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http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/index.htm


I dont know if this site was posted before, if so... woops

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This is my first post at this Forum and I'm glad to be aboard.

Here is my understanding of Sovereignty:

*We are all "created" with inherent rights
*No document can give them or take them
*The people create government to do certain things they can't, as individuals. The creation can't control the creators
* There is a hierarchy of Law

• Natural
• Law of Commerce
• Common Law
• Governments-Laws and regulation, etc. of the organic republics of the states
• Private copyrighted company policy of foreign corporations (Municipalities)

*"We the People" have chosen to participate on the Private copyrighted company policy of foreign corporations (Pccpfc's) level of the hierarchy via adhesion contracts an forfeit our inherent rights
*"We the people" can regain our standing in the hierarchy of law (Law of Commerce) via Redemption
*Redemption is essentially a commercial process using the UCC which allows us, the flesh and blood human being gain control of our "legal fiction", the straw man
* The straw man was "created" by (Pccpfc's) because they are legal fictions and legal fictions can't deal with real flesh and blood humans. They have to have an entity to deal with on their own level
*We assume responsibility for our legal fictions by entering into adhesion contracts with (Pccpfc's) Social Security, Birth Certificate Registration, Driver's Licenses, Marriage Licenses
* The US has been under Marshal Law since the the seven Southern states walked out of Congress at the time of the Civil War
*The 14th amendment created a slave class called US Citizens
*The US was incorporated in 1871 and reorganized in 1877
*Private banks financed the US corporation
*In 1913, these banks demanded passage of the Federal Reserve Act or they would no longer finance the corporation and would allow the country to descend into economic chaos
* As part of the Federal Reserve Act, The US Corp borrowed paper money (not backed by substance-gold or silver) and was obligated to pay the interest of the "loan" back to The Federal Reserve in gold
* In 1933, all of the gold in the US treasury was gone as payment to the Federal Reserve, which led to the US Corporation declaring bankruptcy in House Joint Resolution 192. The full faith and credit of "We the people" were used as collateral in the proceedings and gold was removed from circulation as lawful money. HJR-192 removed the obligation to pay a debt with lawful money and instead gave individuals the right to "discharge" debts with Federal Reserve Notes (a promise to pay when there was lawful money back in circulation) with limited liability, meaning that they could not be sued for using them
* When the Federal Government removed much of our lawful money from circulation to meet the needs of the people (only silver coins remained until 1968), the Congress was required to give the people a remedy. Public Law: "Chap. 48 48 Stat. 112" is that remedy. It states that the Federal Governments will pay my debts, dollar for dollar. Note: It does not say that the government will pay for anything I desire to buy (like a car), only that it will pay my legitimate debts
* In 1938, The Supreme Court took up the case Erie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins 304 US 64 and with their ruling removed Common Law from existence as far as The Court was concerned. From then on, Equity Courts and Admiralty Courts were merged into a Law Merchant Court
* In 1974 Louisiana is the last state to adopt the UCC putting in place and the UCC becomes "the Law of the Land"
* Since all is commerce, one is either in honor or dishonor. The key is to remain in honor, but in control
* There are 10 maxims in commercial law:

1. A WORKMAN IS WORTHY OF HIS HIRE
2. ALL ARE EQUAL UNDER THE LAW
3. IN COMMERCE TRUTH IS SOVEREIGN
4. TRUTH IS EXPRESSED IN THE FORM OF AN AFFIDAVIT
5. AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT STANDS AS TRUTH IN COMMERCE
6. AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT BECOMES THE JUDGMENT IN COMMERCE
7. IN COMMERCE, ANY MATTER TO BE RESOLVED MUST BE EXPRESSED
8. HE WHO LEAVES THE BATTLEFIELD FIRST, LOSES BY DEFAULT
9. SACRIFICE IS THE MEASURE OF CREDIBILITY (NO WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE= NO LIABILITY, RESPONSIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR MEASURE OF CONVICTION)
10. A LIEN OR CLAIM CAN BE SATISFIED ONLY THROUGH REBUTTAL BY AFFIDAVIT POINT BY POINT, RESOLUTION BY JURY, OR PAYMENT

*Commercial law is non-judicial
*What all governments are adjudicating and making rules about, are these basic rules of commerce
*No court and no judge can overturn or disregard or abrogate somebody's Affidavit of Truth
*No agent or attorney of a fictitious entity can sign an affidavit for any corporation. They do not have the standing
*As a corporation, the Unites States has no more authority to implement its laws against "We the People" than does McDonald 's Corporation except for one thing- - the contracts we signed as surety for our straw man with the United States and the Credit Bankers
*All of this was done under:

VICE-ADMIRALTY COURTS

The United States of America is lawfully the possession of the English Crown per original joint venture agreements between the colonies and the Crown, and the Constitution, which brought all the states (only) back under British ownership and rule. The American people, however, had sovereign standing in law, independent to any connection to the states or the Crown. This fact necessitated that the people be brought back, one at a time under British Rule, and the commercial process was the method of choice in order to accomplish this task. First, through the 14th Amendment and then through the registration of our birth certificate and property. All courts in America are Vice-admiralty courts in the Crowns private commerce.

