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Ampgod 11-05-2008 07:21 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Greenaway (Post 71148)
:lmfao: what a load of BS

stop scare mongering

I am sorry you feel this way.
I am no scare monger I assure you.
I am a fact monger!:thumb_yello:

I have brought this information here for people whom are proactive about there health and understand the many lies and deceptions that have been taught and embedded into us as a people.

PS
Will garlic kill you? No!
Is it the best choice for your body? No!

alice goes nuts.... 11-05-2008 09:13 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
anyway, i have always reacted badly to garlic, so it would be nice to read some more about this, and i know a lot of funguses takes up heavymetals in nature, some of them can be used for bringing **** out of the human body but some leavs the **** there, so i dont se why this can not be the case whith garlic, this is all chemistry anyway and after what i read garlic has afficency for mercury in the possitive way, but i for sure like to read the negative transference og mercury into the body!!! anyone????

Ali Quadir 11-05-2008 09:17 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Sorry dude but you were repeating rumors. Not stating facts. His representation of what an ECG device would measure is totally fabricated. He's failing to mention all the health benefits of garlic. And to top it off he's a bloody physicist...

I don't go to my dentist when I want my car fixed. I don't care if the man is a genius.

Now if you want to put it all into perspective it appears that garlic does have some psycho active effects. And it can kill the good bacteria in your gut as well as the bad ones. This means you should use it in moderation. Just like every other food you take.

But as poisons go, there are a lot quicker ways to destroy yourself. How about a glass of wine, a smoke or just kill yourself with some prolonged fears or paranoias... Hold that cell phone against your ear. Carry anything with a battery around.. Heck, take a stroll in the hamsterwheel of life...

Best medicine.... Enjoy yourself and do everything in moderation.

TranceAm 11-05-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith (Post 70963)
Trance am, for many the brain IS the minds eye and if your bio chemistry is screwed than you are not able to smile OR die happy, you are just happy to die..

S Word Smith:

"For many", who cares about for many? Keep listening to what the monkey of many has been indoctrinated with, to repeat ad nauseum to the many. so they identify and react as the many... Now, are you (The little observer in there, watching the screen right now, absorbing these words....... the monkey?
Thought so.

Another thread, with just more fear mongering of what ?could? happen.
Why not accept the inevitable that IS going to happen, with or without garlic breath at some moment in the future.. and just start living, like you love every aware second of it?

Noticing more member saying that it is anti-viral.. And the push to stop using anti-viral remedies in a time, where some are just waiting for some kind of flu to fly in & start its natural course....

Typically Orwellian, what is good for you, should be forbidden because it is 'bad' for you, and what is bad for you, because it could or surely would kill you, is allowed...

:beer:

Waterman 11-05-2008 11:14 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Garlic is fine.

I've sat across the table from Bob Beck, Dsc.. I'm not impressed!

The problem with the corollary isn't the garlic it is incorrectly applied logic.

However, as with anyting. If it is contaminated with heavy metals, especially mercury it will be dangerous to ingest.

swordsmith 11-05-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
ok trance am, you don't care about the many, I actually know what Im talking about re garlic, heavy metals and personal relations with individual people ( not the many) whose lives are an ongoing living hell from mercury redistribution through inappropriate chelation.... and sometimes that is caused by GARLIC. How nice for you that you don't have that problem.
I'm out of here, this thread epitomises for me the lack of really useful dialog going on here. Its just my opinion this/ my opinion that, someone calling SHEEP and fear of fear mongering.

Sometimes you have to get real.

Rocky_Shorz 11-05-2008 11:30 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbi (Post 71366)
Rocky: The mixture is nothing more than salt, water and white vinegar (distilled). However, if you've ever bought pickled garlic in the store you will note that most often times it is mushy. Mine are crisp and each clove is whole - they crunch when you bite into them. I add a little bit of alum to my brine. The pickled taste is mild, but still distinctly garlic. If you would like the recipe, just let me know.

Swanny: I am very aware of the permeation of garlic through the skin, etc. and you are correct. Thank you. However, I was referring "specifically" to the bad breath issue, not body odor.

Please pm the recipe, I'll give it a try...

being a connoisseur of Garlic, where is the best source?

We have Gilmore the Garlic town just south of the Bay area...

does the heavy metal content have to do with the location it is grown or the music the farmer plays?

Rocky_Shorz 11-05-2008 11:40 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith (Post 71670)
Sometimes you have to get real.

I guess it depends on who you listen to...

