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hollylindin 03-03-2010 09:41 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 247987)
I believe this is a classical operation to divide two people that have public authority and have some important work against The System.
(I have experienced something similar, and I know how it goes).
Thay have been targeted since the beginning of their common work.
TPTB have their psychological profiles..and their agents were working long time to split B&K. Usually they are using techniques to rise up their egos...It`s been done to them through many people, some "friends" step by step, day by day, carefully planned what to say to the one, what to the other.
When I said "psychological profiles" it means - science, that gives to the attacker precise possible reactions of the victims, after being influenced with something (info, acts, events...)

I appeal to both of them, very intelligent and educated persons, to make a pause for few days, maybe weeks. Than to try to make a meeting, with open conversation...no emotions, honestly and sincere. The names of the provocateurs will appear.

Be careful, dear Bill and Kerry, your work is extremely important. Be on the level of your ideals.


Love and Respect to both.

This is absolutely beautiful. Thank you, Oliver, for such an inspiring comment. <3

Aztar 03-03-2010 09:42 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
.. Dr Steven Greer...the being operating his body is not the same as the one in 2001.


Whole quote for clarity;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 247623)

-- Our public disagreement with the views of Dr Steven Greer, and my remarking privately to some people that Kerry and I were both certain that the being operating his body is not the same as the one in 2001. (Yes, I am sure of this.)

Note: Kerry and I were both certain

Carol 03-03-2010 09:51 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Thank you Aztar for the entire quote. Just because they both share the same belief doesn't make it true. Given what we are seeing with their behavior these days their own credibility isn't the best. Why would I think their assessment of Dr. Greer is accurate? I just don't buy it and I have close friends, whom I do know and trust, of Dr. Greer who don't buy it either.

MargueriteBee 03-03-2010 09:55 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy (Post 247877)
I don't know who you are but you are clearly a paid operative of an agency... You are posting outright lies. Unfortunately, Bill has not the intelligence or the honor to recognize this.

Kerry

Now I feel that Camelot is over when Kerry will insult Bill like this.:thumbdown: Especially in public.

Are the dark forces winning on Project Camelot???

tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:00 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy (Post 247877)
I don't know who you are but you are clearly a paid operative of an agency... You are posting outright lies. Unfortunately, Bill has not the intelligence or the honor to recognize this.

Kerry


Good One, LOL.

If you had been paying any attention to this forum you would know who I am.

UncleJohn 03-03-2010 10:00 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
This is an interesting exchange so let me respond:

We are not a single entity existing inside a single body. I mean we as each of us.

We are composite beings.

With this in mind, how can you argue that this is not the same being as years ago?

There is a spark of every sentient being inside all of us.

Uncle John

senate014 03-03-2010 10:01 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
I agree! It almost feels like a girlfriend / boyfriend relationship breaking up. Once you've made your decision you can't turn back!?

What do you think people?

Love & Peace

Andy

Church 03-03-2010 10:05 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 248040)
Good One, LOL.

If you had been paying any attention to this forum you would know who I am.

LMAO, that was the first thing I thought about too when I read that! Um, Kerry, you never paid any freaking attention to this place so how would you know who anyone is here?

lol

tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:07 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtailhawk (Post 248006)
If this is the case, how the heck did "Jake Simpson" get outed in connection with your show? T3J's post seems to imply that you mentioned this on air? Unless, you know T3J personally and said it to him directly?


No, not on air. In the manticore forum.

Edit: I take it back, Mel did not say that Kerry told him that directly.

Edit #2: He did post it and followed it with "don't quote me"

tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:08 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
You are right Kerry, I am paid by the government. $275.00 / week unemployment compensation.

redtailhawk 03-03-2010 10:10 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 248058)
No, not on air. In the manticore forum.

Thanks for clarifying. Yet, why would Manitcore be outing "Jake Simpson" in the forum, especially when he claims he could not even remember the man's name? And, since Kerry says she would NEVER call John, Jake Simpson.

SteveX 03-03-2010 10:11 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
`ere....you lot! Lurking at the bottom of this thread. Go check out the Dr Reed links on the right of the fake vid. There are loads of em. I'm sure there be me gossip when you get back. lol :tongue2:

bashi 03-03-2010 10:11 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Regarding Greer:

Just look at the vid between 0:42:45 - 0:42:47 .
It gave me the creeps when i saw that bite ...

vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqDVOjtNhg


.