*The courts do this:

1. Build a system based on appearances (fiction)
2. Create subtle ways of getting people to contract with the fiction in order to make them accommodating parties to it
3. Induce people to give this fiction life/substance by arguing and testifying

*You want the courts to WITNESS, they want you to TESTIFY
*You have to be able to be smart enough to get the other side to establish a commercial 'agreement' with you
*The State has created a special office called "person" and we apply for and are given it, so that the natural law principle applies: "what one creates, one controls."
*The key is to vacate the office
*A Sovereign is a private, non-resident, non-domestic,non-person, non-individual, NOT SUBJECT to any real or imaginary statutory regulations or quasi laws enacted by any state legislature which was created by The People.

This is certainly not exhaustive, and there can be much to be expanded upon. It is certainly worth spending some money to "up to speed" and I saw Truther21 mention nmcservices.net and that is where I have gathered much of the meat of how to accomplish Redeeming my straw man and regaining my standing as a Sovereign .

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Fool, Thanks so much for the post above! Lots of good information!!

Peace
:flowers2:

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I'm not sure if Robert's most recent information was presented in this thread but here it is...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...revision&cd=1#

I know he'll be coming out with more very shortly as well ;)

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Hows it going. Im going threw with the process. I just mail some leters to collection people. We'll see what happens. In the meantime, I am gunna get some papers together to start the process.

Here is a good site of info, might already be posted but here it is again.

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/FormsInstr.htm

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OK OK..... Update on the garnishment.... As you know I had them taking $50 a month out of my check. Well a few days ago they sent a letter to my employer. (Enclosed please find a full release of MY WORK from further liability in the entitled garnishmant cash) This is what the court got...(You are hereby released as garnishee and discharged from futher liability in the above entitled case. Any funds being held shall be returned to the defendant... ME).

I just called the attorney that tried to help me, I said I want my wages from missing work, I want my secretarys wages, and I want the cost of your services back.........she said YES you can get them back. So now instead of paying the 3rd party debt collector $900 or so, They will pay me about $800 for damages. Im filling a lean against them.

This is the week that I put my foot threw a ceiling of a customer, had the bank charge me $300 in overdraft from the bank holiday, and blew my plires up, that cost $25. I have no Idea why the carma came down that hard on me this week. Its lookin up.

Peace.:thumb_yello:

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This thread definitely needs to stay on the front line... And I fully agree with having Bill and Kerry interview Robert Menard... Please Bill and Kerry, would you???... Could you??? :groupwave:

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wow!! thanks. peace4gaia!!
your thread has really helped me to get a grasp on these concepts.
please do make note on mary croft's book 'clobbered..'
i don't have a printer. i can't access videos/audios due to dialup inability.
i need to order menard's videos. has anyone ordered his packages?
i really look forward to following this thread closely. thanks for the amazing help, peace4gaia!!

peace, patrick

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Thought I'd bring back this thread with another video from Robert Menard... Excellent info!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...on+small&emb=0

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Peace4Gaia: Thank-you for posting all of this information. I've heard Jordan Maxwell talk about these issues previously...and it made me ill. I started reading your notes...and I had to stop. I'll have to try again tomorrow. There are so many technicalities, definitions, rules, etc. which are used to deceive, subvert, defraud, control, etc, etc. Some say that Washington DC is not part of the United States, and that it is not under the U.S. Constitution...but rather under Roman law(is this why the Roman Fasci is prominently displayed front and center in the U.S. Senate chambers?). Perhaps a comprehensive and exhaustive worldwide search should be made(if it hasn't already) regarding who REALLY owns what(and who)...and what authorities, laws, and constitutions REALLY apply to each square mile of Earth. The City States of Washington DC, Vatican City, and the City of London might be good places to begin. The title of this thread is the solution to almost everything: INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY & PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

