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The moderators are not ogre royal rulers of of the Kingdom of Censorship. 99.9999% of the time the list members are mature enough and capable enough of moderating themselves in this social situation so that others are not feeling too terribly abused. The moderators are not all sitting here picking over each forum post with a fine tooth comb. Really - these days how often must we take on the difficult task of intervention? It is usually when a member has called for our assistance. It's not WHAT you say but HOW you say it.

The other thread went south with the 2nd post, which was done quite innocently and without malice and what I saw after that was an explosion between two vastly different points of view - and the problem was the highly-charged hostility being hurled at non-experiencers who innocently stepped into a hornets nest - and some of the most hostile posts have been removed.

This is a highly charged topic, and I believe the experiencers can make their points better if they can take a few deep breaths and do so with less emotional charge. Reactions tend to be equal and opposite. The more forcefully you try to make your point the greater the other point of view is repelled away from you. The meeting ground of working out issues like this depends on keeping the emotional charges minimized.

As far as the comments about rule #3 and labeling light-hearted responders as trolls - well, to me that sounds a little too much like extreme censorship. Are we having censorship on this forum or not? You want the right to speak your mind. Everyone wants the right to speak their mind. It can be done without personal attacks, name-calling, etc.

What killed the other thread and stopped disclosure? I think it was over-reaction on the part of the experiencers. I think this topic could be back on track. Be the change you want to see.

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Thanks Noela for the new working link. Off to check it out.

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Mudra,

I have to disagree with a point. I think the trick to being self-responsible and self-realized is not in erasing memories, rather, in being fully conscious of all of your memories and the negativity that the world has as well as the beauty it has to offer and to make the realized choice and responsible choice while still holding on to your independence and sovereignty. To act on a foundation of nothingness is to deny the existence of everything; and that is in my opinion lacking in responsibility.

To be aware of all that is, to be conscious of everyone and everything and every ebb and flow is to be in the NOW. To be present in the moment includes past and future. The only illusion is time. ALL is existing NOW. To deny and erase may feel good and give you a way to slip out of your responsibility to the world, but it is a deceptive path which only includes you and allows you to walk past the man that is ailing without compassion.

I am not saying that you are discompassionate, I know first hand that you are flowing with compassion. I merely warn that it is a slippery slope between being and nothingness. I ask the question, "Is it truly service to others to forget?"

The Rep question is a mixed bag of answers, both positive and negative. I have had both experiences. Through these experiences I have still chosen the path of non violence and disclosure. I will continue to talk about my experiences, negative or positive in an honest fashion. I think this is a service, as others want to know.

Peace of mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

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Wormhole- with clearing process's- it's not about forgetting/erasing but actually clearing the incidents out of your consciousness so one is free to move on in fully conscious mode.
It can be really painful to clear because you are brining it to full consciousness.

I've been under hypnosis many times for abduction regression and we used EFT to clear the trauma I was experiencing but I have to say I like auditing and
Lester's release technique over EFT for me.

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Thank you for sharing your views wormhole,

I do appreciate you way of looking at it.
By erasing memories I mean to bring them into the light of pure consciousness so you can fully integrate them and be fully responsible for them. They are then part of your experience but you don't need to hold onto them anymore. This allows you to constantly be in the Now. For me it's not so much that all is existing NOW it's rather that Existing NOW is all . But as you experience life and livingness your existing Now grows in understanding . So Now is not existing in nothingness . Your existing in the NOW has a quality enriched by the integration of your experiences and this in itself can be measured by the Love and compassion you adress things with.

Love Always
mudra

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Mudra,

"By erasing memories I mean to bring them into the light of pure consciousness so you can fully integrate them and be fully responsible for them."

I fail to see how erasing the existence of a thing brings it into the light of pure consciousness.

"Your existing in the NOW has a quality enriched by the integration of your experiences and this in itself can be measured by the Love and compassion you adress things with."

When you exist in the NOW, you become Love and Compassion. Love and Compassion are not an address or a tool to measure things by. But these things are oranges to eve's apples. Thank you for clearly stating your feelings and for putting them into print with such clear intention. Our thoughts are very close together, our differences clearly seen upon the canvas.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

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[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]Mudra,


I fail to see how erasing the existence of a thing brings it into the light of pure consciousness.[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]

Probably the use of the term erasing is misleading I agree. What I want to convey is that when you bring memories in the light of consciousness you bring them to your heart, you understand them as being part of your creation and integrate them. And one could say that you have then erased the energy that was making you hold onto them.


