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I think that with "the end of time" is meant: The end of the illusion called "time"
That means that there will exist no more time for the ones that see through the illusion we now call time. That of course will have immence consequences for this 3D world if the number of people becomes bigger and bigger reaching a critical point that, as we all know will start influencing and changing everything around it. Remember how Jazz changed the world and cars and flower-power. The ones seeing through the illusion will live in the NOW. The ones living in the now will see all timelines and will be able to live them if they so choose. I can think of a horrible scenario that you will be forced to live them all but I can't see anything to cause that (although that could be exactly what happens in the moment of your death). Speaking of timelines and Hillary Clinton: Who do you think the guy in the background is? http://members.home.nl/2eaccount/Hillary%20and%20me.jpg |
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Everyone is looking at the dreaded "Illuminati" or some insider leaking information about chemtrails,
their has been 3 things i have only stuck to and they are - massive storms,economic collapse,bioterrorism. I remember when Ike hit and i was reading about some stupid theory and it hit me... "christ im wasting my time on this ****" when the reality of the situation is lighting over head. October 7th i never believed, October 14th i never bought into, John Titor and his "time machine" i never chewed, but i must admit i did gnaw on some New Age concepts then got the hell out quick! hell i almost lost my sanity... Go do other things besides research, go enjoy yourself. |
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I believe that this is our thoughts and free will that can change the course of events. Positive thinking creates positive reality. I am not disappointed that all black scenarios haven't come true. We received so many warnings of the impending danger that we've managed to change sth to prevent calamities from occurring. And who knows, maybe a lot is thanks to us here.
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Well done superman, quite right, even if you resist this sort of information it does still go in somewhere. I have mentioned on other threads that I think there is a mis-understanding around around a few related issues, if folks really understood mass consciousness they would not want to be involved with it. This is an individual evolution and each person must look to themselves.
also and I know I wont be popular but there wont be any kind of ascension, in my opinion- that seems like such a superior look at what it is that we are supposed to be doing - dropping the ego which has caused all this, class, castes, greed, money etc... , the idea that you could chop down a living ancient forest (a giant living being to all intents and purposes) for profit. I need not continue to list the horrible things that humans have done to each other and to the planet for you to understand that it is basically perceived superiority and the quest for power (ego) that has created this mess the world is in. I'm not sure the timeline thing is as people feel it is at the moment, the timeline doesn't change. YOU change and you move. For some people it will feel like a big shift for others perhaps you may wake up in the morning and not notice. We are living in an extended moment set up for this possible shift to include as many as possible. Some people are ready for another type of experience and they will move and others who are still interested in the ego will remain on another path, but are not doomed either however it will be just more of the same. Its not sexy, its not dramatic and like a tv show, its about being aware and watching yourself to see how much you do actually work from ego, reacting instead of acting. There isnt going to be a close encounters moment in my opinion, why would they let us off this planet when the first thing someone will think of is how can we mine the moon or what can we TAKE FROM MARS TO SELL. NOPE not gonna work. There are so few people on the earth who are getting real universal information and the rest are just talking to dead people and they are just like us and some are good and some are not. take it easy |
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Aerion&Manwathiel: wise words!
A prophesy is not the thruth. Following prophesies is very dangerous as they tend to be self fulfilling. Although it is a troublesome thing that many of the leaders of the world seems to be living as they where fulfilling the Armageddon prophesies... Let's keep up the hope and love! Quote:
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There have been many valid points made on this thread :original:
One which I was just thinking about has just been mentioned by Harper in respect of 'reacting'. I think this is a really important point. When we read information its all too easy to see the drama of it, or that it in some other way resonates - or does not - with your worldview. It's easy to then 'react to it, rather than taking a step back and 'considering' it from a few angles. Even if it means stepping back from the worldview that you hold.:original: The '30-day' UK thing is a case in point. That would have been so easy to react to, but if you stopped, took a step back and then applied a little reasoning, the flaws became very apparent. |
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I for one am glad they were wrong on all accounts.
