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TruthWalker 12-16-2009 01:38 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leunamros (Post 201653)
shut up, troll.

I rest my case.

lucrum 12-16-2009 01:41 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201644)
I agree with the essence of your response, but I must argue that it isn't a waste of time to make a thread about this. It is productive. It is beneficial to keep all this kind of discussion in a separate thread, meant for the topic -- rather than all over the forum in amongst various posts. This way, everyone can offer their view and say what they need to say -- and you've just said a whole lot, which underscores my reasoning.

I'll rephrase my statement slightly:

I have yet to see any forum I've been to where open discussion about these issues have ever lead to resolve.
So while there indeed might be a good use of time, history shows it not to be.

So question is, will this end up as a huge post eventually locked by mods because no one really bothers to read the whole thing and everyone ends up doing the same remarks over and over again? Or will we sometime in the near future see a stream of general acceptance to differences flow into these forums and calm things down?

I'd prefer the latter, but it's not very realistic at this point in my opinion.

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucrum (Post 201659)
I'll rephrase my statement slightly:

I have yet to see any forum I've been to where open discussion about these issues have ever lead to resolve.
So while there indeed might be a good use of time, history shows it not to be.

So question is, will this end up as a huge post eventually locked by mods because no one really bothers to read the whole thing and everyone ends up doing the same remarks over and over again? Or will we sometime in the near future see a stream of general acceptance to differences flow into these forums and calm things down?

I'd prefer the latter, but it's not very realistic at this point in my opinion.

My best guess is that it will be "eventually locked by mods because no one really bothers to read the whole thing and everyone ends up doing the same remarks over and over again"..

..but just because it's hard to be a lone voice of reason, it doesn't mean I shouldn't try. I do believe that if I keep trying this week, this month, next month, and again and again.. eventually something will be done. So if it isn't fixed this time, that's the way it's going to have to be.

I'm not giving up. I like this forum. I like the topics. I like the effort. But I can't participate amongst so much mockery, jokes, insincerity and vitriol. So, anything I have to say is largely on hold until it's fixed. If that takes 7 years, well it takes 7 years.

beren 12-16-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
I will copy -paste my responce from your other thread.


For God´´s sake man! I-G-N-O-R-E people who are mocking you and get to the point!

You are starting to stress me out!

I am afraid if you continue to bicker around with others( you too -others) I will not listen you, even if it may be THE most important message you might have on this Earth.

Leave them be , start a thread and conversate, but know that if one is not aligned with you , who gives you the right to shut them up?

I do not agree with many here but I do not shut people up!
It is not fair. Give them chance even if they mock you, slowly they will see or have a nice chat with you.

YOu re not helping with this attitude no matter how good you are or what info you have.

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beren (Post 201668)
I will copy -paste my responce from your other thread.


For God´´s sake man! I-G-N-O-R-E people who are mocking you and get to the point!

You are starting to stress me out!

I am afraid if you continue to bicker around with others( you too -others) I will not listen you, even if it may be THE most important message you might have on this Earth.

Leave them be , start a thread and conversate, but know that if one is not aligned with you , who gives you the right to shut them up?

I do not agree with many here but I do not shut people up!
It is not fair. Give them chance even if they mock you, slowly they will see or have a nice chat with you.

YOu re not helping with this attitude no matter how good you are or what info you have.

I have no wish to shut anyone up.

Nowhere on this forum have I demonstrated any view that could even be remotely connected to a wish for people not to be able to have their say.

I sincerely do not believe you understand the problem.

Further, I am not displaying an attitude. I am being reasonable and fair.

What I am requesting is reasonable and fair.

beren 12-16-2009 02:12 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201672)
I have no wish to shut anyone up.

Nowhere on this forum have I demonstrated any view that could even be remotely connected to a wish for people not to be able to have their say.

I sincerely do not believe you understand the problem.

Further, I am not displaying an attitude. I am being reasonable and fair.

What I am requesting is reasonable and fair.


Ok then, but what about this;

I noticed when someone replies to your thread and ,say, supports Billy Meier.

Or answers other stuff, then you jump in and cut off that person with your blunt statement about their reply. What happens next?

People get offended since you cut them off with your blunt reply which may or may not be true.

Communication is two way street.
My self, I heard about Billy Meier a year ago , looked his photos and I do not trust him. But that is my opinion. I do not go around and yell Billy is a clown or fake or whatever. Let people do fact checking and decide for themselves, I can not and will not persuade anyone into anyting.

