Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I think Bill and Kerry are doing a fantastic job, two people with nothing but an honest wish to find the truth!

and to be quite honest, they have put the money where their mouth is, dared to take what started out as a small side-project further than anyone else would ever consider, and actually made a bigger difference than most people that are merely observers and consumers in the world we live in today.

They sure has made a difference in my life when it comes to 'waking up' to definitive, certain aspects of the power structures, and I have been an active seeker for spiritual truth for 15 years.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Didn't Kerry say: "question, question everything"?

That is sound advice ! :original:

My guts tell me that these two, Bill and Kerry, are genuine in their intentions ! :thumb_yello:
They are doing a fabulous job !


Many blessings to Bill and Kerry! :harp:

NAMASTE

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Well said Bill.
We encourage you and Kerry to keep doing that job.

And there are so many witnesses that if anything happens, we will know that the Governement is the first one to take the accusations.
You got over 3 Million witnesses already.

By the way, when are you going to post the new Robert Dean video?

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

The moment you say "Why doesn't ____ do ____?" or in this instance "Why doesn't TPB close down Project Camelot?" you have used your conditioned limited thinking to assume that you know the motives of another.

This is an arrogance if you believe you can understand a persons motives and even a greater arrogance if you believe you can understand the motives of a global organization.

This is the same argument "If there are aliens, then why don't they land on the White House lawn?"

Well, its because you believe that landing on the White House lawn is the most appropriate action for an Alien to contact us.

You have to stop assuming motives in other people that match your current understanding.

Entertain motives in others that you completely don't understand.

Most of the time, if it doesn't make sense, its because you don't have all the information when dealing with logical people.

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And hackers seem to have posted Sarah Palin's e-mail now on the web ( http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contend...h_Palin_hacked ).

http://media.arstechnica.com/news.me.../family2-1.jpg

Only those that have watched the 4400 will probably get this humor:
"Don't **** off the baby".

Imagine the soul in that Palin prodgeny, wondering, just how strange the adventure may become!

It seems to me the only security that matters is purity of heart and intentions, then, regardless of where we tread, we do so with grace.


~ namaste ~

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---

oh... Zynox that's a beautiful thing to say ~

(How funny, just about the same time as your post here,
i posted one at 'Spirituality'.... and I too, mention Palin, and souls....) ; )



PS--- Not only do i think Bill and Kerry are geniuses, I believe they ARE

'genuine' souls...... ! :wub2:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

read through the threads and havent heard this quote yet....

"actions speak louder than words"

And so far their actions and intentions have not been degenerative in the least... possibly misdirected by others, but who is to say.

Anyway their actions are exposing degenerative actions of some of the higher echelons. And this to me answers the origional question.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

And you know that it's a fool that plays it cool by making his world a little colder, Hey Jude ( all the paranoid folks here, you HAVE to trust someone sometimes. The Avalon/Camelot forums were always going to attract the mentally ill,the frightened and those that simply have no lives. Those that come here just to play 'ain't it awefull'!
Here's a new game. It's called ain't life great! Be glad that there are two selfless people that go around at their own expense finding things out that we would never hear about otherwise that are prepared to keep us the people that want to know,informed of possible and probable, definate and maybe stuff. They present it as they get it and don't try to inflict their slant on things like so much of the mainstream news. these folks and their friends risk their lives every day to do what they sincerely believe in,which is the right for us all to have certain knowledge.
Ungrates really should just not log on and browse here, let alone make thoughtless posts questioning the sincerety of its founders! Unbelievable how igorant my fellow humans can be! They're so igorant in fact,they just don't know how igorant they are!:lmao::roll1::roftl::lol3:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Not always so. I thought they were trying to lead Miriam Delicado into saying she was supporting the "ground crew" that Bill and Kerry are so much trying to promote. That wasn't Miriam's message, and I think she was being careful when she realized they were trying to put some words into her mouth.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Although, a sceptic, I don`t doubt Bill and Kerry`s integrity. Some of the stuff that I read on here I find a little "kooky". But hey, that`s all part of the fun. Keep up the good work Bill and Kerry and, hopefully we`ll find the truth.
:original:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

This site is a true source of information. It has changed many lives.

However,

Although the intention of Bill and Kerry is a positive one, it seems they may have just handed us over to opposition. Although this does not matter if you understand that we are all here to do what we are supposed to.

Doesn't stop the fact that many people may suffer because of this site.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

erm....a life lived in fear is a half lived life....damn the consequences and tell the world how you feel

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Agreed. And I feel that this forum is giving the PTB a pretty good idea of where to start.

Fearful I am not my friend. Just aware.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

"Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?"