[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]When you exist in the NOW, you become Love and Compassion. Love and Compassion are not an address or a tool to measure things by. But these things are oranges to eve's apples. Thank you for clearly stating your feelings and for putting them into print with such clear intention. Our thoughts are very close together, our differences clearly seen upon the canvas.[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]

I think Love is who we are Wormhole when not clouded by the hold we keep on wounds of the past. We are Love and compassion . This is not something we can become. It is our essence.
When you meet someone who has Love and compassion it's something you can feel .
It gives you space.

Love Always
mudra

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Some info for those interested on releasing:

http://www.releasetechnique.com/what-is-releasing

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There is one powerful form of release or 'conscious clearing' that hasn't been mentioned here I believe.
Forgiveness.
Forgiveness cancels karma.
Forgiveness clears ones heart, ones total being of anger and fear, and all sorts of other negative thoughts and emotions.
I know that it can seem like it is one of the hardest things to do at times...
To use forgiveness at its full potential, one has to believe in providence or karma without question...
As an example, I tell people I know that if I am marched away to some prison camp or other horrible end, I will forgive everyone that plays a roll in my current situation, knowing full well that it is my providence/karma that is the cause of my being there in the first place.
On the surface it might seem like this is a green flag for people to commit atrocities, but it really isn't as they too will meet providence unless they forgive.
Forgiving others is forgiving yourself.
Forgiveness from the heart cancels karma. :lightsabre:

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I agree with you Phtha...all along.
I enjoyed the loving energy of your light hearted and kind post .

Love Always
mudra

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Mudra,

Thank you again for your enlightening post. However, I again disagree on a point. Wounds and memories do not cloud us from being Love and Compassion: choices do. Wounds and memories simply are, it is what we chose to do with them that counts :wink2:.

When I meet someone who is Love and Compassion, I can also feel it. When I meet someone who uses love and compassion as a tool, I question it. It is important to stay awake and see the difference, don't you think?

Thank you for your clarification on "erasing". That was important to me.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

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Taking back my power and authority against those who tried to steal it. Powerful visual in this picture.

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Unified Serenity,

Such a bold and beautiful piece of art Unified, thank you. Did you know that "Virgin" means unowned woman?

I remember my first experience with a Rep. Mentally it said that I was his, that he "owned" me. He was there to "Check out the goods". I felt my soul was in danger. I knew that I had been promised to him. A great strength welled up inside of me, "NO ONE OWNS ME!!!" I was pretty fierce.

We need to be warriors and hold our own power when faced with negative experiences. We can then turn around the experience, and face our future empowered and with our eyes wide open!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Ps, Who was the artist on that picture?

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I couldnt post either yesterday, DNS errors kept me from getting to the site.

Today I can.

I am moving house at the moment so I dont have much time :)

A..

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Think rain drop rejoining the Ocean.

A..

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Thanks Mr. Anchor.
Good luck on your move.
Lionhawk puts another log on the fire.
That's all folks.

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Wormhole in your own words you are expressing what I myself feel deeply .
We are on the same page .

Love Always
mudra

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Well said Phtha, you have explained the law of all forgiveness, thank you for bringing that to the fore.

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Carol & Lionhawk, for what its worth I would like to apologise for my unconscious remarks on page 1 of this thread. Please continue.

:doh:

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No apology necessary. It is noted however.

Notice despite all the remarks, I have not hit the report button once. That's across the board.

As far as continuing, it is being continued, but behind the scenes. There, behind the scenes, is no interference from those who don't want you to know. Just because I am quiet doesn't mean that I gave up working on resolving and the overcoming of the fear of those issues. It was never about spreading fear. It was about facing it!

Thanks Carol for trying. It is what it is. :(

Lionhawk puts another log on the fire.................

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I’ve kept quiet on both these threads up until now as I was interested in what people thought and wanted to read everyone’s take..
I have an on going experience with a none 3d reptilian female… she is a wonderful, wise and evolved being with the evolution of our universe and reconnection to Prime Source, through love, knowledge, creativity and experience… as her main agenda.