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Robert Menard has recently made fools of two lawyers in Court in British Columbia Canada and they are now trying to get people serving Notice of intent and claim of right , to say that Robert has been charging them money to assist in this process which would seemingly violate the law . he has gotten so fed up that he has has devised a Crafty Plan . In Canada they want us to be members of society They don`t name it but the laws for it are crafted by the Upper Canada Law Society. Robert has decide to take the fight world wide now making more people aware as to what is going on and his plan is to create a new society .... the Free man On The Land Society, He has developed a new website devoted to this and is in the process of opening chapters in Canada , New Zealand, Australia, The U. S., the U.K.and europe ..... His goal is to educate as many as possible there is a fee for this but as a member of this new society it is permissible under the new society`s laws . I will post the link to this so many can join however the site may eventually be available to paying members only


here is his video describing his plan

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...47111802&hl=en

the link to his Freeman Society

http://www.worldfreemansociety.org/forum/index.php

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This thread deserves a BUMP :thumb_yello:

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Apologies for the massive cut&paste but this sums it up pretty good.

Spiritual Sovereignty
Germane through Lyssa Royal
February 21, 1992

Privilege
A privilege is permission - granted by a higher authority to carry out an activity. When gaining a privilege, one must often give up a natural right. Example According to the U.S. Constitution, people have a right to travel public roads in their private vehicles. However, when they enter into a contract with the state to receive a drivers license, they exchange their constitutional right to travel for a state-granted privilege to drive, and are thus subject to the stipulations of the state (auto insurance, realm of integral registration, etc.).


Rights
Rights are natural states of being, whether recognized or unrecognized, that all humans inherently possess. (For example, the right to procreate or grow food is obvious, but not necessarily recognized by documentation.) Some rights are recognized in the U.S. Constitution, such as the right to travel. Rights are nullified when they are exchanged for privileges, such as when one enters into a contract with the state through a marriage or drivers license. When natural rights are exchanged for privileges granted from an outside source, one becomes a nonsovereign, or a subject of the authority who has given the privilege.


Civil Law
Civil law is the structure that organizes, controls, punishes and rewards individuals who have given up their rights in exchange for privileges.


Common Law
Common law, a law of sovereigns, is based on the idea of self-responsibility and natural rights. It is recognized under the Constitution as being the natural state of being. Only in the last century has common law been methodically exchanged for civil law.


Sovereignty
Sovereignty is the state of being achieved when one operates only under common law, or has taken total self-responsibility for their lives.




Spiritual and Emotional Sovereignty
All right, greetings to you. First off we would like to say that spiritual sovereignty is the result of emotional sovereignty. In addressing the idea of emotional sovereignty we will indicate how spiritual sovereignty can be attained.

Here are some definitions of emotional sovereignty. First of all, it means liberation, freedom. A state of emotional sovereignty is obtained when a person recognizes, both intellectually and emotionally, that he/she is the total creator of his/her reality and has sole responsibility for him/herself.

These concepts sound like simplistic metaphysics, for many lecturers and channels espouse them. However we are going to take you deeper into the areas where you have not attained emotional sovereignty, areas where there is a disguised play being acted on the stage, and the playbill says one thing but the message the play carries says another. We will point out contradictions in the philosophies on your planet, in your own thinking, and in the systems that you have set up. This is to show you that even though you claim you want spiritual and emotional sovereignty, you are actually perpetuating its opposite.

There are many points we will bring up that, taken separately, may look as if they are not connected. However we're going to link them to show you just how deep is your sense of non-sovereignty and how ancient is this state.


Sovereignty and the Constitution
Let us first talk about things that are very close to you here on the earth plane, most notably, issues of an educational, political or religious nature. Many on your planet feel that these ideas are some of the cornerstones of your existence. As an example, many individuals speak very highly of the Constitution of the United States and how it guarantees freedom for all people. Yet some things have happened since 1776 that have gradually pulled the wool over your eyes, shall we say, so that you are saying one thing but acting out its opposite. Now, in no way are we pointing a finger; in no way are we telling you you're bad or wrong. All the systems set up on your world, dating back thousands of years, were taught to you by your forefathers (to be more specific, your extraterrestrial forefathers), who have been grappling with these same issues themselves. They looked to your planet as a place where perhaps these issues could be healed once and for all. Thus there is in no way a judgment of you.

Your mass consciousness has reached out to us, to other levels of consciousness, asking for assistance to move through this most difficult time. This is a time when you can enslave yourselves more deeply or where you can finally achieve your sovereignty. Within the next 50 years you will decide the direction you wish to go. We and others have answered your call, and we give you our perspectives on some of these things to assist you. Should you choose to use these perspectives, that is up to you.

