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THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 02:56 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
so easy to point fingers, and, blame someone else
for spirit invasion/and, spirit attacks

and, yet - there is a law
- the law of attraction
and, one doesn't need to read too far into it

to discover, you are, what it is, YOU ALLOW

suit up ...
protect yourself...
& always, and, in all ways be diligent about it

there are as many timelines, as, there are people

there also is, a collective conciousness,
where everyone, is a piece of that

everything we have ever suggested to anyone,
we do it in a way, it totally protects you,
from all others, including us, by keeping things, in 100% alignment with YOU

we find it quite sad, that after, all the energy,
and, all the sharing, after 1000's of private emails,
that all these, so-called attacked people,
that many of you, do NOT choose to more closely eXamine,
the source of the root, that can block it,
thy_selves ...
yes, learn to know thy_selves

also we are aware of other things,
and, quite frankly, at this juncture,
if more of us, looked at our own roots,
and, built from there, NONE of this would happen

why is it, so many, need others, to answer their own questions ???

these answers, are your answers
~ NOT answers, others are supposed
to find for you, and, just give you the answers

we all need to get with it, and, get with ourselves

KNOW THY_SELF - or, aspects of THY SELVES

after a life, there is a review room,
during life, there should also be a review,
sometimes, when you just do NOT know,
it is time, to remove, the interference of others,
and, sit quiet, with thy_self/selves
and, discover, the 'real' answers

that is, what is called mining for your truth
and, doing it, that way,
is part of 'the responsibility' you have to deal with,
in peeling thru, all the layers of YOU

isn't it time, you all looked to the 'real' cuprit, in any equation ???

which, ironically, is always, and, will always be you,

what saddens us the most, is, that some of you,
actually were trying to hook us, up to some of these
so-called, 'the attack' senarios ~ when, in truth
we have done a lot of work, to help many people
to insure, that, they take back, their own control,
thru harnessing their own force/and, their own power
there are actually some of you,
who have been playing both sides of the table,
and, a round table, goes round, it has NO real sides
right now, my best advise, to anyone,
is this, learn to know thy_self, and, thy_selves

THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
a member here, gets publically humiliated,
and, accused of one of the most serious things of all,
and, it is NOT to be made public ???

where is THE TRUTH, in that ???

Steven 03-09-2010 03:02 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 252472)
great. as in PM?

There you go. :original:

Namaste, Steven

Steven 03-09-2010 03:05 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K626 (Post 252476)
And me please Stefanus. :original:

There you go K626us, :lol3:.

I'm just asking to keep it private and personal please. Thank you

Namaste, Steven

Steven 03-09-2010 03:07 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger (Post 252480)
a member here, gets publically humiliated,
and, accused of one of the most serious things of all,
and, it is NOT to be made public ???

where is THE TRUTH, in that ???

I said it wasn't about Abraxassinas, but the ones behind the thuban material. I have not made humiliation, nor accused anyone here. It is my right to ask to keep this event private and it is totally relevant and understandable.

Just calm down Susan.

Namaste, Steven

Myplanet2 03-09-2010 03:08 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Thanks, Steven.

Myplanet2 03-09-2010 03:12 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger (Post 252480)
a member here, gets publically humiliated,
and, accused of one of the most serious things of all,
and, it is NOT to be made public ???

where is THE TRUTH, in that ???

I have to agree with the idea that anonymous accusation is insane. I can't think of a more insidious way of attacking with impunity than through anonymous accusation. Anything can be done under that blanket umbrella.

People have a right to know "was an action just, or not".

K626 03-09-2010 03:14 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 252484)
There you go K626us, :lol3:.

I'm just asking to keep it private and personal please. Thank you

Namaste, Steven

Thanks again. :original:

Céline 03-09-2010 03:15 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
people have a right to know what?

the name of the accuser? Have you seen how viral this topic has gotten??

wouldnt that now be like throwing her to the wolves?? if the community had responded with warmth can coppasion perhaps they would have come out of the perverbial closet themselves

Just try..try to look past your anger at me ..and all the things unsaid..

and just use compassion...

hate me or not...despise what i say or how i say it... WE are ALL here for ONE reason...

The same reason..the same goal MP2...

i love you.

Myplanet2 03-09-2010 03:23 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Her? From Richards original announcement "After receiving complaints of sexual harassment by several members of the forum against the user abraxasinas."

