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...im sure it was on a channel 5 documentary from the uk 'was daved icke right' i believe. if not there im sure his website will beable to give u the precise info as it was a while ago i heard him talking about it. its one of those things that i really wanted to know, how he got to know all this stuff and why he thought he was the next coming and it has just stuck in my head. i will have a look thru my vids to check which one. peace... KE |
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There are reptilians here, they would like to think they are in power. They do have a power base here but there are other groups here that dispute thier claim. This is a planet that many desire to have ownership over.
Do to the law that governs worlds on a higher level these groups can only do somuch in interfering with our progression. Sort of a Prim derective idea. It is more complex then this but in a nut shell that is it. The real factor in this is to see if we the humans of Earth will grow to govern ourselves in peace, and grow into higher energy beings in the near future. Well that is my 2cents... Peace be With you. |
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My view on the Draconians is that they are very dominent and operate with a different soul construct than humans and for you people living in denial..it's quite pathetic because there is so much evidence out there but people will find out sooner or later(probably in 2010)
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Could you drop a link to your album please as I have no idea were it maybe,Thanks. Zelong |
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Trying to help this Reptile theory,the only way is to say these Things look like an earth Reptile as they maybe from another planet than they may not be Cold Blooded. Other wise this is primary school science, too easy yes? :sweatdrop: Zelong. |
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Not all Reptiles are cold blooded. Thats a myth.
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I have to go to all is said here, but that which is written on page one, I can agree with.
my english is not so good, but I like to say something nevertheless. I have also read this and that and heard a lot of things in my life and this is my picture now (very short and poorly): Maybe a million years ago there was a fight between de dark-aliens and the light site. Lucifer was the first "son"of God and had a task to be the opposite of God or something that cause a move in the universe, an evolution if you will. Anyway, Lucifer thought (or had to) he was god and had to be the dark = "wrong" site. He want the whole universe to be his. So also us. Because the war between light and dark was endless, they made an agreement. The dark site could have us, if we allow oneself to be let astray. So when we (our bodies) were made (by peacful, intelligent creatures, maybe million years ago), the creatures of Lucifer (reptilians) began to manipulate our brains, so we could not remember who we where, where we came from and where we go to, if we die and also lost our ability to communicate with higher beings, our makers, our ancestors essentially. Becouse Earth is a place where everything may happen, a place of freewill, many alien races could interfere with us. (our bodies and DNA are created out of 22 different alien races, capabel to bear a human-light soul). The reason that the reptilians manipulated our DNA, was to let us forget our souls, our abilities, our ancestors and god, to became easy controllable slaves. Then they make religions for us (by the way, the Jesuits are behind allmost every religion, also the Islam): we had to worship a god outside of us and we must feel weak, helpless, guilty, etc. instead find god in ourself, the god of which we are part of, our ultimate, eternal source. Many reptilians went under ground because the climate on Earth is to cold and others left this planet. We where bussy with religions, wars (the brains they left us with, are constructed to have fear, survival/animal instincts, anger, etc). The reptilians learned us we needed money, wealth, etc., they set us against each other. Finaly, they made us being dependent on money, technique, computers. All by means of temptation, to controlle the whole world. And the leaders of the world have a special bloodline (reptilian?) that made them easily belief Lucifer is there god. The are very fond of sex, cruelty, money and power. I think, they are completely influenced by the reptilians, reptilian-possessed. Jesus and others came here to remeber us who we are and were we life for, what our purpose is, but many things in the Bible is manipulated, so we still have to belief that God is outside us, but Jesus told that we are gods and that we are able to do things He could and more. And now we are in the time we definitively must chose : this world we are prisoned in, the 3th dimension, with our feelings of separation, which give us fear and anger, this matrix of illusion. Or feeling united in the higher dimensions and beings of light and hapiness, without fear an anger. |