Carol 03-03-2010 10:13 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
BF/GF breaking up? This type of interaction has been going on for almost as long as I've known them here at the forum.

bashi, meaning no disrespect ~ when someone is watching a video to the point that they have taken the time to mark out sections that gives them the creeps, the thought I have is that person has too much time on their hands. That is just your impression as an individual. There are others with different impression. Perhaps you choose to believe Bill and Kerry's impressions as well. That is your choice. However, given my own personal experience and professional background of over 30 years, my impressions are different.

How about something like this instead.

http://www.quotesarcade.com/graphics...raphics_01.gif

Church 03-03-2010 10:14 PM

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LOL, Bashi, are you suggesting he tried to chomp down on her? That would have redeemed that video, actually.

hollylindin 03-03-2010 10:18 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi (Post 248067)
Regarding Greer:

Just look at the vid between 0:42:45 - 0:42:47 .
It gave me the creeps when i saw that bite ...

vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqDVOjtNhg


.

Probably 'cause Steven has a bit of a T-rex/reptile look to him already, so making a biting motion is a little bit of a freak-out! :naughty:

<3

redtailhawk 03-03-2010 10:21 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 248058)
No, not on air. In the manticore forum.

Edit: I take it back, Mel did not say that Kerry told him that directly.

Thanks. What I am trying to get to the bottom of is how was Jake Simpson/John Burns names connected? Specifically, how did you learn this?

tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:21 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Someone quick! Change the passwords so that Kerry can't post anymore.

(Rolls Eyes)

K626 03-03-2010 10:22 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi (Post 248067)
Regarding Greer:

Just look at the vid between 0:42:45 - 0:42:47 .
It gave me the creeps when i saw that bite ...

vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqDVOjtNhg


.

Greer is gone. Get over it.

Bill needs to get to Icke again before he goes.

Time is speeding up.

Steve_A 03-03-2010 10:24 PM

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Hi Bill & Everybody,

I hear you Bill and I totally agree with everything you have said in this thread.

Never have I seen such an appalling act on TV than this Dr. Jonathon Reed chap. He reminds me of a mixture between "The Amazing Kreskin" and Uri Geller, only they were far more convincing.

There are many con men out there and I have been in the past told to "tone it down" about some of them I mentioned on this forum site, so I tended to leave go a little, concentrating on what I thought was important.

It seems that now you (Bill) are starting to take more of a stand, as I could be mistaken in thinking that the problem about Camelot began with Arthur Newman, Pete Peterson and the like. The thing is, if one idiot gets 'published', others will be lining up to do the same. If and as they get 'published' the more serious whistleblower buff gets more dissappointed and starts to make noises... as some have.

I think you (Bill) could be very successful in letting the world know the truth. With your ample experience, who do you think is full of dung? You have a lot more clout than I or any member of this forum does, although I have loads of proof about certain 'secret underground base' workers.

But as I'm asked to stand down, I do.

Best regards,

Steve



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 247524)
[SIZE="4"]Hi, All:

You all know by now that I have zero tolerance for hoaxers, imposters, and infiltrators.

Click here:

http://youtube.com/user/ProjectCameIot

To see an imposter channel set up to promote the Jonathan Reed hoax.


tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:25 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtailhawk (Post 248073)
Thanks. What I am trying to get to the bottom of is how was Jake Simpson/John Burns names connected? Specifically, how did you learn this?


Go to the manticore forum following this link, then read down to the 4th post that was made by Mel.

http://www.manticore.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1810

I feel bad now because I had not remembered that Mel had specifically posted "don't quote me" after he typed and posted that he was introduced as Jake Simpson. I had read it the day before and only the facts of what I had read still lingered. I hope Mel is not mad. He is my favorite host.

bashi 03-03-2010 10:29 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Church (Post 248070)
LOL, Bashi, are you suggesting he tried to chomp down on her? That would have redeemed that video, actually.

Thinks are sometimes only visible if you already know what to look for...

K626 03-03-2010 10:30 PM

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The tribe must hold.


Peace and Love.

K.

bashi 03-03-2010 10:46 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol (Post 248068)

bashi, meaning no disrespect ~ when someone is watching a video to the point that they have taken the time to mark out sections that gives them the creeps, the thought I have is that person has too much time on their hands.

