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that was my thought on the subject. I know compasses have been deviating in the past few years. and true north isn't true. birds migrating patterns have been all off as well. I just read an article about hawks migrating to south america in large numbers not previous seen. mammals migration patterns also changing. whales beaching them selves. ect.



pole shift. I think its possible its time. Im thinking this may be the change coming down the pipe. as we have heard. after all this is why the megalithic monuments were built all around the world after the flood. in my opinion.



but think its just not planet earth. its universal. or at least our solar system. all the planets seem to be heating up from what I gather. affecting the brightness of stars like a mirage? did I spell that right. LOL. food for thought.

planet X.....

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Magnetic declination changes normally during the year. I'm not positivie(surveyors don't hardly do compass surveys nowdays) but around the month's of June or July is the worse time to take a compass reading for magnetic north.

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I am only going to say this one more time; If I say that the moon was wrong, its like it is written in stone and an absolute. I am not wasting 20 years of knowledge on a funny haha.

Yes. The earths rotation is not perfect, nor is the earths orbit. We have a 'wobble' along side an elongated orbit. In summer parts of the earth are tilted toward the sun i.e. its summer in the artic and 24 hour sunlight. Then wobbling along it slides over and the other end points at the sun, hence antartic gets 24hr summer sun. The sun therefore will rise and set in a slightly different spot every day due to the earths movement along its orbit as well as its tilt of axis. This is why we get 'longest day / shortest night' and 'Longest night/shortest day'.

The above is very simplified but I hope it paints a good enough picture.


I'm not saying its concrete truth, just an observation of events I have seen and thought about.

The entire above statement shows your being an ****. Did you bother to actually think about what you just wrote? JL said it was an old space station that arrived under its own power and has signs of being mined and old constructions in places upon it. As for the 'zip around the night sky at will' comment, please go and read up about gravity and mass effecting objects in close vicinity to others.

The satellites are in space and would have to project through maybe 100 miles of SPACE. No air distortion, nothing. The illusions is pointed downwards, not ground upwards.
As for glitches.... hubble failed, space shuttles fail.. aircraft fail... nuclear reactors fails... cars fail.... surgical equipment fails..

Nothing bar nothing is fail or fool proof.

Also, it is only one thought of mine because of seeing so many different but aerial events that I cannot explain through any normal physical explanations available through 'normal' channels of scientific reason.

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Magnetic north changes every day due to fluctuations. However, the 'wandering' of mag north is massively changing, effecting alot of animal species. have a look though at this how its changed through the last couple of hundred years.

http://www.greatdreams.com/solar/mag...north-pole.gif

One thing that worries me is the chandler wobble has been erratic. Thats not good news. Also it could explain a few mistimes risings of the stars and moon.

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I would also think if it wasn't just a hologram. we would see the affects on the oceans. large tides. rising sea levels. ect. interesting subject. is it all possible. I was dismissing the theory of the sky being a hologram as hoax. most of what I hear on this is channeling information from the plegaren light workers. who I'm not dismissing. but haven't looked into in depth. and seems to be a reptilian agenda.

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way hey !! I'm not alone !!

My Partner and I have been noticing some very odd cloud formations as late. This last month has been crazy.
We have always carried our cam just incase we get a nice shot. This last month we have just been overwelmed by the oportunities that we have had. We seem to be saying "wow look at that" "omg thats amazing".
things are odd very odd.

I'll spend some time over thenext few days to gather the latest pictures to share with you all.

Bobcat Wales

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The tone of your reply suggests that I have angered you in some way, Sol. Sorry if that's the case, that is not my intention.

I think that I am equally qualified to have an opinion though. That it is different to yours should not in any way be an affront.

I believe what you report you have seen, as I do the others posting on this thread. And I appreciate the thoughts you have on the matter. So I am not challenging what you have witnessed, or wish you to have another thought on the matter. I can no more prove the non-existence of holographic equipment, than you can its existence. That there are anomolies is very interesting and I'm glad that you have posted your thoughts. Who knows? you could be right, and that is not sarcasm.

My comment about the two to three days fast growth was relating to another post on that subject, not to your comment about the unexplained movement of the moon.

