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sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 05:47 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
[QUOTE=Orion Morris;78875]

skeptical because David is suppsed to be on a higher level....



orion... you hit the nail square on the head thanks........

Orion Morris 11-13-2008 05:53 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Sorry Jaby you are wrong... you took the opposite view on the subject... which is division in its purest form... I am in the same boat.. we are divided on the issue....

For you to censor any view is counter productive...

If we are going to be allowed to bash anybody for any reason we should be allowed to do it freely... Bash Obama, Bush, Blair, who cares...




Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 78888)
No...I was the first to point out that the motives of the thread starter MAY be suspect. Notice I said 'MAY'.

I wish to passionately defend David Wilcock from what I perceive to be an unwarranted and over-the-top attack.

Actually saying he's gone over to the dark side!! Sheesh. Now THATS what I call divisive. Why shouldn't I go in as heavy as the thread-starter did...?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.....:lightsabre:


Sarahmay 11-13-2008 05:57 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Humans are omnivores. Most people, if given the opportunity, will eat meat if it is available. How many "lapsed" vegetarians do you know? I know many.

I do eat mainly free range humanely slaughtered meat, which I select carefully and pay dearly for. And I eat small portions.

This holier than thou stuff about meat eating is out of line.

Please--sunshineseastar--eat whatever you wish but stop policing other people's plates.

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 06:00 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
and jaby....i donīt understant why if you are soooooooooo offended you keep reading this thread........what ever happend to "i may not agree with what you say but i will defend your right to say it untill death ?"

Orion Morris 11-13-2008 06:05 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarahmay (Post 78904)
humanely slaughtered meat



hahahaha.... kind of an oxymoron there.

Who gives a sh*t what meat we are eating... it is all nasty... the arguement is not about eating your fruits and vegtibles... it was just simple questioning one of the main sources of information here on Avalon....

question everything... right?

doodah 11-13-2008 06:08 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
We have the teeth of an OMNIVORE, meaning we are designed to eat everything. We have the tearing teeth of meat eaters, as well as the grinding teeth of plant eaters. We can choose, so let David Wilcock choose.

In the meantime, we absolutely do need to protest against our horrendous modern factory farming methods, as well as the development of terminator seeds and GM plants by Monsanto and others.

As someone said, if it's eating consciousness that we are worried about, let's all become breatharians and live off the light of the Sun. That would solve most of the world's problems right there, except maybe in Seattle. :original:

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 06:10 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 78908)
hahahaha.... kind of an oxymoron there.

Who gives a sh*t what meat we are eating... it is all nasty... the arguement is not about eating your fruits and vegtibles... it was just simple questioning one of the main sources of information here on Avalon....

question everything... right?

again orion morris stated beautifuly..........i may not be the best comunicator but iīm glad you understand my point.......

Hypnotize 11-13-2008 06:10 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
theres nothing wrong with eating animals, and it does not lower your vibration, it's completly natural, if it wasn't animals wouldn't eat other animals, it's called the food chain. if meat wasn't supposed to be eatin' it would be eatable and tasty and good for you. protioen is nessesary to build muscle. i love meat, i love vegetables too!

jaby 11-13-2008 06:10 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 78897)
For you to censor any view is counter productive...

Well, you don't seem to have any problem with trying to censor MY view?

And defend dis-respectful attacks on David Wilcock.

The tone of this thread was set by the thread-starter, not me.