I am not going to put the blame solely on those two people though. It was plastered all over the net, anyplace you went. It makes me wonder if it was all a trick but inside I know that it wasn't, it was more like wishful hoping. As far as martial law being imposed and all of the above not happening, how about we just thank the 8 million Asians mafia members (or what ever they call themselfs) that Benjamin Fulford told us about back in July. I honestly feel that they made alot of the changes happened along with our alien friends and all of us here across the world. People just let them know we are not backing down to them. Well now that makes me sound tough but I am not, I was scared shift-less..... I read that over 1 million people were "misplaced" in Africa last week alone. How sad.... All of the wonderful energy applied to an Obama win now needs to be focused big time on African and Afganistan. Enough is Enough and I wish this had all ended yesterday Peace & Love to all Vickie |
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Thanks clark for starting this thread.
It is just the topic I was looking for. Obviously by the responses many others needed it also. After all of the predictions that did not come true, it makes you wonder if we as truth seekers are going down the wrong path. Yet as wrong as the predictions were, there is still chemtrails appearing over head.(again this morning) There is still HAARP in Alaska that is operating. There are still millions of plastic caskets in Georgia in that field. etc etc As wrong as they were, I still know somethin ain't right out there!!!! P.S. I agree that David Wilcock still seems to rise to the top.(not saying I agree 100% with everything he says) :sweatdrop: |
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Thanks for this thread! I've been following HPH (along with George Ure) and George Green for a few years. I now feel like I've been had!
I no longer want this doom and gloom to be my reality! I was getting a bit depressed with the HPH October 7th date prediction. But if you look back over the years, HPH and George Ure have been calling for a dire future for a long time. Just maybe, one day, the web-bots will get it right! HPH (Cliff) also consults with astrologers and I have more faith in them than HPH. No one needs a crystal ball (or web-bots) to tell you the economy is a disaster waiting to happen. I am prepped all I'm going to be. I'm going to make decisions based on my reality not on what someone else says. I'm going to enjoy life! peace |
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I agree with you that it is best to take some altitude regards the collective unconscious. My mother told me to always avoid groups :lol3:
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Thanks Clark!
I too go too caught up in the doom and gloom scenarios suggested by some "seers" on Camelot. Then I put the brakes on and came up for air, and now don't give them much credence. Sure the times ahead may be tough, but as Dannion Brinkley reminds us: we are awesome, powerful spiritual beings! A deeper understanding of metaphysics clearly shows how are minds shape reality - so let's stay with the light and shine on the dark. And trust in God. As to St. Clair I feel very confused by his glowing endorsement of Sarah Palin. She seems like such a shallow right wing caricature. I can't imagine how a person who doesn't know that Africa is a continent and what countries comprise North America (quoted on Fox) could ably run this nation. This makes me suspect all his pronouncements. And back to Dannion. An earlier thread wondered why folks like Dannion aren't given more space here. Having met him I feel he's the real deal. Some time back a thread to one of his videos was moved to off-topic. I tried to find out why from a mod. No answer. The beat goes on. |
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Absolutely clarkkent! You said it.
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Nothing!! so what's happened, still sitting here waiting!! The 14th of october came and went, hoped something would come about then the financial crash well that did happen and i think there is still more to come on that agenda we are far from out of the poo just yet. I just hoping my husbands and kids work will stay for the new year we are really watching our pennies at the moment. And xmas coming up another expence even if you get a little something it's still extra when you don't have much. People have been talking about relocating well i wouldn't be able to, even basic storing of food etc is just a no no at the moment. So i'm just sitting here biding my time and waiting for what ever comes around the corner.:winksmiley02: |
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It is all just distraction.
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[QUOTE=clarkkent;71663]"them" i meant...sorry typo.. [fixed - A..]