Quote:

Stop Eating Salt Water Based Food
Salt water fish absorb mercury from ocean water like a sponge. Therefore, if you have a mercury problem, you must stop consuming these foods completely. This includes shrimp, scallops, lobster, tuna, salmon and all things that live in the ocean.
Quote:

Garlic
This binds to mercury and helps remove it from the soft tissues, especially the colon. Some people take 3 tablets a day at meals for several months; however, if one has high levels of cysteine, the Garlic can hurt (due it's sulfites); therefore, one might consider favoring other approaches, unless they know the cysteine is ok. The liquid form of Garlic has proven to be affective at removing methyl-mercury from the liver with normal cysteine, and it is safer due to containing less sulfites.

TranceAm 11-06-2008 12:34 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith (Post 71670)
ok trance am, you don't care about the many, I actually know what Im talking about re garlic, heavy metals and personal relations with individual people ( not the many) whose lives are an ongoing living hell from mercury redistribution through inappropriate chelation.... and sometimes that is caused by GARLIC. How nice for you that you don't have that problem.

The only problem that I am aware of that I don't have, is that I DON"T fear the problem, >you< claim you know of that I "should" be afraid of.,,
Sorry my bad, can you try again to put THAT particular fear into me? Please..... :mfr_omg:

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith (Post 71670)
I'm out of here, this thread epitomises for me the lack of really useful dialog going on here. Its just my opinion this/ my opinion that, someone calling SHEEP and fear of fear mongering.

Sometimes you have to get real.

How "real" do you dare to get? Because the moment, it becomes real, (And with real here, I mean the real real thing that is on your mind, when you think about GARLIC and what evil things it all can do to you!), you claim lack of useful dialog add another bold claim, and jump right out of it. (Orwellian.) :tongue2:

What are you afraid of? That a 'real" dialog might cure you fears but <!?!maybe!?!> cost ya a couple of years/days/hours/minutes/secs that aren't guaranteed anyhow and in anyform anyway?

Hide from the light, it gives you skincancer.
There is so much wrong in this world at this moment, with the air, the water, the food, that things are full continue competing to kill you... And if one doens't get ya, then probably the other one will.. BUT GOD FORBID, you would choose yourself a way that makes you happy, and "might" kill you on the long term instead of the prophetised ones....

And we should be afraid of Garlic.. GET REAL!

PrettyinPink 11-06-2008 03:33 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Hi All,

I was taking Nutripathic courses this year from my natural doctor and I asked why the media was reporting that garlic was toxic. She said that garlic in it's pure form is just fine but when you eat dried garlic that has been dried in a kiln at 1200 degrees (like table salt) then it becomes toxic to the body. I have a biofeedback machine and have been tested on biofeedback machines for years and garlic has always been good for me. Of course anyone that does kineseology or biofeedback knows that everyone's body is different so it might be possible that some folks have an allergy to garlic (like I have allergies to onions). I hope this helps and thank you for "listening"

PiP:original:

whitecrow 11-06-2008 04:13 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Well. I've been eating garlic all my life. I've used it as medicine and food. I have never seen any reference in any of the natural health manuals to garlic toxicity. Until I see proof, I will keep eating it.

Ampgod 11-06-2008 04:22 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
I can see using it for medicinal use only if nothing better is available.

THE eXchanger 11-06-2008 04:27 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
if you ever have to go into areas with lots of bugs--
if you eat a lot of garlic prior to going, the bugs don't bite
so, is there anything that works for that,
better than garlic ???

so, is organic garlic still ok ???

i do love organic oil of oregano,
and, organic coconut oil is fabulous

love/susan
the eXchanger

Ampgod 11-06-2008 04:34 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 71971)
if you ever have to go into areas with lots of bugs--
if you eat a lot of garlic prior to going, the bugs don't bite
so, is there anything that works for that,
better than garlic ???

so, is organic garlic still ok ???

i do love organic oil of oregano,
and, organic coconut oil is fabulous

love/susan
the eXchanger

I guess that depends on the person.
No bug bites = killing massive brain cells .... it's a judgement call. :lmfao:
There must be a better way to ward off bugs.

feeler 11-06-2008 04:53 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TranceAm (Post 70959)
Who cares about the brain, if it can't cross the minds eye into your entity behind it?

At least you die smiling. :mfr_omg:

I guess, I will eat garlic and onion until I kick the bucket smliing. :mfr_lol:

Garlic can't be more dangerous to the brain than fluoride, which is known to lower one's IQ by 5 points. -feeler

Rocky_Shorz 11-06-2008 05:33 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
hmmmm

When Satan was kicked out of the Garden of Eden, where his left foot stepped sprung up garlic, and his right foot onions...

anyone eating either before prayers can not communicate with Allah...