Well, i saw the vid 2-3 times when it was released, and immediately noted down the time. Just a matter of looking back into my notes. If you look at my posts regarding Greer, my opinion about him is not new in his case.

gita 03-03-2010 10:50 PM

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It seems to me that no one has considered the human relationship factor in all this. We must remember that Bill and Kerry have a long history filled with different levels of love – not to mention that they are both pioneers of such a wonderful projects that has helped so many. I’m not sticking up for Bill or Kerry but at the same time facts are facts. Please try to imagine how Kerry must feel when her ‘children’ are slating her and siding with ‘dad’. Kerry put her heart and soul in Project Camelot not to mention her well being in order to bring out the truth to people like us. She must feel completely betrayed, angry, upset and darn right heart broken when the same people she gave her time and effort to have not just turned against her but also trying to rip her apart.

I understand that a lot of Avolonians are leaning towards Bill and in a way that is understandable as Kerry has not as yet been able to explain herself in an objective way as Bill has. Sure, at the moment she has taken the subjective route but any ‘mum’ would feel that angry when the same people that she has ‘nurtured’ are attacking her. She must be heartbroken and this is why she’s lashing out. I don’t believe Bill would want us to carry on attacking Kerry the way some have on this thread as I’m sure he still must have loving feelings (not necessarily romantic) towards her – after all they’ve shared a unique journey together that none of us could possibly comprehend.

It really is time for the rest of us to butt out of their business and give them both time to deal with such a break up cos we’re just as guilty as the both of them for adding fuel to the fire. I also understand why some of us have done this as at some level we can see the end of something wonderful that brought us some sanity and may be fighting the change and the new era of Project Camelot/Avelon – we just have to adjust our energies to deal with this change. We are all grown ups and it’s not a matter of whether we’ll be staying at ‘mum’s or dad’s’ this weekend.

Granted, we all would love to know what the truth is but lets just stick to facts without attacking the founders – I for one am still grateful to both Kerry and Bill for all they’ve done and we’ve come so far because of BOTH of them. If Kerry has decided to take a different path now, we should wish her all the best instead of ‘hating’ her for wanting to live her own life. I do not for one moment agree with what Kerry said about Tone3 – that was out of order but if you’ve noticed, Tone3 did not retaliate negatively where others have – because he’s forgiving like that and used humour instead. I for one am a fan of Tone3 and he has helped me out behind the scenes and am sure he’s helped many others but he’s not the kind of soul to broadcast it.

I dread to think what new comers have made of all this. They probably came to this site filled with hope that they can find a place to feel at home and be able to exhale at last amongst like minded people – instead they find this charade – great example we turned out to be. Well, I tell you tptb must be loving this and probably had a hand in facilitating all this nonsense.

I also agree with burgundia and Carol about the dark energies being in place and I also can’t help but wonder that all the recent earthquakes and the continuous after shocks are also playing factors as the energy must be hitting everyone across the globe in wave forms and it seems to have gathered momentum – so are we just reacting instead of creating? Most of us here thought we were becoming evolved but when it came down to it, I feel we failed miserably – but I remain hopeful that we can turn this around and bring peace and forgiveness back in to our hearts.

It truly makes me wonder that if we can behave like this with a ‘break up’ then we really have a long way to go before we can be the healers and light shiners when shyte hits the fan. Let’s hope we’ve learnt our lesson from this and behave as souls that we know ourselves to be.

It may be an idea (just an idea) for this thread to be closed down for a little while to give us all a chance to calm down and gather our thoughts. Please if you can, go to the ‘make me laugh’ thread and leave something to make each other laugh so that we can bring some balance back to our safe haven.

Much love to all your hearts. xx

3optic 03-03-2010 10:50 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi (Post 248090)


Well, i saw the vid 2-3 times when it was released, and immediately noted down the time. Just a matter of looking back into my notes. If you look at my posts regarding Greer, my opinion about him is not new in his case.

People make weird faces all the time. Hardly worth noting. He appeared to me to be about to interject something before aborting. This is proof of what exactly?

bashi 03-03-2010 10:54 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Maybe a proof of my own paranoia ... :wink2:

mntruthseeker 03-03-2010 10:57 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
yes people do that when they start to say something and catch themself

They seem to butt heads and Kerry talked over him a few times, but to me its just two people that have their own opinion and refused to budge on it

Church 03-03-2010 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Maybe a proof of my own paranoia ...
All it was proof of is that Kerry wouldn't let Greer speak. He opened his mouth several times to do so, but she opened hers faster, louder, and for longer intervals.

tone3jaguar 03-03-2010 10:58 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spregovori (Post 247872)
Tone3 does this mean that someone experiencing astral travel...be it around the house...or be it to other dimensions, planets...etc Can as well be just astral illusion?

