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Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

i noticed that some members have
"in the myst" under their name, can
someone explain what that is, i must
have missed something - Anchor is
one such name, it is not a ban? after
a well-thought out and reasonable,
respectful post such as this OP.... why
would A get lost in the myst? i'm so
confused.... :nono:

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by WineHippie (Post 255665)

Yeah, can someone pweese explain to ellie why is so Anchor in the misty lands. What he do folks. I iz at loss here.

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi (Post 255647)

Raul Duke--

it wasn't AJ that was banned ..... AJ stands for "Anchor John."

Hi hippihillbobbi, thanks for the clarification, but I didn't say banned, I said silenced, which is what happened to A.J.

Hippie, the "in the mists" designation is an indefinite 'read only' ban. Personally I find that phrase pretty smug, just say banned and lose the euphemism.

Still looking for an official reason for A.J.'s mistification btw.

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi (Post 255647)

Raul Duke--

it wasn't AJ that was banned ..... AJ stands for "Anchor John." the member that was banned was "Abraxasinas," the originator of the Q&A Thuban thread ...... the initial source of all this controversy.

don't doubt that it's difficult to follow, if you either dropped-in in the middle of the brouhaha, or you're a relatively new PA member. Anchor is a well-beloved member who only just recently resigned as a Mod, just because he wanted to ...... prefers being a member to a mod. but he was in the middle of the heat & flames when things started to get "explosive" around here. not only were many of the forum members flaming at each other, but the mods were flaming at each other, and at us, and we flamed at them ...... and so it became a big f___ing mess! (that word was flaming, btw!) :naughty: anyway ...... the upshot is that we went through lots of anger, pain, frustration and turmoil (even B&K weighed in ...... and it appeared that they were on opposite sides, but i'm pretty sure in the end we discovered they were really both on the same track ...... at least about keeping the Thuban thread open (which had been closed and now is reopened as "Read Only," i think.) so now, you're witnessing the process of all of us who love each other here trying to "make it right." we don't want all this pain to go "unutilized" on behalf of our individual and communal (and cosmic, even!) selves. LET US LEARN FROM THIS, we want to proclaim. and let us never forget Who binds us together as One. we and our mother-earth desperately need the power of Unity to activate the memory of our divinity, so that we can love and help her and each other to the best of our naturally divine ability.

Hope this helps, Raul Duke.

hippihillbobbi

OK , It all started with banning a few people and if those people did not break the forum rules , I don't see why they should have been banned in the first place . About the Thuban thread , I only read the first original page and I found the material of no interest to me . Just because that material is not of interest to some people , I don't see why it should be banned .
Wasn't Voltaire who said " I don't agree with your ideas but I will fight for your right to express them " ?
I still do not see why this forum has got to start from zero ...
May be somebody wants to exert more control over the info ...
It would have been much more simple ... if only somebody admitted to mistakes ...

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

If you ever wonder why things happen this is the time. The last month or so this has been my question because too many negatives have try to affect me in one way or another. Yesterday about 3:00 am my time on the island about 5 cars smash into each other there was flying car parts that smash into the house. This is a time of transition and each one of us can change the history of our planet, now you say, wait a minute Frank what are you talking about? Put into perspective just how many people are awake and aware on this planet, face it we are a minority. Yet we are a powerful minority. The changes on this forum and struggles within are a reflection of the majority of opposition that in one way or another is trying to derail the incredible miracle that is this forum.
Lets face it not one of us is perfect from the top to the bottom. I just hope that we can see the incredible importance that we have as a group , because like I said we are about to change history and together we can be more effective in creating that change. To the Mods I say everybody has a bad day and I hope that we can learn to forgive, embrace and love each other for we are a unique incredible group that is making a difference in the way we view our 3 dimensional existence on this planet.
Anchor thank you and we are in total agreement. If we let these changes divide us we are becoming victims to the many attacks manifesting in our lives through our exposure to each other on this forum. We represent our world and beyond make your stance and be strong lets continue the fight to awaken this planet we are a hand full that are reaching millions across the globe.

Thank you and blessings to all..:original::thumb_yello::wub2::wub2::wub2:

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

"Bring into play the almighty power within you, so that on the stage of life you can fulfill your high destined role."

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

Since i´ve join Avalon i have found wonderfull, intelligent and loving people, don´t let the fellings of fear and anger be on you.
when i came to Avalon it was first for the information, soon i realise that it was for the people and the sharing of experiences, fellings and love.
when someone leave or is banned i fell sand, we all make Avalon.

