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Imagine the Scale of Consciousness from 1 (lowest) to 1000 (highest). Everything that exists within the human sphere of existence Vibrates somewhere on that scale.

Let's say the Maximum "Level of Consciousness" that qualifies an individual for a "Negative Harvest" is 40 on the Scale.

The "elite" are doing their very best to get a "negative harvest" and must thus keep themselves below 40.

Equally, the Minimum "Level of Consciousness" that qualifies an individual for a "Positive Harvest" is 330 on the Scale.

This is what many people have come here to achieve.

The range of "luke warm" individuals that will have to get further lessons in "3rd Density" thus spans from 41 to 329 on the Scale.

This is the range where the majority of the people of this Planet still find themselves.

Hope this helps to clarify the terms some more...

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I see WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY by Hidden Hand as a trap for those who do not have a Creationist believe. It is amazing how apart people have drifted apart. The believe that Lucifer is some Good Fellow could not be further from the truth. This Window of Opportunity equals to NEW AGE all day. The "Galatic Federation" equals to a great Deception. "Now the Spirit expressly (specifically) says that in later times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron." Let no man decive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. This Window of Opportunity should be question in the Religious aspect of it. I can honestly say that I am intrigued by some of the statements as far as secret societies, media contol, etc. Just a fare warning, don't be fooled by the new Satanic culture. Save your soul the right way. Don't be ashame of our true Lord, and savior Jesus Christ. God Bless, a Warrior of THE ONE AND ONLY GOD!

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Hey Kelphi, is that you ?

Your (first) post (on this forum) has zero resonance for me. Just like Kelphi's posts. I just thought I would share that. My apologies if that sounds overly negative, but its the truth for me, and I am just exercising my freewill in rejecting everything you have just said as untrue.

If you want to preach and save souls in the manner you profess, you are probably best going somewhere where people want to be preached to and want saving.

Despite that, thanks for bumping this thread. I have just enjoyed re-reading it. One of the better threads on Avalon ;)

A..

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This is pure fabrication, this is not a Bloodline Illumni. " It is required of me by The Law of our Creator " , that just cracks me up, absolutely ridiculous, you have to be brain-dead to believe this to be the Real-Deal.
Why do people keep falling for stunts like this.

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Thank you much for your post Peaceful Warrior. All well said. I feel that the reason we are on this forum in the first place is to help each other. I'm tired of the negativity and attacks on fellow avalonians as well. Everyone has the right to post what they believe to be "their truths". If you don't agree...no worries. Move on to something else that "fits" better.

Personally I'd love to see Avalon continue to grow and flourish. I feel very priviledged to know of this forum and to read posts by so many thought provoking and extremely intelligent people. I believe the spirit in which this forum originated is that of love cooperation sharing of ideas and experiences and to get ready for our new world. We need to be using our energies for these things as well as informing as many folks as we can that will listen.

****I apologize for not using any commas. My puppy stepped on my keyboard and the key and tiny spring went flying off. I haven't taken the time to get it repaired yet.*****

Love and Peace to All!

Ready2BPeaceful

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That's a good one - was this before or after he ate your homework ?

:)

As for the rest of your post, comma's or otherwise, all very well said. :trumpet:

A..

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let's discuss this comment

it is absolutely amasing
how what is truly obvious
is hidden right out in front !!!

and, almost everyone iS miSSing it

love/susan
the eXchanger

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The Hidden Hand says:
PART ONE
"I am double-bound in this duty.
It is required of me by The Law of our Creator
to offer this opportunity to you at this time,
though I am also bound
by the Law of (planetary) Free Will
********************************
PART TWO
and by Family Oaths,
that there is only so much I am able to say."

the eXchanger says:
karmically speaking--
ON PART ONE

there is a monad in play
(jailer/prisoneer)
if the jailer
does NOT provide
the prisoneer, with bait,
that can enable the prisoneer
to break free of the contract
then, the actual contract, has karmic implications
for the jailer ;)

(there's more - i had typed, and, i will have to type it tomorrow)

but, it is interesting to discuss

love/susan
the eXchanger

PS; ON PART TWO

hidden hand, has sworn "blood" oaths
with his/her own blood family / or the inner circle-or round,
that he/she belongs to -- and, breaking them
whether they are right actions/or wrong actions
also has implications too

(more on this tomorrow)

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Hidden Hand does lie about his "family" true intention/purpose. There is no such a thing as "Evil exist to help the ascension of 3rd dimension souls". There is no purpose for evil deeds in Creation. The purpose of all souls, including the ones trying to convince us of their greater spirituality, is to express Life itself on its way back to the Creator. No one is responsible for anyone else then him/herself, except Creator is responsible for all.