We will, of course, call on those present for assistance with some of the historical facts. We are somewhat limited in the method of channeling that we use with this vehicle to bring through specific historical information that she herself does not possess. Thus if anything we say is historically inaccurate, you may correct us, although historical accuracy is actually irrelevant.


Ways You Enslave Yourselves
We're going to talk about how there are many things occurring within your reality right now that keep you enslaved. We will use a very simple analogy In your society you have set it up so that marriage is a socially sanctioned institution, and in some instances legally sanctioned as well. If you operate within the parameters of marriage, you are led to believe that you have certain privileges. Now, it is a fact not well known that when you enter into a contract such as marriage, there are issues other than marriage. When you sign anything that has to do with a state or a local government, there are times when you actually relinquish certain rights. When you sign a marriage contract, you give up your right to educate your children the way you see fit, giving the state authority to educate them. Thus you give up your right to educate your own children (depending on the laws of each individual state).

These things are not clearly understood when one enters this contract - but it's important to note that nobody is trying to "get" you. Because of your own deep-seated emotional beliefs, you have created covert ways to keep yourself stuck in these dysfunctional emotional beliefs. What is covert is what you're doing to yourselves. Do you follow so far?

Another example, one written into your Constitution, is the right to drive. When you apply for a drivers license, you give up your right and are thereby granted a privilege. But because you exist under the Constitution, you have a right to drive.

I want to clarify that it is basically a right to travel on the roads. The Supreme Court has ruled that this includes one's personal automobile.

Because that is your right, you don't have to do anything to exercise it other than to exist. However, when you enter into a contract (a drivers license), you relinquish that right and subject yourselves to laws that are made regarding the privilege you are now given. As teenagers you are taught that you take drivers education, apply for a license and then you can legally drive. Of course, when you get your license you are then subject to the laws about automobile insurance, vehicle registration, the laws of the road, etc. Your traveling then becomes a privilege instead of a natural right, correct? You're not taught that you have a choice.

Another example is common-law marriage -- marriage in the eyes of God (never mind the piece of paper) - retaining your rights to educate your children. Or you can sign a contract and thus no longer educate your own children. You and your spouse become legally bound to each other and are given certain supposed privileges. You are not told you have choice, it is taken for granted that you get married and sign the papers. There is seldom conscious thought about alternatives that may better serve your situation.

When you go for your first drivers license, you are not told you have a choice under the Constitution, which your forefathers wrote and which you all co-created. You are not told you have a choice either to retain your natural rights as a citizen or to sign away those rights in exchange for certain privileges and all the laws those privileges are subject to. If you retain, for instance, your common-law rights -your natural rights under the Constitution - even if you are caught by a policeman for speeding there may be a hassle but constitutionally you still have the right to travel. You can be fined or punished only when you have given away your rights in exchange for privileges; then you are bound by the laws. Are we correct?

Not having a drivers license, according to the law, does not give you the right to violate the safety laws. According to the Supreme Court you are still subject to the speed laws and other rules of the road. The punishment for not having a drivers license differs from state to state. In Arizona, as you said, it is simply a fine. In other states it can be jail. So there is a wide variety in the type of crime as well as punishment. A misdemeanor in Arizona could be a felony in another state.


Pleiadian Philosophy - 100% Responsibility
The point we wish to make is that when you give up your power to another person or an institution to keep yourself in line, you have given up your sovereignty. Let us give you an example using the Pleiadian philosophy. Let's say that the Pleiadians want to drive cars on your planet. Their philosophy is one of total self - responsibility, meaning if they hit someone, they are responsible. If they are hit by someone else, they are responsible for that, too. If they are in some type of automobile dispute, each person involved takes responsibility for his position. There are never any victims.

In that case what you call your civil law is not applicable. Civil law (the way you set up your system on your planet) ensures that someone is a victim, that someone must be held responsible because no one is willing to take responsibility for themselves. Your system reinforces the idea that someone is at fault, and therefore there must be someone to punish you - because you are unable or unwilling to take total responsibility for your own reality. Thus victimhood is continually perpetuated. How many times a day do you see an automobile insurance commercial on television where the injured person says, "It wasn't my fault. Don't I deserve something for my pain and suffering?" This is the attitude, the dynamic, that is constantly being perpetuated.

We recognize that you may not want to change overnight - it may be too much of a shock. However, right now the majority of people are unaware that they are perpetuating the cycle of fear, non-responsibility, blame and victimhood. Imagine what it would be like to drive daily and 100% of the time know that you are creating your reality, know that everything that happens to you is created by you for a very specific reason. If you get into an automobile accident, if you hit someone, you take responsibility for it. Even if you are hit from behind, for instance, you recognize that it is within your reality only because you have drawn it there.