Let's see here: Bill and Kerry brought us Project Camelot with many people expressing their different opinions and viewpoints on what may or may not be happening on our planet, so that we the viewers could digest this information and make our own judgments. Then they bring us this forum to meet and discuss and hopefully broaden our horizons even more.....now we're going to sit here and cast aspersions and doubt on their integrity, for what purpose? to perhaps create warring factions and split up the group?

I must have missed the part where Bill & Kerry announced that they were our new gurus and messiahs, silly me, all this time I thought they were just being kind enough to share all this information with me without wanting or asking for anything in return :hammer:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I have thought of this myself.

Am I just giving my home address to those I would not wish to have it?

Does anyone know of anything we can do to prevent this, apart from the obvious like post only from web cafe's etc...

I mean, for my connection, I pay through the bank, the provider has my home address and mobile number....etc.....etc...its all there for THEM if they want it.

I feel like I've just kinda let THEM know who the enemy is and where I live ???????????

For those that will say "THEY wont be interested in you", im not so sure about that.

Merlin.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Surfing on the internet is monitor, the law applies to all communications network, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, Goggle, MSN, Yahoo,etc. They have to provided the info about websurfers entering into questionable groups. Now if you blame Bill and Kerry for getting on the goverments hot list no one force you to become a project avalon member. Just like all of us Bill and Kerry are searching for the truth outside of the main stream. I for one I'm glad they are brave enough to share it with us looney toons who love to question even the oxygen they breath. This my friend is the debate club, no pun intended. :tongue2:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

My gut-feeling about Bill and Kerry is that they are 100% genuine, but I also feel that they are just a tad naive, that does not have to be negative, naive can also be innocence and trying to see things without prejudice.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Yes, for sure, point taken.
I was not trying to blame Bill and Kerry, I've followed what they've done from the start. Just a general comment on the "hot list" as you call it. Can we do anything to avoid this? Can we block our IP? Im not to much of a tech head to know the answer to this.

Ta,
Merlin.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I find this post interesting, more for the reaction displayed to it by certain members than the subject matter itself.

Firstly, my heart tells me that Bill & Kerry are genuine, though I still use discernment and intuition when evaluating the information given.

I must admit that, when I first was recommnded to Project Camelot by a friend, I "googled" the name and found a project of the same name had been carried out by the American military in the 1960's:

From Wikipedia:

"Project Camelot was a social science research project of the United States Army in 1964.[1] The goal of the project was to assess the causes of violent social rebellion and to identify the actions a government could take to prevent it's own overthrow."

That freaked me out a little though I never bothered to research any further to see if the Wiki information was factually correct.

The reaction by certain members posting here is interesting. It seems to me that certain individuals feel threatened by having someone question Bill & Kerry, as if their world view is under threat.

As stated in a previous post, I feel that we should be open to questioning everything. If you think the question has no validity, ignore it. If you wish to add your answer to the question, go ahead.

But to castigate someone for asking a question, just because it conflicts with your view of world, is dangerous, in my very humble opinion.

Peace to you all.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

If I didn't think the intentions of the people who run projects camelot and avalon were sincere, I would have stopped reading long ago.

Instead, both sites have tapped into a curiosity of mine regarding the universe. This is why I keep coming back.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I gotta chime in here. This is entertaining. I love when Bill said, "I'm not afraid of the authorities." I love that. His job is to deliver the information, just like he did for me.

I needed him so I approached him when he was author of SERPO. Long time ago, but it is when I needed him as an outlet. I didn't know what he would do with the information, but I needed someone who would LISTEN. Us wb's need that, because most of the time, it would be on deaf ears. He and Kerry provide us a service, and you all a chance to learn something you wouldn't ordinarily know. I love being the provider of truth. That is the only reason I do this.

I AM GRATEFUL FOR THEM BOTH.

If I hadn't said to Bill and Kerry, "That's not how I know it happened....," (referring to Serpo) we might not have project Camelot today. (or it might not have been what it's become today.

I just have one closing remark. If they are insincere, they are wonderful actors, and my hat is off to a great performance! Of course I am kidding....

I love you both Bill and Kerry. Thanks for loving the human race!:wink2:

p.s. the edit: I had to add this: those who question them are just fine with me. I have done all the questioning I need to. Just to me, they are genuine.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

This is a very interesting question and should be asked. We do have to be sceptical of everyone, even each other. It shows we don't assume anything. I think the questioner is asking "Who are they working for?"

I have been following Bill's work on SERPO since day-1 and am genuinely satisfied that he is sincere and honest in everything he posts. Kerry has been bringing interesting work into the public arena on the Jerry Pippin site before focussing her skills and talents on the Camelot site with Bill.

This question has to be asked. We must NEVER believe anything at face value. Not even my response. However we can look at ALL information from as many different sources as possible and make up our own minds.

