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most eastern religions are very compatible with the new ideologies coming to light in the last 30 years, even the alien viewpoint meshes well from the studies I have done, it is merely a translation of labels in my eyes, this can also be done with Christianity too if you remove the concepts of original sin, Christ being the "only" way, and obedience out of fear even when you take into account the composite character of Jesus concept, it is still an enlightening journey and I believe this is why that archetype has been used so much, even if there is some negative twists to it I haven't seen alot of Jewish representation here either, but I figure a fundamentalist Jew would not be here in the first place, and I suspect the same about Islamism I am still kinda shocked to see fundamentalist Christianity here and I would really like to read some positive ideas on how they mesh their beliefs with these conspiracy theories great thread Clark, thanks for starting it peace |
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Hi Clark, thanks for the question.
I was not raised in a religious home. My mother was protestant, my father was raised catholic, and they both wanted their children to "choose" their own. I considered myself an "atheist" while in my teens, but then I had to have "one of those" awakenings when I was not expecting it, in my early 20's. I awoke to the fact that we are all equal, there is no "difference" in us humans, no matter what religion we follow. I was to treat everyone, and everything on this planet, as I would like myself to be treated, with love and respect, compassion and tolerance. I also gained the forsight that most of our "sciences" where off base, and that I was to take all in, weigh the thoughts, and store only what felt right. I find no need to join any "religious" groups, as the giving starts within us, and should not be done just in a church setting. So I case you can say that I am a spiritually aware, from within. love & peace |
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You are correct with the information provided. Here are a few links about the term, "Christian." http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...christian.html http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/openhse/christian.html http://www.jesusfamilies.org/hot_topics/christian.htm Notice that Yahushua never called his followers "Christian" in the scriptures. He called them "Disciples," "Brethen," and even "Friend." The term "Christian" was always used by unbelievers or as I call them, "Pagans." Arcora was correct. I do not want to be labeled similar to the "Christian church" that follow pagan beliefs. Remember to separate yourself from all pagan worship and beliefs. Because if you claim to be a true believer, you MUST separate yourself and stay with the family of spiritual Israel (again, not the current corrupted, physical Israel). Here are some (there are many, many problems with the Christian church) terrible issues with the "Christians." 1. They observe pagan holidays and then call them "Christian" as though they are "holy" or something. Examples: Christmas, Easter, Valentine's Day, Thanksgiving Day, Halloween (yes, Christians follow this Pagan mess as well), ALL holidays are pagan. If you want to follow Yahweh properly, observe His Holy Days 7 times a year plus His weekly Sabbaths. 2. Holy Trinity - There is nothing "holy" about this doctrine. All trinities are of pagan origin. Do your research. The Holy Spirit is NOT a separate god or something. It's the Spirit of Yahweh. Father Yahweh is the ONLY ONE who begat a Son...his name is Yahushua who enforces the laws and commandments of our Father. Yes, Yahushua is our elder brother, master, high priest, and the sacrificial lamb. The Catholic Church worships a "Holy Trinity." Enough said. 3. Sunday Sabbath and Worship - Sunday is the first day of the week. The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. Check your Gregorian Calendar. Notice that it is called SUN-Day. Pagans dating back all the way to Egypt and Rome worship the Sun god Baal. This was introduced by the Catholic Church. Notice the trend? 4. "Christians" worship and praise the cross. It's an image...read your ten commandments again. Again, the Catholic Church worships images all over the place. And yes, they also introduced wearing and sanctifying the cross. 