Thank you Anchor

http://projectavalon.net/forum/pictu...pictureid=9795

love for all

pedro

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

I would be willing to bet that there are pieces to this whole story that none of us will ever become privy to. I am personally OK with that. I am not interested in the past or the future. I am only interested in right now.

My personal philosophy is to never allow myself to feel victimized regardless of what happens in the world around me. You never know where perceived adversity is leading to. I can assure you that using adversity as a tool for learning instead of an excuse for feeling victimized is the only way to make sure that you move through that learning lesson and onto the next one.

Everything that happens in this reality is part of the learning environment. There are no victims. Only people experiencing varying levels of karmic lessons we call adversity. My only advice to those who feel like they are being victimized by the happenings here or elsewhere is to choose not to feel this way. If you don't, you are guaranteeing yourself the same or similar lessons a short time down the road at an even higher level of intensity.

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 255701)

My personal philosophy is to never allow myself to feel victimized regardless of what happens in the world around me. You never know where perceived adversity is leading to. I can assure you that using adversity as a tool for learning instead of an excuse for feeling victimized is the only way to make sure that you move through that learning lesson and onto the next one.

Everything that happens in this reality is part of the learning environment. There are no victims. Only people experiencing varying levels of karmic lessons we call adversity. My only advice to those who feel like they are being victimized by the happenings here or elsewhere is to choose not to feel this way. If you don't, you are guaranteeing yourself the same or similar lessons a short time down the road at an even higher level of intensity.

:thumb_yello::wub2:

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by pedro m.b. (Post 255697)

Thank you for this beautiful image of light, Pedro. We came here for this.Makes me smile to think of those who've ignited my flame....
In Great Love,
Bushycat

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

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Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 255701)

i would take it another step, tone3jaguar - i heard this
awhile back, i can't even remember from whom, but
to thank the adversary/negative/bummer for the
opportunity to grow/evolve/spiral up - i am not just passing
this along, i actually tested it - it worked and here is how...
another person and my self had a misunderstanding and for
months ignored each other and it was all so "high school" -
this is not my path.... so every time i saw her, i thanked her,
and i was calm, and open and one day - just like that, we had
a conversation like old friends and we have been mutually
respectful ever since....

My time here is on this old version of Avalon is done.

I have no wish to sit here and watch it decay further, feeling like a lab animal in a big social experiment.

I roll these quotes out quite often - forgive me if you read it all before.

It is a re-post from this thread http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...d.php?p=228973 which refers to one of the most important topics, in my opinion to ever be discussed on this forum.

In the Law Of One, during an answer to a question about Jesus, "the entity" in the following quote (17.20) Ra stated

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When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of a worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in the last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

This set in motion a recurring line of questions and answers that went far through the subsequent Q&A's which I have always found fascinating and illuminating on the subject.

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Originally Posted by Law Of One

18.12 Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but also the forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.

Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalysts that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.

Conclusion: forgiveness and healing are interrelated to the extent that they are almost synonymous - the one cannot occur without the other.

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So in coming to this conclusion, I am posting it on my forum healing thread. It is my hope that the energy of this healing offering will reach all those that need it and accept it, and will help all the people and all forums that now stand as bright as ever in Avalon's name, both on the successor forum and the other offshoot forums now well made. The name which as you know is not owned and has very special significance. This is the way of things - it is on a micro scale exactly what will happen to human settlement in the future. People will stratify according to among other things their vibrational qualities - I know I am not alone in predicting this.

There will never be a forum of like of this one. The unique blend of forces have gone. There will never be any forum that is free of any manner of control, it will never be perfect. Life was not going to be easy like that. What works for one does not always work for another. One must tolerate much.

Push too hard on a balanced structure, no matter what the motive behind that force and destruction results. This destruction - the work of Shiva - is well underway.

We just all need to roll with the punches and be true to who we are and move to where we need to be. Follow your hearts and you will go to the right place.

It has been an extreme honor and a great privilege to be among those of this forum. You are all beautiful stars, struggling in the illusion that you created with your yet unknown almighty power.

Jester Terrestrial - never give up - but make sure you choose what you are not giving up on !

This is it.

Time to go.

your Anchor..

Thank you Anchor.

I really value your wisdom and wish you the best of true Love and blessings.

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

Thank you Anchor

Sincerely.

