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Jacqui,

They are the best at controlling you from going to church.

Steven A.

Atheism is a religion because it is a belief system. You are not immune. Atheists are actually the most religious people on the planet by virtue of sparseness. More than 80% of the planet believe in a god. It takes a lot of religion to believe we did not come from a creator/God. Just look at all this order. Takes a lot of religion to believe it all came from a big bang.

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Hi Kelphi,

a·the·ism (th-zm)
n.
1.
a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
b. The DOCTRINE that there is no God or gods.
2. Godlessness; immorality.


re·li·gion (r-ljn)
n.
1.
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

doc·trine (dktrn)
n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Archaic Something taught; a teaching.


Don't confuse religion with doctrine.

Best regards,

Steve

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Wow -- pretty-good points. After listening to, two or three of Zagami's interviews he certainly got my attention. He had all the answers +33 Level-masons. None of which I had a clue about. But his intenness on the Norway? thing shocked me a wee-bit further.

In answer to the OP's question "Who's the real god worshipped by high ranking masons" I'd say. "Lucifer"

RSF

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yes peer, you are right....
my father was a 33° mason (top of tops) and what i know of that brotherhood checks with your comment...
no religious group,but they like to call the great divinity : THE GRAND ARQUITECT OF THE UNIVERSE.

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When you are ready, the teacher appears...there is no need in justifying truth seekers or freethinkers....truth shall set you free....

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You have a point...

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Love your phrasing, I'll take the bait!

The 'Rich men of the world' and their footsoldiers, the Masons, appear to have 'stolen' and hidden the G-d that was written of in the Dead Sea scrolls.

Look at the prayers found along side the Christian scrolls and you'll see G-d appears to have been a 'She' in that period, then poof, the Words were rewritten and She became a He along with a few other changes.
(Not a single prayer of thanks could be found with a He; it was quite surprising indeed. Along with the missing name of Jesus. IMHO, the story of Christ was a metaphor with numerous true stories of those walking the walk, that were 'crucified'. )

According to research you do not get promoted if you're unwilling to 'spit' on your Bible, whatever it may be.

Also see the book that was awarded at the 14th Degree by Albert Pike and they appear to equate atheism with Luciferism. See also stories/movies on Bohemian Grove for support and also how high it goes.

Read Ted Gunderson/Svali and find out just how evil these *******s are leveraging children to gain power in various unbelievable, but apparently true ways.

I would not be so sure this was The "Real" G-d, but it does appear to be an power wielding entity of some sort that the Aztecs and others also worshipped via living human sacrifices.

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This question is for you Peer especially or anyone else that might know the answer. I am putting it out here as a question I am trying to search for an answer of

I have read or heard (via video) three times now that the god that the masonaries worship is simply god.

I heard that Lucifer is the real god. And their god is esus (or thats how it is pronounced anyhow) So who is right?

Did they switch the words up on all of us so we are actually worshipping the wrong person?

After all what do I know I know nothing of my past lifes.

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Compare a bishop to a combination of an Egyptian High Priest and a Pharoh and you'll figure out their garmets. Wow, sorry I haven't visited here for awhile.

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[QUOTE=Kelphi;76697]Jacqui,

They are the best at controlling you from going to church.

We really have to start studying and unraveling the English language. The word church derives from the greek goddess CIRCE. Circe was know to invite men into her camp and make them intoxicated with her wine and seduce them. This word was chosen based on the agenda of organized religion seducing man and causing him to seek outside of him self for the divine.

Circe is the woman in revelations with the golden cup that made mankind drunk with her religion.This is also where we get the word Circus and a circus it is.Circe is the Whore of Babylon. Don't take my word, seek it out for youself.

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Pardon me for asking, but if Jabulon is not the secret word then is there a secret word and if so why have one. Thank you.
"As above so below"

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I am going to give my opinion about Masons. I am a woman. My husband’s father has been a staunch Mason all his life. Early on, I realized that Masons was ALL about Men, and would not allow a woman to be a Mason. Please, don’t anyone try to convince me that women can be in Eastern Star instead (which allows both men and women to join.)

This flat out discrimination is repugnant to me. And I continue to be vocal and tell any Mason what I think of their discriminatory fellowship anytime it’s necessary. Yep, my father-in-law heard my opinion many times.

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Those who are not masons have no basis, but hearsay, to condemn their organization. Unless you are a part of an activity or organization, then you do not know any truths thereof. If you were born in the USA or Europe, then, believe it or not, your ancestors were masons, somewhere along the line. The masonic order began as a trade group to protect those in the building trades. A trade union, if you will, with normal union members Most of you have bricklayers, stone masons, ect. for ancestry trades.