But...hey....lets just chill out and listen to a song together....:original:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MJpyskHMwRs

(yes I know, I didn't 'turn the other cheek'...not my style.....:lol3:)

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-13-2008 06:12 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
since this has kinda slid into a meat eating thread i think ill post about me being mainly vegan(apart from accepting dairy food gifts/meals when visiting friends). i wondered about the possible feminising effects of soya?? its a complete protein and therefore it is not essential to eat animals but i sometimes think about what the effects of soya are.. been veggie since 2000 ... not been ill or had a cold ect since as long as i can remember early 2005 last i recall.. i will eat an animal if it gets rough and i have to kill it to eat it.. but i will not eat an animal i have no killed an butchered myself.. oh and i like some of wilcocks stuff.. sounds like he will be taking the chip and eating gmo ectect(obama supporter) he obv has other concerns :)

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-13-2008 06:14 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypnotize (Post 78912)
theres nothing wrong with eating animals, and it does not lower your vibration, it's completly natural, if it wasn't animals wouldn't eat other animals, it's called the food chain. if meat wasn't supposed to be eatin' it would be eatable and tasty and good for you. protioen is nessesary to build muscle. i love meat, i love vegetables too!

yeah i mean we are part of the food chain too and aliens like to eat us.. its gonna be weird not being on the top of the food chain again for a few years ... well maybe there was a point in the early dark age we are in that sabre tooth tigers were eating us too :tongue2:

Circlewerk 11-13-2008 06:14 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
I spent 11 years as a vegan.
That was 11 years ago.

The ability to detach from labels and beliefs has given me enormous energy.
The energy is as a result of letting go of a desire to be right and the idea that I have to do something in order to become something greater.

I arrived at psychological detachment and the profundity this state allows, through experiencing the contrast of it for a long enough period of time, that all of it, the "this vs.that" mind, became the biggest thing thwarting my ability to feel good, unconditionally.

I have found that appreciating contrast, and not attaching to any of it as truth, has proved most beneficial when it comes to co-existing.

jaby 11-13-2008 06:20 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar (Post 78906)
and jaby....i donīt understant why if you are soooooooooo offended you keep reading this thread........what ever happend to "i may not agree with what you say but i will defend your right to say it untill death ?"

I'm not offended......I just didn't/don't think your dis-respect should go unchallenged. You didn't just stick to the meat thing. You made over the top statements about David.

Where is the Love???? :original:

Orion Morris 11-13-2008 06:25 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
I never reported you to the mod's for stating your opinion....

That is little kid, tell your mommy, ****.....

And like I said before... If we are all one.. then their is no difference in us slamming Obama, or Bush... you cant argue that.... Go call for the censorship of the rest of these threads too... then we will see how far we get




Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 78913)
Well, you don't seem to have any problem with trying to censor MY view?

And defend dis-respectful attacks on David Wilcock.

The tone of this thread was set by the thread-starter, not me.

But...hey....lets just chill out and listen to a song together....:original:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MJpyskHMwRs

(yes I know, I didn't 'turn the other cheek'...not my style.....:lol3:)


Jack 11-13-2008 06:30 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Eating meat is simply a personal preference. Your mother eats it, your father eats it, and im pretty sure almost everyone you know has eaten it at some stage. It is a cultural phenomina.

Every single one of us here have personality traits that other people would recognise as 'wrong' or 'unaceptable'. The key here is tolerance.

If you have not noticed David Wilcock is quite a light chap. He needs to eat meat right now, where you and me could get by with just eating fruit. He follows a hectic schedule and is working non stop to bring information to me and you and everyone else. He does not need to do all the research he is doing and post it online for free. He does it out of a respect for his fellow people, and in return the least anyone can do is show him that same respect in return. And not be starting a pitifull argument over the fact that the guy is eating meat. So What.

We all have our 'flaws' , but everyone is perfect.

He's eating meat, not murdering and eating children.

Judge not lest ye be judged yourselves.


[edit] - I would also like to add that it is clear in the terms and conditions of joining Project Avalon that you agree to treat the Whistleblowers with respect. They have done us a great service in coming foreward with their information. Theres nothing that says you cannot discuss any of the whistleblowers, but as for discussing any members of this forum it is expected that you do so with a tone of respect.