The guy who published this article on toxins from Garlic is over at ATS user name Nexus.

So did he first get his info from studying religion and spun up a scientific sounding article to back it up?

I haven't found any other reliable sources to back up his claim.

Do you know why Christians eat a baked Ham on Christmas Day?

Because none of the other religions can...

I'll be stuffing my ham with Garlic this year...

DiVineEnvy 11-06-2008 05:34 AM

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I will continue to savor the noble garlic in all its delectable forms.

Allicin = medicine

Aglio E Olio: nothing better in your pasta.

~And, it keeps the vampires AWAY. No assistance needed from Buffy.

Flat-lining for a few minutes is not a biggy - it's like giving your brain a vacation.

Irving 11-06-2008 05:58 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Greenaway (Post 71148)
:lmfao: what a load of BS

stop scare mongering

I only eat garlic. I don't even drink water. Just garlic. I feel ***cing great.

Trishsgate 11-06-2008 09:04 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Rocky thanks for mentioning charcoal it is good to remove toxin's from the body. I too mix garlic with vinegar and refrigerate, we eat some during cold seasons and it helps, I will have to choose garlic over meds any day. Perhaps growing indoors will eliminate the mercury problem. Definitely more research is needed. I think all in moderation is a good consideration. We are all not the same our bodies are different, some can tolerate things while others cannot, use your own judgement.

Love & Peace
Trish

Humble Janitor 11-06-2008 09:18 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Love garlic. Can't imagine it being poisonous.

Doctor never suggested getting more of it to reduce cholesterol.

capreycorn 11-06-2008 10:51 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slOY4cSVfy8
:thumb_yello:

Swanny 11-06-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbi (Post 71366)
Rocky: The mixture is nothing more than salt, water and white vinegar (distilled). However, if you've ever bought pickled garlic in the store you will note that most often times it is mushy. Mine are crisp and each clove is whole - they crunch when you bite into them. I add a little bit of alum to my brine. The pickled taste is mild, but still distinctly garlic. If you would like the recipe, just let me know.

Swanny: I am very aware of the permeation of garlic through the skin, etc. and you are correct. Thank you. However, I was referring "specifically" to the bad breath issue, not body odor.

It goes everywhere, even into your lungs so it doesn't matter if you drink a bucket of mouth wash and eat a packet of mints, you will still have horrible breath, trust me I would know if you had eaten it from 6 foot away.

:original: The only cure for not smelling it on someone else is to eat it yourself, but I think it is a very anti-social thing to do so I avoid it whenever possible.

swordsmith 11-06-2008 10:58 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
If you feel fine eating garlic, there is your answer. If you have health issues and notice any bad effect, wouldn't you want to be informed? Discernment is the key, as usual, knee jerk reaction does nothing but kick someone in the pants (if thats what you are after).
I mistakenly said garlic chelates mercury, and on its own, it does not, it MOBILIZES it, which if not excreted, just redistributes it, mainly to the liver and possibly more dangerously to the brain.
If you have brain fog, especially after eating garlic or sulphurous foods, you may be experiencing die-off as these foods ( esp. garlic) are anti-fungal and anti parasitic. If you have candida in the first place, this is the body's way of protecting your gut from heavy metals. and sadly, it is almost impossible to get rid of candida if you have amalgam fillings unless you stick rigourously and continuously to the awful no-fun diet . Your body will keep on doing what it deems best to protect you.

Large sea fish have large livers with a higher accumulated level of mercury, that is why tuna is particularly bad.

Heres some good very basic info on garlic/sulphur, amino acids, ....
http://tuberose.com/Sulphur_and_Mercury.html

I would say garlic and onions are quite inportant to buy organic.

Ampgod 11-07-2008 08:34 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Let's not let Dr. Robert Beck's findings be for nothing.
He was very very smart , fought the FDA, and never claimed anything he could not back up with clinical data. So we can listen to peoples assumptions or trust a very smart researcher. You make the call. :)


I bought his devices and they do work as claimed!
So that stands for something.

bilderburger w/cheese 11-10-2008 08:34 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
ampgod, ive read the same garlic report you did. russell blaylock hasnt said anything about raw garlic in any of his newsletters, but he gave the thumbs up to aged garlic and to allicin, the garlic extract.

until i hear more, i will skip the garlic. taste is basically irrelevant to me anyway-- im a texture fan.