I am appalled by the number of people on this forum that swear whatever negative book they read or negative interview they see is the gospel. As long as it is portraying something bad about someone or something then it is considered truth . Perhaps you do not realize that by focusing on how bad everyone is that you are giving more power to evil than to good. This is called worshipping evil. Think about it. If you are a bible believer, then you should not have to worry about evil because God is all powerful. If you do not believe the bible as truth then you should be way beyond hate by this time.

You all are so into ascension [ I call it finally learning to graduate], but you still hang on to the old paradigms of hate and pointing fingers at others. This is elitism at best. "I am better than you" mindset. This is as old as civilization itself. There are those who are more positive in their approach to life and those who are opposite in their approach to life. Notice, I do not say negative because it is irrelevant and relative. What is negative to one may be new and positve to another. Have you ever been smothered and styfled by a "positve" person thinking they are the practicing the truth? This is why postive and negative is relative to the sender and receiver.

The law of acceptance, means just that. Accept that those amongst you are different, not evil. All things are the creator, both sides brought to balance. This is why you are here; to learn this simple fact and to achieve balance and become within the one.

Alexandra

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In the Vatican there is a huge golden sphere and I think that is the real "force" that they seek knowledge of and revere. It seems to be a representation of the prime mover unmoved.

Of course it could be that they are gods unto themselves, lol.

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Alexandra, I agree with you, thank you for the correction. The best leaders are the ones who can see all viewpoints involved without dramatic reactivity and getting pulled into the game.

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They Worship the god (god's) who gave Thutmose's-III the 10-COMANDMENTS.
Now, figure that one out if you can.

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Hi Peer,
Thank you for bringing some education into this. It is very much appreciated.

:original:

love & peace

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This is an outright falacy. The only god they believe in is the one they worship outside of the masons. This is not a religion. The masons is an age old fraternity. People of all faiths are welcome. Religion is not discussed, practiced, or even mentioned. The only belief you must have is a belief in the Superior higher power of your choice, e.g. Jehovah, God, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Adonai, The Creator, ect.

I suggest that perhaps it would be a good thing to investigate properly any subject on which you intend to comment. A good start would be from a reliable and not a sensational yellow journalistic source.

Attitudes, such as yours, is what causes so much dissention on this planet. Uninformed sources making false accusations against innocent parties. Did you know that when you do this that this breaks one of the ten commandments that you so highly treasure? "Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Alexandra:original:

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The pharaoh Thutmoses-III where MOSES.
And Who where the Hebrews? They were the BUILDERS of ancient Egypt.

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Here's a few more for you.

Who is the "GUARDIAN OF THE TRUE FAITH".

Who is the Free-Masons "SUPREME PATRON".

British isles, B' RITH-ISH.

And one more thing, calling a Hebrew Jew is like calling a BUILDER a JEWELLER.

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Here's another one for you.

B'RITH=COVENANT.
Covenant, meaning a solemn contract, oath, or bond, is the customary word used to translate the Hebrew word berith (ברית, Tiberian Hebrew bərîṯ, Standard Hebrew bərit) as it is used in the Hebrew Bible, thus it is important to all Abrahamic religions. The equivalent word in the Septuagint and the New Testament is diatheke, see also Strong's G1242.

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If there ever will be a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT it's main CAPITOL will NOT lay in Israel. The main capitol will be LONDON, as it has been sins the fall of the Roman Empire. And for GOOD REASON or should I say FOR (the) GOD'S REASON.
Haven't you wondered about all them CROP-CIRCELS,hey

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And on a final note, the Masons real name is THE GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD.

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Well, I am so sorry, I didn"t realize that you were such a scholar of U-Tube University.

Are You Egyptian?
Are You Hebrew?
Are You a Mason?
Are You an adept of the Great White Brotherhood?
Are you a researcher of any renowned legitimate books of history?
Are you a spiritual person who is trying to learn and grow?
Do you believe that anyone is right other that you?

I need much more than u-tube as an answer.

None of the information you have presented makes any sense. You make statements and do not support them with bonified text.
:original:Alexandra

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[QUOTE=777 The Great Work;86366]:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

Perhaps we do not even have to become a Mason or go to Church to become a 33rd degree highest ranking initiate!

http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/en/default.asp

Beatles anyone!

It's just entertainment!:nono:

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Can someone sum up why masons are evil? Learning about all this Mason stuff sure is confusing.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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From the top.
1. No I'm not, I'm Swedish
2. Yes I am. (belive it or not but we are all Hebrew)
3. No but I am a postulant to A.M.O.R.C.
4. If I get initiated in to A.M.O.R.C. I will be part of the Brotherhood.
5. I read books if you can call that reasearch.
6. Yeas I am.
7. If someone are right, they are right , and if someone are wrong, they are wrong. It's as simple as that.

And the Masons are NOT evil.