It is true that we should not hate the haters, kill the killers. But we must understand that they are not here to help us to ascend by bringing "tools" of evil kinds in our hands. It does not help us to ascend, it does just the opposite. Where are the Laws of Creation in his teaching?

Namaste, Steven

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I am glad you pointed this out.

Oaths... if Hidden Hand was truly a higher spiritual being, he would not make oaths.

Everything in Creation is ever evolving. The only thing that does not change in the Universe is transformation itself. Making an oath goes against this basic deep Universal Law.

We can make commitment, but not oath. There is a difference.

Namaste, Steven

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It's unbelieveable, but how can we create "compasion" without it. Compasion being one of the strongest eneriges we posess, and need to combat "service to self"

btw Steve I'm not saying we need evil, I'm just suggesting it creates a stronger form of compassion.
I could do without Evil rearing it's ugly head :shocked:

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Thank you for this opportunity Brook. The Creation is well made. Compassion is the sign the love one feels for others manifests when others suffer. But in a world without evil, love also manifest for others but not in compassion form, which include a form of mercy. Compassion is love taken in a situation where the loved is suffering/stopped to evolve. When there is no suffering, love manifest itself without the suffering element.

The ones who have purposefully taken the path defying the Universal Laws of Creation brings an halt to the natural evolving course of the human souls. It is right that it challenges us to be the best we can on the winning side. But it is not the hidden purpose of evil. It does brings opportunities to be better, but mostly educates us to stay locked with them in an ever-ending loop of incarnating always in a low density where evil can not affect the spiritual densities.

We are physically in the 3rd density, but naturally we have a deep connection with the spiritual world in us. A link the "controllers" have purposefully cut eons of time ago. So, "their own intended purpose" is to keep us locked with them in here, but also more importantly, to convince us to cut the natural link we have with the source inside ourselves. Which assure the impossibility to evolve again to higher dimension, closer to the source. But a cut is never totally performed... There is no blade to definitely cut the link Creator has crafted when a given soul was brought to existence.

Namaste, Steven

edit: I just read your "edited". Yes, I did understand your initial thought. And I totally agree with you, it shows how creation is able to change darkness into light. Sincerely, your post gave me an opportunity to get deeper into the topic. :thumb_yello:

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Thanks for the reply Steve
well worded :thumb_yello:
Peace
Brook

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An act is an act. A good act and/or an "evil" act are still acts within creation. It is obvious to me that you can't have a positive path without a negative. It is a simple question of logic. We are the ones who choose STO or STS, and are held responsible karmically for our choices.

Hidden hand and who he represents, together with Ra and all the others are all simply catalyst to shake us up and get us moving along quicker. Why? Because the window of opportunity in this phase of our existence is closing. The harvest is coming, those that tend the fields are doing the best jobs that they can do.

I expect to see more from HH or equivalent next year - and if there is still an internet around to read it, I will read it with interest.

A..

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The famous Zen-Buddhist Patriarch, Bodhidharma, said it like this:

At some point the wide-open Awareness/Heart contracted into the fearbased, "protected" and seemingly separate ego/individual expression of itself to such a degree that finding back to Awareness/Oneness/Love became very hard. When Awareness/Light withdraws it gives away its power to fear/darkness. Thus, it allows "negativity/evil/darkness" to come in and "run the show". This is the state humanity has been in for God knows how long. A fearbased/"protected" state of illusory separation.

"Evil" does not come un-invited, it comes to fill the void of self-responsibility. Everyone on this planet is under the influence of "evil" - of the perception of "separation". Collectivly giving away the power of Awareness/Light/Love has over time created the planet we have today. A house that is never cleaned, and where the garbage is never taken out, is bound to attract rats/parasites/dis-ease. Clean the house good, and take out the garbage and the rats/parasites/dis-ease will be gone by themselves as there is no food for them there any more.