But first Noela and Elini… I’m glad you brought George Kavassilas, in to this as I adore his videos… But as well as describing reptilians as deceptive and master manipulators he also states that there are some incredibly enlightened reptilians, who are “Christed” beings. Our great Ra, from the ancient Egypt and the Ra materials, he describes as an ex interplanetary warrior cast, reptilian army commander, subservient to the three Orion Queens, who after a long career conquering planets for the ancient Orion Empire, landed on one of the Sirius planets and was taught the power of cooperation, democracy and freedom by the wise old Sirian's beings on that planet. Ra began a spiritual path and became a being of great wisdom and love… and finally the highly evolved, light being I am Ra.

If the universe is populated by billions and trillions of galaxies, and God knows how many planets and solar systems? Then there’s the other dimensions? And there are humanoid beings of every level of development and description as well as Reptiod, and Dynoid, grey’s, lion faced, it goes on and on, then surely the reptilians will be just as politically, spiritually, emotionally and intelligently, divers as the humanoids?? And if as George Kavassilas says the reptilians were here first, then the Carians (Bird-like) then the humans, then would the reptilians not have had longer to be so diverse??

On this little planet, in relatively recent history, (Thousands of years, not millions), there seems to be a pretty malevolent renegade gang of reptilians who have tried to controle things by seeding their so called “Chosen People”, with DNA, that was easier to manipulate, i.e. from their own, close to their own and that these not so friendly reptilians seem to be working with a renegade gang of not so friendly tall blonds… together they made up the Annunaki? There are also interdimentional reptilian looking demon creatures, who work with negativity, but they are programmed to do so and they seem to be of the same substance as what we call angels. Only programmed to the negative. But in one sense they are all ET’s it’s just a question of which dimension and density the energy or being is working with in… yet ALL of God’s creation is divine and loved by God, so all consciousness and all entities, what ever they may be, are to be respected.
And as the late Bill Hicks said, “it’s only a ride!”… It’s all an experience of the prime source or God, experiencing its own self and its own consciousness…in the end.
We need to chill out and look with in… Reptilians are searching for their own truths and trying to fulfil their own agenda’s in the same way humans are… there’s not much difference at the end of the day.
Remember, even Dulce, was a reptilian/human co-operation nightmare…just not the sort of Reptilian or Human I want to hang out with…

To lump all reptilians in to the Negative, Annunaki, Dulce category is like saying that all Americans back the war in Iraq, just because their army is over there, killing innocent Iraqi’s and that all Americans are murderers and personally want to murder and torture Iraqis. Or for that mater that all American troops are sole bent on going in to Iraq for the purpose of manipulation of oil prices, and stargate controle?

I was very weary of the relationship that I developed with this reptilian, that I now trust with my life and my on going spiritual education, that for a long time I was convinced that she was a Black ops physic plant or a bad guy lizard lady trying to manipulate me as I have that bloodline DNA, but time has told a very lovely tale and she is of the light and the wisdom… but it’s a long story which I wont go in to here….
I just want to say, we need to take responsibility for our own actions, for inviting the negative ones in on a sub conscious level, to work out apathy, insecurity and manipulation dramas, and know that we no longer need this so we no longer can support the deception and we really can controle the outcome… through our own visualisation.
We can wish upon a star…. And turn that wish in to a non wavering reality, and become that star, literally… but it’s a long process of learning and experience, and we’ve already come a long way on that path…

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Hi Antonia

Can I ask you a question please.

You say"I have an on going experience with a none 3d reptilian female…"

How is this experience happening? Is she a physical being, is it done by telepathy??

Ammit

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Lionhawk, I'm not sure what you're waiting for. Sometimes, it is what you make it. Why aren't you recounting your experiences on this forum?

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Antonia-
My 5 year old had ongoing contact with reptilians he calls his *friends*.
He told me last night they would never hurt or kill him. He also described them- some are black- some greenish, some yellow/orange. He says they mostly don't wear clothing because it takes away powers (his words)- also they have taken him around the solar system and beyond. They have taught him numerous things about the sun , solar system etc; (quite detailed to hear your 5 year old describe a CME because he *saw it* with his eyes)- he also told me that he has contact with *bug like beings* (again his words).

I think many reptoids have got a bad rap and not all of them are evil or deceptive just like all people are not evil and
deceptive.