just stating the obvious folks and i know all the "alternate timlines" makes it difficult BUT the timeline I'M on all these people were pretty "off" in their predictions, --since this summer theres been a lot of alarmist doom-y predictions, and almost all of them were wrong or not as severe. the only thing that has come true is economic turmoil and any non conspiracy economist couldve told you the same over a year ago. st clair said mcpalin would win and boasted about his track record with predictions about bush's 2 terms and the non event of y2k he called all those, clearly he was wrong about this and only now is talking about this "plan B" and said he didnt predict it because he didnt want to give energy to it (because he didnt want any responsibility for an obama presidency--yet he gives plenty of energy to earth changes/disasters, moving to the mountains advice) deagle's and HPH's oct 7th hoedown was blown up out of proportion, yes financial poo went down, but not on the magnitude of a 9-11 disaster...we all have our jobs and theres no martial law. "hawkeye's" october coup, disaster roth's bringing america to its knees, dissidents being carted off in fema trucks blah blah blah...none of it happened. and then theres "looking glass" technology that showed hillary and the white house under water etc...obviously thats not happening as well. Talking about the prediction game...to give credence to Michael St. Clair's prediction about Sarah Palin's timeline as a future President in the United States a Canadian media channel coughed up the news she could be the new President in 2012! I wonder if the new clothes she bought for this U.S. Election/08 will have worn out by then...! (Thats why they call me a Cat!) __________________________________________________ _________ Anything that is not impossible, is mandatory!...Michio Kaku |
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Like most of you I was a little paranoid at the begining especially reading and watching a lot of the interviews in Project Camelot. Slowly but surely I moved out of the doom mentality and began to fight with myself to improve the quality of my life and to reach out to others even if they did not like me much. We all have a panic button, to panic without reason does not make any sense. You have to have hope for yourselves and your loved ones. Soon I realize we create our reality, you either choose to remain a paranoid lunatic or you move on using caution of course, look both ways before crossing the street and all that. The forum is changing no matter how scare we are about an uncertain future. My children represent the best part of me and I refuse to give up without a fight, no matter what happens I am going to enjoy my life, and will try to spread that joy to all four coners of the world. There's too much doom and gloom in it already.:thumb_yello:
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actually he was very concrete about her and the ol "maverick" both winning, and then her eventual takeover when he passed away. on his website he has whole sections devoted to the wonders of Palin and how she and Putin will solve problems together, he points out their nordic/celtic bloodlines (as he is celtic himself...funny how bloodline obsession is big with those "other" guys as well) when obama won he wrote it off as him not wanting to contribute to that timeline ...i guess you could say that everytime your wrong, "oh i didnt want to talk about that timeline..." he also switched up and said...well in 2012 she will be.... st clair is VERY bummed obama won and seemed to think someone from the religious right who didnt know dinosaurs werent here 4000 years ago, or what countries were in NAFTA, or that africa was a continent...he seemed to think someone with that intellectual prowess should lead the most powerful/dangerous country in the world. he's under the impression that iran and russia are working with the "good" ol Nordics andthe US i controlled by the greys. he's also implied he thinks david wilcock is a victim of montauk mind control and that dr steven greer who has worked tirelessly on UFO disclosure and now private sector free energy, is a victim of manipulation by greys. he's also stated we are now in the "john titor" timeline...google that name for more on that. anyhow, i certainly dont vibe with all that, if you think all that sounds groovy thats your choice. |
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These people though they do not even realize it are easily molded... You want spiritually and mentally preparation? Go out into a quiet forest... and just listen to the forest... go out after a thunderstorm and feel the energy in the air flow through you... You cannot find enlightenment in here unless you KNOW what you are seeking... there are so many false prophets these days that are generating only kaos and discontent... How often should these people be correct? 100% of the time :thumb_yello: If they are only correct 50% of the time they are no more insiders than anyone else here... If they are less than 50% right... they are just guessing... and if you look around the news its easy to 'guess' if you have a little intelligence If they are 80% correct.. well maybe they have something worth listening to.. Now how many have been over 50% correct over the last 10 years? Doomsayers are nothing new... "Beware the Ides of March" Now at least THAT guy had something :lol3: but it was so general that you could not use the info directly. Quote:
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for once im in agreement with you zorgon.
