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Welcome =)

I suspect that would have to be a standard line spun to the crews manning these planes however if that was so and the spraying was to our benefit then I would expect the MOD to come forward and tell the populations that this is what we are doing and why we are doing it. Thier failure to do so speaks volumes.

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You may want to read my post on "What do 81 Dead Scientists have in Common?" This is the desired population reduction scheme. The Powers that Be consider this to be the most optimal without causing to much collateral damage to the environment and resources. Not to mention they have the cure to project their sorry butts.

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interesting read. ever see them at night? would also love to see video of a plane spraying a pattern (actually turning ~180 and continue to spray). i still linger on the question that they may be used to block sunlight, thus have an effect on the warming and subsequent cooling of the earth (which i believe has little to nothing to do with C02 -- other planets are warming as well according to what i've read).

if aerosol trails CAN be seen at night, especially in the early evening just after it gets dark, then i would tend to think they are not for effecting climate change, at least not as far as blocking sunlight.

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You can search on the internet and find government documents calling it "cloud seeding." They have admitted it in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, saying that it will increase precipitation during the winter seasons and make the tourist season longer. They have been "seeding" the couds for some time now. Of course I am sure that what ever they are seeding the couds with is not good, weather it be barium or whatever. I have heard of making organites or cloud busters.

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Early june or so, there was a quick blurb about a report in Russia.

A report that a bag of "cement" fell from one of these planes and crashed through some persons house.

When the Russian governemnt was asked what this was they replied that they were trying to help the weather.

This was reported by Michael Reagan (I'm pretty sure) durring his daily propaganda show, it was the only report I heard.

If some one wanted to take the time to go back and listen to this guys archives I'm sure it's there. Again this took place end of May or early June.

As far as your Pic, some guy commented that these are some sort of ballast sytem used on the larger airliners.

/salute

Jeff

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Don't like chemtrails and wanna do something about it?? Build yourself an orgone generator-they work.

I built one and it has been standing in the middle of my backyard since Feb of last year. After I put it out there-I noticed a change-the trails dissipated very quickly and they no longer leave cloud cover like before. I live about 200 miles from 3 major airports that crisscross my area daily. I had many , many very frustrating back and forths with chemtrail debunkers on that other site and they could not convince me with their arguments that I was seeing "contrails".

anyway check this out-
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_...generator.html

It's lots of fun to build one, like a science project!

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"In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself."


There is only one problem with this test. Every day there are god knows how many foriegn objects that enter our atmosphere from outer space, plus all the various air born "trash" from our own enviroment. The contamination would be near impossible to sort through.

I think there are groups of people testing water sources, and they have found proof of high barium counts in some of these tests. I know they are doing some water tests in cedar falls, I.A., though this is most likely to check for farm chemicals (IMO).


/salute

jeff

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In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. I worked for the network tv there as a photojournalist and recorded many different scenes of either spraying or strange explosions in the sky. Including flaming pieces of unknown origin. I alerted a lot of people within the news to it and everyone though I was just crazy for ufos. Now I'm glad to be out of that loop and sharing thoughts with people who listen. I also tried numerous times to get an insider story about HAARP technology which is based in Alaska. Once again, some though it was a good idea, but weren't willing to lift a finger towards the funding of the trip or the time it would take to do a decent story about it. A person named Dr. Nick Begich offers this website which links to a lot of other info to HAARP. Chem-trails are really not a concern of a lot of people including scientific groups, arguing there is volcanoes spewing way more carbon into the atmosphere than a zillion jets combined. As others have said, people are really involved with other things, besides noticing the subtle things going on around them. I wouldn't consider chem trails subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who pays attention to the skys.

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What time of year were you seeing these, or is it something you have been seeing for longer than the last few months on a constant basis?

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in january and feburary of this year, the local hospitals had to quarantine (this might not be the right word) all hospitals in asheville. no visitors were allowed. at that same time this area was being sprayed at least 5 out of every 7 days. i sent links with chem trail information to all of my city commisioners and asked them to look into this. the local airport here denies that they are in the skies. coo coo!

it seems that the only way to do anything these days is thru grassroots politics. and at this point the most prudent thing to do is to acknowledge this activity is taking place and then get down to protecting ourselves from the madness.

the independent tests that have been done show that everyone needs to be detoxing their bodies of heavy metals and fungi/molds. magic mineral is suppose to do a great job with detoxing this stuff.

i see birds flying around now with their wing feathers in such a mess, some missing, others caked with something i have not identified. lots of defoliation with the tips of trees as well, much more than i have noticed, since i bagan noticing 15 years ago.

it is a good topic to discuss here, as i have read in some of the replies where they were unaware of this stuff.

