Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

By the way, the guy is a lawyer AND a politician. Every single debate or speech is carefully rehearsed and he portrays himself almost as a lawyer defending a case, whose intention is not actually to find the truth, but rather convince the jury that he is right and "win" it.

It is certainly effective, but it's not about honesty.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Thanks for your comments David, Sarah, and notkuroda.

It's nice to hear from others who are interested in seeing the positive possibilities on this planet.

It's become clear that many, perhaps most, users here are enthusiastic about nothing other than their own doom and gloom.

A man who was virtually unknown 2 years ago, who has endured greater scrutiny than perhaps any other earthling in history, who wants to help struggling middle-class Americans get jobs, who wants 47 million people to get the health care they deserve, who wants to help this country free itself from dependence on fossil fuels, save the environment and repair this world has been transformed by paranoia and intolerance into a man whose "agenda is killing off 95% of human beings in this world".

I cannot describe the departure from logic and reason occurring here. I am tempted to start a new poll asking how many psychoactive medications Avalon users ingest daily. Obviously, the xanax isn't strong enough anymore.

The funny part is this: Not a single person this entire thread has defended John McCain as a better choice. Not a single person has defended Ron Paul as a better choice. Or Cynthia McKinney. Or Ralph Nader. Or anyone.

The question then becomes why do people such as mntruthseeker, Anticomuna, and bluestix feel strongly enough to take the time to post their negative ideas and repeat entirely debunked lies about Obama? Is it simply inflexibility in their beliefs? Is there another agenda?

Why must we all not only be completely scared but also absolutely convinced the future will be terrible? I refuse to accept that. I have seen how Obama has empowered people in this country. And we are going to win.

Statements like:

"Obama's change is scarey and you have to realize this before you vote and go around saying differently"

and:

"Hitler had a 'high vibration' as well, just check the quantity of people that 'responded' to him."

say a lot more about the person writing them than they do about Obama.

I refuse to believe there is smoky room somewhere filled with evil men who "put in place" people like Obama and McCain. Obama was nominated because he has a gift connecting with people and because we are ready for a drastic change. We are tired of the Bush/Clinton royal families.

McCain was nominated because he was perceived as the most bipartisan and tolerant Republican. He got the most votes. This is the shifting direction of peoples perceptions. The far right-wingers that have been controlling this administration *hate* McCain, because he used to actually BE tolerant and bipartisan. He is quite different now.

If the smoky room were truly in charge, and could somehow rig the voting machines in every state nationwide, wouldn't it be Hillary vs. Giuliani or Romney? Why pick two people you obviously despise?

It's clear that there *are* a group of people we refer to as the Powers That Be. It's clear that the ET presence has been covered up for 60+ years, and that there are bankers and religions who are greedier and more power hungry than the rest of us.

But it's just business, that's all. It's all about money, and capitalism is dying. It served its purpose extraordinarily well. We as earthlings have developed technology to make our lives better, connected our voices like never before, and are continuing to "wake up" and realize The One Spirit at an increasing rate. Information is our power, and the PTB do not control the information any more.

Sadly, it appears Project Avalon may not be a good gathering place for those folks who are already turned-on and tuned-in.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

From an English pov I would say be careful about buying into the old 'I stand for change' catchphrase because once these individuals get into power history shows that exceptional social and economic 'conditions' result in a complete u-turn in any policies that do not agree with the agenda's grand plan. I have seen this in England over te past 15 years. I admire you for trying to see the best in a bad situation, but i feel that the whole political system in America and the UK does not have any real power right now.

Until the people are prepared to march peacfully on the capital then this will never change.

Keep up the positive attitude. Unite instead of fight.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Laugh, seems a pretty-wide open area of discussion. 'The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama'
Don't quite understand where Obama fit's in within the important matters but -- OK.

NWO, real deal and possibly in it all to stop third-world aggression and their building, buying or stealing WMD type stuff to use (walk-in) into domesticated Countries.
ETs, you betcha -- their here.
Economy, Uha.
Obama, if the USA agreed with Clinton's economic efforts, I'd guess Obama is more of the except more dedicated in paving the road for the middle class. While insisting the rich give a wee-bit more to finance it.
RSF

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

beware the wolf in sheeps clothing.


look for the good in everyone, but just remember that evil does not have horns and will deceive you with smiles.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

RSF: I mention Obama in this forum because I believe he represents the best possibility for eventual ET disclosure. I consider this information to be the biggest news in human history.

I believe real positive change on this planet will begin once this knowledge is processed and reaches critical mass. That is my hope.

My original ideas were carefully laid out in the first post. There's a lot of opposition. It's an interesting discussion I certainly could not find elsewhere, although I must say again there are many among us who are pretty staunch in their negative attitudes.

PS. Thanks for your thoughts MikeW. I believe the Americans and Obama are beginning to take the power back right now. His transition team is already in place, taking the necessary steps. There are eyes everywhere, too many eyes for them to steal it this time. We have the votes by an overwhelming margin. Finally the media here is catching on that people want answers to tough questions, not smears and lies. And in the end, it will still be up to us to hold him accountable.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Haha. Maybe only from Fox News. The rest of the press chose him in the primaries instead of Hillary and now wants him to win.