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This universe is only one of an infinite number of universes..Yet it is so big we can't even calculate it's size... we go off on tangents and try to theorize infinity... but the present Earth human brain only uses a tiney portion of the mass that is there. When our supposed "Junk DNA" begins to re-intwine we will start to fire up the dormant portions of our brains that we posses. Then we will start to comprehend the enormaty of it all as well as be aware and conscious in multi dimensions. There are and have been countless different bi-peded lifeforms as well as a multitude of others who's cultures have risen and fallen both on this world and on infinate others. The cosmos is teaming with life and creation and teaming with dimentions and different realities of the same energy vibration or life forms.. There are many different human forms as well as reptilian , Bird like, cat like and others. There are many versions of the reptillian vibration. Some so advanced and spirtiually and emotionally advanced they are functioning more on a light level. Some trapped in lower 4 d (due to familly squabbles and distortion of dimentional energy ) from way back long before this planet was made habitable. The Reptillians navagated the galaxy before Humans and in that semse some of the less evolved believe them selvs to be supreme beings and rulers of our worlds.. They play at the creation Game and they play at it with a differnt intent and desired outcome then we Earth humans would envisage for our selves. A long time ago a renegade faction came here, there were others here before them who lived in peace and were Ok with the human experament. The renegade faction...a sort of disgruntiled yet earnest in their own goals and beliefs( A sort of Galactic Al Qieda) had other ideas. This faction did then and still today believe that they have the divine right to impose their will and establish a tyranical dictatorship on this planet. There are humans with the same ideas and other species of ET who are here also and have different agenda's. To believe that we humans are the only manifestation of intelegent bi-ped life form in a cosmos that is infinite, is aragent if not delusional. We are our own masters in our hearts and when we simply stand firm in our energy and allow no space invasion or mental manipulation we can remain unaffected in our energy. To beleive that there is no manipulation game going on is also naive...look at our media and our advertising stratagies as well as the military Black ops? And they are all human stratagies of manipulatioin so imagine what a much more phsycic and technalogically advanced race is capable off? This faction odf renigade reptilians are seen as a bit lost by their more spritually advanced brother and sisiters and there is a small hope that by us Earth humas waking up to the reality and changing our vibrations and perceptions and our intent....that we may teach our reptilian, abusuve parents , a thing or two about compassion. We have been each others down fall (literally ) in the past but now its time to reconsile and grow up...all of us, them and us.... This is what the benevolent Reptiles are are hopeing for... it can work....
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Thanks Treckie
It's 2.22am I'm of to the fart sack,I will be reading your link tommorrow thanks again. Zelong. |
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I'd have to say your personal experiences either a)never happened, b)were drug induced, c)imagination or c)IT IS POSSIBLE that thoughts/images can be put in our head, the tehcnology is out there. Of course there are many other possiblities, but I do have to say that there are no reptilian aliens - interdimensional or physical or anything in between. (Not that it isn't a possible that there are something of the sort somewhere in this universe, but there is nothing here of that sort), and that there is some other explanation for your personal experiences. I don't doubt that it is possible to have had such experiences, but there always an alternative explanation - aliens are often used as an explanation for the unexplained, simply because we do not understand something does not mean it must be alien. And for the record, I am absolutely not a fan of Zbigniew. He is a monster. He is a great source of truth though, as being one of the "elite class", he has written much about the agenda in his books. I particularly reccommend Between Two Ages(specifically the chapter titled "The Technotronic Era"). He says there that there will be technologies used to control our minds, our moods, etc. |
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We have something on this planet that I am told is missing in this whole universe. :original: |
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Intriging - fancy giving us a clue to what that might be? Technological? Biological? Spiritual? Thanks Peace Iain |
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Can you say what that is k626?
Kind regards. EDIT - posted as the above poster did. |
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The naming of things is not my way.
