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Adarajones 10-14-2008 04:16 AM

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http://larrysinclair.org/press.html

My jaw almost dropped when I watched this video!.

"IF" this would be true, OH God!

Use discernment!

:sweatdrop:

Humble Janitor 10-14-2008 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 50058)
Now why would he change his name to Barry Soreto when that is his adopted name which makes him an Indonesian citizen......? You see he was adopted to attend school and he had to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school there. In hawaaii, both parents need to be american citizens in order for the child to be......A mother also has to be 21 yrs of age. She was not

Both McCain and Obama are puppets. Both are illuminatis and both will continue to hurt the USA.

Obama is a plant as indicated

He is also the lesser of two evils.

Again, I can't understand what you're trying to accomplish by spreading disinformation about a Presidential candidate. You're not the first to do so and apparently not the last.

And it's funny how people take Sean Hannity seriously. He has connections to Neo-Nazis. The man has his head so far up his *** as well.

You show me a third party candidate other than Ron Paul that can get the people to stand up and clap and I'll show you a vote. Otherwise, third party candidates will always be a joke.

raulduke 10-14-2008 06:54 AM

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Hi End_Times, I was wondering if you would respond to my post above, if you have the time.

peaceandlove 10-14-2008 06:55 AM

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by Steve A: You need to understand that world of politics is very dirty. Once that is understood you don't even need to know where the money came from, you would already know that some favour was being done.
My post is just a copy of an e-mail I received that I pasted exactly as it was sent to me including the title, which actually is a copy of the original link Ampgod started the thread with.

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by Steve A: I think what the American public needs to do, is to look at the credible proposals made by each candidate and see where it would affect the public most.
I agree, but the question is what is 'credible'? Credible proposals tend to be broken. If only the American Public was given the choice and all candidates were yielded the same amount of time on mainstream broadcasts and in mainstream media, we could make a decision about credibility. If only certain candidates weren't smeared and made fun of in order to misdirect the American Public we might have a fair election.

I have not participated in politics for many years until one day I heard about a candidate that wanted to help us take back our Country and our Constitution, Ron Paul, and then my ears perked up.

Bless all the politicians; may we one day truly be 'The Land of The Free and The Home of The Brave'.


mntruthseeker 10-14-2008 07:06 AM

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I really do not care what obama is as long as he isnt president

peaceandlove 10-14-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 49079)
I agree the term Racist is overused or misused.
How many people here have cleaned out their OWN racist 'thinking'?

I was raised by two parents that had racist thinking. My Mother was really bad where my Father was actually 'Open Minded' for the times.
Still, they had their racist views. (It was called Prejudice Back Then BTW)

So with that *I* grew up thinking somewhat like my parents.
It took years to slowly start to change my thinking and even to this very day I catch myself 'thinking in those terms'.

Stephen,
Thank you for your sincerity. I have written two papers on prejudice, one in High School and one in College, as my parents were also somewhat racist, but in a way as to protect me from the barbs of others or so I thought.

"Children learn in their homes about animosity toward another group."
I always like to share these poignant lyrics from South Pacific (1949) by Rogers and Hammerstein that "summarize this learning concept".


'You've Got To Be Carefully Taught'

You've got to be taught to hate and fear
You've got to be taught from year to year
It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made
And people whose skin is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught

You've got to be taught before it's too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught

Humble Janitor 10-14-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by raulduke (Post 50239)
Hi End_Times, I was wondering if you would respond to my post above, if you have the time.

The term "race card" is a term invented by right-wing politicians and they pull out this handy little card whenever they think race has been invoked in a political manner.

McCain doesn't have to use racism. His supporters have already done it for him. Did you read about a rally in Clearwater, FL where McCain/Palin supporters were openly calling for Obama's death? What about the rally where an older white male brought a toy monkey with an Obama shirt and when the camera panned to him, he pawned it off on a kid?

Like it or not, racism still exists in this country and I just don't understand why Obama is the one accused of using race.

There's also a saying out there: "If you didn't vote, don't complain."

Humble Janitor 10-14-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 50244)
I really do not care what obama is as long as he isnt president

I do not want another Republican President.

Stephen 10-14-2008 09:26 AM

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One of the major 'things' that *I* am most concered with that the media or anyone else really does not dicuss very much is The Supreme Court.

I do not want another Repulican just on those grounds alone....

The Supreme Court affects us MAJORLY long after a President's 4 years in offiice...

Another point that people in the United Corporate States of America are not 'getting' is how much we have sold off our National Wealth.

I posted a video in another thread here and other forums about Argentina's Economic Collapse.
What has happened in Argentina is happening here in the States.

Link to that post: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...8&postcount=18

Frank Samuel 10-14-2008 10:18 AM

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The ball is already set in motion, Bildeberg group and other economic conglamerates if you will choose their candidate. What's plan for the USA with this make believe economic crisis is creatting a currency common to this hemisphere, the Amero. Barrack is already on board, so is McCain. There will be initial resistance expected because most change taken place will be very radical. The world of politics especially at the highest levels is a group of exclusivity. You aready know the groups anyone aspiring a high post in the goverment has to do to get a clean card. The Kenya connection for Obama
brings about and agenda which in a way makes him very astute. In the game of chess Barrack is a master chess player. McCain is on check or what I apropiately would term a stalemate.