5. Greek names - Ok, this is the big one. Why do "Christians" use greek names of the son, and just call our Father, "God" and "Lord" ALL the time? Do you realize how important His name is? Do you want to be called "The Busboy" all your life, instead of by your name? Did you know that "Lord" means "Baal?" Well, there are MANY more doctrines that are just pagan in nature. I can go on for months. I belong to NO religious group. I am an Israelite who was grafted unto the Olive Tree of Israel by Father Yahweh, for He chose me and I chose Him afterwards. I was then sent to Yahushua to be trained and mentored by the ONLY and GREATEST Master of Heaven and Earth. Through Yahushua's sacrifice, I am now the Son of Yahweh AND part of the Royal Priesthood from the Kingdom of Yahweh. I am from one of the twelve tribes of Israel and sealed with my Father's name on my forehead forever and forever. My hands do the works of Yahweh, my heart yields ALL love to Him, and my mind bears the set-apart Name of Yahweh to fulfill His will on Earth. Finally, all interpretations of scripture during my studies are done by my Father's Spirit. The Bible is NOT for private interpretation. -Phillip |
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There are several main concepts that my thoughts about religion rest on: 1. Mankind has always had religion of some sort, therefore I conclude that it is a natural part of our makeup and something that we need. 2. The history of religion shows a continual reaching out by mankind for the Divine, but perhaps more importantly a continual reaching out for the hearts of man by the Divine Principle. 3. Established, organized religion always starts out full of rapturous enthusiasm and always degrades into politics, dogma and control. I was a Quaker for many years, and I am now officially a Bahá'í although I no longer practice any formal religion. Each time I entered into a study of the spiritual base of a religion, in the end I was left wanting more than that Faith alone could offer. All religions contain deceptions and seek to contain the human potential, and are therefore false teachings. All religions are also true, because there it is that we find the deepest and most abiding comforts and revelations concerning our origins and potential, and the meaning of our existence, if we have the eyes to see, the ears to hear. The questions I would ask my pastors have no answer. I would ask how it was that all mankind was doomed because of the action of one man, and how the answer to salvation could have been planted in the life of one obscure man. I would ask, if it's improper to take the Lord's name in vain, why can I say "God bless you" and not "God damn you?" In neither instance have we any control over what God does, so they are both in vain....right? Oh yes, they loved me in church. I finally realized that those who take God's name are those who call themselves by that name, whatever they call God...be they Christians, Buddhists or whatever, if their character does not match the name, they do so in vain. It is preposterous to believe that God can be held within a steeplehouse, or that he (she/they/it) is impressed by them in any way. It is equally mistaken to believe that because religion is corrupt it must be totally false. All religions hold truths that coincide with one another, and which are so radical they would completely alter the nature of human affairs, if only they were put into practice. This is why, as soon as a religion grows to the point that it becomes influential, it must be either eliminated or corrupted by politicians. The most fundamental truth, taught by every religion, is known to us as the Golden Rule: treat other folks the way you hope they'd treat you. Love people. Love God, whatever that word means to you. Love life. Don't worry about what you can't control. Use the gifts you have received for good. Be humble. That's the essence of religion, and there's no sense making it much more complicated than that. |
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What about the old question, if Yahweh is your version of the almighty god, then did he create evil? Opiate by Tool Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to guide you.. like me, like me, like me, like me If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me . Now don't you judge or question. You are broken now , but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow. Let me lay my holy hand upon you. My Gods will becomes me. When he speaks out, he speaks through me. He has needs like I do. We both want to rape you. |