140285 It can be within the sphere of spirituality, but it is also an accident. It is there between all numbers and words, for it is the balance between the two. Take care, K626 |
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Is it Thought? Creativity? Imagination? Can it be summed up by a word or is it a concept? If anyone here is correct will you confirm? Thanks Best Regards Iain :original: |
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I think the reptilian shapeshifter concept is mostly disinformation. Supposedly most "reptilians" do not mean us harm, but a militant group with a leader similar to "Lucifer". Nefarious entities are all around, not necessarily of the "saurian" extraction, which are generally quite noble. The forces of evil are more elemental, they indeed can shift their outwards appearance in the minds of those who perceive them, however their essential state is formless. It is an energy signature which should be avoided, which can even be exuded by cute animals, such as these woodland creatures.
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My guess is Icke's Reptilians are more of a metaphor for the globalist elite than a literal reality. Some claim Icke is actually talking about immigration into the UK. It's a crime in the UK to openly critique Muslims for example. 1984.
Anyway, the Globalist elite and Reptiles have many traits in common metaphorically. -Cold Blooded -Lack of emotion and empathy -Behavior is more focused on being ruthless and amoral. Especially true for large Reptiles such as Crocs and Komoto Dragons. |
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We have "emotions" = love. This is what we have, within our galaxy, that others are missing. :wub2: love & peace |
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I had written something related to reptile race and other stuffs in another thread! i'll quote it here:
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I wouldnt beleave what these so called psychics say they are mostly BS the few that are any good are few and far between. and if you were UI of a drug i wouldnt give much credit to what you were seeing the mind will play tricks on you everytime! |
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What exists between words and numbers also exists within us. There is a 'space' which exists between the physical body and one's 'energy bodies'. Within this space all sensations the human form is experiencing, from a cold shower to an orgasm, from a raging anger to a deep sense of peace and love can be experienced within this space/realm by other entities. To other entities this space is paradise/utopia/arcadia. Those humans who are angry inside provide the perfect utopia for those entities who require that environment to exist in. Those humans who are peaceful and loving provide the perfect utopia for entities who want to exist in a peaceful environment. There is only one level of energy within this space, so all who enter are on the same playing field. So humans have this unique space within their Being of which they know not and yet which other Entities find so enticing. Is this of which you speak? All the Best Ara |
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IT SEEMS THAT YOU DIVED INTO MY MIND AND EXPRESSED EXACTLY MY PIONT OF VIEW... MY RESPECTS FOR YOU WARRIOR...:tease: I WOULD ADD THAT THE REPTILIAN-HUMAN CONFLICT IS PART OF THE UNIVERSAL GAME CALLED : POLARITY INTEGRATION ...AND IT IS BEING PLAYED FOR US IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ASCENCION TO 5D AND EVEN HIGHER DIMENSIONS... |
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Intriging - fancy giving us a clue to what that might be?
Technological? Biological? Spiritual? (Quote) Maybe this helps as an answer. The formation of the earth as we know it, this infinitesimal point in the immense universe, was made precisely in order to concentrate the effort of transformation upon one point; it is like a symbolic point created in the universe to make it possible, while working directly upon one point, to radiate it over the entire universe. If we want to make the problem a little more comprehensible, it is enough to limit ourselves to the creation and the history of the earth, for it is a good symbol of universal history. From the astronomical point of view the earth is nothing, it is a very small accident. From the spiritual point of view, it is a symbolic willed formation. And as I have already said, it is only upon earth that this Presence is found, this direct contact with the supreme Origin, this presence of the divine Consciousness hidden in all things. The other worlds have been organised more or less hierarchically, if one may say so, but the earth has a special formation due to the direct intervention, without any intermediary, of the supreme Consciousness in the Inconscient. But is it true that there is no difference between solar matter and terrestrial matter?Were the sun and the other worlds of the solar system formed at the same time as the earth? Necessarily, everything was formed at the same time, the creation was simultaneous, with a special concentration of the Consciousness upon the earth. Have the beings of the otherworlds and planets a psychic being? No, it is a purely terrestrial phenomenon. Only, there is nothing against the idea that psychic beings may go to the other worlds if it so pleases them. There is no reason to think that one cannot, if one went to another planet, meet psychic beings; it is not impossible; but these would be psychic beings formed upon earth who have become free in their movement, going here and there at will for some reason or other. All knowledge in all traditions, from every part of the earth, says that the psychic formation is a terrestrial formation and that the growth of the psychic being is something that takes place upon earth. But once they are formed and free in their movement, they can go anywhere in the universe, they are not limited in their movement; but their formation and growth belong to the terrestrial life, for reasons of concentration. 24 March 1951 From: The Mother - Questions and Answers 1950-1951 |
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It creates us as we create it.
