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I just tried this as well. Looks like there's a glitch in the thread rating function.

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What I sense in Kerry is fear. She has heard too much in too short of time. It would seem she has had her foundations severely shaken. Maybe she's on overload. Maybe she needs a break from the intensity. Who has walked in her shoes?

I have been reading the interviews for almost 6 months and still haven't made it through. I fight fear, anger, shock and depression on a daily basis. I have to walk away from this stuff back into my world and FUNCTION. I need time to process and if I take in too much at once I get thoroughly, emotionally overwhelmed. I am not a young person and to finally have confirmation of what I have believed my entire life is none the less astounding....and quite frankly terrifying. It's all way more than I ever imagined in my worst nightmare. One does not, I think, experience a paradigm shift of this magnitude easily. Maybe the younger people have lived with it and naturally accept this information, but for me it brings profound sadness. I don't like being deceived...not one bit.

The gentleman in the first post is ultimately correct. Go out and just do--anything. And send Kerry some strong, stable, grounding and protected loving energy. I'll bet she could use the support.

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Its turned off now. No more stars

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Words of wisdom from Brinty. It's true as well. We need to stop dwelling on the bad stuff.

As for PLW, no comment with the exception that it isn't anything I want to be part of. Spiritual development is a private thing, not a group matter.

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Wow, you seem to have super senses, can you tell me how i feel at the moment? I've been following the PC information from the beginning and i never felt fear. I felt enlighted and some of my questions got answered. The truth will set you free, but maybe that's not the case for some. Not everyone can handle this kind of information. I've seen what it can do to people and you described that very well. No offense but mirroring your thoughts and feelings upon others won't make it any better.

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Burgundia,

I'm a fan of Britny's, too. Just the Spike Jones clip alone made me wish I could meet him (and others in Oz) before this short and ultimatly sweet life is over. I might seem like a gloom and doomer, but the truth is, I made a small living from writing the world's first "Gothic rock" magazine from 1979 to 1983 before the term "Gothic" was applied to a rock 'n roll genera.

I really found a quiet beauty in the night and explored the dark mythology of the creatures who inhabited that dream world and inspired the classic writers of centuries past. Towards the end, things got genuinly too spooky. I can't go there right now as it was horrific and cost the life of the love of my life.

Things change as do the seasons and Leslie and this extended, positive on-line cmmunity is now the love of my life.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~night-voices/

Above site is very old and very difficult to finish building. All in due time... I suppose.

Spooky Luv Bugs,

Paul Frankenpernerstine

PS. Another fact: So. Cal. and the surounding desert really does have its, dark "doom and gloom" waves. They are very real and have global significance. There are also light-filled positive waves, too! The whole world knows about them. Please have patients with Babylon's red light district as we go through a reformation of sorts. Thanks.

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Hang in there 2rivers. I know it's a cliche, but things seldom turn out to be as bad as we imagine they will be. Our imagination can cause us to perform wondrous things - but it can also destroy us.

It is not possible to walk in someone else’s shoes but with a lifetime’s experience of living with fear of some sort or another, it is easier to understand that yes, some folk do have serious fears which may seem trivial or not understandable to others. Many fears are irrational but that doesn’t make them any the less real.

I can’t handle heights like tall buildings, yet I have no qualms about flying. As a child of four years, I was pulled from the bottom of a pool and resuscitated and even now I can’t handle having my head under water. I’m scared witless in a confined space to the extent that I can’t even wear a full face helmet. I’ve always got to have moving air around my face or else I start to unravel.

The one thing I have learned is that all the good meaning explanations do no good to quell the feeling of panic that overtakes one when a panic attack occurs. Fear is something that you have to conquer yourself a bit like breaking an addiction habit. You have to really want to do it.

The reason for many fears can be traced back to what was drummed into you as a child. I think all of us experience fear of the dark which is probably a distant memory of cavemen days when wild animals or other tribes could attack under cover of darkness. In more modern times, horror movies and the like, coupled with sadistic brothers or sisters who liked nothing better than to scare you half to death, are the cause of many fears.

We are coming to the time now when the more enlightened of us can shine a light of comfort for the nervous ones. It has been suggested that we are coming to a time where untold numbers of us are going to die in some calamity. It pays to stop at this point and do a bit of rational thinking about death.

There are enough books available written by people who have had near death experiences and have ‘seen past’ the veil of what is called death. Death is something that can’t be avoided so it strikes me as being sensible to find out as much about it as possible and who better to listen to than someone who has ‘been there, done that’ so to speak.

Now a person in this lifetime, can only die once - so from an individual’s point of view, what does it matter if in a catastrophe, one person dies, or one billion? OK, the customs people at the Pearly Gates are going to pretty busy in the latter event.