and just to show you folks, look what was written in 1977 Hello, my friends, this is Dr. Beter. Today is February 27, 1977, and this is my monthly AUDIO LETTER(R) No. 21. " For some time now I have been warning you of the dangers facing America. Now, time is fast running out. When Jimmy Carter was inaugurated President on January 20, 1977, a contingency plan concocted in 1963 was set in motion, and it is progressing very rapidly. The key to this particular plan was to be the placement of a completely puppetized president in office at a time of rapidly-mounting war threats. Under this plan, inadequate performance by the puppet presidents in the face of these dire threats is intended to enable a take-over of the country by Rockefeller-controlled military and CIA inner circles. In this manner the total dictatorship sought by the four Rockefeller Brothers is to be brought into being. We are now faced with the planned threat of NUCLEAR WAR ONE with the puppet president now on the scene in the person of Jimmy Carter. Carter continually spouts the Rockefeller line as he learned it from his participation in their TRILATERAL COMMISSION, but he has no real grasp at all of what he is involved in. Meanwhile, the CIA is also being readied for its appointed role. Nelson Rockefeller has been busy packing key positions in the CIA with his "new men"; and to facilitate the enlistment of required military support for the coming Dictatorship, a military man who is a member of the Rockefeller inner circle, Admiral Stansfield Turner, has been selected to head the CIA. That's why the earlier nomination of Ted Sorenson ran into a brick wall--he ran afoul of a game plan he didn't even know about. The plan calls for pre-war crisis measures to be used to condition Americans to accept the elaborate transformation of America into a total dictatorship, and this pre-war build-up is going on right now. Ultimately many millions of Americans are to be annihilated in a Soviet nuclear attack, which is to be carried out according to rules laid down in secret agreements negotiated by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. As I revealed in monthly AUDIO LETTER No. 12 for May 1976, this joint Rockefeller-Soviet war plan includes a super-secret "NUCLEAR SAFE ZONE" across the upper portion of the continental United States within which the Rockefellers and their intimates plan to ride out the war on Mount Desert and Bartlett Islands off the coast of Maine, right in the heart of the Nuclear Safe Zone. This Nuclear Safe Zone is merely the nuclear-age equivalent of the orders which were given to Allied Bombing Commands during World War II not to damage Rockefeller-owned strategic targets in Germany. These orders caused such huge important installations as the I. G. Farben Chemical plants to survive unscathed all the way through World War II, while other targets and even whole cities nearby were completely leveled.-- ---------------- fast forward 2008 see any similarities to now? ....... |
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It is a good thread
But as I move foreward, I think I will continue to look over my shoulder. Seems this week is calm but, need to prepare for the options and burn no bridges. |
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Thank God you posted this thread Clark Kent and had the guts to say what lots of people were thinking. I was so disappointed when I heard the short interview of Nov 5th with St Clair. It seems like people are actually disappointed that no earth shattering disasters have come to pass.
I have to admit that I did get caught up in this whole doomsday scenario until I thought my head would explode. But as October came and went and there were so many conflicting scenarios I realized my life and my future are what I make them. I thought that was really the point of taking in all this information – to break free and awaken to our true potential, to create a better world - to live beyond the illusion of the material world. You cannot do that while fixated on doom and gloom and fear - that only contributes to more fear and negativity and keeps you locked into the "game". TimeIsShort and Harper what you say is so right: Quote:
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I appreciate your thread Clarkkent,
We create our own reality here and now . From finding peace within we can find peace without. Being thrown chaos and fear is also an opportunity to test one's own integrity and balance and to reinforce our spiritual grounds. Preparation in Spirit is where the real challenge lies. There seems sufficient people around this earth that have found their hearts and work from there to allow this planet the safest course possible towards transition. Let's be gratefull to be on that time line. Kindness mudra |
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most of us are commenting on negativity yet i sence this whole string is just that.
sure everyone now can look and say that it's obvious that the economy is bad, but just remember that many of these people you talk about warned us a year or more in advance. i am not a palin supporter yet she was transplanted in an instant to the center stage and had no benefit of coaching. you don't just go to the presidential candidate routine without having the benefit of months/years of working with specialists on how to stand, smile, answer questions, stay away from certain topics, etc. if you people think that these candidates are unrehearsed then you are severly wrong. they are polished from years of practice. palin was thrusted into the hotseat. now that she has this national exposure, look for her to work on her weak points and when you see her next time, she will be totally polished, you wait and see. don't count her out in 2012. i, think everything has pretty much happened as described. most of you do not realize what has just happened to us. we were all pushed off the side of a cliff, and those of you that have not been directly affected are sitting there as the wind is blowing through your hair from the rapid desent of our plunging economy, and are complaining "is this all there is?" well just wait when we hit the rocks on the ground below. this is where i think we are right now, in the air in the middle of a big fall. Namaste' |
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I'm glad there was no "october surprise". I always had a feeling nothing would happen. I totally agreed with david wilckocks sentiments and he was right not to invest much in deagle. or the october 14th fiasco. Seriously i won't take any sort of doom prediction seriously until something actually happens.