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My problem was that I have barely even glanced at the NIV Bible. When it came out I kinda rolled my eyes and said to myself "another one?" I compared the passages from the NIV to the KJV and i feel I have missed the boat on this, but it matters not. You have answered my question friend with links and something for me to take a deeper look into when the urge arises. That is exactly what I asked for. I also agree with your fine points comparing modern Christianity with paganism and I am in total agreement. I am curious if you follow a combination of the Mosaic law with the laws of Abraham then? Kinda reminds me of the "World Wide Church of God" beliefs but there are a few others out there that do this as well. Don't get me wrong, I am not Christian either, but I believe I am far removed from your version of not being Christian. Its all good as there are infinite paths to that which is infinite. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions so thoroughly. good times peace PS - I got a really big kick out of the Ebonic Bible, I so wish I had bought when it came out because now I cant find it anywhere. Have been looking for a PDF of it for a long time. |
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First of all, Yahweh is His true name. It's just that a lot of people don't know His name through corruption of traditions, Bibles, and so forth. "God" is a position of power. Similar to when you call Him the almighty One or in Hebrew El Shaddai. Anyways to your question, NO, He did not create evil. In fact, evil is not even something you create. If you read the more corrupted Bibles (all Bibles are corrupted--some more than others, except for the original source, which hardly anybody has access to it), Isaiah 45:7 may sound like He created evil. But that verse only makes a comparison between light and darkness. You see, Yahweh is light and goodness. Evil is the lack of or the absence of Yahweh. The reason why this world is so "evil" and "corrupted" is because Elohim (the mighty one) is far from us spiritually (for those who do not seek him or lacks in faith). Evil is darkness. There is no light in it. There is nothing good about it. Because why? Because Yahweh is the primary source of goodness. When you do or think about something that are not good, you are doing evil. So what is good? Things that bring peace and love in the short and long term to people, the world, and the Kingdom of Heaven itself. There are many fundamentals of goodness most people don't grasp. And that is a whole different topic. So why do we call Satan and his minions evil? Because they do the opposite of light, which is what? Yahweh Himself. Satan is darkness. Yahweh is light. If you are a follower of darkness, you are doing evil. Period. Even further, Love is similar in our comparisons. Love is not something you grasp, touch, or feel; unless the result of love yields physical changes. Like evil, it's not something that was created. But if you perform evil deeds, then it will yield physical changes, which are bad consequences at this point. Yahweh is also love. Satan is evil. Not because Satan (Lucifer when he was an Angel) was created with evil in him. He morphed into the essence of evil after he started to stray away from Yahweh by rebellion. Remember again the absence of Yahweh is evil or darkness. Sin is part of evil, but not evil itself. -Phillip |
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You make sense...
I kind of believe that what your referring to as Yahweh is a word that we use for the condenced center of energy... oneness.. god... love... any word will do.... I was also wondering if you believe in judgement... like if I dont pray to god and I have premarital sex all the time am I going to hell? |
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Don't worry about it OrionM, there is no such place as hell.
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haha...
pretty sure its in jail or prison |
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at one time I had embraced the idea of hell as spiritual death
total separation from God as in poof, your soul has been repossessed due to non payment no more incarnations for you I now think that the spirit cannot die so hell has kinda lost it's meaning for me ecumenically speaking I am fond the Alex Collier way of explaining how evil is rewarded too |
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The Church of God and the Messianic Jews are close to following true doctrine. But they lack or add onto Yahweh's laws at certain points. You are not to add nor remove anything from the Word of Yahweh. So I consider them false as well, since they follow some of man's commandments. That reminds me, modern Judaism is also a false religion in case you guys are wondering. -Phillip |
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a reminder; i started this thread to see peoples backrounds and discussion about why that might lead them to Ufology and this forum.