Hypnotize 11-13-2008 06:42 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah (Post 78915)
yeah i mean we are part of the food chain too and aliens like to eat us.. its gonna be weird not being on the top of the food chain again for a few years ... well maybe there was a point in the early dark age we are in that sabre tooth tigers were eating us too :tongue2:

lol, not if I eat the aliens first! bwa ha ha ha!:naughty:

Elephant Man 11-13-2008 06:46 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
MacAlien, Burger with Extras (terrestrials) :lightsabre:

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 06:47 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 78929)
He does not need to do all the research he is doing and post it online for free. He does it out of a respect for his fellow people,



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oh really ?? how do you know ??? looks like that was true in the past but now ??? come on he loves the spot light..........did you listen to his last phone call on camelot ??? and all his talk on the four part interview about how he knows people in the illuminati and they all laugh at us ......have you heard of mind control ?? well david says it is hard to mind control people.....but it looks prety easy to me......maybe the dude has fallen prey to the wolves .....donīt know but i am questioning .......are you??? we can not just take it all as they spoon feed us.....

jaby 11-13-2008 06:48 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 78924)
I never reported you to the mod's for stating your opinion....

That is little kid, tell your mommy, ****.....

And like I said before... If we are all one.. then their is no difference in us slamming Obama, or Bush... you cant argue that.... Go call for the censorship of the rest of these threads too... then we will see how far we get

Would you have pressed the report button if someone had started a thread entitled...'poor little Orion Morris?' Or would THAT have been ok....?

(just in case no-one knows what we're having a tiff about....this thread was called 'poor little David Wilcock' before it was changed.)

And trying to 'punish' me by making out I'm some kind of censorship-freak is another tactic...

I obviously had a valid point....because the thread title was changed.

And for the record....that is only the third time in 2 years that I have pressed the report button on any forum. And all 3 times was in defence of someone else......but it's certainly got you going...in this thread....so why don't we just let it drop now? Or it could get BORING......:mfr_lol:

jaby 11-13-2008 06:57 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar (Post 78945)
and all his talk on the four part interview about how he knows people in the illuminati and they all laugh at us

Again...you are insinuating something that is designed to discredit David Wilcock. He didn't say HE laughed at us. He said THEY laugh at us.

They'd be having a good laugh at this thread anyway....an INSIDE attack!!
All parcelled up as 'free speech'....catch 22....clever.

jaby 11-13-2008 07:00 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 78929)
[edit] - I would also like to add that it is clear in the terms and conditions of joining Project Avalon that you agree to treat the Whistleblowers with respect. They have done us a great service in coming foreward with their information. Theres nothing that says you cannot discuss any of the whistleblowers, but as for discussing any members of this forum it is expected that you do so with a tone of respect.

Thankyou for that.....:thumb_yello:

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 07:03 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 78962)
Again...you are insinuating something that is designed to discredit David Wilcock. He didn't say HE laughed at us. He said THEY laugh at us.

They'd be having a good laugh at this thread anyway....an INSIDE attack!!
All parcelled up as 'free speech'....catch 22....clever.

stop pooping your panties , wipe your butt.....clean your eyes and ears......read my post again....then listen to the talks for your self.....what in the hell is he doing hanging out with the likes of people that quote laugh at us because we do not understand whats up on the planet ???

Orion Morris 11-13-2008 07:04 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Thought you said drop it?

I am not trying to punish you.... I just think that people should be able to have an arguement and different opinions without running off and telling the authority on them.... That is soooo lame




Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 78947)
Would you have pressed the report button if someone had started a thread entitled...'poor little Orion Morris?' Or would THAT have been ok....?

(just in case no-one knows what we're having a tiff about....this thread was called 'poor little David Wilcock' before it was changed.)

And trying to 'punish' me by making out I'm some kind of censorship-freak is another tactic...

I obviously had a valid point....because the thread title was changed.