But you then , you just use your shears and cut out !
How on earth you think you will be taken seriously and listened when you do that?

You have to allow people to have their say, then together search for answers, even if you know the facts, others may not know them.
We are not robots and YES SIR folks. We have emotions and we do need to process them in order to shed old learning and to get to the truth.
It is a painful process. It takes time. You do not cut someone´s leg if you find it sick. You try to heal it ,burture it and at the end if there is no other solution , you cut it to save the man.

Do not cut legs here Truthwalker,

P.S.
Jesus was not doing that...

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beren (Post 201684)
Ok then, but what about this;

I noticed when someone replies to your thread and ,say, supports Billy Meier.

Or answers other stuff, then you jump in and cut off that person with your blunt statement about their reply. What happens next?

People get offended since you cut them off with your blunt reply which may or may not be true.

Communication is two way street.
My self, I heard about Billy Meier a year ago , looked his photos and I do not trust him. But that is my opinion. I do not go around and yell Billy is a clown or fake or whatever. Let people do fact checking and decide for themselves, I can not and will not persuade anyone into anyting.

But you then , you just use your shears and cut out !
How on earth you think you will be taken seriously and listened when you do that?

You have to allow people to have their say, then together search for answers, even if you know the facts, others may not know them.
We are not robots and YES SIR folks. We have emotions and we do need to process them in order to shed old learning and to get to the truth.
It is a painful process. It takes time. You do not cut someone´s leg if you find it sick. You try to heal it ,burture it and at the end if there is no other solution , you cut it to save the man.

Do not cut legs here Truthwalker,

P.S.
Jesus was not doing that...

If someone is asking a question to be smart, I don't see the need to spend my time replying to them. I only reply to genuine responses.

You are turning this thread into an argument. I am no longer going to respond to you, also, if you don't stop littering this thread with unfounded and incorrect accusations.

If you do it again the response will be:

*ignored*

Tango 12-16-2009 02:31 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Truthwalker... I've read and I've read... I don't think I've seen anything of Substance
that you have Posted. Most of your excellent writing it seems has been
disruptive and distracting to members of this forum. I do NOT wish to engage
you.

But, in MY eye's you will NOT instruct our Mods. Now, I may have been a
little harsh in the past... [But, I don't think so...] I ask that You take a step
back... collect your thoughts... You've seen how it works on other threads.

Post something of interest to the Forum... With the clear intent of delivery of
your message/Story/interests. Or, its NOT going to work. And, you will be gone.

But, you may have a point to your posts [I haven't seen it yet] other than
disruption. And, to insult Brook, well that's reason for you to be gone Right
there, in My eye's... Fore she has brought some outstanding threads and she
sure does Not need me to defend her.

But, I, SEE substance to BROOKS posts... And, Humor when it is needed...

Like I said... I DO NOT want to engage you.... But, I will for the Community.



Trooly,


Tango



Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201590)
Can you just go away and give up your mission to prove to me that I'm some sort of runaway nut? I am posting ALL of this for GOOD reasons which extend back more than six months!

Brook has done nothing but post insult after insult after sarcasm riddled insult. Mentioning her name isn't going to help what ever case you think you're trying to make.


TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:33 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango (Post 201707)
Truthwalker... I've read and I've read... I don't think I've seen anything of Substance
that you have Posted. Most of your excellent writing it seems has been
disruptive and distracting to members of this forum. I do NOT wish to engage
you.

But, in MY eye's you will NOT instruct our Mods. Now, I may have been a
little harsh in the past... [But, I don't think so...] I ask that You take a step
back... collect your thoughts... You've seen how it works on other threads.

Post something of interest to the Forum... With the clear intent of delivery of
your message/Story/interests. Or, its NOT going to work. And, you will be gone.

But, you may have a point to your posts [I haven't seen it yet] other than
disruption. And, to insult Brook, well that's reason for you to be gone Right
there, in My eye's... Fore she has brought some outstanding threads and she
sure does Not need me to defend her.

But, I, SEE substance to BROOKS posts... And, Humor when it is needed...

Like I said... I DO NOT want to engage you.... But, I will for the Community.



Trooly,


Tango

Ah, Tango, the one who spends his time running around the forum (incorrectly, and vitreously) accusing everyone of being agents. So much that he had to be banned.