"I just want to say, we need to take responsibility for our own actions, for inviting the negative ones in on a sub conscious level, to work out apathy, insecurity and manipulation dramas, and know that we no longer need this so we no longer can support the deception and we really can controle the outcome… through our own visualisation."

Yes, so true- again for me it comes down to magnetics- we are going to attract what we need to work through and we can create a beautiful reality for ourselves.

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I have a 5 year old.....I trust very few folks around her and even less those I don't..

Don't you think that you should be sitting guard over or against experiences like this because the little ones are targets according to many folks?

Whatever is happening...it's without your consent

And if it is...Are you willing to gamble with your child?? or your child's soul?

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You lost me. I'm not waiting. It's how you finish. As to why I'm not recounting my experiences on this forum, it's very obvious don't you think? And if you look around I'm not the only one who has given up recounting those experiences. At least here anyways. I'm just going with the flow here in the capacity that it allows. Can I do that? What I do else where is another story however.

I hope that answered your questions.

Good day!

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Stargazer- I'm a lifelong abductee as are my children (not just that one- my others too)
What is one to do? Stand guard all night? I've had joint abduction experiences with my children, as I have said- I have never been harmed- neither has he- neither have the other ones.

Of course they go for youngsters- they track DNA........

I honestly think there are a lot of agendas going on- some are negative but some are not. I do believe in karmic balance.

So while many will see any abduction experience as a negative thing- others will come forward who have not been harmed etc;

At his age - they too took me places and told me a lot of information about the sun etc; I see the pattern......

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It's just weird. If I go with the flow, I don't keep telling everyone I'm going with the flow. It's like waving from the river without sharing your locale. What's the point?

Good day!

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Sorry if this comes across direct...but where my kids come in I deal in absolutes.....

Absolutely I would be on there hip 24\7 until I knew what was going on...And Karma ...fate ...whatever be d@mned.

I leave nothing to which way the 4 winds blow....especially when kids are involved.

Your "abduction" might have been good.... think about anytime the word "abduction" falls in the "good" word category.

abduction [æbˈdʌkʃən]
n
1. the act of taking someone away by force or cunning; kidnapping

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Stargazer- I have to ask you if you have read any material pertaining to the abduction phenomenon.

When they come for you there is nothing that stops them.

My being an abductee is one reason I became an *attachment parenting advocate* sleeping with them, babies/toddlers in slings, etc;

I was horrified when I found out my older children were abductees (at a year old) I never mentioned anything to them- they told me when they were around 13 years old.

They paralyze entire houses, they distort time, etc; by the time my third child was born I was horrified and not letting him out of my site.....but the majority of abductions happen during sleep and so what you are suggesting is that I stay up- you know I did that as a late teen- stay up at night and sleep during the day so they wouldn't get me. Guess what? It failed.

I am one of the abductees who think (this I uncovered with Mack years ago) that they are us from the future. I just read Jim Spark's book and he also agrees- as do the normal human's whom he met that were time travelers-
what he said was that is became common knowledge that the greys are us from the future- with the course the planet is on now (weapons of mass destruction- nuclear laden waste) the possibility of us looking like them is not so far off.......

And we have the other earth changes to contend with- maybe our DNA is altered and we end up looking like that.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, and I know it can sound scary to others - being abducted/taken from sleep etc;- but it happens and many are speculating as to the reason it's happening.......so many stories abound- what's if my children and I magnetically drew in positive abductors that want to save our DNA and those abductors might just turn out to be me as a future incarnation or some relative?

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Believing I have been abducted I do have to ask this question and I dont expect to be shot in the ass for asking it either.

Are we abducted in our sleep in our subconcious or are we actually taken from our homes.?

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I guess I don't think there is anything out of my control when it comes to my baby....but...you're right.

If they can do all that...I guess there was nothing you could do.

I guess now I have to ask the question:

If I knew something had intelligence and a soul ...would I just pluck them up without asking.

Even if I know my intentions were good...wouldn't I still ask permission??

I guess I still have to question and I'd still have to fight.

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For me both- my astral and physical body. As a child in my backyard I was taken many times during the day (yes, I was missing according to my mother and nanny and there are oddities because I had a guard dog and my nanny was never ever to leave my side due to circumstances I grew up under) but I suspect my nanny was put under as was the dog. Many times I was found on the beach afterwards but it get's odd because I am not sure whether that was for more human projects (with me it's a complex scenario that went on).