And for the record....that is only the third time in 2 years that I have pressed the report button on any forum. And all 3 times was in defence of someone else......but it's certainly got you going...in this thread....so why don't we just let it drop now? Or it could get BORING......:mfr_lol:


Dantheman62 11-13-2008 07:07 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
What do we have our teeth for?, sucking down vegetable shakes, no, they are for chewing,grinding,chopping,gnawing,crunching,tearin g,hmmm did I miss any?, leave David Wilcock alone, who cares what anybody eats, and the thread was just fine the way it was too.Like me, Davids a big boy and I'm sure he wouldn't lose any sleep over it and has been called worse things than poor little DW.

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 07:11 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
oh and jaby.....i NEVER ever pushed a report button......in my life.... and no matter what you or anyone else could or would say about me i would NEVER REPORT THEM..... STOP POOPIN YOUR PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jaby 11-13-2008 07:19 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar (Post 78966)
stop pooping your panties , wipe your butt.....clean your eyes and ears......read my post again....then listen to the talks for your self.....what in the hell is he doing hanging out with the likes of people that quote laugh at us because we do not understand whats up on the planet ???

I've listened to the talks twice. A while back....and a couple of weeks ago.

I judge David Wilcock to be a very decent, down to earth man. Who is doing his level best to put information out into the public arena.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 78968)
Thought you said drop it?

I am not trying to punish you.... I just think that people should be able to have an arguement and different opinions without running off and telling the authority on them.... That is soooo lame

Drop going on about the report button thing.....THATS what I meant.
And to repeat...I must have had a point because the thread title was changed....and....the Mods are 'one of us' part of the 'team'...not the authorities......not the PTB.....lol.

jaby 11-13-2008 07:21 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar (Post 78974)
oh and jaby.....i NEVER ever pushed a report button......in my life.... and no matter what you or anyone else could or would say about me i would NEVER REPORT THEM..... STOP POOPIN YOUR PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down.......

ABHA 11-13-2008 08:06 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah (Post 78914)
since this has kinda slid into a meat eating thread i think ill post about me being mainly vegan(apart from accepting dairy food gifts/meals when visiting friends). i wondered about the possible feminising effects of soya?? its a complete protein and therefore it is not essential to eat animals but i sometimes think about what the effects of soya are.. been veggie since 2000 ... not been ill or had a cold ect since as long as i can remember early 2005 last i recall.. i will eat an animal if it gets rough and i have to kill it to eat it.. but i will not eat an animal i have no killed an butchered myself.. oh and i like some of wilcocks stuff.. sounds like he will be taking the chip and eating gmo ectect(obama supporter) he obv has other concerns :)

If your cautious about soya Pineal-pilot, here's a some reasons why you intuitively suspect it... :mfr_omg:

WWWHHHOOOOPPPSSS!! LOL, Here's the link:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ainst-soy.aspx

Rebel4Life 11-13-2008 08:08 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeker Mom (Post 78834)
David is a big supporter of Obama's. That bothers me a whole lot more than his eating meat to strengthen his body. :naughty:

oh So he is a supporter of Obama? That makes me realize even more how much of a fake he is tnx for telling me know. :smoke:

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 08:30 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
yep... that might be why he gives all or most of his info for free..... everyone knows that in politics itīs always two sides of the same coin.........lol

Jenny 11-13-2008 08:59 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/announcement.php?f=2


A friendly reminder.

jaby 11-13-2008 09:18 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life (Post 79016)
oh So he is a supporter of Obama? That makes me realize even more how much of a fake he is tnx for telling me know. :smoke:

Oh, really..........:original:

Are you saying that everyone who supported Obama is a fake?
Everyone who voted for him?