Thanks for the explanation regarding the movement of the sun, I'm aware it's due to a wobble, what interests me though is why East does not become East plus x degrees as the sun moves in it's travel at the rising setting point. If a town is due East of me and the sun moves from it's rising point above that town during the course of the year, what then? Viewing from my window, this movement seems to take up something like a quarter of the horizon over the course of a year. I've never understood that

As for calling me an ****... well, it's your right to have an opinion on that too. I'm not going to return on that one.

Peace,

K

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Wow... global Truman Show.

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Just a quick FYI for you all on phases of the moon

* another neat site where you can embed the current moon phase on your site:

John
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Actually, I can prove they can make false stars in the sky. :) They have done it to make stabilised super telescops that get rid of atmospheric wobble whilst ground based.

They 'make' a star at about 80 thousand feet above sea level and use real time image stabilisation to combat the airs 'wobble' on the beam to produce a perfect image.

That system mounted on satellites beaming down could make a whole newconstellation and we would be none the wiser.
Suprised, but no wiser as to where it came from.

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maybe I shouldnt bother as I didn't realize this was a heated debate.

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Bobcat, carry on mate, your comments and views are just as vallid as any one elses

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Thanks man :)

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Shows my lack of understanding it all, I never even thought of it coming to earth only from, more food for thought, nice one

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Theres no heated debate. Just a great deal of people trying to make some sense of the wierdness around us.

The suns too bright, stars move and appear and disapear, the moon phases in and out at random in some instances...

If you have pics I would be doubly glad to see them.

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Wow, I noticed something very weird like this too with the moon the other night, but I think my brain just winnowed it out.
Thanks for jolting into remembering!

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shows I probably think too much about it too....but I sure as heck am going to keep trying to figure it out.

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My bad Sol and everybody !

I'm just a little sensitive at the moment. I'll click away and post them here :D

It's very freaky at the moment. Btw, i'm about to start burning dvd's so I can hand them out at my food outlet ;)

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I imagine it's the Photon Belt, and the dark Rift? Maybe?
Or the timelines zipping in and out?

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I think you should always bother Bobcat, and I wouldn't consider this a heated debate. There have been a few around lately for sure, but this isn't one of them.

I read Avalon because I am interested in the views experience and information that other people have to offer.

There has been much talk of the existence of advanced holographic technology. John Lear is but one proponent of its existence and claims that it was used to project images of planes hitting the twin towers.

So maybe it exists. I don't believe that the night sky I look at is one holographic projection. But just because I don't believe it doesn't mean that it isn't true! I don't think that's a heated debate, just a difference of opinion.

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If you get good footage, people will really sit up and take notice.

One thing, are you near wales and sennybridge training area?

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Well, i read somewhere that the earth was supposed to be slowing down, i tried to think on them lines for a while, but hey, its beyond me

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Ahhhh the penny drops. I am so sorry - did you think I was going to drop in a 'they used it at 9-11' argument? oh no, believe me I totaly 100% believe that real planes hit real buildings that day. No holograms involved.

Space holograms however I do believe in, as I have seen how easy it was to make one set of stars for an experiment. Also, I watch the science papers for mumurings of the black worlds abilities via friends work places.

That the whole sky is false? maybe. That parts of it could be? for certain in my honest estimation.

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the Chandler wobble stopped for a few days in 2005 (november time).

That scared a few folks in the science community.

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Thanks Kulapops :)

Sol, I live between sennybridge and pembroke. I'm right in the hills m8. I take my fishing boat out from pembroke and if I get to close I get pounded by the military!! They steam up and say " Hi, your not going any further? Good as you can't"

I'm in a middle place :/

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Then I am not suprised your seeing weird things in the sky to be honest.

I seen such madness above Senny that i wouldn't even bother sharing it here. if you can get footage, that would be ace.

Oh one thing, have you ever seen that retangular UFO that floats about at times? deep purpley black colour? about the same size as a pair of chinooks side by side. ?

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Sol, no I havn't seen the triangle or retangular shape. I do know what your talking about though. Best I have captured is that "ufo picture?" thread I posted a few months ago "in a thunderstorm".
I'll be clicking away like crazy "as usual".

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Last two weeks in England I've notice the beautiful red skys at dust and a stranger clear light at dawn, hard to describe but people have phone the radio stations reporting the same thing all accross the country.

