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David 10-16-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by arcora (Post 53274)
We all have an internal dialogue and personal revelations. My truths are my truths and they are for me only. Selling them to others is unwise and useless.

Nobody is selling you anything. Don't like it, don't read it.

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Originally Posted by arcora (Post 53274)
When one begins to believe that their personal revelations are from space aliens or 'ascendant masters' and that they have been charged with revealing a message to the world people would be wise to question it. Most (if not all) channelers are deceiving themselves and others.

Why limit it to space aliens and ascendant masters? Heck, every church claim they speak the word of god and gather a flock to spread the word. Every government and organization must be run by loonies.


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Originally Posted by arcora (Post 53274)
Does anyone here believe that everyone diagnosed with schizophrenia or psychosis are actually contactees that are being suppressed by the PTB? Are all of the homeless people walking the streets while having bizarre conversations with invisible friends actually prophets?

Not sure how many homeless people you have had conversations with. What did they tell you?

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Originally Posted by arcora (Post 53274)
Where does one draw the line between the insane and the contactee? The son of Sam had conversations with dogs who eventually told him to commit mass murder. If he had posted on this forum he probably would have been hailed as a seer.

Your citing "The son of Sam"? He was a serial killer who stalked New York women in the late 70s. So basically you just called everyone on this board who have either had contact or seen something out of this world an insane serial killer. Thank you for clearing that up.

arcora 10-16-2008 03:44 PM

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Wow David.

You really missed my point.

David 10-16-2008 05:16 PM

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or did I? Hmmm.....

arcora 10-16-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 53309)
Nobody is selling you anything. Don't like it, don't read it.

My point was that personal revelations are personal and not meant for others. When people begin to think that their personal revelations are so important that all of humankind needs to hear them, often they are either naive or sliding down the slippery slope of imbalance.


Why limit it to space aliens and ascendant masters? Heck, every church claim they speak the word of god and gather a flock to spread the word. Every government and organization must be run by loonies.

The Bible wasn't written by a bunch of self-styled channelers trying to sell books and CD's. What does any of this have to do with those that run government?


Not sure how many homeless people you have had conversations with. What did they tell you?

I never said I had conversations with them - but I have seen them. Are they all contactees? You never answered.

Your citing "The son of Sam"? He was a serial killer who stalked New York women in the late 70s. So basically you just called everyone on this board who have either had contact or seen something out of this world an insane serial killer. Thank you for clearing that up.

I don't know how this could be misconstrued the way you did. I never called anyone here anything. Son of Sam was a guy who heard voices. He believed they were real. Look where it got him.

I reiterate...

Truth withstands scrutiny.

If anyone here is so certain that they hear voices of truth, why would they be afraid to test them against alternate hypotheses?

And, by the way...Asking the voices in your head if they are for real and/or well intentioned isn't scrutiny.

Merlin 10-16-2008 11:35 PM

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Hello all,

This thread is becoming like the one about Oct14th that now sits in the "off topic" section in Camelot. Constant back and forward with "how do you know Vs. I Know for sure" type argument.

I think this: both sides have valid points but none has the absolute answer. Is this not what they (PTB) want? Constant pointless bickering amongst ourselves about things we cannot prove one way or the other?

I can understand one person trying to persuade others not to blindly belive what they read and to question everything. I can also understand one who belives they have recieved an important message and want to tell people about it. Can we really discern who has truth and who does not, by reading posts on a forum.

Truth is important, absolutely, thats why one should question everything one reads. One should not just belive something because someone else said it is so, and because countless others belive it also.

Again, one must not dismiss eveything one reads because it does not fit their worldview, one must look at the information being presented, and the person presenting it, and question it if need be.

Is there a middle ground?
Can we agree to disagree but still carry on together against a mutual foe?
I don't know if we can or not.
Time, will tell, as they say.

Merlin.

ralok_j 10-17-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 53801)
Hello all,

This thread is becoming like the one about Oct14th that now sits in the "off topic" section in Camelot. Constant back and forward with "how do you know Vs. I Know for sure" type argument.

I think this: both sides have valid points but none has the absolute answer. Is this not what they (PTB) want? Constant pointless bickering amongst ourselves about things we cannot prove one way or the other?