Your advice means nothing to me. You're one of the trouble makers.

Ignored.

mudra 12-16-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
"Men of wit and understanding convert a stone lying on the ground into a stepping stone, while men devoid of common sense turn even a stepping stone into a stumbling block on their way. In life, it is the way of looking at things that matters."

- Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh in "Wings of Love and Random Thoughts

Peace
mudra

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:39 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 201715)
"Men of wit and understanding convert a stone lying on the ground into a stepping stone, while men devoid of common sense turn even a stepping stone into a stumbling block on their way. In life, it is the way of looking at things that matters."

- Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh in "Wings of Love and Random Thoughts

Peace
mudra

Just like men of wit and understanding convert information into understanding, while man devoid of common sense turns even truth handed on a platter into big argument?

burgundia 12-16-2009 02:42 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
i will feed you a bit here....

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TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:43 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 201719)
i will feed you a bit here....

ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,bl e,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble,ble, ble, ble, ble, ble
ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,bl e,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble, ble,ble, ble, ble, ble, ble...and a glass of milk...:original:

Unconstructive post.

Céline 12-16-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
I so want to read your "story" yet you never share it...

tell me...is it more important to you to be right then happy?

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Céline (Post 201721)
I so want to read your "story" yet you never share it...

tell me...is it more important to you to be right then happy?

I have absolutely no idea what on earth you're talking about.

Céline 12-16-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
are you having trouble reading my post?

what is more important to you...being happy or being right?

sunny D 12-16-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Why don't you start a private forum of your own. Be your own mod, make your own threads, and talk to your own alter ego's........??

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunny D (Post 201725)
Why don't you start a private forum of your own. Be your own mod, make your own threads, and talk to your own alter ego's........??

Unconstructive. Unnecessarily mean.

burgundia 12-16-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
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TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 201730)
:original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original::original: :original::original::original::original:

Spam. Pointless.

burgundia 12-16-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
:mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_ omg::mfr_omg:

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 201734)
:mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_ omg::mfr_omg:

Pointless spam again.

burgundia 12-16-2009 02:53 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
:wub2::serenade:

Kinsuemei2 12-16-2009 02:55 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
yeah "truth"walker, perhaps you need a lesson in basic HTML coding because I have your IP and your MAC adress, Warror....oh I meant M.... oh yeah right TRUTHWALKER, maybe the moderators can give you a pair of red boots and a cape and you can fly all over the forum world spreading your infinite wisdom.

Wait let me get this one TW

The above comment is off topic, and nonconstructive....

BROOK 12-16-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201597)
Well, I couldn't disagree more. Brook is one of the forums most colorfully dressed jesters who has barely contributed anything worthwhile in any of my posts except mockery and jokes (at my expense - making her quite nasty).

I'm a jester am I? Here is something i wrote about myself...pretty funny stuff.

When you can bear your soul is such fashion, and contribute something of substance ...you may gain a little respect. Until the...your full of hot are.
Laugh your rear end off at this...I'm sure you will find a way to belittle it.

Who am I?

I am not a whistle blower, or an abductee. I have written no books on spirituality. I am not able to see in the future. I have never had any tell me I'm of another dimension or remember me from another life.

Do I know these things are real?..yes I do..why? because the truth can resonate within my very being. As I'm sure it does with all here. Otherwise, why would we be here.

Today I was brought to tears....why? Because I understood today there are so many hurdles mankind has to jump to get to the finish line..and collect the grand prize.

I long for the day we can stand in front of each other and say we won. We worked out daily, strive to be the best. Not another in the universe can touch what we have....and what is that grand prize?

ridding Mans inhumanity to man....and creating unity, love of mankind and universal compassion .

the day will come..make no mistake of that...it will come...

However...today I got just another taste of what we have to overcome to create that prize. We are fighting an illusion that was created to enslave us in our own passion for humanity...

Today I felt the pain of someone who believes what has created the killing and wars was the very lie used to manipulate us to fight such a war.

The mass illusion that one group of people can create such a thing..when in truth it is a rather small group..using us to fight ourselves. Enslave us to do their dirty work in the name of freedom, in the name of God, in the name of justice.