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

Anchor I have read your post. I believe that you wrote it from your heart. It may sound very inspiring for somebody who does not know what has happened. However, I would like to ask some hard questions that may in fact lead us to the true forgiveness and the real change. You are offering cheap forgiveness that always leads to more pain and anguish. I am sick and tired of it because I have witnessed so many people suffering because of this dysfunctional belief. What you are proposing here is to hide under the carpet the real issues that caused us pain and discomfort, saying that it was done in the name of love. Well, true forgiveness comes form openly admitting what we have done wrong and changing our behavior.

Let’s begin to ask questions.

1 Avalon was created to build community to prepare for future events. Why nobody has asked us about our opinion to move to another forum? This is a sign of total disrespect.

2. Why many treads have been deleted? We want to know who personally was involved in this action.

3 Why the mods have been sent into the Mists? Who is responsible for this decision?

4. What posts have been censored and why? We want to know who personally stands behind this action.

You have stated that “the energy has deflected into INDIGNATION”. Well, anger is a powerful feeling that indicates that we were VIOLETED and motivates us to make the real changes. Anger also is a secondary feeling underneath which lies hurt and sadness. Your proposal ‘Let it end and heal it” is basically begging us to suppress the feelings that may lead us to the real healing. Are we surprised that 27 million people suffer from depression? What about those who suffer from anxiety disorders? Do you see a connection? If the issues are not resolved, they go underground, leaving us open to being reactive, thus causing more conflicts and pain. We may even try to blame astral attacks. When we blame somebody or something, we do not want to take responsibility for our actions; therefore, we can stay as dysfunctional as we want to be. We are not going to stay as you said “stronger and wiser” if those who has caused problems will not have the courage to look what they have done. But it takes the courage and maturity, doesn’t it? Anchor, do you really believe if we offer your version of forgiveness to those who have a serious control issue are going to change?

I hope that my post will no be deleted, as you asked us to be honest.

Love to you all,

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

Anchor...I hope you will read this. I keep thinking about you...and I keep feeling very sad. I'm not sure why, exactly. The totality of your posts...combined with the whole abraxasinas/Thuban phenomenon seems to be somehow connected. I have speculated endlessly (mostly silently and personally)...but I will not speculate presently. The whole phenomenon of life in this Solar System makes me even more sad...and even despondent. I'm trying to understand what's really going on...which makes me insecure, defensive, and reactionary. I'm sorry for any comments of mine which may have been hurtful. None of them were directed at you...but I think some of my threads and posts may have seemed to be irreverent attacks on concepts and beings which I think you may know a helluva lot about. I know I've gotten a lot of things wrong during my short stay here in Avalon...but I'm not exactly sure which comments have missed the mark by the widest margin. I hope that you are OK...and that you will really only be away for a month or two. Maybe someday we could have a beer. Namaste to you Anchor John...from orthodoxymoron. :tears:

Re: Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVAL

You know how life is when moving day comes? All that angst at having to pack up, sort through stuff and then having to move it all to the next place. Indeed a train wreck took place and anything anyone can pretty much say at this point is hindsight.

However, there are now 3 new forums. All of them look inviting for different reasons. Some of us are already developing stretch marks just floating from one forum to the next working on keeping our connections to those who have touched our lives.

There was bound to be upset that this forum is closing its doors because folks are comfortable here. Moving is way up there on the stress scale and Avalon has kind of been like one's living room. And now the furniture is being moved and packed up.

A new site is not such a bad thing. New friends await along with old ones. There are new directions and visions to explore. And each of the new forums also has something old (friends) and something new (visions) for all who are a part of them.

I already am experiencing the energy draining away from Avalon as members find their way to the other forums throughout this transition.

I'm very happy for having met everyone here and all the knowledge collectively each has shared. Avalon is not broken it has just undergone a transformation. Just as the caterpillar spins its chrysalis, once it undergoes metamorphosis it then sheds it protective coating by climbing out, dries its wings, and takes wing. Only now there is a new type of freedom. The freedom to choose, the freedom to share and the freedom to hold onto that, which is dear to the heart. So take a breath fellow Avalonians... this time when we all jump off that cliff, we fly. :thumb_yello:

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Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 257593)

Jester Terrestrial - never give up - but make sure you choose what you are not giving up on !

This is it.

Time to go.

your Anchor..

:thumb_yello: You betcha!!!

Thank you friend!

PEACE!!!