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Ahh, of course Lucifer, just read the REAL "morals & Dogma" by Albert Pike, there's shows it clearly.

That's because the jesuits infiltrated every organization ho shows up and in the higher levels are allways luciferians.

The jesuits are ehhmm, let's put this way, the right hand of the eye.

Madame Blavasky was a female mason to and she created teosophy who are the bases of the New Age movement who is the "hierarchy" to the masses, and that means the "luciferic ancient doctrine" to everyone.

Let's see a cuple of quotes from her:

"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos..the Serpent, the Savior." The Secret Doctrine' by Helen Petrovna Blavatsky on pages 171, 225, 255, (Vol. 11)

"It is Satan who is God of our planet and the only God." pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 233, (VI)

Cheers

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Hi KathyT,
that was exactly why I left: The discrimination part.
Not because the intentions are bad.

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Thank you Debbie.

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Do not mistake the A.M.O.R.C. for masonry my friend.

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No Jabulon is not the secret word.
What use would the word be to you if you don't have the other marks that go with it?
Then why should I tell you?

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No I am not mistaking A.M.O.R.C. for masonry, But A.M.O.R.C. is part of the GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD (and white have nothing to do with skin colour).

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For you I hope reality will meet your expectations.

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Peer, the main reason for me to become a postulant to A.M.O.R.C. was the Ancient Mystical and Esoteric teaching which is something that is not so predominant in the Free-Masons if I'm not mistaken, also curiosity was a reason. In this short time I have come to understand that the Masons purpose of existence is NOT evil.
I do know that some of the members are pompous A**HOLES but that doesn't make them evil does it.

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Hai GTF, it is always good to go and find the old writings and see what they bring.
But as I stated before: Masons do not worship any god and that is why all men of all religion can unite as Free Masons.
The bible is one of the attributes yes but if one member is a Muslim and another member is a Mormon you will find beside the bible also the quoran and the book of mormon because they do not contain the truth as many say but wisdom and they are used as a symbol of that.

The supreme being is addressed to as the High Architect of the Universe but still there is no worshiping.
Every lodge is autonome as is every mason and the task of every mason is to individually look for the truth, no more, no less.
Doing so you could consider yourself a mason....:welcomeani:

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OK peer I meet you half way and say this.
The foundation of Masonry are the TEN-COMMANDMENTS given to thutMOSES-III by the GOD'S (plural/ET) who ewer they may be.
If I'm not mistaken the Commandments are the foundation of many religions.
thutMOSES-III were also the founder of the BROTHERHOOD.

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From what I can tell after reading some of the maze of stuff out there, re who's the real god worshipped by high ranking masons, I suggest above the 31st degree -- Satan.
Frankly, the Mason/Illuminati area has me more perplexed than the UFO problem? Where the truth lies, I'm not sure?, but keep an open mind that all is not what it seems.

RSF

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Do you think the eternal creator of all gives a damn how and by what name, or sex he is refered to?

Do you think that because someone disguises not-God as God, that my energies are lent to this creation? Does it matter since it won't include my intent?

Do you think a name, a rock, a crystal, a splotch of paint on a wall in some particular shape, carries some innate power/intent other than what you invest in it?

Just how do you design a not-God so no one can tell, then redirect their energies, without their intelligent intent, to some other purpose? How do you then hijack their real intent? And then, how do you stop them from subsequently getting a "bigger God"?

"It should be self evident that if there is only oneness, then anything else that appears to exist, must have been made up. Furthermore it must have been made up for appeared to be a very damned good reason.

Thus instead of judging the world and everything in it, perhaps it would be more helpful for you to ask what value you saw in making it up in the first place. It may also be wise to ask yourself what would be a more appropriate response to it now."

God Is... even patience is re-defined.

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Who where the Hebrews?
They where the BUILDERS of ancient Egypt.
The BUILDING of all the temples of ancient Egypt where enormous projects that demanded an enormous amount of people and the project's spanned over very long periods of time.
More than three thousand years in total.
In effect that created an continuous influx of people from all over the world, and in some cases entire tribes came to Egypt, Egypt became a gigantic MELTINGPOT of all races and all religions.
The Hebrew (builders) race is a race with ALL races WITHIN.

Who were MOSES?
MOSES were actually the Pharaoh Thutmoses-III, A HEBREW.
When the God's (ET's) gave the Pharaoh ThutMOSES-III the Ten Commandments they were actually giving the Commandments to ALL PEOPLE of ALL RACES and ALL RELIGIONS.
When the God's (ET's) said "YOU ARE THE CHOOSEN PEOPLE" they were actually choosing ALL people.
Do you see the beauty in this.

WE ARE ALL HEBREW--WE ARE THE BUILDERS OF THIS WORLD.