Humanity must have choosen to contract into fear-based, "protected" and thus seemingly separate entities around the time when real free will was introduced. The survival of the fittest/strongest became the norm. It could have choosen otherwise, and the story here would have been very different. Power/Awareness that is collectivly given away must be collectivly reclaimed for any real change to occur. This is what we are seeing today. As we are cleansing our own individual house from all accumulated garbage, the rats/parasites are forced to withdraw more and more. Sooner or later we will realise that there is no separation - that we are all living in the same House called a Uni-verse. Everyone has been living in their own pile of garbage for so long that we have been isolated from each other. When the walls of garbage come down, the illusion of separation will disappear with it.

Everyone in Existence serves the One. Either through STO or through STS (on this planet mostly through a combination of the two). In the end there is no separation. How could it be otherwise?

Love and gratitude for this opportunity to correct past mistakes and grow in Spirit,

Sanat

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Evil deeds does not represent the negative polarity in creation. Negative and positive polarity or "duality" is possible because Love may only manifest in all it's potential through a lover and a loved. So you need two, in between Love circulates.

Evil is not part of duality, it tries to make us believe it so, but it is only an absence of Love.

Hidden Hand wants to present himself as a good guy disguised in bad guy. The truth is the opposite. We evolve in a highly manipulated mental environment and the purpose of the HH message or Ra message is to keep the searcher of truth on their track.

Evil disguised in an illuminated being is the most subtle form of evil, able to mislead the "awakened". It is part of the intervention in Humanity.

There is no higher spiritual being coming from a close dimension to the source with the mission to do evil deeds on Earth. They are coming from a lower dimension. They would not ascend into 4th density. The Universal Laws will simply logically work on them as well. There is no negative harvest, even if it make sens or have a certain logic in it's concept. Even the word harvest is not proper, because it implies that the harvested are like food, helpless, victim of a greater power.

The truth is that we all deserves God's Love because we are God's Love. And the evil manipulators wants us to stay stuck with them. They want us to forget the link we have with Creator living into us. Because this presence can not be manipulated.

Namaste, Steven

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I dont really know enough to critique the validity of everything Hidden Hand said.

The game wouldn't be this good if we knew how it worked. But that message really acted as a catalyst for me and I took nothing but positives from it.

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Exactly.

I dont follow HH, Ra or anyone. I am extremely grateful for the efforts they have made and the ideas/information they provide and the opportunity for me to see and even sometimes ask, questions that need answers. Ultimately the only person I follow is myself, its the only person I can trust 100%.

All information that is presented has the elements of a "game" that is the only way it can be done because it mandates discrimination in order to avoid free-will violation at a macro level. It is the only way that these beings can speak the way they do. So, when discorses of this nature are made available to many people, you will always see a charade of some form. With Ra it was the "appurtunances" at Carla's head, with HH it is the mystique of the blood-line and the Q/A format on a clique forum.

You will never get "proof" in such work. Any "proof" you encounter will be on an individual basis only.

All they are trying to do is shake you awake! I don't care who does it, but by God it certainly does need doing, now more than ever!

A..

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I only share what is working for me. At some point I realized something that can be crystallised into this thought/concept:

Every circumstance/situation at any time can be uniquely and consciously interpreted by each individual in such a way as to maximize the spiritual growth of each individual.

I find that this is the essence of Self-Responsability. A person living by that understanding can never be made into a victim of anything/anyone. Is this not true freedom in itself? I find that it is applicable on microlevel as well as macrolevel. That is why I agree when HH and RA talks about "catalyst". Not because they say so, but because it is my own experience that this is so. Most of my juvenile years here was lived in great fear/anguish/depression/shame etc. At some point the above "principle" was understood, and from that point on my growth/evolvement out of it happened very rapidly. Some call it the "Rubber-band-effect". I have also seen this happen in people that I am familiar with.

I guess we came here agreeing to "take in" a portion of darkness and transmute that into Light. Thus contributing to the overall cleansing process of the Mass Consciousness and the Planet. Most people are simply not Aware/conscious of the fact that they are not responsible for what "happens", but rather how they respond to whatever happens. Without Awareness of the presence of choice, each person simply think that their "first reaction/perception" of anything is the only and thus "correct perception". Usually this "first perception/reaction (which is often a very conditioned/biased reaction/perception)" is judgmental in nature. The "wrong" is in the world or in someone else, not in their very own perception. This is the socalled "blindspot" which exist in everyone. We see the splinter in other peoples eyes, and not the log in our own. The world and socalled "others" should serve as a mirror so we can carefully remove our own log. This is how it is designed. Most people sadly fail to realize this. I am not aiming this at anyone here as I think most people are aware of it here. But it is good to be reminded some times also.