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Hi Folks,
I think Clark raises some excelent points here about sources and predictions. I like St. Clair's take on astrology (I am a keen student of astrology myself). However, I was never convinced of his predictions regarding McCain and Palin. To be honest I am glad he has been proved wrong. I do not see Palin as enlightened despite having a large stellium of planets in Aquarius. Aquarius is not all good. It is a fixed sign and like all fixed signs (the others being Taurus, Leo and Scorpio) it can present as someone who is stuck in their ways and finds it difficult to change their outlook. To my mind you can not determine a persons worth merely by their astrological chart. One has to take into account genetics, culture and personal history as well, though all these areas should also be reflected in the birth chart to some degree. Each sign and planet (here including the Sun and Moon) can be interpreted on a variety of different levels, depending on where a given individual is at, in their life. Additionally, we each of us have free will. An astrological chart does not take this away from us. Sometimes a harmonic and problem free looking chart can actually lead to the individual taking for granted their inherant potential and, for that very reason, they do not bother to make the effort to fulfil that potential. I think astrologers should be very careful about making specific predictions. There are so many different ways in which a certain set of planetary alignments can manifest, whether that be for a person, group or nation. Having said that it is probably a little easier to make astrological predictions for larger group entities, such as nation states than it is for individual souls like you and I. I found St.Clair's recent short radio interview very poor. Why doesn't he just admit he got it wrong. For me this has undermined his credibility somewhat. As for Bill Deagle, well I was not convinced by his horrific predictions, especially after watching him in interview with Kerry and Bill. I think he is stating things as he sees them and that he is being as truthful as he can about his sources. However, I have grave doubts about the reliability of same. Also, he seems too tied into a biblical-type of prophecy, despite his claims of not presenting a religious view. So I had to take his predictions with a pinch of salt. The HPH predictions are less specific, so it may be that the process predicted did start in early October. We certainly are seeing the worst financial situation since 1929. This time, though it is much bigger and is world wide. So I keep an open mind on the HPH material. Dan Burish very definitely talks about changing timelines in his looking glass material. So maybe he is right that with Obama now elected as president, we are in a very differnt time line. So at the moment I am giving Burish the benefit of the doubt. Of course the timeline argument is a great excuse for any unfulfilled prophecy or prediction, so it is hard to know what the truth is really. David Wilcock certainly seems to support Burish's ideas. As Clark said, Wilcock does seem to have come out of it all with his credibility still intact, at least at the moment. He was certainly right about Obama winning th election. However, the real test for Wilcock will be whether Obama performs as Wilcock expects, by beginning to break away from the old way of doing things. I really have grave doubts that Obama will prove any better than his predecessors. However, nobody can be as bad as Bush, can they? With regard to Alex Collier, I have seen the videos. Whilst I do not think he is a liar or a fraud, I would say much the same for Collier as I would for any individual that is a channel (including Deagle and Wilcock), a contactee (including Billy Meier) or whatever (e.g. Michael St.Clair, who states he is neither a channel or a contactee). I ask this of all of them. How reliable is your source? Just because a source comes from etheric, extraterrestrial, extradimensional or afterlife domains, does not mean it is either reliable or telling us the truth. It may have its own agenda, which is not in the best interests of humanity. The sincere and honest channel or contactee is merely the instrument that the source uses to present its message. Add to this the potential distortions of the message through the messenger (e.g. the personal beliefs and bias of the channeller or contactee), then one can potentially find all sorts of confusing and contradictory information being presented. So it would certainly appear to be the case that none of Collier's Andromeda predictions, as clearly mentioned in his 1996/7 video, appear to have manifested. So again, we must question the accuracy and reliability of the source. I am sure that Collier himself is completly honest and sincere, though I do wonder how he explains the failure of those predictions to manidfest. Perhaps its that time line thing again? Anyway, the bottom line here for all of us is not to beleive everything we hear, regardless of its source. Practice discernment and discretion. Look within your heart for the truth, not outside yourself. That my take on things anyway. Best Wishes Truthseeker |
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I see it a little different than most, I guess...
I have been awake to most of this stuff for quite a while, yet I had not acted on it, on the physical side. With all the econ problems, the predictions flooding the web recently, I was motivated to get preparations finished for my family. So, if nothing happens, great...but if a situation arises, we are now much more physically prepared than before. No harm done. |
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You know you are right, often people are off the mark, because we are basically a fearful lot that have been under stress denied our true nature for thousands of years. Somewhere there is a baseline and we get the middle.