lets not have this tilt towards telling people the "true" way of anything. your beliefs are true for you and no one else, if i wanted to preach my beliefs i would have started a thread about "my" truth, but i didnt because i dont need to. as long as someone a good person i could care less what they believed. |
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What modern christians don't highlight much is that Jesus made a lot of statements denouncing the false priesthood who had positioned themselves between the people and their 'God'. He called the pharisees and saducees "hypocrites", "blind leaders", "false prophets", "wolves in sheep's clothing" and "sons of the devil". He compared them to "whited sepulchers full of dead men's bones". Jesus' true message was that the key to salvation (vibrational self- elevation) is NOT the outer religion. The true key to self knowledge is that we enter the 'kingdom of God' which is the christ-consciousness or spiritual- Self. That is why Jesus said: "The 'kingdom of heaven' is within you" And... "Woe unto ye lawyers! For you have taken away the key of (self) knowledge; Ye entered not in yourselves, (into the inner kingdom) and those who were entering in, ye hindered". Also... "He that is in you (the spiritual- Self) Is greater than he that is in the world" (the lower-ego and those who embody it) The "kingdom" is within you because it is a state of consciousness. Jesus had realised his inner oneness with all life so he was well qualified to teach his disciples about this 'state of consciousness' and to teach the multitude by using the "kingdom of heaven" parable: "To the multitudes he spake not without a parable but to his disciples, he expounded all things" The inner-consciousness is the key that the 'lawyers' had taken away. Jesus fearlessly pointed that out to them and that is what got him killed. The false priesthood were terrified of losing their power over the people, who, if they could realise the inner-spirit as the source of truth, would not need the priesthood or any other external mediators. Nothing has really changed in that regard as the fundamentalist christian churches have degenerated into an exact replica of that phony old system that the pharisees and saducees used to rule and enslave the people. And other suspicious facsimilies are springing up around it, ie the 'crystal skulls', alien saviors in UFOs etc etc... If Jesus was in the grave he'd be rolling in it. But he's not. He is a spiritual adept (having self-realised the inner 'kingdom") and like others who've attained spiritual self-mastery he has transcended the cycle of karma and re-incarnation and ascended to his origin in spirit. The "shift" that everyone's talking about happens to individuals at different times as each overcomes the lower-ego and transcends the re-incarnational cyle. Jesus said: "Be of good cheer I have overcome the world" (the worldly consciousness of the lower-ego in myself) He is really saying: If I can overcome the world (by self-realisation of the Christ) then so can you (because the same Christ spirit is in you) |
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Sorry Clark i just saw your post above mine. I just thought it was important to properly represent Jesus' true message because so many people dismiss a distortion which is 180 degrees from the truth. Jesus is saying basically what you're saying in many of your posts.
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Actually the old testament is full of plurals for the word "God," but christian translations of the bible "corrected" that so you wouldn't know if you don't do research. And of course christians are forbidden from doing research in any other source than the bible. Secondly, the so called "God" of old testament is nothing but a sadistic, selfish, arrogant and vain warmonger. The whole thing is about discrimination, slavery and massacre. Chosen people, my ass. That god breaks all of his own commandments. He reminds me a lot of the NWO. And my third point, that's also quite hilarious - yes, there is only one god, however, these Elohim look a lot more like a bunch of aliens who love making humans their slaves. Nothing in common with the one God. |
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ctophil you make alot of sense and I agree with your arguements I love humanity and god and I try to do the right thing whenever I can However, how could a god made of pure goodness and love be judgemental... isnt that a sin? You are very fanatical... |
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I have explained to everybody the ways of Yahweh throughout this thread. Please read the "evil" post again until you understand what darkness means. I explained with a lot of metaphors in that post. You must think outside of the box to understand. Darkness is a metaphor, don't think too literally. The Bible is full of metaphors; so this is nothing new. -Phillip |
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You should look at Norvals post about the bible is about et's...
Do you not agree that it is kind of strange that all of our sacred texts say that god came from the sky.... Plus their are actually books that were excluded from the bible that explain god coming down in space ships... Of course the bible is full of metaphors... It is one big giant metaphor... Explain how is it that one person is born into a situation where they have no chance of ever coming in contact with gods rules is supposed to follow them... You still have not answered undetected's question about the scriptues dealing with slavery and massacre. |
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The Bible, Its about disclosure, not religion... I suggest you check it out |
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Nice post milk and honey.