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Our phycic abilities are suppressed by the oppressers. To stop us realising our true abilities. If this were not the case however, would we naturally have these abilities from birth? Or are we awaiting activation? Peace Iain |
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I finally got round to watching the whole of the David Icke interview with Arizona Wilder -all three hours of it - which raulduke posted on this thread on 22nd Oct.
Whether you believe the subject matter or not, it's a fascinating interview and well worth the time, if you find you have three hours to spare in your busy world. About half an hour from the end, Arizona talks about the Diana death in the tunnel...how, why and what would have happened afterwards....a unique view i must say, but possible if there is any truth in the reptilian concept...... thanks for posting THAT vid. |
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For your second question, I guess that naturally things would be better without suppression. But every case is different. We don't know what is best, nor are we at all aware what are the most urgent lessons for our development. And certainly there are reasons for the allowance of negative influences, maybe we would be too easily satisfied with only minor results, but the hostile forces will always find the weak points. I do think however that they exaggerate their function and certainly have to be fought. |
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I just watched the Icke sessions with Credo Mutwa, amazing.....if you haven't seen the interviews, they are some of the most spell binding, magical story telling you can imagine...its like sitting in your front room and having a long lost granddad arrive and start weaving magical stories in front of your eyes...it reminds me of a book i read some years ago when i stayed in the Philippines called "When the Elephants Dance" by Tess Uriza Holthe, which told magical stories of love, survival and the supernatural from long ago in the history of the philippine islands, just like Credo Mutwa is now telling about Africa, a place and have travelled through many times...
Whether you care to believe the stories of extra planetary influence and alien beings living under the mountains of Zimbabwe, these interviews are truely wonderful and left me SO glad to have encountered such a great man, even though i have only had the privilege of listening to his magical stories on my lap top.... Wonderful..David Icke is a magnificent product of this earthly realm for bringing this into my front room... |
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David Icke Interview 20th Dec 2008
http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr8/jwr8_dec20aa.mp3 http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr8/jwr8_dec20bb.mp3 |
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To Doom.
Reptilian Aliens are real. And contrary to popular belief, they are not all what one would term "negative" or having solely their own agenda and interests at heart. There is plenty of variety. Although, i do not expect my saying they are real will alter your beliefs Doom and perhaps even after physically seeing one, you would still not believe. And that is okay. |
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There are some amaizing Christed beings who are reptilian.... Ra him self was a reptilian great military commander (yes Ra of the Law of one)... He changed evolved and was taught peace by great Sirian cat beings.... There is talk that the Three Orion Queens (Once fierce domminat cosmic conquistedors) have had a few hundred thousand years to evolve spiritually.. there is an amizing comming together of many entities and beings from all over the universe at the moment and the nasty reptilians and they do exist ,are no more nasty then the nasty humans who do thier biddings.. The human being has the capacity to feel such love yet still be responsible for some of the cruelist acts ever seen in this galaxy.... The nasty renegade reptillians have lost their ability to feel such extreme emotion or empathy so tell me who is the more dangerous or contrived being here?