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heres my two cents.
i live and work in outback australia (western nsw) on a sheep and cattle station, and have spent several years watching both con and chemtrails. imo there is a huge difference between them. some days the entire sky is covered, and there is a lot of sky here on the plains. a specific example would be the day before the huge storm that hit melbourne earlier this year while prime minister kevin rudd was doing his first state visit to the US. a demonstration perhaps....

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Your absolutely right about the people getting sick, they are hitting us VERY hard up here and then using HAARP to cause the scalar clouds we see everyday and the news weather person is calling them gravity clouds- can you believe that???? Never was tought about gravity clouds in school- have you? They just put in the newspaper the other day that this was the coldest summer we've ever had.

Yes, they do spray at night here also all the time.


Anyways, as I've stated in other posts, I too have alot of orgones devices that keeps the chemtrails, negative energies etc away from our vicinity and keeps us from getting sick which I'm very greatful for :original: .

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I am in definite agreement that Chemtrails are part of HAARP, weather control, depopulation, environmental degradation, Electromagnetic soup for whatever they have that we don't know about. They have patterns, and I have seen them for years and years. Even in movies you can see them. Contrails are merely ice crystals which dissipate quickly. These things hang around for a long time, whiting out the sky, stopping rainfall, and probably steering and controlling the strength of hurricanes. They do make you sick. Arizona Skywatch has the lab results of the metals in them, and others have reported fiber webs containing dessicated blood cells, stealth pathogens, fungi, molds and other serious biohazards. Eye infections are a new problem. Morgellons is still being investigated. I also believe they are directly killing some plant life, including trees and edibles. They do get into our water systems, and the combination of fluoride and aluminum can cross your blood/ brain barrier. We do have an epidemic of Dementias, Multiple Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, Type II diabetes, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War syndrome, and autoimmune diseases. Chemtrails are lately sprayed at night, and over the tops of storm fronts. Protecting your immune system is really important right now. We are lucky if we have a day or two of blue sky! I have been researching these for about 4 years now, and they just seem to get worse.

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Earth - the sickest planet in the milky way?

So whats it going to take to stop this? Its obvious that its happening. Even if its just contrails its still pollution and destroys the natural beauty of the sky.

Where the bleep is anti-gravity?!

Today I wish/manifest an end to this madness of chemtrails on my planet.

:mfr_omg: I SEE BLUE SKIES...and anti-gravity propulsion for everyone. :thumb_yello:

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Please note; there is a weather forecast site (owsweather.com) from Ontario, Southern California, that has a daily tracking map for North America (and now also Europe) on chemtrail -flow current locations. I have been monitoring the site for a few weeks, and have definitely noticed frequent sinus and throat problem symptoms, along with pain and joint stiffness within my body- on days with high and highest alert conditions. Check the site out, for it covers a multitude of interesting weather conditions and phenomenon.
giovonni

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Hi
We Had a web of trails over Canberra This morning.
manda

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Hey would you point me to directions for a chemtrailbuster.
Thanks
Manda

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From what I have looked at there was enough to convince me that there is a very high probability they are real. What, when, where , and why is still full of possibilities.

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Here in Australis its openly called cloud seeding.
read between the lines of these sites..
its totally ok for economic reasons oh and of course for rain.. its been happening here since 1947..
I dont believe they are using silver either.. more like Aluminium..
I read somewhere that the residues are impacting the eco system and are traceable. So common sense prevails in all our experiences.

Break out the Chemtrailbusters



Cloud seeding In the Snowy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2343417.htm
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/n...mountains/9746
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/basic/eve...t31Jan2007.pdf
http://www.thredbo.com.au/weather-an...ud-seeding.asp
Its affects may Linger
http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=vie..._id=EC45p3.pdf

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seriously you guys these WORK. it's easy and fun and it is better than watching the skies helplessly being polluted with that crap.

go for it

BTW it is not necessary to use copper pipe- aluminum or any other kind is fine, copper is extemely expensive these days so don't let that stop you-the important ingredients are the metal shavings and crystals!! Also you can make smaller orgone devices in muffin pans and place them near cell phone towers. I made some and put them near the refinery where I live and all the cell towers in this town have been "busted".

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Pilot thanks for the practical information. Are you aware of Morgellons Disease associated with Chemtrails?