I was also a raised catholic, with many christian friends. People with agendas about religion are not aware that they themselves are propagating their religion by posting about it. This is ok. They have the free will to do so. The forum allows much of this. The law of allowance gives them the ability to get there message out there. So Thats why so many are posting about their religion. But if you notice there are many posts in their threads but few individuals. Those of us that believe that the Christ energy was a descending energy who set out to show us how to believe in ourselves, do not feel insulted by those who post about religion. We cannot change the minds of those who are not ready to throw away all beliefs in everything but their own truth. Their own reality. |
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this thread was more or less a "lets see a show of hands, who's a christian" and then maybe a brief summary why they went from those beliefs to incorporating aliens and whatnot into it. i didnt set out for a religious debate because it will go on and on endlessly. everybody has interpreted christianity a bazillion different ways and will continue to do so. christianity has managed to incorporate every new scientific discovery and im sure aliens is just another example of that. i think its interesting- personally all of "jesus's" (or whomever you want to call him you can debate if he actually existed as a person , certainly theres evidence he didnt) but whatver the case the messages attributed to the man are good so i have no problem with that. christianity in particular has an "end times" scenario with a great battle between good and evil/light and dark and a lot of people are taking whats coming as an example of that and aliens/reptillians/dark entities and their "agenda" fit right into that (this is my summation and observation) i think the more interesting question is whether "civilzations" with organized religions and a hierarchical ruling order is a biologically inferior way of life compared to nomadic hunter gatherer tribes. certainly if atlantis and lemuria with their oh so advanced technology/spirituality wiped themselves out and we went back to tribal living and then now we wipe ourselves out with the exception of isolated tribes. we existed that way for hundreds of thousands of years before jesus, mohamed , buddha showed up. personally i like the phrase "god helps those who help themselves" and everything that implies. |
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Yah. The church has had kind of a "go with the flow" policy as of late.
Maybe they see that they don't have control over the masses like they used to. But being as how most of the world is still christian, I could be wrong. IMO, they will do whatever they can to incorporate information about such things, so they don't look wrong. So people don't ask questions. So people can say "see, I told it was in the bible already." |
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For you Clark one of my best friends born in Manchester England a funny little english guy wanted to follow the footsteps of Guatama Buddha, he travel to India and walk town to town barefoot with a back pack, few funds and a heart the sized of mount everest, he said he wanted to understand the heart of the Buddha. His story stuck with me, although I have never been to India or Tibet I have many friends there. I have travel but have not made it there yet. I study buddhism from my friend the English wacko. By the way he was white. Belief for the most part is regional, America the melting pot we have every religion under the sun. You know what I think is funny and positive, a white looking person attending the Black muslim mosque in Harlem. Is all in the mind how we perceive ourselves, and I guess the same can be said about religion.:thumb_yello:
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I was raised LDS, and lived it unfil a few years ago. Served a proseltizing mission at the age of 19, to Japan. I was an insider, but couldn't stand some of the hypocracy that goes on. I hear that is part of all churchs. The foundation of the Mormon religion looks like a ufo encounter. After that the vain imaginations of men took over. I must say that I still have friends inside the church and respect thier beliefs.
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I grew up in a spiritual, but ex-Scientology household of excommunicated Catholics... dabbled in Protestantism... got sick of the system, this paradigm etc etc and became a fundamentalist Muslim. Now I am an evil scum apostate.
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All I can say is when you search for understanding you look for it under every rock you can find until you find it within. Then you say to yourselve, I wonder why I travel so far when it was there in front of my eyes all the time. The company I work for is International , so they hire everybody and anybody qualify irredgarless if they come from the boonies, thank God for that, or did I mean Buddha, Iman, Ra. Oh you know what I mean. Is good to travel, or is it? mmmmm??? Maybe for leisure but not for work, it
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I haven't had time to read this thread through but I'm going to answer here. I am A Christian. In that I am saying I Believe that Yeshua ha Meshia. That is that Jesus Is the Messiah. I Laugh at how so many people equate being a Christian to being religious, automatically. I Do Not Use any of the established , so called, Christian symbols in my life as most symbols used in religions are of ancient Deity worship and decent. I believe that the bible clearly says that there were previous creations/gods on earth before Noah and there was a council of the gods and that Yahweh ruled as supreme God in the council of the gods.