I'm sure that Bill and Kerry are only too aware that their work could be manipulated by 'the others' who thrive on dissinformation. They're not daft!
Together Bill and Kerry make a formidable team, both bringing their different talents and knowledge into the world's view. I for one am grateful to them both and long may they be able to continue their work.:original:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

:welcomeani:Hi trust NO ONE thats what they tell us in some of there interviews

I don't know Bill and Kerry from Adam, and PTB already know who you are, In England the government has spent £12mil on spying on our phones internet and mobi phones . As far as I'm concerned Bill and Kerry have given to me so far and I thank them for that, when that changes then we'll see :thumbdown:.

If they are agents what a good job they have done so far.

love you all light beeing:wub2:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

They know of how they are being monitored by government, yet create Avalon. If something goes down in a few years, there will very likely be agents within some of the more prominent and perhaps less prominent 'safehavens'. Setting this Avalon up is an easy way for these agents to have a databank of those which possibly pose a threat for spreading info.

The best way to cover a lie is to mix it in with truth. That way the observer can find one truth and assume the rest. The reason why most of us come here is to learn more and to get informed. Being open to new ideas enables us to see from a new perspective, being mature enough to recognize which ideas hold true enables us clear knowledge.

I'm fairly young, but I smell something horrid in the making of our governments. I see in our news articles another series of setups taking place in the future that will completely reconstitute life on Earth.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Hello. I have watched and listened to so many "truthtellers". Read books and discussed what or who is genuine or not. Who and what has any credibility ?
To be honest, I dont believe 50% from the get go. Then who is left ,I question to pieces. My conclusion is- probably 25% is the truth.
As far as Kerry and Bill, well, they are getting info out there so ,I cant knock them for that. Maybe they are being used by whoever. If so , they have fooled me. It can be frustrating .I do not like those who are cashing in though . xx:smoke:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Too me, unquestionably Bill and Kerry are the 'real deal'. That said I DO wonder about some of the 'whistleblowers testimony'. There have been several 'dire' warnings from numerous sources lately that have been totally 'all wet'. It would not surprise me at all, if Bill and Kerry were viewed as 'useful idiots' by certain factions of the prevailing Overlords. They may be using this open forum to float various test scenarios, to see were they are in their progress in 'running things' or to see how well they are doing. It seems many recent 'warnings' have been just so much ca ca. Some of these folks may themselves actually believe what they have have heard whether from from an inside source or an external leak type source. This 'ENTIRE' Ground Crew, Radiant Zone etc End of the World feeling that most if not all on this forum have subscribed to may be just so much disinformation to simply 'out' the opposing party as a bunch of loonies, and sheeple. Now I don't think most of what we have heard from most of these 'whistle blowers' is credible at all. Especially from some of the more well known ones making a **** load of 'cash' from all this, living in Castles.. sheeesh. This end of times **** has been going around since Moses and guess what? Here we are! Now I'm going to move out if this country as I'm rather mad at the failure of our leaders and am embarrassed at the level of awareness on Planet Earth, not just the US but everywhere. I find the costs of living financially and morally,here getting more ridiculous every day, and seek a more comfortable and less complicated/corrupt life elsewhere closer to nature as Creation I believe intended.

Not that Other Countries are not corrupt, Far from it, they are just not big enough to enforce suffering on large swaths of the people of the planet, as this Empire does. All I might add in the name of Money, Power, and simple Greed. Also I know I'm not going anywhere, unless Creation wants me elsewhere, and allows my home to sell, in order for us to move. Wherever we are supposed to be we will be. If we need to rebuild our world from any 'upheaval' here then rebuild we will.

I would not put it past some bad things occurring. Actually I welcome the 'harvest' as I see it the only viable course of action for such a Broken paradigm as the collective's course has been for the last period of years.

I applaud Bill and Kerry for being the brave souls they surely are. I wish however, that they did not buy into the negative, fear inducing, gut wrenching, scenarios that they have been subjected to. I find it very, hard to take, that our Government is thinking any of what these supposed 'whistle Blowers' have been saying is coming 'any day now'. I have watched most of the interviews and read most of the transcripts. It's allot to take in and in the beginning I was pretty floored buy it all. But after a certain point, It started feeling pretty strained and bizarre. I feel some of their most famous 'insiders' have been led or furnished these various 'end times' timelines to facilitate a breakdown of the status quo. In order that 'they will have easier time seizing control on more obvious basis. They are tired of pulling the strings from behind the curtain. They feel they would like to see the light of day, and have 'respectability to boot. They are tired of being invisible.

That said this whole thing is reminding me of the last 'end of times' scenario, when the computers all would crash and we would be sent back the stone age. Yeah Right.