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Something really strange happened to me two days ago. I was waiting for my bank yo open - usually at 9 but it did not - I saw a note saying that today it opened at 9.30 - this was now 9.10, so I went to the public loos in the shopping centre - a round trip of about 15 minutes. I walked back towards thbe bank and saw the church clock that read 9.25, I checked my wrist watch and the time said 9.10 - the same time it was the time I chceked it before leaving the bank steps. My watch was fine - only looses about 2 minutes a month and it is a self winding watch so no dodgy batteries. Time some how stood still.

The moon a month or so ago - one day was a half moon and two days later was a full moon. Today, when you could see it, the sun looked like the moon - not that odd I know, but they have sort of been in the wrong place in the skys of late also.

The 4th dimension here we come - if you've got a hat, then best hold onto it - tightly.

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I wasn't going to post on here again, but this is too important.

instead of SEEING what your short distance survival detectors SEE, try to THINK.
Think of how you SEE, that what you view is not moving as per those short distance detectors tell you.
think instead of the so called empty space , actually moving, and in such a way that an illusion is given of movement, an illusion of light coming from the sun.

then think of water going down a plug hole, think of space doing a similer thing, and as it does it tightens into a spiral point, after which the spiral will turn and twist in the opposite direction.
to your short distance eyes, the sun and moon will appear to arise from where they had died, and from then on, they will rise and set in the opposite direction as per now.

the sun will die for three days, all will turn black, as no light is created.

IT IS NOT THE SOLIDS MOVING AT ALL.
We are in a matrix, a lattice structure where everything moving , is the aether that creates all from higher dimensions.
You are noting the beginnings of the compression of time into a spiral point, where everything will descend into chaos, then the sun will arise after three days.
We will all know all of time, the past, now and future, all at once, a golden age of enlightenment will follow.
but the ride will be wacky.
Hobbit

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I don't suppose any one saw the 'inky sky' sunrise over the UK last week? I was sat at 5 am watching the sky and decide dto stay up for the sunrise.

Dammest clearest blackest/blue-est skies I have ever seen.

It was like the sky at 80k had dropped down to near sea level it was so inky blue/black.

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NoI didnt, but during a semi sunny day this week the wife and I nticed a planed going over and leaving a bluey black trail behind it, unusual as the parts of the sky that wernt blue were dotted with white clouds, it did however dissipate very quickly.

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Good God! We actually may be onto something here.

:eyes:

I have spent I don't how long trying to search " How many degrees does the moon move in the sky in one day?" You would not believe the convuluted mess you have to go through to get this simple answer. I finally found this post by a Dr. Mike Fanelli which appears to be the simplest answer you're going to get on the internet.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=3&gl=us

He says the moon should appear 13 degrees east of it's position on the previous day at the same time. This still doesn't explain the discrepancy of me seeing it at atleast 45 degrees in one day or the TC's seeing it at 145 degrees in 2 days?

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Using stellarium software yo can use any date you like and see the exact spot the sun and moon are supposed to be in.

Stellarium is totaly free as well, and is awesome.

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Yea, I looked at some animations and I got a good lesson in astrology also and to be honest I got a headache. I got a a pretty clear understanding of the scientific answer to all of this by the time you take into account of one spinning one way and one orbiting another way and the time it takes, but I know what I saw and I have no reason to disbelieve what someone else may have saw and something is NOT RIGHT!

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This reminds me of something I read fairly recently about ETs using time travel technology to prevent astroids/meteors (and maybe Nibiru) colliding with Earth. The inhabitants of Earth, naturally, wouldn't be aware of the time jumps as they were happening. However, it would be apparent from astronomical observations.


Also, I had a dream last night about seeing the moon being much larger in the sky than normal, like 10-20 times bigger, and asking a friend if they saw it, too; then today I stumble upon this thread....

I definitely need to start paying more attention to the night sky.


As for the moon being a space station, there is some historical evidence for it. The term lunatic was originally used to describe a sect of people who worshipped the moon. The word has taken on a different meaning since the Catholic church came about. Anyway, the reason the lunatics started worshipping the moon was because it never used to be there.

Also, there are ancient astronomical records (I can't remember which culture they are from) that state the moon used to be twice the size in the sky as the sun, meaning it used to be much closer to Earth than it currently is.

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Hey folks, i was out in the car earlier this evening with my son and i pointed out to him what a wonderfully clear night it was and how we could see so many stars.