Yet we humans have Enki 's reptilian mothers sacred Ptaa taal kundalini soul fire in our blood... that's why we are so special and powerfull... being the mongrels that we are 22 different alien blood DNA matrixes flow through our viens we are so important in this universal asscention that is about to take place...... "reptilians aren't just for Christmass, their for life" so take one home and love one today"...Joke.... but hey there are many who are on our side..... It's a pitty that the nasty guys got to our military... but don't trust all the blond Nordics either.... some of them aren't what thay seem... But I dismiss no one at this point.... my soul is ancient Orion in origin but has been on Earth a long time.... and we earthies if we stick together... are soverign amaizing beings even the unawakened.... The secret is that our souls are totally free and no one can control our soul unless we invite them to..... if we stick togther in pure love... we can change more then this planet.... Even Lucifer can be brought in to the love and out of dueality with enough loving intent on our part.... There is no seperation at the end ... The negitive ones work on mind controle and are advanced in this technolagy... Lets counter ballance this with heart controle... zap their dwindiling heart chakra energy with pure violet/pink/golden and white light.... Blue cosmic rays.... even shiney velvety black infused with unconditional love as black is absorbed and cant be reflected or diflected... send them dark colors so's they attach and resignate but resinate with such passion and love that their hearts begin to glow again and feel compasion.... then the brighter light will start to attach.... send this energy gently un intrusivly...as intrusive zapping is a negitave action .... try more of a sort of Knock Knock.... Hi ... do you fancy trying a bit of this my dear one?? They can always say **** off... but even the interaction brings the thought to thier head and the enrgy lifts.... Never fear them.... They are allaspects of the prime creator.... as loved and important as any of us.... Peace to you all Antonia |
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As I was listening today to the mid-2007 Coast-to-Coast radio show hosted by Rense with Credo Mutwa and David Icke (fascinating stuff), it is clear to me from what Credo was saying that these muti dimensional creatures do exist and obviously look very different from us when not in human form....i have never heard someone so powerful as Credo Mutwa.
But we're going to have to get used to "other forms" as we move form this planet to other galaxies or dimensions, so we've got to get past this "fear" of them.... much like you should not be prejudiced against someone of a different colour on this planet, we all have the same basic DNA, we were just raised differently. If we can't even accept the "look" of other humans how will we be able to accept the look of "other beings"? As Icke said at the end of the broadcast, if you think "fear", it will materialise (he was referring to whistleblowers who said they feared for thier lives after they gave witness statements)...Icke said these whistleblowers often did indeed subsequently die because they "manifested" this event - Icke's view was in response to a question from a listener who asked if he felt "fearful for his life" because of what he was doing. Big Dave emphatically said "no" - because he doesn't "think fear". Having said that, the first non-human i see should preferably be in a form which will relax me (!)...like happened to Jodie Foster in "Contact" Credo said the mass media is trying to soften us for the revalation that these reptilians exist..he said he had personally seen the reptilian from the star wars movie in africa and said it was SO precise in its colouring and appearance that someone MUST have actually known about this reptilian look.....his wife had pointed the star wars advertisement out to him in a paper saying "there's the reptilian we have seen in africa -its being used in star wars!" - and Mutwa was amazed. |
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I just want to know why we don't have any good pictures of the reptilians and shapeshifters. After all, the paparazzi are all over the place, and many people have either cam recorders or cell phone recorders and cameras.
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Hi there "Doom",
I feel that your thoughts are well informed and thought out. I in fact see a lot of truth in everything that you are saying and I respect it. The problem is I have seen a reptilian, and I can't go back to sleep on this one. I really wish I could, but I can't. Keep digging up the dirt, and I am encouraged that you are a part of this forum. It is through your type of discernment that reality breathes. Please understand however, that there are people out there who have had real experiences not based on television shows and that we are all here tying to find out what the heck happened to us. I have never seen the space station, but I feel pretty certain that one exists out there... Keep an open mind as well as a discerning one.:thumb_yello: Peace of Mind, Wormhole |
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