NorthernSanctuary 11-10-2008 08:55 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
There's a big international meditation group (Brahma Kumaris) that I went to that mentions garlic and onions is not good for you. I don't remember if it was only in it's uncooked state.

dayzero 11-10-2008 09:05 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Well, i don't know about brain toxic poison, but i used to eat ALOT of it, now i never eat it at all. Just went right off it.

When i used to eat it, the smell came out of my fingertips [cuticles].

I switched to onions. Any kinda Onions.

They both 'clean the blood' as far as i know.

Anyway, it's Olive Oil that's the real secret to the Med diet.
That and Harissa.

Olive oil has a similar effect as the anti-inflammatory -Ofen drugs. [ie Neurofen / Ibuprofen etc etc]

AndyH 11-10-2008 09:19 PM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Greenaway (Post 71148)
:lmfao: what a load of BS

stop scare mongering

Have to admit, a lot of the food scare is way OTT.
Get plenty of exercise and good clean water and eat just about anything natural in moderation but ensure you vary it.
It's as simple as that.
I wouldn't eat a mcdonalds burger everyday anymore than I'd eat garlic everyday.

What we do get exposed to on a regular basis is fluoride (of the wrong type) in mains water and mercury teeth fillings, vehicle fumes, food additives, the same type of food on a regular basis due to restricted supermarket choice, stress, boring moronic jobs, low pay, relentless advertisements, medicines for non-existent "diseases" and biased parroting media.

I think that just about sums it up lol.

Swanny 11-10-2008 09:47 PM

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I'm watching what I eat but am also thinking that maybe in 2012 it will all be over so am not going to go without something just because it MIGHT cause cancer or some other illness :original:
Life for today :thumb_yello:

bilderburger w/cheese 11-12-2008 12:17 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
three schools of thought:

1. ''this'' all ends, so eat what you like. no sense in manifesting more stress.
2. everything in moderation. low stress, and youll live as long as any healthy eater.
3. eat clean and organic to stick it to Big Biz, live long, and cleanse the pineal gland.

im a #3... thats the right path for me. seems that andy is a #2 and is a swanny is a #1.

Magamud 11-12-2008 12:26 AM

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Hey b w cheese you should publish those 3 schools of thought. You could use those for any type of subject with the NWO i suppose :mfr_lol:

Im for No#3 by the way. Maybe a poll would be appropo.

AndyH 11-12-2008 12:30 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bilderburger w/cheese (Post 77626)
three schools of thought:

1. ''this'' all ends, so eat what you like. no sense in manifesting more stress.
2. everything in moderation. low stress, and youll live as long as any healthy eater.
3. eat clean and organic to stick it to Big Biz, live long, and cleanse the pineal gland.

im a #3... thats the right path for me. seems that andy is a #2 and is a swanny is a #1.

Call me a 2.5 lol :D

Swanny 11-12-2008 09:33 AM

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You can't cheat death :death1:
When it's your turn to leave you out of here no matter what you've been eating :naughty:

Realview 11-16-2008 01:52 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
If you put your hands together, palms touching, left down, right up and then separate your palms keeping your fingers together you have the basic appearance of the chakra. Some foods strengthen the lower part of the chakra and draw energy down which supports some physical strength. Other foods strengthen the upper part and draw energy upwards facilitating spiritual strength. Onions and Garlic support the lower part of the chakra and the downward flow (aphrodisiac) tendency ie spiritual degraded/degenerating. Onion and Garlic are in most canned and prepared foods just as soy is in most foods today. Unfermented soy being a slow acting poison not to mention today in the US it is 80 genetically modified. So you see, just another element of the "Global conspiracy at work".

DoctorJac 11-16-2008 08:25 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
My latest anecdotal study shows that eating bacon and drinking beer work adequately to counteract the toxicity of garlic. :winksmiley02:

Mauree 11-27-2008 09:37 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
My Husband (75yr) developed systemic yeast infection. He was covered in a rash of a fungal type. This rash disapeared quite a lot when he stopped eating everything with sugar in! But it would flair up and he continued to lose weight. He lost a stone. His flesh was hanging off him. I just happened to see on the internet an article where people were testing rats with yeast infection with garlic, the yeast infection was gone within two days! That was good enough for me. I started my husband on one clove of garlic chopped taken with olive oil daily followed by eating a bunch of parsley. It worked thank goodness. Now my husband is free of candida and beginning to regain weight. He most certainly is not loosing his "marbles".