Gratitude and Love,

Sanat

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:thumb_yello:.

I thank you both Sanat and Anchor for your thoughts on this important topic. It makes me contemplate deeper 'Existence' in the light of the Universal Laws of Creation.

The Universal Laws encompass all aspect of creation, all times, all dimensions. They always work anywhere anytime. That is why I do not agree with the core of the HH message.

If one does, intentionally/purposefully, evil deeds, the Laws will work and bring him/her more opportunities to stay stuck into a low vibrational dimension where victim/oppressor/savior consciousness rules. He/she will not ascend.

It is true that suffering/affliction gives opportunities to be aware. But it is not necessary. Emotion, relationship, understanding, contemplation, commitments, etc... all of these makes one to be more aware. What is important is not the quantity of experience lived, but the quantity of experience 'digested', 'integrated'.

On the other hand, if one believe suffering/affliction exist to make us aware, the Universal Laws will work and bring these kind of experience in ones life. I think humanity had enough of it already, and we are more then deserving to enter into a New Paradigm where oppressor/victim/savior consciousness are things of the past quickly forgotten.

In order to get into this New Paradigm, when the windows open, one have to left aside all components of oppressor/victim/savior consciousness in his/her own consciousness/behavior. Because in this New Paradigm, the consciousness is of personal responsibility, understanding that Love/Respect self, others and all Life are keys to maintain existence.

It is not about service-to-self and service-to-other. Every single day our action is a mix of both of them. One can be in service-to-other all the time, but unconsciously does it to be loved/recognized, thus might be maintaining a kind of consciousness that mirrors victimhood. It gets worse if he/she neglects his/herself while working on "others". If it was true, one could begin to serve everyone around with the purpose to save him/herself. The Universe can not be tricked this way, a human maybe, but not the Universe. I suggest balance and "listening to your own inner barometer". I understand very well this concept, but do not emphasize on it, especially do not put percentage in it. That is why I smell a purposeful intention to mislead in this concept, not by those who believe it, but by those who created it.

It is more about the conscious intention to live another kind of experience. Where humanity would evolve freely without the control of an elite 'worshipers of all that goes against Creation' who wants us to be stuck with them. A world where freewill of humanity is respected, where evolution is possible, where we can reach our full potential of Human becoming and ultimately where humans learn to respect freewill of all that exist to let evolving around him/herself.

Namaste, Steven

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Thanks for this clarification of your thoughts, Steven. Very appreciated!

You say:I agree, and this is also the direction we are heading in. Indeed, we are well underway already. But some will take longer than others. This is only natural. To clarify: I don't believe suffering is "necassary" as such, but rather it comes about as a consequence of "free will choices". There is karmic order in everything as the Universal Laws are always active. This means that things must be as they "should be" at all times (which again does not mean that things should not change for the better of course). Gravity is the same for everyone, but some stumble and hurt themselves on the path whereas others walk gracefully about...

The Uni-verse is in dynamic Balance at all times. Given time all imbalances will be evened out, and this experience of "evening out" amounts to spiritual evolution. It is what we are all involved in here at this time.

You also say:The concept of StO and StS is always subject to the level of each individuals understanding (or Level of Consciousness). Some will interpret it totally literally like religous people interpret the Bible. By discussing it we can hopefully help to clarify this concept.

Our only "duty" is towards our own Awakening/Expansion. Existence takes care of the rest through "synchronisities". There is nothing to "do" except keep working on ourselves - keep expanding and growing in Spirit. StO is misunderstood as a "doing" (although there is nothing wrong with "good deeds" of course). StO flows naturally/effortlessly and becomes more "efficient" the higher you climb on the Ladder of Consciousness. Doing StO work because you "want" to be StO is in reality very colored by StS. StO flows effortlessly from "who you have become/are", but there is always a kind of correlation in this relationship. It's more the quality of your "StO" that matters, and not so much the quantity. True StO does not expect anything in return at all. It is effortlessly being who you are. In most everyone that amounts to a combination yes, although the "percentage" varies greatly at this time.