Everything in the Astral Realm is a direct manifestation intention of those there in it, higher self, spirit and etc. The difference with the tech is that they create the thought form reality using technology. It is basically like a star trek holideck tech only out of body so that they can use the easy to manipulate environment of the astral world as their canvas.

For those that have not been out of body in an astral projection, that reality is just a real, tangible, and convincing as this one. You could totally trick someone into believing that the had not left normal waking reality over there.

bashi 03-03-2010 11:09 PM

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Question to Bill:
How long, workwise, would it have taken to cut the disputed music out of the Saxon-vid?

Reunite 03-03-2010 11:11 PM

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Hey Bill if you're dropping names why don't you talk about the Australian Ark?

lightblue 03-03-2010 11:22 PM

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people are cracking up, not nice...these things happen, so why make it a drama..
lythe
:sweatdrop:


p. s. my personal feeling is that kerry's mind is under some sort of attack..why, oh why would she remove bill's video twice without warning if she was genuinely concerned about a copy rignt violation issue? that excuse goverment agencies use....hard to believe she'd be as reckless... unless she is not being herself...





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SteveX 03-03-2010 11:35 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi (Post 248115)
Question to Bill:
How long, workwise, would it have taken to cut the disputed music out of the Saxon-vid?

Or put the Camalot opening vid on the front. No one seems to remember Bill didn't do that.

bashi 03-03-2010 11:36 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
I am still mad about the vid issue. And time is running....:

Israels Deputy Prime Minister in China and then this:

Quote: "The Iranian president said he expects war to break out somewhere between spring and summer of this year. Meanwhile, the Hizbollah chief vowed to strike the Israeli capital, its airports and power stations if Israel dared to attack Beirut’s critical infrastructure."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100225/..._israel_iran_1

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702289930/1006

Please Bill, get the vid out again as soon as possible.



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Carol 03-03-2010 11:37 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
With respect to thread closing, I'm against it. There were times as a moderator I did close threads but that was where tempers were out of control and people were busy insulting each other. Members also need a place to process their feelings about the various changes that PA/PC is undergoing because they are now a very active part of what makes PA/PC forums what they are. I respect the members here and have observed how posts have evolved over these many months. I also think they have a right to post their feelings/observations and work through the issues being presented to us by the forum founders.

Again, I do not think anyone should take sides. I do think this is an opportunity for us to remain open-minded and allow this process to unfold of its own accord. My respect continues to unfold for various members as they offer their input and it makes my heart glad to be associated with such a fine group of human beings.:wub2:

quetzalcoatl11 03-03-2010 11:37 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
Bill and Kerry,

These are the times when those who have been counted upon will be asked to carry more, and the both of you have been such a tremendous force and light within the lives of countless millions of people around the world, but your work is not done yet and you cannot give into the negativity.

There is that famous quote by Einstein which always comes to mind:"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it,"

Certainly you know that there are avid attempts to set the both of you at odds and against one another, it's a testament to the tremendous fortitude and resolve you both have had in getting the people to wake up and realize there is a greater story and transcendent aspect to not only humanity, but life itself. You will both have dark moments, as all of us do, and in those darker moments people will attempt to take snapshots and define you through these brief glimpses as though you both were statues rather than rivers, ever-changing and ever flowing. Don't give up on yourselves, despite what darkness you encounter, within the both of you is a strength and light greater than all the darkness in the world. There are people on these boards that truly understand the odds you confront, not only 'out there' but most importantly, within yourselves, in the confines of your hearts. You are both magnificent and unbelievably loving souls, you have accepted a very difficult challenge and have succeeded overwhelmingly so, don't lose heart now- you are in the final mile.

lightblue 03-03-2010 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Please Bill, get the vid out again as soon as possible.

i must agree! :shocked:

also, bill - you mentioned in your yesterday's post something about a limited nuclear attack taking place behind closed doors..what did you mean? thanks.

bw l.







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Church 03-03-2010 11:55 PM

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^ I think post #38 of this thread is a clue.

Steven 03-03-2010 11:57 PM

Re: The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube
 
It's rather interesting how this thread has swing into all sort of topics...

You can count on me Bill about the hoaxer. I have made a complain on youtube and a comment that will probably not appear on the hoaxer page, it was still pending for approval.

No matter what happen, I will always support your work and Kerry's work as well. I don't beleive you are manipulated, but rather protected. All my blessings to you both. May Creation keeps you under her wing to let you do what you came to do.

If people are looking for the page on youtube to make a complain, here : http://www.youtube.com/t/contact_us?hl=en_US

Namaste, Steven


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