I can understand one person trying to persuade others not to blindly belive what they read and to question everything. I can also understand one who belives they have recieved an important message and want to tell people about it. Can we really discern who has truth and who does not, by reading posts on a forum.

Truth is important, absolutely, thats why one should question everything one reads. One should not just belive something because someone else said it is so, and because countless others belive it also.

Again, one must not dismiss eveything one reads because it does not fit their worldview, one must look at the information being presented, and the person presenting it, and question it if need be.

Is there a middle ground?
Can we agree to disagree but still carry on together against a mutual foe?
I don't know if we can or not.
Time, will tell, as they say.

Merlin.

And who put you in charge? That's sarcasm by the way. :naughty:

hueyii 10-17-2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphor|a (Post 49709)
What you saw was a controlled weather balloon they are all kinds of different colors like silver orangish some have a coper like shell to give off the glowish shine effect, there are sooo many kinds that look like boxes or UFOs and move very fast, and if there is a combination with the wind it will move all over the place. But i'm not trying to be mean or sound rude but I think you should see someone about your voices if you think someone is talking to you about "not being ready" or whatever they say, or anyone at all other than a human for that purpose. By this story and a lot of your other posts it looks like you're looking to hard for something that isn't there at times, therefor making yourself believe it is there by thinking the weather balloon was a UFO. The voices and such were an excuse to yourself for hoping it would come down and wondering why it didn't mixed with hoping and thinking a little to hard. If your kids are young I hope you're not filling there head with stuff like this, thinking mom is hearing people talk in her head isn't understandable at that age..or thinking there is UFO's in the sky and when they go to bed at night thinking they will attack them so they get all scared. We don't need to let them know about ET and UFOs at a young age, they don't understand the history and will just freak and get damaged. Again not trying to bash you but psychically channeling is first of all not done that fast or by asking, and 2nd there are only a select few in the WORLD that have REAL abilities, Blossom Goodchild sure isn't one of them.

This guy is illuminati. ignore him.

ralok_j 10-17-2008 12:28 AM

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Theresa

Not to hijack your thread, but I saw something similar the other day about 4:30. It wasn't a bird or plane, and made no noise.

Merlin 10-17-2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ralok_j (Post 53847)
And who put you in charge? That's sarcasm by the way. :naughty:

I did. Harha!

(Its just an opinonion)


Merlin.

Chris Parson 10-17-2008 06:53 AM

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i wanna see pics of these glowing weather balloons that are flying around making telepathic contact with people.

Malletzky 10-24-2008 01:50 PM

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You all must've heard of

divide and conquer

Right????

Well, I have the feeling someone here just try to divide US!!!

And it seem to me that many of you (won't name any) forget about what we're here (not only on this forum, but as well as on this planet) for.

Can you remember? How about enlightement??? :welcomeani:

Seek in your heart and you will find the truth. Yes, YOUR TRUTH!!
No matter what other say!

Theresa 10-29-2008 02:37 PM

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Check this out, someone just sent it to me. Its footage taken in Germany that is exactly what we saw-so here you have it, folks. Is it a weather balloon? you be the judge....blessings!

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ft99NFxZPN0

David 10-29-2008 02:46 PM

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I have seen this type before and it's no weather balloon. :original:

Zelong 10-31-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 50049)
Hi y'all~

Do that and then YOU TOO will hear weather balloons talking to you!! :naughty:

Nice line :lmfao:
Theresa with your Gift have you noticed that you have psychic abilitys with animals at all?

Zelong.

Theresa 11-17-2008 06:38 PM

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hi zelong..

yes, I do and I'm always surprised how anthropomorphized their thoughts sound.....no, I"m not kidding!

I have to admit, I had clearer communication with my dog the times that I smoked weed. Then we could carry on conversations. No, I'm not kidding again!!

I do intuitive bodywork and I've worked on animals before. Their bodies are just like ours in terms ailments, etc.

One time, at the zoo, I "tuned into" a chimp very far away in a natural habitat exhibit, and was freaked out at what I felt. It was like just VERY intense emotion, like if you took our emotions and amplified them 100 times. I think thats because they don't have the ego consciouness to analyze or mitigate their emotions. They are like pure emotions. Which IS the animal brain, after all. :original:


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