Because you don't fix a problem with another problem.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Funny, you criticized my Hitler comment, and then said this. This is funny! I can picture Obama's Youth doing Sieg Heils already. Lots of people have the ability to connect with people, but that doesn't mean they are good, and history proves us that.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Ive been smiling a lot reading this thread, very entertaining and thought provoking :original: my question is, who on earth would want to take over the job as pres. at the present time? man theres a lot of clearing up to do, being the next president is gonna be a tough one. luv you all :thumb_yello:

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Well said and better than I could say it.

I tend to view the anti-Obama sentiment as being more pro-NWO than Obama himself. It's meant to throw people off.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Eli and everyone else,

I personally dont have, and have never had a good feeling about Barack Obama. I also do not identify with your assesment in this quote, but I understand where you are coming from.

There was a very interesting acticle posted on Rense today about Barack that I'll post below linked to the article. Its a bit lengthy but I could not stop reading it once I started. I immediately started watching old videos of BO and applying these theories. Pretty amazing stuff. It reminded me a lot of David Icke's "Problem-Reaction-Solution" theory in that the most dangerous prison (for your mind) to be in is not the one that you can see and feel the bars and walls but the one that you believe yourself to be a free person. Read the article and you will see what I mean.

I'm just sayin...

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27...s_Speeches.pdf

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

I have come to the conclusion over years of reading Rense, that he is one of the big disinfo people out there. He seems to have no problem with putting every lie anyone out there can come up with about Obama on his site. I have written to him many times sharing with him the errors and lies that are provably wrong, but he has never gotten back to me or taken down the information. He has it in for Obama in a big way and has gone to rotten lengths to try and take him down. Now if anyone says they found info on rense against Obama, I refuse to even concider it. Obviously his disinfo has worked on you. I have a very strong intuition about people and so far it has done me well in life. Obama will be the best president we have ever had..period. I know it.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Question the almighty Obama and your life will be destroyed. Joe the Plumber knows it. Anyone that dares to question his socialist policies will be destroyed.

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Yay paranoia!

I fail to see how he "destroyed" the life of a guy who has no plumbing license and refuses to pay taxes. If anything, this "plumber" was a plant from the McCain campaign. All Obama did was answer his questions in a civil manner.

And again, what's with the hatred towards socialism? If you think socialism is a bad thing, what do you call nationalization of our banks by the government?

The United States of America: Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the poor

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Joe has a Keating 5 connection.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiw...eating-family-

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

ET's and Obama .... what a cesspool of BS

lol

How many of you remember the prophet Yahweh .. :roll1:


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb1395924.htm

Prophet Yahweh, Seer of Yahweh, Master UFO Caller
says that on October 31, 2008,
superhuman black men, from other planets,
will appear in their spaceships and hover over his UFO Summoning School
for three days as a sign that all Americans
should vote for Obama as President.


Annunaki Nookie
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...aki-nookie.jpg

:lol3:

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

bodzoyfa, which part of my assessment do you "not identify" with? Do you think that "they" will try to steal the election from Obama, even if it looks like a landslide?

Do you think the election is being thrown toward Obama? Please explain. I've been thinking about this stuff all year.

I read the first page of that article on Rense. It's laugh-out-loud funny. Here's a good quote, for those who didn't waste their time clicking:

"Obama is immune to logical arguments like Wright, Ayers, shifting every position, character, and inexperience, because hypnosis affects us on an unconscious and emotional level."

The Wright/Ayers/terrorist/anti-patriot argument is no longer logical. The only way this utterly desperate line of attack makes any "logical" sense is if you have amnesia and you don't remember 6 months ago. This stuff is old news, and it's already been chewed up, swallowed, regurgitated, examined again, swallowed again, and digested by the American people. Everyone already knows he's NOT a terrorist, except maybe Rense and a shrinking number of other Republicans willing to risk gambling their careers on defending McCain's slime tactics and smear campaign.

The above quote and the sentence following it on page 1 show exactly what this person's agenda is. If you want to buy into it, I'll not stop you, but I will remind you that it's old news, and the guy won the primary because he got more votes. He got more votes because rational people don't believe that BS.

You can't tell me some hack hypnotist got 100,000 Americans to assemble yesterday under the Gateway Arch in St. Louis to hear him talk about politics. No, you can't hypnotize 3.1 million people into donating to your campaign, including 600,000 new donors and $150 million dollars in September, half of which came from people who donate less than $100.

The fact is, Obama is trying to help us. You are looking at a real leader who has inspired and empowered people all across the country and the world to give a damn again.

250,000 hypnotized Germans enthusiastically approve this message and encourage you to take your country back.

http://www.russiablog.org/obama-berlin-germany.jpg

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

I have no doubt that Obama uses subliminal suggestivities
in his approach,
but to extrapolate that to mass hynosis is a bit severe.

All politicians learn to be actors.
Obama is an actor and a comedian.

Obama is excellent at hand movements and facial expressions.
He is also very intelligent.

Now compare him to the opposition.

Not too hard to get anybody's attention shifting to your point of view...
when Quasimodo and Barbie Bumble Doll are the opponents.

:lol3:

Re: The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama
 

Eli,

I understand that the hypnosis thing is an extreme idea right now, but what I dont identify with in your statement is not very extreme I dont feel. When you look at Obama you see real change and a real leader, and thats great that you feel like that. I, on the other hand, see a puppet who represents no real change.

I think its important to remember that just because an idea seems extreme and maybe outside of what one is willing to accept as possible does not make it disinformation. We are all speculating as to how far the rabbit hole goes.