She-Ra 11-27-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Realview (Post 80746)
If you put your hands together, palms touching, left down, right up and then separate your palms keeping your fingers together you have the basic appearance of the chakra. Some foods strengthen the lower part of the chakra and draw energy down which supports some physical strength. Other foods strengthen the upper part and draw energy upwards facilitating spiritual strength. Onions and Garlic support the lower part of the chakra and the downward flow (aphrodisiac) tendency ie spiritual degraded/degenerating. Onion and Garlic are in most canned and prepared foods just as soy is in most foods today. Unfermented soy being a slow acting poison not to mention today in the US it is 80 genetically modified. So you see, just another element of the "Global conspiracy at work".

Yes exactly and basically:

In Hinduism (Sanatana Dharma and Jainism) there are three categories of food:

1.Raajasic food

2.Taamasic food

3.Saatvic food.

For those spiritually inclined, devoted to prayer, meditation, enlightenment, priests/esses etc they avoid food groups 2 and 3 such as garlic and onions as they 'block the higher channels' to enlightenment and 'God'.

That is not to say that the lower foods are bad for your body - but they are apparantly bad for the mind/soul. Groups 2 and 3 foods create and support 'negative energy' and feelings such as depression, lust, hatred etc and feed the body too sensually e.g. smell. It basically isn't conducive to pure mind and consciousnous hence during pujas, ceremonies and pious periods etc certain foods like mustard seeds are not eaten.

Those not on the spiritual path can eat them (but of course vegetarianism is a minimum requirement), they are not bad for the body in moderation and in medicine.

mntruthseeker 11-27-2008 08:00 PM

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I don't think this thread is "scare mongering" I find it very interesting as I do with all health issues. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it. Ampgod doesn't go around issuing warnings to scare people. He brings up topics to discuss.

Thanks I found the post very interesting and I will look into this as sometimes when I hear it comes from the government, I already have discredited it

:mad3:

taadev 12-02-2008 01:07 AM

Re: Garlic is a brain toxic poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 70976)
Ooooh I'm sad if this is correct... I get candida alot and garlic has been the only thing that gets rid of it for me... Ive tried everything for many years..
I read some where..that chemtrials were getting fungel growth in to actual blood stream and that fungus or yeast was now being thought of as the cause of cancer...by maveric dotors and cancer specialists.

Garlic is great at combating yeast growth in the blood? Oh dear! I have to say I feelno brain fog when I eat it... it just makes my breath reak...

I will try and reserch this some more... another good yeast buster is Bicarbonate of Soda... but deosn't taste so good in Garlic bread! :mfr_lol:
Antonia

Hello,
I too read the stuff about garlic some time ago and was disappointed as there are other positive things about this herb, but my brain cells are too important.

There were many issues I had that cleared up from eating fresh organic vegies. Stopped using fluoride EVERYWHERE, started using sea salt for deodorant and lots of fresh vegetables. Also, went on a heavy flax/yogurt and avoid red meat. I noticed my body only smelled bad when red meat was consumed. The red meat was hard to let go of but after a while it started tasting bad when eaten.

Also ALWAYS eat your salad last as there are critters in there called somatids and if we keep our ph chemistry neutral these are good for us. We kill them when we cook our food; perhaps this is why raw food diets can cure diabetes.

Add Milk Thistle to your diet also; it's cheap and is very good for your liver.

Anyway, my arthritic problems, back pains went way down, never get colds anymore even with sickies all around, more energy, more calmness. (Although meditation was also added and this was a biggee.)

Definitely used the hand-grenade approach to what goes in and ON my body and something there really worked.
Read the Gerson Therapy stuff and eat lots of fresh carrots and green apples, raw not cooked vegetables; organic of course.

Perhaps it will build up your immune system and positive bacteria to fight the fungal stuff.

Also use peroxide 50/50 with water to brush my teeth as the so-called evidence on fluoride is very weak and comes from the same source as that which claimed asbestos did not cause problems.

Good luck and BELIEVE you're body can take care of these issues on it's own, because it CAN. But only if you remove the load from other sources: chemicals, lots of good water, clean food and even bacterial from.

Sol Invictus 12-02-2008 01:39 AM

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Weird though that allicin derivitive from crush garlic is being tested as a highly effective cream based medication against MRSA within UK hospitals. In trials it has proven deadly against the MRSA 'bug', and will shortly be available I heard to all patients suffering from an infection.

My wife has a Chemistry back ground and qualifications; she has never heard of, nor can she visualise or structure this 'sulphone hydroxyl ion'.

Could the chemical composition be put up here for my wife to look at and discuss? I am also having a hard time finding any data in over 30 different science and chemistry data bases and / or research paper sources she has let me look at.

Weird... its like an information black hole.


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