So now several members has become a her, and in the latest announcement in the restoration of the Q&A thread, it becomes some vague reference to Abraxasinas activities on this forum and some posting in the social group.

Is that rat smell in the air.

Well, you know what they say, No accuser...no crime. I guess it's time to bring Abraxasinas back, since nothing has really happened.

Bring Abraxasinas back. Bring Abraxasinas back. Bring abraxasinas back. (and on and on)

We can play villager too.

Céline 03-09-2010 03:24 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Stop nit picking..

it seems you love abraxas very much, i am glad..he needs it.

Myplanet2 03-09-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Céline (Post 252501)
Stop nit picking..

it seems you love abraxas very much, i am glad..he needs it.

No. I neither like nor dislike abraxas. He's done nothing to attract my ire. But I loath injustice.

Unban him. or produce evidence. or listen to me squawk. or ban me. or ignore me. tons of options on the table.

orthodoxymoron 03-09-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
I see that the Thuban Q&A is back in read-only form...for better or for worse...I'm not sure. Use extreme discernment and caution folks. This could be a rare glimpse into a deceptive and dark side of life...which in many respects appears to just be a lot of numbers and meaningless gibberish. I suspect that one can almost come under some sort of a spell by becoming completely immersed in this material...without being properly prepared...spiritually, emotionally, and intellectually. By the way...I agree with Anchor's last comment regarding the 'attacks'.

I also see (or don't see) that my thread "Thuban Thoughts" is still unavailable...even in read-only form. Is this an oversight...or is there really a problem with this thread? Once again...I'm leaning toward the theory that abraxasinas is in the process of defecting from darkness to light...and that the walk-in entity may also be doing so. I know nothing about this sort of thing...so take these comments with a boatload of salt. I don't even know if that sort of thing is possible. OK...my computer is acting weird...so I'm going to stop. Hi guys.

:original: Namaste :wub2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wub2: Freedom :original:

Céline 03-09-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
my option..my choice is to love him..to love you..and to learn from my mistakes..

can you learn from your mistakes MP2?

K626 03-09-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Ah...the moment before the moment....

THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 03:34 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
pa/pc is first, and, fore-most

a research site

NOT a soap opera

~ if someone had accused you of this,
how would you feel, when you can NOT even speak,
to defend yourself

There is a good learning lesson, you know, in all of this

hunt for your answers within

if you play with fire, your fingers, can get burned

if you maliciously try to take another down,
with NO due cause, you will end up,
getting taken down yourself

the sooner, people learn,
to respect other peoples opinions,
and, state simply truth, as, truth actually is,
the faster, people will exchange,
and, they will learn

that is, the key to 'real' research

let the truth, be known

Agape 03-09-2010 03:35 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Theorethical maths is such a wonderful thing..it knows no religion, and so and so, it can't give answers to your 'quest for truth' either
unless you know where to cross those vast limitless boundaries extending in space over to the other side,
our mirror reality, where numbers read : truth, peace, love, compassion.

Remember that the whole story here is about logic and systems, and the game for an advanced adept in logical sciences has its rules ,
the rules are : how far can you go into explaining right everything ( infinite..) and stay logical and sane at the same time ..?

There are many ways how to do it but one of the most encompassing ones is about creating mirrors, systems of awareness that are able to hold certain quanta of theoretical facts tight together . Less personally you take it , better for you , but then again ,
where does it leave 'you', standing on the path ..


Most people in this world do not understand what way religions ( church , not exactly 'faith' as that is another item ) were taught to mankind as centralized systems and how , nowadays , mankind is thoroughly dependant on these implemented and borrowed concentrity,
using it everywhere from business to governments to education and all else,
and look what happens if any of these 'systems' fall out,
people feel lost and totally unhappy,
talk about realizing our freedom nature ..

The eagles of Spirit sore high in abstractions and all worldly is too mean and foreign to them,
the saying goes: '' the shadow of an eagle is a turtle on a ground''

Even with the best of intentions, you can't control, the light..and the shadow .

To control our mind, even the very refined analytical mind, requires that we embrace one subtle system or another .
The matrix, the grid, the times of magicians are over remind you, but it's all about systems .
Hold on to it or create a new one but know you can't replicate Divine Law in its infinity , in its precision,
in another words, the upper and lower limits are both touching zero but never reach there.

It's mirrors of reality in us reflecting much bigger mirrors. Even if you 'capture' the reality for short time, are we still able to record it ?