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I have some pics from here in Alberta and will work on them getting posted. The one of the "spade-shaped" hole within the "cloud" is pretty amazing.

EDIT: feel free to peruse my albums

-John aka#404

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Hi, Folks:

Here are two really interesting photos (one an enlargement of the other) of a chemtrail being sprayed by a disk-shaped 'black' aircraft over Colorado earlier this year.

http://projectcamelot.org/orb3norm.jpg

http://projectcamelot.org/orb3mag.jpg

Source: http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

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Bill.... that just made me speechless. I just got my pics uploaded and there is no way I can beat
that one. :)


----

I have created a few albums on my profile folks so take a look. For here I'd like to link to the photos
where I was taking a shot of the remnants of a trail that had spread and all of sudden a few seconds
later a hole appeared with the same.

* The "hand-shaped" craft also disappeared after I took the photo. :bleh:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/p...&pictureid=759


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/p...&pictureid=756

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Good for you Pilot, Im on to it.
That photo of Bill's is something else, frightening.
Number 404, they're showing off making right angled holes in clouds, even more frightening.

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We get chemtrails like crazy here to. They are absolutely real.

www.californiaskywatch.com

The Discovery Channel Special entitled "Owning The Weather" (About Weather Modification) http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83364410309502

NR23.net Alan Marsden's Website From deep in the Norwich GoldenTriangle
http://www.nr23.net/

MoD test of aerial spraying over Norwich
http://www.nr23.net/spray.htm

The Dorset Biological Warfare Experiments 1963-75
http://www.nr23.net/spray_dorset.htm

BBC Article - Inquiry into spray cancer claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...lk/4507036.stm

Thousands Exposed to Poison by Government's Aerial Spraying
http://www.naturalnews.com/022434.html

"Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025" PDF File (csat.au.af.mil) - Aug. 1996.
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

The effects of cadmium spraying over a city [Norwich, England] in the 1960s are to be investigated after claims that it was linked with cancer of the oesophagus. (Alan Watt : Norwich wasn't the only city to be sprayed by CHEMTRAILS since I can remember huge figure 8 and giant X's which lingered for many hours over parts of Scotland during this time period.)
See MSDS Toxicity Sheet for Cadmium
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Cadmium-9923223


• OPEN SKIES TREATY - RELATED LINKS
You type in your browser:
Open Skies Treaty "Fact Sheet" from: Bureau of Arms Control - Washington, DC:
http://www.state.gov/t/ac/rls/fs/2004/33147.htm
Open Skies Consultative Commission:
http://www.osce.org/
Treaty on Open Skies (As a PDF File):
http://www.osce.org/item/13764.html



"The government says they don't exist, but Kucinich wants Congress to take action" by Bob Fitrakis, Columbus Alive (at globalresearch.ca) - Jan. 24, 2002.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/FIT203A.html
...
The debate surrounding the federal government's alleged weather modification experiments has landed in the U.S. Capitol, thanks to Cleveland Democrat Dennis Kucinich. Representative Kucinich introduced the Space Preservation Act of 2001 on October 2 last year, seeking a "permanent ban on [the] basing of weapons in space."

The bill, HR 2977, specifically outlaws a variety of weapons detailed in the December 6, 2001, Columbus Alive article "Stormy Weather," which exposed allegations of secret government aerial spraying activities. Kucinich's bill explicitly outlaws "chemtrails."

Alive asked Kucinich why he would introduce a bill banning so-called chemtrails when the U.S. government routinely denies such things exist and the U.S. Air Force has routinely called chemtrail sightings "a hoax."

"The truth is there's an entire program in the Department of Defense, 'Vision for 2020,' that's developing these weapons," Kucinich responded. Kucinich says he plans to reintroduce a broader version of the bill later this month. "Plasma, electromagnetics, sonic or ultrasonic weapons [and] laser weapons systems" were among those banned by HR 2977....


Peeping Through The Clouds (Chemtrail Detail)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d92uEoROvw

http://parallelnormal.com/2007/05/26...-about-clouds/
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...May252007.html


Alan Watt discusses chemtrials on a daily basis,

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/chemtrails.html

http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellat...HEMTRAILS.html

http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellat...oAlbum275.html

here are a few links to ones which he discusses chemtrails:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...Sept032008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...June132007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...June142007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...June272007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...July192007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c..._Oct252007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c..._Aug112008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...June272008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...July302008.mp3

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here are just a few pics ive taken myself

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3850/im000365vn8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/418/im000366jq5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5861/im000368zo2.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5082/im000369zl4.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2057/im000370dh8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5134/im000377sj3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4359/im000385ya3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/552/im000386xt5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5200/im000388bq7.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8880/im000393mq9.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/784/im000394nz0.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2020/im000395sq0.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3841/img0017ck2.jpg

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Hello beloveds..