The way I can tell the difference between astral and physical is usually upon return. I have to get back in my physical body- they don't do this for me- although I'd like them too and they mess up and drop me on the floor etc;
it's odd.

I can tell when my astral body is floating and when my physical body is floating or projected- there is a huge difference for me.

With physical- there is a huge distortion that occurs.

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I have experienced plenty of missing time etc, lost a job through it once, but have to argue that i was actually abducted with myself. Have the usual marks on my body etc, but nothing like you are explaining...

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Exactly! Good for you.

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I would say both Ammit.

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Seriously. It seems to me that you're setting up a foundation for victims of abductions, experimentation, and other experiencer phenomena. To say so, is to acknowledge publicly that these programs, problems, creatures do exist. The hand of the government is deep in with the abductions. It's state-sponsored. The more it's in the open, the better, in my opinion.

I'll tell you why: Methods for healing and recovery. Anyway, shoot off my left foot if I'm wrong or you don't like it. Either way, I'm OK with it. {I think :sweatdrop:}

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Ok I have just sent a message to some one who asked me about it in my PM box so I hope they don't mind if I repeat my answer here...further down?

Hi Amat and Elini.. My reptilian is not in this dimension.
It is a phsychic exchange.
I was very wary at first when she revealed she was reptilian. I was convinced she was a negitive manipultor one or even a military black ops programe... but all this was in my sceptic head , in my heart I knew I knew her way way before this life and she was so close to me she was family...

As far as I know I have never been abducted...

Her energy and love was so strong but I had read they can make you feel all that love and light in a deception.. YET... I could only really contact and spaek clearly with her when in a very high meditive state and filled with love and happyness my self... now I've gotten better at communicating through other states...

here's PM' I sent to the othe Avalon inquistitor..

Hi ..
yes I'm rh neg.. but my fathers family are a sacred bloodline fanily... merovigin...

I have had phsychic contact with a spirit guide from as far back as I can remember... it was only a few years ago that she revealed that she was reptilian...

She comunicates through my solar plexus as well as pineal..

She is the one who led me to avalon....
Nassem haramien... george kavissalis.. and Diane Hayes... of the Voyegers/keyletonic science as well as Dan Winter... she said listen to thee people..

The more I meditated and conversed with her.. the more of her and my history she revealed to me through words.. feelings and pictures..

here's what i got and here's some of what I now remember...

I was a reptillian many many thousands of years ago. I was incarnating in the Orion star system and she was my mother... she was part of a dragon mother goddess preistess collective. I eneded up part of a rebel group during the Orion wars. There was a revolt amongst male warrior clans and they turned on the females.
Male, warrior Dinoids captured the priestess and they were imprisioned for a long time... think Dulce!! before this she helped me get away from them.
I was able to escape... she got me through the Orion gate and down to this 3d density around the time of the beginning of Atlantis... I remember it very clearly and the terrible rupture and seperation I felt from leaving her and my old world comming here to Earth. I knew I would forget my past as all do who incarnate here on theis planet but it was that or death...
She has been guiding me and yes she is able to connect with me through my reptilian DNA and feel what I feel through my phisical incarnations here.
it such a long story hard to relay it all here...
She has used this experiance to feel through me, life in 3rd density, as well as human emotions. I have lived many lives here before connecting with her again . I was drawn to the dark side during Atlantis.
She has been free and working for the benifit of this section of the galaxy now for quite some time...
Sometimes I get signals not to comunicate with her as there is interferance from the Negitive reptilians..
They are so phsychic... and work so many inginious manipulations... she sometimes goes off a bit maveric on her own with me... she never judges or wants harm to come to any one or any thing.. she is all about creation and nutering life... she has been conscious , in her current state or 8d body for thousands of years ...

I guess many will think I'm mad or delusional... I don't mind... It's very real to me...

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We were sold out...Our parents were sold out...our kids...sisters...brothers sacrificed for techno beads and the almighty dollar.

Now the day is coming when they have to take out and show us what they are hiding behind their backs....the free energy...the anti grav.

Even then...they'll throw us a couple of scapegoats.

But all this flies in the face of the creator force....the mover of galaxies with a thought

They can hide from us...his little lights...but they can't hide from him

No not from him....

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