It also suggests, that we are all free to stand still, practise discernment and reflect the reality in the most amazing ways we are able to do so..


A:smoke:

Céline 03-09-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger (Post 252509)
pa/pc is first, and, fore-most

a research site

NOT a soap opera

~ if someone had accused you of this,
how would you feel, when you can NOT even speak,
to defend yourself

There is a good learning lesson, you know, in all of this

hunt for your answers within

if you play with fire, your fingers, can get burned

if you maliciously try to take another down,
with NO due cause, you will end up,
getting taken down yourself

the sooner, people learn,
to respect other peoples opinions,
and, state simply truth, as, truth actually is,
the faster, people will exchange,
and, they will learn

that is, the key to 'real' research

let the truth, be known

If you were at work...and your boss sexually harrassed you...would you be required to PUBLICALY tell everyone at work??

For God's sake people...take this "formula" off the forum for a second..imagine your sister..your wife..your friend...your self in this position??

Would you want to be thrown to these dogs...??

You people would rip her to shreds!!!

Such a lack of compassion from so many wise caring people...makes me very very sad.......

THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 03:40 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
people should think, before they act

Céline 03-09-2010 03:42 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
And Talk...


can you answer me exchanger? would a victim in real life be forced to come out of the pervebial closet? as you so demanded?

SteveX 03-09-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 252460)
Artful digging. impressive.

But I can't see much of anything satisfied by reopening the thread again, read only, or open for discussion. That was never my issue. I wanted to know what grounds founded the actions taken. We still don't know, and the story seems to be taking a little migration. The original announcement mentioned complaints of Sexual harassment. The current announcement accompanying the restoration of the thread, mentions only some posting in the social group as grounds for maintaining the ban, which last I checked, was still gone from view. So we still can't review the basis upon which the witch got himself hunted down and dealt with by the villagers.

And none of which detracts from your artful digging. (can somebody help me put reigns on my eyes? they go where ever they please, with no direction from moi.)

I consider myself an evenhanded grounded player. I can see the present situation, given a little give and take, as satisfactory for both sides of the debate. Having said that I do see your point of view and frankly I’m shocked by some of the posts in this thread. However, I think we’ll just have to accept the judgment of the Mods. I have faith that they banned Abrax for infringement of the rules. He broke the rules of his own volition irrespective to anything said before or after. Yes it’s open to speculation, given the bile in here, of a set up but it’s also possible that someone was harassed. What ever it was the line was stepped over hence the ban.

As for the cotton wool brigade it’s like living in the middle ages. God against the Devil, witches, trolls, gargoyles, spooks and black masses. Complete retrograde hogwash. Not to mention this “psychic attack” malarkey…open to falls claims and totally UN-PROVABLE. Burn the witch, burn the witch he/she gave me headaches, bad dreams, panic visions, he was in my wet dream. That’s what it looks like FFS.

The light, love and harmony, expressed by some, has about as much sincerity as a McDonalds “have a nice day.” How on earth are we going to advance if we don’t take charge of our own actions? How long are we to be victims of our fears, imagined or otherwise? You’ve presented yourselves as villagers at a burning. Naive, scared, fearful, vindictive. The witch wasn’t the problem. The problem is you. The witch could have simply been ignored and by doing so made POWERLESS. Call yourselves Enlightened..........indeed I am.

Céline 03-09-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveX (Post 252517)

Burn the witch, burn the witch

Ya i feel the flames...too

Go ahead say it..i asked for it.. i deserve it blah blah blah i really dont care..

i am what i am ...i cant change that

sigh...

Sides..sides sides sides..

Assez...

Like exchanger said.. Pa/Pc is what is important..

THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 03:51 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Céline (Post 252512)
If you were at work...and your boss sexually harrassed you...would you be required to PUBLICALY tell everyone at work??

For God's sake people...take this "formula" off the forum for a second..imagine your sister..your wife..your friend...your self in this position??

Would you want to be thrown to these dogs...??

You people would rip her to shreds!!!