Who am I? I'm a mother of three sons, and one grandchild. I'm a musician, I'm the one you pass at the market when shopping...I cry at sad movies, and happy endings. I'm the one you honk at at the traffic light because I'm changing the radio station and not paying attention to the light. I'm the one who can't stand to see the starving children in deprived countries. I'm the one who stood by and watched the twin towers fall in disbelief. I'm the one who watched the United States go to war for the sake of oil and power. I'm the one who woke up to the fact that it is all an illusion...one created to use us against each other.

I'm the one who want's to wake up and find that the illusion is over..that mankind stood up and said ...we are through with your lies...we want only the truth and nothing else will be acceptable. We will stop working your war machine...we want nothing to do with your power agendas. we want to see the starvation end, and the suffering ended. We want the children to be nothing but loved. We hold our future dear to us and will not accept your blaintent lies. we don't care about your boarders...we care about our neighbors...we send them love. We bless them with kindness and giving. We will rebuild our future with strength of compassion. Hate is not a word we use in our vocabulary. Giving is our key to success.

Then and only then will the tears I shed today turn tears of joy. Then mankind can collect the grand prize....the universal prize of humanity shedding it's mask of animal behavior.....and we will be able to join the ranks of Sharing universal love of humanity and creation throughout the universe.



THE eXchanger 12-16-2009 03:01 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
most of your controllers,
are very dark things, that are tangled up
in your higher densities/and, higher dimensions
and, that is, what is making you act, the way you do

you see, the whole world is at war with you
or, against you ~ lets face it, everyone came here for a challenge
of one sort, or another

you are like an idealist - you believe you know,
how to live in an ideal world - you believe, you have all the answers,
and, everyone should line up and, do it, your way
then, everything will be ideal

we do NOT live in an 'ideal' world

the reason this world, is, as, it is

is due to 'major imprinting' of others
(ironically some of us, did things/and, supported the wrong things,
sometimes, out of NO choice, but, to survive
in past incarnations)

a lot of the heat, is
related very strongly to 'bible' and, 'church' dogma

why is it only the christian faiths,
that try to stick 'the bible' down others throats ???

likely because their numbers, are severing dwindling
as, people tune in,
kind of like, as kids, of the 50's
we tuned into GET SMART at 5;00pm
and/or Twilight Zone at 7;00pm

NOW, THE TV'S are off www.projectavalon.net is on

NOW it is THE "GET SMART" PROGRAM of the 21st century !!!

love/susan
the eXchanger

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 03:01 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 201745)
I'm a jester am I? Here is something i wrote about myself...pretty funny stuff.

When you can bear your soul is such fashion, and contribute something of substance ...you may gain a little respect. Until the...your full of hot are.
Laugh your rear end off at this...I'm sure you will find a way to belittle it.

Who am I?

I am not a whistle blower, or an abductee. I have written no books on spirituality. I am not able to see in the future. I have never had any tell me I'm of another dimension or remember me from another life.

Do I know these things are real?..yes I do..why? because the truth can resonate within my very being. As I'm sure it does with all here. Otherwise, why would we be here.

Today I was brought to tears....why? Because I understood today there are so many hurdles mankind has to jump to get to the finish line..and collect the grand prize.

I long for the day we can stand in front of each other and say we won. We worked out daily, strive to be the best. Not another in the universe can touch what we have....and what is that grand prize?

ridding Mans inhumanity to man....and creating unity, love of mankind and universal compassion .

the day will come..make no mistake of that...it will come...

However...today I got just another taste of what we have to overcome to create that prize. We are fighting an illusion that was created to enslave us in our own passion for humanity...

Today I felt the pain of someone who believes what has created the killing and wars was the very lie used to manipulate us to fight such a war.

The mass illusion that one group of people can create such a thing..when in truth it is a rather small group..using us to fight ourselves. Enslave us to do their dirty work in the name of freedom, in the name of God, in the name of justice.

Who am I? I'm a mother of three sons, and one grandchild. I'm a musician, I'm the one you pass at the market when shopping...I cry at sad movies, and happy endings. I'm the one you honk at at the traffic light because I'm changing the radio station and not paying attention to the light. I'm the one who can't stand to see the starving children in deprived countries. I'm the one who stood by and watched the twin towers fall in disbelief. I'm the one who watched the United States go to war for the sake of oil and power. I'm the one who woke up to the fact that it is all an illusion...one created to use us against each other.