I believe that Satan/Lucifer is a creation of the most high as were the Son's of God/gods. These Ben ha Elohim were here on earth and were called the Watchers in the book of Enoch and Enoch walked with them. That means he lived in their council as Adam walked with God. I believe that Satan is and was the greatest of all creations and was greatest in the creation and became very jealous when Yahweh interrupted his usual practice of overseeing the ongoing creation and decided that mankind would be of his own hands and making and would be a very great creation to be nurtured to become something of great importance throughout the creation. Greater even than all the previous creation including Satan. I believe that Enoch with the help of the Sons of God created the great pyramids of Giza and there is yet one more that has either been covered up by the PTB or is yet to be revealed. I believe that Satan went astray of Gods plan and was accusing all he could in the council to destroy Gods plan for Mankind(not humanity) He was the prosecutor in the council of God. All one has to do is read book of Job to see this. The Son's of God, whilst in the act of erecting the great pyramids were tempted by Satan to fall or take human form here on earth so as to take wives and destroy the DNA of the bloodline of the Messiah(the pre ordained solution to the corruption of mankind). When they fell as it says in the bible they were harshly judged by Yahweh and were given a certain amount of time to live so they would witness the destruction of their beloved off spring. These basta*d children were destined to never be allowed as spirits, after death to ascend to heaven but were forced to remain here on earth till judgment and are the demonic spirits that are at odds with the true and righteous believers. The Sons of God(not angels) Angels are messengers and warriors created for a specific purpose and servitude in heaven for Yahweh. I believe that the Sons of God/watchers were previous creations and originate from the twelve constellations or morning stars if you will, and were delegated as authorities on earth as gods to guide and lead Mankind to become great (for lack of a better term) ascended beings according to God's purpose. However, after the 200 fell and took wives they spoiled our DNA and taught mankind warfare, money, trade, metallurgy, astrological secrets and systems so as to help them serve them because as fallen gods they set themselves up as such and as they like to say "as above so below" they mimic the Father in heaven. Plus they had great giant sons that never stopped growing until put to death. These giants or Nephilim also known in later years as rephraim, needed much food and had not only devoured the entire resources of the earth but were devouring mankind and even each other and thats why God had a Flood. Noah was NOT free of Sin as religion would have you believe but was pure of pedigree to Adam. To step back a bit , the incident at Babylon was not because they were building a tower but because all the sons of God had come together to combine knowledge to build a portal so they could ascend back to the plane of existence they came from thats why God went down to them and confused their language and scattered them to the four corners of the earth. Thats why all over the earth you established religious centers and pyramids and astrological calenders or observatories if you will, for instance, Stonehenge. These observatories served as tools for many things but at the most basic , a tool for knowing when to plant and harvest. After all you many slaves working round the clock work shopping for the gods and their offspring trying to meet their ravenous dietary needs. Today if you study you will find Satan has taken many forms and so has his own son many times in history whether it be in the male or the female. Thats why this last President WILL be a FEMALE! The Zionists/luciferians must have a female Deity in place. Jesus is the only God that came down to us and taught to love our fellow man and to worship the father in heaven with love and not by sacrificing our children or by having sex in as many ways as possible as the sin god's did. Now many prophets have come and I cant say they weren't from the Heavenly Father but no matter what belief Satan has always managed to usurp that belief and in its place insert religion. The Heavenly Father is a God of Love and Yes he is wrathful because of the insurrection against his purpose and he is a God of Choice and of freedom of Choice. I urge any of you to find me any other god that is like that. Christianity was usurped by Cesar when he realized that the rule of force wasn't as fitting anymore as the rule by using the subtle control of religion was. So he became the pope and voilà you have the catholic religion and the basis of all Christianity today. I believe I am a chosen child of the Most high God and have had a great gift of discernment of truth versus other godly mush. I have always known since childhood that of all the religions I studied that the truth wasn't being put forth and remember even as child praying for truth and wisdom to come forth and abolish the lies of the Great Dragon. 