Such a lack of compassion from so many wise caring people...makes me very very sad.......

if it was truthful, that the occurence really did occur,
it wouldn't just be telling people at work,
it would be A PUBLIC RECORD

everyone would know,if they wished to research it

if it is NOT the real truth,
why on earth, should someone be able to accuse another of such
awful things, and, then, be allowed to just disappear,
and, to just fade into the background,
that does NOT sound like 'full disclosure' or 'truth' to me

it could be sad, that, people who act this way,
don't need to be thrown to the dogs, they are 'the dogs'

discovery of truth, and, the ownership of ones actions,
does have consequences,
it kind of puts a spin on the phrase
deal in truth, or, face the consequences !!!

THESE ARE PUBLIC POSTING BOARDS

love is the end result,
certainly, compassion is a part of truth

frankly, speaking, we would NOT feel a great deal of compassion
for someone who knowingly, passed about lies, about us,
as, that wastes, a great deal of time,
for, if they, simply dealt in the truth,
to begin with, NONE of THIS, would have transpired,
NOW WOULD IT !!!

the best lessons in life, are always the toughtest ones

the divine male/and, divine female - are both already inside of us

it isn't necessary, to go to others, to mine for your own answers

search within, you already have the answers,
and, you do NOT need anyone else, to give you 'the answers'

personally, we feel, it is best, for all of us,
to likely disattach, from all others,
and, find our selves !!!

For there, deep within, there will be, many answers !!!

You are all heading, into a place, that is way beyond this 3D world

your own higher self, essence, and, monad,
is there, to help you/and, to lead the way

the real answers, will come, when you are ready, your self/thru your selves
to hear them, there is NO other way !!!

Céline 03-09-2010 03:53 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger (Post 252525)
if it was truthful, that the occurence really did occur,
it wouldn't just be telling people at work,
it would be A PUBLIC RECORD

everyone would know,if they wished to research it

if it is NOT the real truth,
why on earth, should someone be able to accuse another of such
awful things, and, then, be allowed to just disappear,
and, to just fade into the background,
that does NOT sound like 'full disclosure' or 'truth' to me

it could be sad, that, people who act this way,
don't need to be thrown to the dogs, they are 'the dogs'

discovery of truth, and, the ownership of ones actions,
does have consequences,
it kind of puts a spin on the phrase
deal in truth, or, face the consequences !!!

THESE ARE PUBLIC POSTING BOARDS

love is the end result,
certainly, compassion is a part of truth

frankly, speaking, we would NOT feel a great deal of compassion
for someone who knowingly, passed about lies, about us,
as, that wastes, a great deal of time,
for, if they, simply dealt in the truth,
to begin with, NONE of THIS, would have transpired,
NOW WOULD IT !!!

the best lessons in life, are always the toughtest ones

the divine male/and, divine female - are both already inside of us

it isn't necessary, to go to others, to mine for your own answers

search within, you already have the answers,
and, you do NOT need anyone else, to give you 'the answers'

personally, we feel, it is best, for all of us,
to likely disattach, from all others,
and, find our selves !!!

For there, deep within, there will be, many answers !!!

You are all heading, into a place, that is way beyond this 3D world

your own higher self, essence, and, monad,
is there, to help you/and, to lead the way

the real answers, will come, when you are ready, your self/thru your selves
to hear them, there is NO other way !!!

NO IT WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC RECORD

Laws protect victims if they so choose to remain anonymous...

Are you saying that law is unfair ?

THE eXchanger 03-09-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 
a round table, is just that round

time for all of us, to pull up our chairs

and, do something about being/making/and, taking all of our places

they are all equal seats

lets all park something into the seat that eXpands

we have all come, a very long way, to get here

we have all come, with different talents, etc.,

if you can NOT support one person, support another

and, for heaven sakes, remember, YOU ARE YOUR OWN BEST SUPPORT TEAM

SOMETIMES, if you do NOT truly love another

it is best, to take your love, and, put it into someone/or something else

there are threads here, on PA/PC,
that we do NOT choose to support,
or, be involved with,
as, currently, it is NOT that they do NOT have value,
it is only, that, we do NOT have time
to spread ourselves/and, our energy, everywhere

respect for others, is a key

if you can NOT give respect,
then, simply do NOT give anything

take your good energy, and, park it,
in places, you believe, it will make a difference

if all of us, where NOT necessary
all of us, would NOT be here in this time

trust your gut/and, your heart, along with your head

there isn't time to fight - align with what you believe in most

and, help those threads - sky rocket to the top

simple/easy, and, likely a lot more fun,
than these so-called soap operas !!!

time for everyone, to be the changes; they came here to be !!!

best to trust your hearts on that one !!!


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