I'm the one who want's to wake up and find that the illusion is over..that mankind stood up and said ...we are through with your lies...we want only the truth and nothing else will be acceptable. We will stop working your war machine...we want nothing to do with your power agendas. we want to see the starvation end, and the suffering ended. We want the children to be nothing but loved. We hold our future dear to us and will not accept your blaintent lies. we don't care about your boarders...we care about our neighbors...we send them love. We bless them with kindness and giving. We will rebuild our future with strength of compassion. Hate is not a word we use in our vocabulary. Giving is our key to success.

Then and only then will the tears I shed today turn tears of joy. Then mankind can collect the grand prize....the universal prize of humanity shedding it's mask of animal behavior.....and we will be able to join the ranks of Sharing universal love of humanity and creation throughout the universe.



I agree with pretty much everything you wrote above. I also share the same concerns. Thank you for sharing it.

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 03:02 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinsuemei2 (Post 201743)
yeah "truth"walker, perhaps you need a lesson in basic HTML coding because I have your IP and your MAC adress, Warror....oh I meant M.... oh yeah right TRUTHWALKER, maybe the moderators can give you a pair of red boots and a cape and you can fly all over the forum world spreading your infinite wisdom.

Wait let me get this one TW

The above comment is off topic, and nonconstructive....

It is off topic and unconstructive -- and also funny.

BROOK 12-16-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Coming from a jester? or how about a talking about a little existential Freedom.....Jester that I am this should be really funny stuff

Some of the stuff I have contributed of the over 2600 posts here..that you have decided is such a problem here

Freedom and Responsibility

Freedom, from an existential perspective, cannot be separated from responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Yet, it is common for many people to seek freedom while trying to avoid responsibility. While, at times, it appears that people may be able to succeed at this, there remains a psychological consequence. This consequence is often not very noticeable, but may find expression through guilt, anxiety, depression, or even anger.

Existential freedom is not the same things as freedom in the political sense we often think of it in America. In fact, political freedom could be view to be a rather shallow, though not unimportant, type of freedom. A person can be existentially free despite not being politically free, and a person can avoid embracing their existential freedom despite being offered great political freedoms.


Ways of Avoiding Responsibility

There are several common examples of how people avoid responsibility in American culture. Conformity is one good example. Americans pride themselves on being autonomous individuals to the point of idealizing individualism. However, upon closer analysis, Americans find extremely creative ways of giving up their freedom. Americans conform through blind allegiance to various organizations and institutions including political parties and religious institutions. This is not to say that being dedicated to either of these are bad. In fact, often they can lead to very positive outcomes. The problem comes with blind allegiance where a person gives up their responsibility to critically think through the beliefs, perspectives, and values of the organization. When this happens, the individual's values are no longer authentic.

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.


TruthWalker 12-16-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 201749)
most of your controllers,
are very dark things, that are tangled up
in your higher densities/and, higher dimensions
and, that is, what is making you act, the way you do

you see, the whole world is at war with you
or, against you ~ lets face it, everyone came here for a challenge
of one sort, or another

you are like an idealist - you believe you know,
how to live in an ideal world - you believe, you have all the answers,
and, everyone should line up and, do it, your way
then, everything will be ideal

we do NOT live in an 'ideal' world

the reason this world, is, as, it is

is due to 'major imprinting' of others
(ironically some of us, did things/and, supported the wrong things,
sometimes, out of NO choice, but, to survive
in past incarnations)

a lot of the heat, is
related very strongly to 'bible' and, 'church' dogma

why is it only the christian faiths,
that try to stick 'the bible' down others throats ???

likely because their numbers, are severing dwindling
as, people tune in,
like me did as kids, at 5;00pm
to GET SMART

NOW, THE TV'S are off www.projectavalon.net

is THE GET SMART PROGRAM of the 21st century !!!

love/susan
the eXchanger

You do not know who I am, or anything about me, or why I am here.

You do not know about any way that I "act".

No one on this forum knows anything about me whatsoever.

No one will know anything until it becomes an appropriate place to share information without stupidity.

Seashore 12-16-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
TruthWalker,

I think that you have a lot to offer, and if you would add a pinch of humility to your act, you'll do great here on the forum. My humble opinion.

Tango 12-16-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
I respectfully request that this thread be closed.....

That the member: truthwalker be removed and his threads be deleted...

Enough is Enough...