2 years ago I had grown tired of my fleshly quest for self gratification and lust of the flesh and got on my knees and sought truth and wisdom once again and had a true Spiritual awakening. For 3 weeks I didn't leave home but spent about 18 hours a day on the computer researching and being led around by the nose by the Holy Spirit to the truth I have today and of the truth of Satan and the deep grasp/hold he has on present day earth and the literal matrix we live in. He showed me who's in control and how they work and many mysteries that had been hiding in plain site right before my eyes all my life, I just hadn't really gotten to the point where I had hit bottom and was ready for absolute commitment to God and to becoming an immortal Spirit in a container and not a container with a dead sleeping spirit that awoke from time to time just enough to keep me safe from the container and to give me clues that would one day lead me to to that point. I believe with all my heart that YES Jesus is the expression of the Heavenly Father in our earth and is unto himself a God ,the only true God come to save us from the fallen gods that have corrupted and ruled mankind since their fall. He is going to return in physical form but not till Satan has run his course and done all he can to destroy us completely. You see we are Job, all of us are. I could go on for hours but let me end with this. If anyone will get on their knees and press their face to the earth and seek the most high Creator of this universe and his truth and wisdom he will answer you. maybe not the way you want but he will answer and it takes dedication and steadfastness and after you begin to realize that there has been a great rebellion and we caught in the middle of it and that Satan is at the very center of it than you will start to see that Jesus is Messiah and true God we are suppose to worship and worshiping any other deity is just worshiping the creation and not the Creator. For those that claim Ascension or Divine gifts but are not in tune with the Most high they are being misled by the spirits of the Nephilim. I have visons, I have seen the destruction that is coming. I morn at night for all the lost sheeple that can't grasp they are slaves to the Beast and are being made to be lukewarm by religion and will be spit out when the time comes as Jesus foretold. We are in the last years of this earth, truly. I believe I have the answer to 2012. It is when Satan takes his seat in the temple and throws down the sacrifice and it will be at that time that all time will stop till we see the return of Yeshua as foretold in revelations. You see Satan is of the dark. Yahweh is of the light. We will be engulfed in the darkness or that which is of the opposite matter of the creation that we can perceive, when he comes to full power here. Jesus said, "I will return before this eon passes away" We are in the last eon of cycle of the astrological calender, the sign of Pisces. Thats why the only symbol for Christ I will even allow is the fish. Its the sign or eon of his appearance and return. Now as to one other thing. Hell. Hell is when those that workshop/worship the beast will be thrown into the pit with Satan for a thousand years where they will literally be, for lack of a better term his bitches till when he is released one last time and will destroyed and thrown into the lake of fire or the final absolute death where they will also be thrown. Al those that chose to serve the flesh and chase after the gods and deities of this earth, after death are also placed in the pit with him where he is right now, which is in the earth literally and are serving him now and the torment and torture of their souls is his energy source. Hell is NOT eternal. But, I sure don't want to go there even if for a few thousand years. Jesus is the truth, The God of Light not darkness and he is the way to escape whats coming. Thats what I believe. You don't have to be religous to know the God of Light just seek him on your face in earnest and he will reveal himself to you and your life will change forever unless you chose to go back to sleep and go back to your comfy little matrix which the great dragon has made here. Relationship with My heavenly papa and Love and the fruit of the Spirit is my way of life but it is not something I practice it's something that is natural in me and the eternal spirit being that I am. You just have to allow it to come forth and say no to the matrix and the lie that is this sewer we live in and stop worshipping it. I know its almost a book, so suit me :tongue2: God's Richest Blessings |
Re: CHRISTIANITY and avalon : a question from clark
paragraphs and spaces would make that a lot easier to read.
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