But lets look at this. We are debating the energy being put out there right? Just think about how many people do not even accept there is energy, they are completely oblivious, this is the nature of most of the population. And somehow they need to be hauled out of their reality, and maybe fear might do it, so as long as they don't take their life, if it causes a shift I support it, but you are on the mark, but what choice do we have. |
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The only person who has gotten anything right in regards to world affairs was the much maligned Leo Zagami, he was spot on about Burlesconi and Obama (He should know, he was/is illuminati right?).:wink2: Anyone with an ounce of nounce could have seen the economic crash, it was pretty much running the rumour mills way back at the beginning of 2007. I know there are issues with what has happened with Leo since the Project Camelot interview but perhaps people should pay more heed to what he says. Just a thought!
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Adding to what Truthseeker pointed out about Palin and astrology. Our charts are maps, they show potentials and pitfalls. Just because someone has a powerful chart doesn't mean they have the wisdom and experience to run a country.
And power often equates with sociopathic tendencies - they gravitate to top positions in business and politics. Maybe Ainslie MacLeod's "The Instruction" can illuminate this area. He talks about soul ages, young, old etc., and on his website suggests McCain/Palin are both level 5 souls (more conservative, wanting to rule, not govern), while Obama/Biden are both level 8 souls (older, more developed, more liberal). Younger souls tend to be more fear based and conservative he suggests. Very interesting! |
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When the Berlin Wall fell I predicted America would fall as well.
It really wasn't a prediction but more logical reasoning. There were two powers then: Russia and US and they were pushing against that wall, each one on his side. That costed so much money that one day one would have to give up. The first one to give up was a very wise man Michael Gorbatshov. He drew away the powers to keep up the Berlin Wall because he saw he needed the powers for his country and keeping up this insane wall took all their power away. So he withdrew and the wall fell but US could of course not invade Russia And what happens if you are pushing against something that suddenly draws back? Right you fall over! Basics of all martial arts. That is a law of nature and not even the USA can bend that law. The cold war was very important for the American economy you see and even keeping up the threats was enough to keep the war industry going. But when the enemy stops being the enemy where will you go with your tanks and your nukes? Well you can always go to "help" the people in Afghanistan against the russians, the communists, the reds... Finally the Russians realised that you cannot win a war in Afghanistan unless you ride camels instead of tanks and drew back to spend their energy on internal affairs. So the Mujahedin were left on their own, enough CIA-money and well CIA-trained, enough arms so the fundamentalist Mujahedin took over Afghanistan and could do whatever they wanted cause nobody cared: Their was no economic interest anymore. Another war finished. The war on drugs wasn't spectacular enough so something else had to be created. And that was "The Terrorist" Simple, you have to find yourself a new enemy but one who you were sure would not withdraw so you have to create an invisible enemy: "The Terrorist." Give him a beard and an AK47, call him Al Quaida and of you go. (Actually Al Quaida was the name of the computer-bookkeeping-program the CIA used during their connection with the Mujahedin who they supported with money and training in their fight against the Russians in Afghanistan.) Of course the enemy had to come from the east because that's where the oil is so there you want to walk around and be able to do what you want and take what you want. Set up an attack, create an enemy and of you go. Funny that it happened on 9/11 as it also is the alarmtelephonenumber. TOO COINCIDENTAL Even superficialy looking at the videos will show that it was a controlled demolition. WTC 7 even came down without being hit and that was on the news even BEFORE it happened. Nevertheless 3000 people were sacrifised but it would have been too obvious if the towers would have been totally empty wouldn't it. Nevertheless a lot of people believed it and gave that puppet on a string they called the president free hand to call out war against the newly created enemy. Only: If there is no real enemy you have to put up a smokecurtain so you can go on spending money on war, the biggest motor of the American economy. You simply finance smokescreen AND the fight against it. Meanwhile you invade a country you want your oil from and give as a reason that it has weapons of massdestruction although everybody knew that was not true but you need the oil. Alas, that was a mistake and US stuck its neck in a noose they can't get out without loss of face. But it costs too much to keep it up an America's debt