The main focus should always be upon working on ourselves. If someone is interested; sharing is great. Planting seeds is the most one can do in the lukewarm, if there is a minimum of openness/receptivity.

But I find that a warm and loving smile combined with all the Presence/Awareness you can muster "launched" at a receptive stranger does much more good than any "information". This is actually fun also as it can be practiced all day long. I find that women in general are more receptive to this than men (as it probably can be misunderstood easily, so be "careful" hehe). Women are still more openhearted/receptive in nature than the male on this planet at this time. When the situation is "right" I simply allow it to happen. I have worked as a cashier in a supermarked myself, and I know from experience that only one customer (among the hundreds that I was in contact with each shift) that is of the Light, and takes you into the Presence; is enough to make a huge difference. Imagine if every customer was like that... Most would rather complain about paying 10 cent for a plastic bag or other silly things. hehe. I learned a lot about people working there that is for sure...

Nice to have this discussion either way:original: Thanks

In the Light,

Sanat

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First of all, thank you for your sharing. I really appreciate your thoughts.

This is exactly what I have in mind. The quality and genuineness of your behavior toward others matters. This is what the Universe sees in one's contribution in the global consciousness.

Be blessed my friend, Steven

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Yes, Steven, I think we must be blessed to be here at this time:original: Have a really nice holiday now!

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There was a mention of the Mayan calender in the HH message, which I read up on the other day through another link on Avalon and found the idea very interesting. The whole concept of changing how we view the procession of time from the Gregorian calender to a lunar calender made alot of sense to me. I was wondering if anybody has tried this system. The link is http://www.tortuga.com/

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I do think their is some good info in the HH material.

Having negativity does help appreciate the positive. You ever heard a football coach say a team has to learn how to lose before it knows how to truly win!!

I personally would likely have not awakened if it were not for the luciferian act of 9-11. It first made me more spiritual because of fear and empathy, then it awakened me further by the realization of the bigger picture.

As much as I dislike it, I can see how it all comes together in unity, just as a magnet has a north and south pole. Without each other you have a piece of metal.

:trumpet:

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I guess all this Clearing work and training I am doing is raising my awareness in certain spheres and whereas before I was not very interested in the Hidden Hand data it seems easier for me know that I have gone and seen some thing for myself in my Clearing sessions.

HH wrote:
In the Beginning, there is The Infinite One. This is the Source of All. Intelligent Infinity. It is the undifferentiated absolute. Within It, is unlimited potential, waiting to 'become'. Think of it as the "uncarved block" of your Taoist traditions.

Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself, seeks to experience Itself, and The One Infinite Creator is 'born', or 'manifest' (This appears to your 3rd Density comprehension as "Space"). In effect, the 'Creator', is a point of focused Infinite Consciousness or awareness, into Infinite Intelligent Energy. The One Infinite Creator also becoming self aware, seeks too to experience Itself as Creator, and in so doing, begins the next step down in the Creational spiral. The One Infinite Creator, in focusing It's Infinite Intelligence, becomes Intelligent Energy (which you could call the Great Central Sun), and divides Itself into smaller portions of Itself, that can then in turn experience themselves as Creators (or Central Suns). In other words, each Central Sun (or Creator) is a 'step down' in Conscious awareness (or distortion) from the Original 'thought' of Creation. So "In the beginning" was not "The Word", but Thought. The Word, is thought expressed and made manifest as Creator.

There is Unity. Unity is All there is. Infinite Intelligence, and Infinite Energy. The two are One, and within them, is the potental for all Creation. This state of Consciousness could be termed as 'Being'.
Infinite Intelligence does not recognize it's 'potential'. It is the undifferentiated absolute. But Infinite Energy recognizes the potential of 'becoming' all things, in order to bring any desired experience into 'being'.

Intelligent Infinity can be likened to the central 'Heartbeat' of Life, and Infinite Energy as the Spiritual 'Life-blood' (or potential) which 'pumps out' for the Creator to form the Creation.

From what I have been able to view of my own "hyperhistory" that took me back to the beginning he speaks of, this "Single Deity" or state of Sovereignty it true for every one of us, and not just a single "Single Deity". The "game" is to keep you from finding this out for yourself and the science of keeping you otherwise occupied has already been written and perfected.

