, niice :)

well said raul! i agree man.

and Ive got a sweet fraggle rock DVD if you want it. lol

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...ny_fraggle.jpg haha

historycircus 11-25-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Moderator Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raulduke (Post 86411)
So I chose the "I dont care..." option, but I'm a little wary of anyone who wants to be a mod at this point. Seems like a fairly tedious job w/ very little reward.

If your in it to help this place w/ that in mind then I commend your intentions, but did you happen to read Mary Lou/Argante's warning: Potential Mod Thread?

If any of that stuff is true, then best of luck, and be careful what you wish for.

Now on to the matter at hand: Fraggle friggin Rock!
Thanks for the levity Kassandra.

Fraggle Rock immediately reminds me of my grandparents house in chicago. All of us kids couldn't wait to see grandma and grandpa, but fraggle rock on HBO sealed the deal. (Mom and dad wouldn't spring for premium cable That's so weird that they started on HBO). They were the "A" grandparents for sure.

Long live all muppets and the Henson name.

http://home.no.net/fraggel/ppl/Jim%2...20fraggles.jpg

Tedious and narrowly rewarding is what I hear, but I doubt the job of "moderator" at any forum, from Avalon to recipieswap.com, is filled with much glory. Again, I would say that if my election accomplishes anything, it will be to gain support for an Avalonian picked "mod" or two. It would be nice to win the job, but I'll settle for making the point.

So vote Historycircus - hey, you could do worse, huh?


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