meanwhile has grown so big that it can not be paid back anymore. Think about that: More money has been spent than there is.... Irony of the whole deal is that the ones that spent all that money are the same persons that collected that same money on the other side.... Because a country like US is big, the fall will go slow, slower than a small business going bankrupt but the fall is inevetable and will be heard much longer than the fall of the twintowers. In the meantime countries have been ruined, economies crashed, autonome peoples humiliated and thousands have died on both sides..... for a few dollars only.... As far as I can see there is only one solution and that is bringing these war criminals like the Rockefellers, the Bushes, the Rothschilds to justice like in the french revolution (that was also planned and financed by the Rothschilds) and let none of them escape. Take away their their houses and their immunity and make them do hard labour for the rest of their lives and may they die paupers or else it will start all over again right from the beginning. Take away their trillions and repair the done damage as good as possible. Face it, it's over. America cannot pay its debts unless real justice is being done. I think it's time for a new American dream, a global one, a happy one. |
Re: ST CLAIR, Deagle, HPH, looking glass, and "hawkeye" all of them "off"
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Re: ST CLAIR, Deagle, HPH, looking glass, and "hawkeye" all of them "off"
Am enjoying this thread, Clark! You are definitely correct when you point out that the various October predictions were completely and utterly wrong. I also got a huge laugh out of you mentioning David St. Clair's opinion that Steven Greer (of the Disclosure Project) has been somehow deluded/programmed/whatever by 'little negative gray aliens'. As a Disclosure Project volunteer, I know what a bunch of rubbish that assertion is. It just ties in with my (already very low) opinion of Mr. St. Clair and his 'intuitive' information.
I will also say again (as I have said elsewhere in a couple of your other threads) that I am very suspicious of 1) anyone who starts talking up their Celtic/Nordic/pure bloodlines (as if DNA matters at all in the realm of prediction-- a.k.a. wild conjecture), and 2) anyone who keeps trying to push the 'Nordic/white/human aliens are good and the Gray/runty/lizard-y aliens are bad' stereotype. Since I have heard David St. Clair do both, I am personally suspicious of him and his reasons for 'predicting things'. Something else that it is very helpful to be aware of with regard to any predictions made using Western-style astrology is that there is a major problem with said standard Western Astrology. Just google the term 'Sidereal Astrology' and you will see what I mean. Standard astrology is riddled with errors, one of which is the misunderstanding that the so-called 'fixed signs' of Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius somehow indicate 'fixed personality traits'. This is hogwash. The term 'fixed' was applied to them, because at one time in the past (at the time of ancient Egypt, to be precise), those four signs were the fixed positions of the equinoxes and solstices. They thus fixed the four seasons of the year in the 'heavenly calendar' of the Zodiac. During the Middle Ages, the Earth's precession had caused the Spring Equinox to 'slip' into Aries (which is where standard Western Astrology still says it is), and presently, it is in Pisces. Thus, the current fixed signs which house the equinoxes/solstices are as follows: Pisces-- Spring Equinox, Gemini-- Summer Solstice, Virgo-- Autumnal Equinox, and Sagittarius-- Winter Solstice. What all this means from a practical astrology perspective is that the Western Zodiac signs are one month off, and most people are actually the sign prior to the Zodiac sign they think they are. The bottom line is this-- if people are going to use astrology as a predictive mechanism, they need to get it right. The ancients who 'invented' the Zodiac were well aware of precession, and they knew that the seasons would 'slide' through the sky-calendar. That's what their predictive 'ages' or 'eons' are all about: in the Age of Taurus, the Spring Equinox and start of the calendar was in Taurus. We are currently still in the Age of Pisces, though we are nearing its end, when the Spring Equinox will slip into Aquarius. Personally, I think it would be a good idea for folks to get a good Vedic astrology program (which does take precession into account) and start doing their own predicting, rather than relying on folks who are casting charts that are based on stellar positions at the time of Geoffrey Chaucer and the Canterbury Tales. Peace, Martian Tigress |
Re: ST CLAIR, Deagle, HPH, looking glass, and "hawkeye" all of them "off"
I just noticed this thread....great job Clark
Yes...many of us saw the economic troubles coming.....my only concern is that it is not over, and it is going to get far, far worse. I hope I am wrong |
Re: ST CLAIR, Deagle, HPH, looking glass, and "hawkeye" all of them "off"
Forget time lines, the date has been set, there is a plan.
Wednsday and Thursday.:shocked: |
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