Then when i came home i logged in, and found this thread.
All the talk of the moon doing funny things made me realize something. I couldn't remember seeing the moon while i was out.
So i went out into my back garden to have a look, nothing. I walked right round my house and there was no moon at all.

This was a few hours ago.
So i read the rest of the thread, then started writing this and decided to check again, still no moon.

Does anybody know if this is normal?

Mind you, if you can see the moon in the daytime, then folks at the other side of the world in darkness must be missing a moon.

Did i just answer my own question?

Any thoughts?

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Yea, this is normal. Were actually in a period now where you can't see it. It want become visible till another couple days.

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Cheers for that.:thumb_yello:

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This looks like a fun thread. Ready for some additional information?

Last summer I was editing a book for Paolo Harris where one of her insider guest was talking about some of NASA's discoveries (tests) with respect to the moon. A bomb was set off after one of the moon landing team had left and they measured the bomb's impact and also noted that the moon rang like a bell. Meaning it was hollow. I've also read a number of other unpublished insider info where it was explained how the moon was towed here as a spacecraft and used as a base on the backside. In fact, according to some witnesses, who claimed to have been there, there is a lot of activity on the backside of the moon and I've seen photos of some of that info. Richard Hoagland has tons of info on this along with info on Mars as does John Lear.

I had also read where the moon would be moved if there were to be some major earth changes - perhaps a pole shift (I'm a bit foggy on this as it was awhile when I read this).

One would think it odd that the moon is the only heavenly body that doesn't spin where the backside becomes visible to those on earth. However, if indeed it were an artificial body, a spaceship, then it would make sense the oddities many have observed.

Next as to the suns brightness, this is due to the thinning of the ozone layer. As our atmosphere becomes thinner the sun's light becomes brighter. I recall seeing paintings by the masters in Paris where the atmosphere was much softer as compared to the light of today and had read the scientific info about this phenomenon somewhere else as well.

Please keep in mind this is a cyclic horizon event we are moving towards when our planet will indeed pass across the galactic center of our galaxy. This has happened before and will happen again. What we are seeing are the subsequent earth changes as a result of this process. Even if there were no CO2 emissions from industrialized society there is plenty of CO2 in the ocean as it is the ocean, which is producing, I believe, over 60 plus percent of CO2 into our atmosphere now. As the sun heats up from the electrical exchanges of passing comets and asteroids (given where were are in the armature of the Van Allan belt. "The Van Allen radiation belt is a torus of energetic charged particles (i.e. a plasma) around Earth, trapped by Earth's magnetic field), the sun is like an electrical capacitor increasing in activity." This activity also affects the earth's core heating it up which in turn is the reason for millions of underwater volcanoes heating up, which in turn heat up the oceans. There is tons of methane gas down at the bottom of the oceans and with a few well-placed CMEs that gas could easily be released creating massive explosions out gassing above the waters surface.

Now here is the next bit of info that recently came my way. "Friends working in UK defence companies who have sent 'priority' emails out. They are going off grid as of July 2009 because of 'problems coming down the pipe line' that are being 'hidden' from view by the credit crunch and its engineered woes.

So consider this a heads up, and you can either ignore it, ponder over it or use it to prepare. I am planning to be off grid by August 2009. 3 months every one has planned for. Total readiness for Sept onwards for a 3-month window of needing to be off grid. Locations are being readied as we speak in mountain regions with caves. Being underground is a very large print part of the message."

I found this message very interesting and am passing it on as the issue at hand here is the possibility of CMEs by next years end impacting the planet. This also has happened in the past and in fact Canada got the last hit that I'm aware of and ended up a bit of a mess in the impacted area. A solar flare in 1989 blacked out all of Quebec, Canada. Then there was the Solar Magnetic Cloud (SMC)/Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) event of January1997 triggered ... Svalbard and in the polar cap region over Eureka, Canada. So it would seem that it is the northern hemispheres that tend to have been targeted when these past two events occurred.

This information, along with some intuitional hits is why our research team are now brainstorming on how to prepare some very cheap underground structures as a means to protect oneself from these type of events. As Jim Marrs says, "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst." Which is exactly what we are doing in our own small way.

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One point to note re: people saying the sun is getting brighter. In actual fact, over the last 30 years the sun has been measured as getting dimmer in the sky. There is actually a bit of concern in some scientific circles.