Yes, he is right, if you are on this planet, then you have a lotta lotta clearing work to do to sequentially uncollapse yourself from all your previous identities until you are cleared of fixation and polarities and you once again realize yourself as "Single Deity", a sovereign being.

I am not a member of his family yet I in my Clearng work revisited the first point in this universe cycle where I decided to become an energy producing unit. I even installed the mechanism whereby I would go reactive everytime certain things occurred. I had to Clear that out first.

Even though I have installed an identity on this planet and am still in great need of continuing my clearing work, once I did the work to clear my fixation on a certain Game Lord I knew then that I had made the decision to step outside the Stream of Life, as I so choose.

Because he wants you to stay in the negative polarity, or seniorly to that simply to stay polarized, he cannot want your sanity, and he cannot introduce the idea of Clearing Modalitities except in a cynical manner, so far gone is this being.

He moves further and further away from himself as Single Deity, so the joke in the end might be on him if he does not pay attention. Hoisted on his own petard, as the idiom goes.

The one rule that this Universe seems to not have is "The right to one's own sanity". That is the "out clause" they are using to get around the rule of "The Right to One's own Self-Determinism" and "The Right to Leave a Game".

There is a two-pronged way to handle this:

Do your chosen Clearing path as if your spiritual life depended on it (it does),

and, besides helping others to do their Clearing work,

Get up to the ability level where you can be calmly aware of and clear this sort of interfering being by "Being" them and processing them effectively while "Being" them. This is very subtle and very powerful. Do this on a gradient so that you do not outstrip your cleared capabilities.

I already overreached my abilities a few days ago and received some attention that I was not quite able to handle as it was occurring -- nothing that I cannot handle with my current resources, but sort of a pain in the neck for about the last week. It is all for good though because I will simply put more integrity into my processing.

But overall, what I am seeing is that once I address a being in terms of "What incident are you sitting in...?" whilst I am being that being (there is a partner running me on this process while I am being that being) I've just helped one more planetary Satrap happily opt for early retirement because he "self-realized".

I first learned of this humane and effective approach to Clearing in a PEAT course.

As for telling us that we are all pieces of Lucifer, okay I can have that. I've seen all kinds of beings or archetypes that I collapsed into on my way down the spiral. A good clearing process will easily uncollapse one from the Lucifer viewpoint or any other viewpoint/archetype one created.

A basic truth I saw is that if I have attention on it I created it and my clearing processes simply help me to go and look and see and duplicate the first time I did that. Then the creation becomes smaller and smaller and less fixed and, "Poof, where did it go?", lol. Many times a related
fixed polarity decision also goes "Poof".

If you cleared out all of your fixed polarities what would HH and his poor family have to get a handle on you? They wouldn't be able to get you excited and involved anymore. Game over.

In the endpoint they would thank you it is just that they are further away than you are of realizing their Single Deity/Sovereignty and are doing exactly what HH told you not to do -- look for the God you are and not outward for The Creator.

In a way I make this sound all simple and I guess up unto the first "Clear" milestone it is fairly straighforward. What comes next is for myself somewhat uncharted territory, but we can keep it as simple or as complex as we choose.

Hope that helps balance out the distorted picture HH gave out. The only way he would ever tell you you are Creator Gods is if he knew you would never do the work and overcome the apparent barriers to realize it for yourselves.

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On 10-30-2009, 08:11 PM I started a new thread - Beyond 21/12/2012 (Hidden Hand) - where I quoted an excerpt of Hidden Hand's answer to a question about 21/12/2012.

I did so, because I was quite impressed by the Hidden Hand Dialogues, originally posted at ATS, where I had found the material. By starting this thread, I wanted to tickle the curiousity of those to whom that particular excerpt would be a trigger to dig a little deeper into the 'Hidden Hand material'.

I think the 'Hidden Hand Dialogues' are a 'must read' and worthwhile to take notice of.

After I digested the parts I found of interest to me, I turned my focus on something completely different.

Instinctively, or call it intuition, I think that the Puppet Master behind Hidden Hand and the 'Galactic Federation' / 'Aton' etc. stuff, is one and the same person, namely Supriem David Rockefeller.

And no, I don't think he's writing any of it himself.
But he has the means, motive and money to make it happen.

And this guy is for real. Flesh and (blue)blood(ish).

Re: The 'Hidden Hand' a PROPER & 'POSITIVE' discussion of the material ONLY here!
 

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