Verry trooly,


Tango

burgundia 12-16-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
:huglove:

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 201753)
Coming from a jester? or how about a talking about a little existential Freedom.....Jester that I am this should be really funny stuff

Some of the stuff I have contributed of the over 2600 posts here..that you have decided is such a problem here

Freedom and Responsibility

Freedom, from an existential perspective, cannot be separated from responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Yet, it is common for many people to seek freedom while trying to avoid responsibility. While, at times, it appears that people may be able to succeed at this, there remains a psychological consequence. This consequence is often not very noticeable, but may find expression through guilt, anxiety, depression, or even anger.

Existential freedom is not the same things as freedom in the political sense we often think of it in America. In fact, political freedom could be view to be a rather shallow, though not unimportant, type of freedom. A person can be existentially free despite not being politically free, and a person can avoid embracing their existential freedom despite being offered great political freedoms.


Ways of Avoiding Responsibility

There are several common examples of how people avoid responsibility in American culture. Conformity is one good example. Americans pride themselves on being autonomous individuals to the point of idealizing individualism. However, upon closer analysis, Americans find extremely creative ways of giving up their freedom. Americans conform through blind allegiance to various organizations and institutions including political parties and religious institutions. This is not to say that being dedicated to either of these are bad. In fact, often they can lead to very positive outcomes. The problem comes with blind allegiance where a person gives up their responsibility to critically think through the beliefs, perspectives, and values of the organization. When this happens, the individual's values are no longer authentic.

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.


Brook, what you posted elsewhere makes no difference to me -- when to "me" you've done nothing but stir the pot. Yes, you have acted exactly like a jester. You want respect from me? Just stop being mean and making jokes at my expense. Problem solved. No need to quote posts to demonstrate that you're "really better" than the way you've been behaving to me. You want me to believe it? Show it.

JesterTerrestrial 12-16-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201549)

THIS FORUM NEEDS ME!

Hey again.

I AM A JESTER HERE

I still dont believe you.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING REAL TO SAY?

PROVE IT. BY SAYING IT.


Quote:

I have absolutely no idea what on earth you're talking about.
and the same goes for you. Why don't you flap your arms up and down...and write 500 paragraphs about how much you suck at life?

Go ahead throw in some one line response...like how much you just want to stay on topic or whatever. If your OP had any substance other then you crying you might get some intelligent responses. But it dose not.


GOODBYE

YOUR OFF THE TEAM!!!


Have a great day! :thumb_yello:

TruthWalker 12-16-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango (Post 201756)
I respectfully request that this thread be closed.....

That the member: truthwalker be removed and his threads be deleted...

Enough is Enough...


Verry trooly,


Tango

Off topic. Mean. Ignorant. Ignored.

This is all I ever hear you saying..

Céline 12-16-2009 03:10 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango (Post 201756)
I respectfully request that this thread be closed.....

That the member: truthwalker be removed and his threads be deleted...

Enough is Enough...


Verry trooly,


Tango

i second that vote

burgundia 12-16-2009 03:10 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
http://bbsmith.tripod.com/food/chocolate3-2.jpg
:wub2:

BROOK 12-16-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201759)
Brook, what you posted elsewhere makes no difference to me -- when to "me" you've done nothing but stir the pot. Yes, you have acted exactly like a jester. You want respect from me? Just stop being mean and making jokes at my expense. Problem solved. No need to quote posts to demonstrate that you're "really better" than the way you've been behaving to me. You want me to believe it? Show it.

I don't seek your respect. Respect is something that is earned. I have the respect of the forum members here...becuase I have earned it. Can you say the same?

Unified Serenity 12-16-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Proof that I am not an Agent, Troll or Energy Vampire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker (Post 201566)
I will drop all of this and begin posting on the forum as a constructive member when all the jesters are shown a seat.

I look forward to your continued silence then TW. I say what I want to say regardless of who agrees or disagrees with me. I don't say anything with an ulterior motive, and if it resonates with some fine, if not that's fine too.

I really do think it is laughable that you seem to be whining about people not being made to behave. There is a wonderful feature called the "IGNORE" button. I have used it twice on two members whom I would rather not hear a peep out of. One of them is a very well liked member here whom I just react to like oil on water, so I put them on iggy and they are welcome to put me on iggy. We have never had cross words with one another, but I chose to ignore them.

I suggest you might consider doing the same to me or anyone else whom you deem to not contribute to your threads.

May you reap what you sow,


Unified Serenity


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