We need a do over in the worst of ways and I for one can hardly wait for some light to appear at the end of this rather 'dark Stinking Tunnel' We Have created or have allowed the 'dark ones' to create for us! It's time for a New Age folks. I think we all hope the next will be better than the last, but thats up to us as a collective. It won't be provided by great benevolent leaders. It has to come from US. I believe we will be up to the job. We will have to be, or we deserve what we end up with.

We need to realize our own power, and see the coming shift (if indeed its really coming) as a blessing and see the best coming, to mitigate the worst possible outcomes, or lesson them considerably. As David Wilcock among others have offered, It's up to us and most of us do not realize 'the power our thoughts have'. So we need to Stop being afraid and Stop seeing Death coming and all dying all over. We need to see a Beautiful World Waiting for us and needed transformation be as painless as possible. Don't give in to fear. We Are Safe. Even if we are asked to make the ultimate sacrifice, We are eternal. You Are Safe and forever in existence till you decide you know what you were created to find out, and desire to to be Creating with the Creation once again. We have nothing to Fear...

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I did have a question: Do the people they interview pay them for the interview?

Also, I believe that Bill is or was a Freezoner Scientologist and I was wondering if his aim is to do what they call "audit negative charge out of the 3rd and 4th dynamic", 3rd dynamic being groups one affiliates with and 4th dynamic being societies one is born into.

If that were the case then I should see them striving to bring us as a group up the emotional tone scale from fear or wherever we are at now up to something like strong interest or higher. I'm just not that familiar with that type of group processing, although I do believe in it.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Trust no one but observe you must.

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Congratulations on a well thought out post. I agree with you 100%, sir!

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I'm not sure there's a better Forum around. B&K are responsible for bringing a whole bunch of truth through their work and interviews they conducted, opened a Forum to keep the public aware of things we may not have known or considered. Personally, I'm absolutely absorbed w/Project Camelot. Really great work Guys and Gals !!

Tip of the Hat to You.
RSF

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups !

Since we are all here Now - It is quite amazing how many experts there are posting opinions. Before Bill and Kerry came on the scene most of us were living the BIG LIE, like most of the planet.(still is! - no need for details here, I presume?)

Now all of a sudden WE ALL seem to have all the answers, don't we !

We are now being presented with so much genuine information, that does require careful consideration, which so many of us took for granted or never ever even considered before. As far as most of us were concerened life was as it was. Now it is apparently NOT SO ?

Whatever is throw our way from the spinning blades of the BIG FAN - we will deal with it, one way or the other ! !

The most important thing that seems to come to mind is -

Look Inwards (Inside Yourself) For ALL the Answers -:thumb_yello:

We have tried the other way and look at the mess we find ourselves in !:mfr_omg:

Paul R

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I know Bill, he is genuine, believe me.

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I don't see where the genuine part comes into it. They interview people, let them talk and everyone can judge for themselves.

They have then provided this easy to use forum which has a million opinions and viewpoints. In fact some of the posters seem far more inclined to move opinions in a general direction. And are free to do so.

With each passing day this forum more and more resembles the world at large. As the population increases so the number of moderators increased until now they have a hierarchy. In the general population are people of all ages and beliefs getting along or not getting along, some trying to dominate proceedings, some trying to make a buck.

And the creators? Now some label them false gods and perhaps due to this or other considerations they will fade into the ether and legends will spring up that one day they might return....

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

Yes, I am concerned afterall the cost of a website like this does not cost peanuts. The names Camelot and Avalon are much entrenched in the Europian and UK Illuminati. The Windors' are priming Prince William to be another King Arthur. I feel we must be cautious when giving information about ourselves and where we live. Ive already been hacked since joining this forum. I have watched the various interviews by Bill and Kerry, and I ask myself 'who is paying them and how are they earning a living ' in order to travel the globe.? Just a thought!

firefly

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

I do like the honesty of this forum, I'm glad I joined. :original:

Regarding the point in hand:


To say that Project Camelot (B&K) is not genuine would surely mean a loss of interest in it, right?

Proof, evidence or convincing argument aside, I am happy to announce myself firmly on Bill & Kerrie's pro integrity campaign. :nono:


Almost any one of the WB's testimonies would be enough to keep my attention, so if only one of them is true, it is worth watching for the next truth to be revealed.

Ask yourself this, if you were film/interviewing a whistleblower and wanted to extract the most pertinent information, would you ask questions that Bill or Kerry do not?


This thread I believe, has shown that we can continue to have confidence in project camelot's "dynamic duo" because (if nothing else) of the very lack of evidence that they are anything but genuine.

Their interviewing & film making skills (which I believe is more to do with the cause of this thread) will I'm sure improve the more they get to do them.

However when reporting on this sort of material the content is always going to outdo the quality.


Namaste.:thumb_yello:

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 

i would hope you wouldn't want anyone to believe you just because you say so. quite the contrary, i tell people 'don't take my word for it. find out for yourself.'