Answer is yes...:mfr_omg:

Why ?

Dark reasons...for it is done behind the curtain...:lightsabre:

Any chance to succeed ?

No..:mad3:

Why ?

They do not count the power of few...:gathering:

Just relax and enjoy the ride:surfing:

Love and Peace

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Heres a small collection that I could find off hand that I shot in Alaska over the past 2 years. Mostly all around the Anchorage Mat-Su Area.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08007copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08008copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08031copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08032copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08019copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08020copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-08021copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07089copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07090copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07091copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07092copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07093copy.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...-07104copy.jpg

Heres a few others that I witnesses happening. I didn't get my camera set up quick enough to get the very beginning of the explosion. It started as a small blackish dot and then did what you see below.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...Formation3.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...Formation2.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...BFormation.jpg

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Hi Questiny,

Yes, I have read about Morgellons but have no direct contact with anyone who has suffered from it. I understand that physicians actually tried to convince people it was all in their minds...yeh

I've got little threads growing out of my skin, but I'm just imagining things, right doctor, thanks!

It seems to be associated with chemtrails but is there any definitive proof that it is the cause? I think they derseve the blame but that's just me. It's a very strange and creepy affliction, I feel for those poor folks who've had to deal with it. It must be awful.

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It is worse than what you think:shocked:

Read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons08.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...eticfood07.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons02.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...s.htm#contents

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OH yes they are real! These photos were takin in a short time one morning,friends three hundred miles away had the same thing going on. A checker board sky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LzF...eature=related

http://www.owsweather.com/contrailreport.html

http://www.bariumblues.com/index.htm

http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL50v...eature=related

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I had not heard or thought about this. Very intriguing and chords with me. Do you have any information on this?

Yes chemtrails are real. Go to- weatherwars.info
Excellent site. Love and Peace.
Greg

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You got it..... Hey others are waking up as well YIPEEEE:thumb_yello:

Great to hear it.. All of the pieces fit from NWO to the Stars (we are to Acsend THIS time... We have been here BEFORE and blown ourselves up!! NOT THIS TIME BUDDY! HA:mfr_lol:

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I personally do believe they are spraying.

I would love to know what and who are in command of these affairs, i do have an airport just outside my town (Cessna) that is quite large. For about 6 months they have been flying and doing test flights at night, my town has about 5000 people and to hear 2 of them fly right over your house at 2 am is something that makes you yell at them! hahaha i just thought of myself running outside and giving the old man fist shake at some black helicopter :lol3:

Never have i seen a chemtrail though.

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YES, they are real. The week of the DNC they were spraying like crazy here and I live in the middle of nowhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VmAQqi3OJc

What no one has suggested is calling the sylphs. Sounds crazy, but I saw it work. After 3 days of spraying, I called the sylphs and they decimated the trails. Now anytime I see a trail I call them.

Picture of sylph over my house:

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Hi Sarahmay,

What is a sylph?

i have not heard of this. Interesting. This was outside in my sky one day about 3 weeks ago. It looked like a winged being (in bottom) in front of a plane with spray coming off the back. I thought it was so strange I took a picture...by the time I got the batteries in my camera it had changed shape a bit and the lighting was fading as it was late afternoon but you can still see it...

maybe its just nothing have a look. (as I have since learned...maybe its a sylph and started a thread to learn more SYLPH Thread)

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Looks like a sylph attacking a chemtrail!

Sylphs are air elementals. Native Americans referred to them as the Thunderbirds. Sylphs are a class of highly evolved Etheric beings who work with the "spirit of the air" a very great deva who manages the world's air, clouds, weather. Well, technically they've a number of labels: Sylphs, Air Sprites, Rods, Elementals-of-the-air, Lower_devas, Spirits of the Air.

Above taken from here: http://www.whale.to/b/sylphs_h.html

Call them out and see if they will appear for you.

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Chemtrails have been persistent in New York for quite some time now, and it's definitely weather related. After they're sprayed, it gets hazy and/or cloudy and/or windy. Like clockwork.