Son of Eire 10-14-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by End_Times012 (Post 48760)
He's NOT a Muslim for the 5,000th time. He's also not Barry Sotrero (sp?) or whatever the hell the right-wing smear machine wants to believe. When the man himself publicly debunks this ****, when will the right-wing sheeple get the hint and move on?

When will the left wing sheeple ie. YOU get the hint.They are all the same rotton to the core always have been ,always will.

hueyii 10-14-2008 11:28 AM

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Turn off the news
stop reading conspiracy theories
meditate
vote the way your heart or "the source" tells you.

Mindless banter and deluded thinking doesnt serve the higher good. If you act out of love you cannot go wrong.

raulduke 10-15-2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by End_Times012 (Post 50265)
The term "race card" is a term invented by right-wing politicians and they pull out this handy little card whenever they think race has been invoked in a political manner.

I was really hoping not to have to argue semantics w/ you but, oh well here goes.
Wether you want to call it a race card or a race issue, surely you would agree that race, as an issue, exists and either campaign can selectively use it to their benefit as they see fit.
Please try to get past this left/right wing thinking. It's circular logic anyway.

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Originally Posted by End_Times012 (Post 50265)
McCain doesn't have to use racism. His supporters have already done it for him. Did you read about a rally in Clearwater, FL where McCain/Palin supporters were openly calling for Obama's death? What about the rally where an older white male brought a toy monkey with an Obama shirt and when the camera panned to him, he pawned it off on a kid?

I'm not sure you actually read my original post, as right there, you have made my point.

Yes, I saw that rally and a more recent one where McCain was booed for saying Obama was a "decent man". He didn't say "good man" because that wouldn't play well nationaly for him, but he couldn't indulge the frenzied crowd either because that wouldn't play well either. The fact is that fear of "different" people (i.e; racism) is indeed prevalent in some sleepy backwaters, so tactics that are slightly more overtly racist, will play better. They "focus group" the sh*t out of the American public to find out our fears and desires and then craft rhetoric that they think wil resonte w/ said fears or desire.

Obama may well be a good man, and his original intentions for seeking the office of the president may have been noble. McCain too for that matter.
Frankly though, that is irrelevant because good men or not, niether would be where they are w/o some very powerful backers.
What does matter though, is that the hands up the backsides of these two candidates are connected to the same entity.

I'll quote Thunderbird as an example of how it might be very easy to co-opt a good man.

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Originally Posted by Thunderbird (Post 46656)
Whats interesting about this....

remember when his jet had to make an emergency landing a few months back?

pilot lost controls of the plane.

something about an emergency slide being deployed...

yeah well what they arent telling you is that someone got controls of the aircraft and used that to SCARE him into doing what he was told.

notice his demeanor changed right after that incident.

"hey do what we tell you or we will pull your card...see how easy it is?"

EDIT: Thunderbird was responding to a thread I wrote entitled "Has Barack Obama Already Been Comprimised?"

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Originally Posted by End_Times012 (Post 50265)
There's also a saying out there: "If you didn't vote, don't complain.

I didn't say I wasn't voting. I'll vote for nader/gonzales. I'm sure you think that is throwing my vote away, but nader imo is a man uncorruptable.

raulduke 10-16-2008 01:31 AM

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End_Times,

Your repsonses leave me wanting.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I am making valid critiques of your arguments, and you are chucking out red herrings ("race card") like a fishmonger on friday.

Care to respond to anything I have written here w/o using semantics or circular logic?

Dantheman62 10-16-2008 01:51 AM

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Give it to'em rd.LOL!

mntruthseeker 10-16-2008 02:02 AM

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I just read an interesting article on the African Associate Press.....apparently mischelle obama called and ranted once again about the white racist. What is this if its not racism?

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ephone-to-api/

dutchie 10-16-2008 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 48156)
There is more than one other candidate.

Voting Your Conscience for a Third Party Candidate Is Not a Wasted Vote.

By Chuck Baldwin

When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.

In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States . Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan . In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri ; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio , Pennsylvania , and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America 's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out. baldwin08.com

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

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You are right on the money! The best truth I have seen yet on this forum, thank you:trumpet:

RSF 10-16-2008 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 52646)
I just read an interesting article on the African Associate Press.....apparently mischelle obama called and ranted once again about the white racist. What is this if its not racism?

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ephone-to-api/

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Cool research. But how do you feel about colors? I mean, these are highly educated people living, working and campaigning in the American world. Is black a problem.. though it is with a % of McCain supporters.

Goodness gracious. Seems to me Obama's concepts and actions in office, will be a blessing to middle-class Americans. Especially American People w/an income -240.000.
What level are YOU at?
RSF:wink2:


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