The big question of, “is there life after death?”, can be answered once again by reading books on the subject. Life, as you know it, in a physical form is out - after death you will survive as an intelligence without a physical body. You don’t have to believe this now, but you will believe it after you die because you just won’t be able to ignore the fact.

To those who fear death, my message is that you should learn to accept the inevitable and to help you in this direction, read books about the death experience and what comes after it. I would suggest starting with Into The Light by John Lerma, M.D. followed by Between Death And Life by Dolores Cannon. Both these books are comforting reads as I’m sure others who have read them will agree. Check them out at this website - just enter the author's name and the book title - http://www.abebooks.com/?cm_ven=ggl&...FSaXhgodCzIPsg

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Aw gee, come on down R and D and you can be my fan club president.

The label "Doom and Gloomers" I reserve only for people who try to pass the topic off as being a real threat and something to be seriously scared of. I find nothing threatening about scary pictures or a good old ghost story because I know they are just fiction and can't really hurt me. :nono:
They can't - can they? :eek:

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Deep Gravelly Cinematic Voice:

Fear !! It knows you're alone !

I've posted a thread somewhere about this... too long ago to remember the exact ins and outs... but it occured to me that eventually there is too much to worry about. Negative ETs, FEMA camps, Planet X, Illuminati plans, swine flu, yada, yada, erm, going grey?!

This then struck me as suspicicous. It can't all happen ! lol... what a day that would turn out to be.

Then it seems to me, we just invest in that state of mind because there is some kind of pay-off to it. Generally this involves living in the future now, and not living in the now-now, which means getting up off your butt and doing something with your life.

Having just watched 'What the Bleep' yesterday, (is there a thread somewhere here on that? I'd like to comment...) I can now also see that there is a chemical payoff to that state of mind. Just like indulging in chocolate or looking at pictures of fairly naked women advertising chocolate. (ahem). Or bullying someone, or being mean, or gossiping.

Or anticipating that the Xargon of Grath is going to pull your adenoids out through your sphincter. Mm. Yum Yum :lol3:

Once we see the whole fear thing as a state of mind, you come to realise that NONE OF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. At least not in the way your mind thinks it will right now. Doesn't mean bad things won't happen to us at some point. I mean I will probably stand on a garden rake again at some point in my life. But the pain generated from actual harm is different from the one caused by worrying about pseudo harm. This is not constructive nor useful.

So we really can be happy, be one... and enjoy this moment. Because that's all there is. go running into the future... and your mind will miss the party happening now.

Thanks for the thread Brinty ! Clark, you are as always a great read on this site. Nice to have you back.

I better put those pictures away now.....:wink2:

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Oh you are so right Kulapops :thumb_yello: if only we all concentrated on the pleasant things that could happen to us like not having to mow the lawn every week, finding a money tree in the back yard, eating all the chocolate you like, never having to diet, finding a 'stay young' pill, being surrounded by half naked ladies. Oh the list could go on and on. Um, why stop at half naked, why not go the full monty? :biggrin2:

All the above are about as possible as the negative fears but much more pleasant to contemplate. Care for another chocolate? Help yourself. :cheerful_h4h:

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And what does your wife think about it?:naughty:

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LOL, your SO funny!!!
THX, laughing is one of my most FAVORITE things to do :original:

GREAT flick, check it out! :thumb_yello:


EXACTLY!!!! why take the ride if your not going to ENJOY it???
I like the way you think! cheers to you! cheers to us all!

~ one love ~

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She stays in her own fantasy world and leaves me in mine because she knows I usually fall asleep before the excitement happens. :winksmiley02:

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I'm going to put that on a wall somewhere :original:

Thanks for making my day too.


It is sooo nice... when we just hit the right moment don't you think ? the right point of the wave, the perfect stroke of the shaving brush, saying just the right thing to make someone feel happy , or laugh.

Me and my friend used to have a game called 'nose bubbles' and the idea of that game would be to say something unexpectedlly to make the other person laugh, if they were drinking anything, laugh so much that the bubbles came out their nose!

Ok, maybe that sounds gross, but the moment was wonderful, to laugh so hard that you could almost not stand. Those moments of catching each other out came months apart, but boy did we enjoy them when they happened.

I think this forum is a little like that, so is life.

Enjoying those perfect moments. Thanks Illuminate, for giving me such a buzz.

Thanks Brinty for this thread... we need so many more like this. You're right, there are so many great things to hope for, with this biobody...why waste a life and a focus dreaming up horrible stuff to lose sleep over? Especially when there is currently nothing (major) to worry about.