Martin Luther King Jr. 'I HAVE A DREAM' speech......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AItMg70kg (2:18)


Video about the assassination of Martin Luther King......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrjiQlewk8 (2:16)


President Elect...Barack Obama...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHYrKDNV50 (2:12)

777 The Great Work 11-13-2008 09:19 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
The first thing that takes place on the path to truth is to be able to seperate truth from error by using our intuiton. All info should be questioned. Its the light and not the light bearer thats important. Man has looked to other men long enough for answers and always end up feeling betrayed:wall::wall:

isotelesis 11-13-2008 09:19 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
In terms of diet, it should be tailored to the individual, not one solution works across the board. People's bodies react to food differently. In general you should eat for your health, not your "vibration", ultimately you'll send out better vibes if you live healthy. Some do not need meat at all, good for them, that doesn't make them more spiritual, although eating less meat and more vegetables is healthier. Hitler didn't smoke and was a vegetarian, apparently he lived into his 90s. It is about moderation and respecting animals, the way meat is produced these days is somewhat disturbing, but it is a convenient and efficient source of protein. Turkey is a good compromise, ostrich makes good burgers, salmon every once in a while, I tend to avoid animals with more complex nervous systems, although it depends on the circumstance, even how and why it was killed, buffalo can be a sacred food source to those in certain ecosystems, if time went backward, the animal would thank you for killing it so it could have life, unfortunately many do not respect them in death or life.

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 10:54 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 79090)
Oh, really..........:original:

Are you saying that everyone who supported Obama is a fake?
Everyone who voted for him?


Martin Luther King Jr. 'I HAVE A DREAM' speech......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AItMg70kg (2:18)


Video about the assassination of Martin Luther King......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrjiQlewk8 (2:16)


President Elect...Barack Obama...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHYrKDNV50 (2:12)

no i think what is being said is that if david was true he would not jump on any political band wagons because itīs not real...... they all work for the same side.....the side that wants you to be a sheep with your head down eyes and ears closed......gosh your trying to compair apples with oranges.......

jaby 11-13-2008 11:09 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar (Post 79170)
no i think what is being said is that if david was true he would not jump on any political band wagons because itīs not real...... they all work for the same side.....the side that wants you to be a sheep with your head down eyes and ears closed......gosh your trying to compair apples with oranges.......

Sooooooo you would rather no-one voted?

Are you suggesting that everyone who voted are SHEEP?

It's funny, but I thought your gripe with David was the meat thing but your remit seems to be expanding by the hour...... :original:

sunshineseastar 11-13-2008 11:19 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 79185)
Sooooooo you would rather no-one voted?

Are you suggesting that everyone who voted are SHEEP?

It's funny, but I thought your gripe with David was the meat thing but your remit seems to be expanding by the hour...... :original:

yes ....that is what i am suggesting......!!!!!! and my gripe with david is not just one reason.....there are several things that are off here......

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-13-2008 11:33 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
i quite like david wilcock as i quite like bill deagle.. both opposing ends of the spectrum so to speak.. i dont hang off their everyword, nor do i blindly take what enyone says for granted without at least a modicum of my own reasearch :) i shall look further into soya protein.. i mean if we all lived like native american peoples then id eat bufallo and bid the animal a safe passage into the spirit world as we took its life.. RESPECT however i cant justify eating meat.
1; factory farming
2;BGH about to be mandatory(codex sept 09)
3;poss cloned meat
4;karma(zero repsect for life due to factory methods)

nagualton 11-13-2008 11:41 PM

Re: david wilcock
 
sunshineseastar

You're just wasting your energy here. Jump out of this swamp. It's for the believers only. Although this is excellent forum if you want to stalk your own selfimportance, and later recapitulate it.

Orion Morris 11-13-2008 11:45 PM

Re: poor little david wilcock
 
Jaby you are pushing buttons...
You said to drop in like 5 hours ago....
Follow your own advice.....

I proved you wrong when I you accused sunshine of being a divider....
When you were the first one to divide and you chose the opposite side and you are still there arguing....
You are making redundant points and just discrediting yourself... just drop it...... you obvously have a crush on Mr. Wilcock and that is fine.... but some people think different... nothing you can do about that


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