Imagine a society that holds these beliefs. It would have no victimhood; it would be a society totally willing to take responsibility for everything that happens to it. You are working toward this, but because you have not recognized the trap you have set up for yourself, it is almost as if you are running on a treadmill trying to get down the street. Once you recognize how deep is the structure you've created, you will be able to start actively changing it.
Anger Is Not Taking Responsibility
Some of you have already been doing this. However, some of the ways you are trying to change it, to get out of the structure, are really dragging you deeper into it. Let's say you have someone who studies the Constitution and realizes that there is a contradiction between what was set up and what is going on now. Let's say this person has a lot of victimhood energy. They become angry about the situation and because they are not willing to look at the source of their anger - their own inner victimhood, their own relinquishment of their sovereignty - they externalize the victimization and see the system as the perpetrator.

You then have someone who is angry and decides they're going to buck the system. Let's say they refuse to register their car, get automobile insurance or a drivers license. In their anger, their intent is to make a statement - to cause trouble. This creates resistance toward the very structure they are struggling to pull away from. All it does is balance the intensity of the structure. It will not free them but keep them chained to it. The person never looks at the real reason for the anger - the relinquishment of personal sovereignty - but instead blames that loss on someone else. You can never be sovereign if you blame anyone else for anything. And whenever you do, the structure is kept in place.

There are many individuals on your planet who feel they are engaged in good causes when they are acting in anger. But we tell you that anger will never solve the structural challenges of your society. It can never break the structure. The question is, what will break the structure? First an intelligent understanding of the structure itself, why it was created and how it is kept in place. After that it will be necessary to process any anger, martyrdom or victimhood that you feel, and be willing to act from your own integrity - not from anger or an intent to make a statement, but because it's the only thing you can do in your integrity.


The structures on your planet are in place and you're struggling against them to change them, but you can't see what you're struggling against. The challenge now is to begin, in the darkness, to make out the shape that you have created to enslave yourself. We cannot express to you how powerful the changes will be on your planet when you begin relinquishing these old structures. You will do this layer by layer. Sometimes you may think you're at the end, but there will be another five layers to go. It's a very deep process you've created to protect yourself, believing that you yourselves need to be taken care of, protected,There are people at present who are starting to hear the voice of their conscience, who are processing their victimhood, who are beginning to see the true nature of the structure and how it was put there. And when they realize this in their own conscience, they can no longer keep it intact. They must follow their own integrity. In that choice to follow integrity - cleanly, clearly, with no anger - the structure begins to change. The issue is not the structure that is enslaving you, but the fact that you have allowed it to enslave you. If you can begin to understand why you've allowed this, why you've forgotten you put it here to begin with, then true sovereignty is right around the corner. Comments?

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http://www.galactic-server.com/plane...vereignty.html

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Well I'll be honest I want to bump this thread. I'll do it by quoting that awesome bit above...

Pleiadian Philosophy - 100% Responsibility

and

There are never any victims.

Wow.

I just re-read this whole thread. It was awesome all over again.

A..

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Once again, I enjoyed this thread. I really liked this little comment made by Theresa, it says it all with few words...

Namaste, Steven

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I started to read this thread just now, and the tittle really struck me as this is the key of being in control of our lives. With that said, as I have not much time to go and post my views, and because someone else has more eloquently put forward this knowledge, I would encourage you all to listen to the 3 videos that are posted in the following link:


http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth.htm


There is great deal of good information here and steps of what we can do as to how keep our Sovereignty alive and well, specially the one called Creativity 'V' Control, but all are good


Love and Learning in Peace



Roland

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This is a fantastic thread peace4gaia, some awesome work is being done in the u.k. on -
www.thetruthwillout.com
www.tpuc.org
www.lawfulrebellion.org
These are all really really good sites, full of good info, much of the same that has already been put, but obviously the proof is in the pudding
just say NO and mean NO haha
marc stevens is also a good source of infomation.

peace and love to all

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I have been posting on thinkfree forum and here are some threads and links to get off the grid…

private contract template (for work/income contracts)
http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=2414

Soverign ID card
http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10329

generating non-government wealth idea
http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10248

understanding Social Security system and definitions
http://llstuler.wordpress.com/

alternative money system
http://hourmoney.org/

food/diet alternative
http://www.openfilm.com/videos/real_n_raw/
http://www.bluestarprophecy.com/foru.../page-2/#p1193
http://ooooby.ning.com/

Human rights (adopted by United Nations)
http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/i..._abridged.html

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I attempted to register to the forum but could not get past the almost unreadable confirmation code and got timed out. Please advise, thank you.