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There is not a military or police force in the world big enough to take on the American people. Every one of them know this nation would be bloodied inch by inch with their own blood. The only way for a government to take on the American people would be to nuke us. We are a nation of peaceful warriors. Were civil war to happen, in the words of Admiral Yamamoto, who bombed Pearl Harbor but did not want to, "We have awakened a sleeping lion." Keep the faith. Love and Peace.
Greg

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And now a new dimension has opened, this is one nation under God and many of us are lighting up with the strength to go head to head with the most powerful of the Illuminati, the difference is, we know who they are and where to concentrate our energies against them.

Many of us are in direct communications with ETs that have promised to step in when they are needed...

The current powers have no clue of the strength they are going to be up against...

I have delivered 3 messages that have been followed by disasters of Biblical proportions.

This is a Spiritual Battle, and the Earth Angels are raising their swords, prepared for this coming battle...

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I have connected with both Bush and Putin, and neither man is evil or wants the world to escalate to Nuclear war. Putin has made a quick cold world build-up just to let the powers that be know if the move happens it will be painful.

Two players in this mess are wicked and I am unable to touch the heart of either because of the darkness surrounding them. The Grande Ayasolla from Iran and Chavez.

Those of you who know how to share the light, need to concentrate on both of them to break them free from the binds keeping them from being touched by the light.

I think if we get through to both of them, that this will all be over...

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I kind of think you'd be focussing on the wrong end of the spectrum with those two. There are bigger fish out there, like Bush Sr. & Cheney for starters. :winksmiley02:

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Thank you! lol

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one is too old to worry about the other just wants to sell weapons...

I've already looked into Cheney, he's powered by greed but isn't surrounded by darkness...

I visited him at time of his heart problems... he's not one to worry about.

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I was on the water several hundred yards from him when he was hooked while out fishing. Back then he was powerful, but let down his defenses when he was injured. That was my first awakening that not all American's have halos...

He's too weak to be a part of the upcoming battle...

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This is the reason why the second amendment must remain in place. Even though I personally hate guns, I cannot justify dis-arming the population as a whole because it removes the ability to fight back in nightmare scenarios, such as the one mentioned in this thread.

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yes i belive so ... it all depend if the have a inplante or a frequence that will affete there jugement

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From the horses mouth:

SBN: 06-080332-0
Harper & Row, Publishers
Aleksanderl. Solzhenitsyn The Gulag Archipeago

Chapter 1, Arrest, Page 13, subnote 5 (To be complete.)

"And how we burned in the camps later, Thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the city, people had not simply sat there in their liars, paling with terror at every bang of the down-stairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose . And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroath. Or what about the black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur-- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quicky have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have groud to a halt!"

May his soul experience infinity in peace.

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As much as I'm afraid of them coming after us to put us in their FEMA camps I also see they are outnumbered by how many American people there are. And will all of the cops and soldiers obey orders if it came down to this? I even ask that about foriegn troops. Why would all of a sudden droves of cops and soldiers round us up and put us in Nazi camps? For what? What did WE do? :shocked:

In that case I think that the entire World would want the Gov rounded up, and the NWO rounded up instead because they are responsible. WTF have the American people done to be put in concentration camps???

I know what the NWO wants to do, but they need to justify it to their trained soldiers to have it carried out. Yes there are numerous bad cops and soldiers BUT there are good ones too that when it comes down to it will see the heinousness of it all and will not comply.

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The way I am reading it, they will. Yes there are many foreign military in the USA. Lots of them are underground. But they will when it comes down to you or I. YES Our military is already training men and woman from other countries. Nothing surprises me anymore

When the holocaust was pulled off, hitler was handed the military personel... He never pulled that off himself and that fast. Those people were starved to death just as to what happened in Africa and other places. This is not new. So you see the illuminati'd never go into it half blind. The military gets big bonuses to fight us but death to them and their family if they don't. Look at what black water gets paid daily? Our own military personel's that are involved get 4 to 5 thousand a month. GREED

The cops that are in my family are all eagar to join. They get a kick out of making us suffer. Do I sound Cruel? No, I have just seen too much.

So yes, when the s..t hits the fan. They will turn on their own family. its live or die.

Just my opinion :mad3:

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If every police officer in the country got together they could not win a battle against the 13,000 gang members in LA alone...

They are held to a higher standard and can't just start blowing up homes to get the one person causing the problems.

Once they crossed the line of decency, the public would rise up beside the gangs...

I'm afraid all of this has already been decided in a think tank, their only choice would be unleash a deadly virus to knock down the population and make all of us think they are picking us up to help...

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Theoretically, police officers are public citizens that have been sworn to uphold the laws and the Constitution of their respective states/counties and the United States as well.

Who's to say that they wouldn't want to protect their own interests (family, not as sinister as some think) and refuse to follow orders in time of chaos?

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It would be nice if they would join sides with us

I:biggrin2:

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I wouldn't give it a second thought, they already have...

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I don't think that we will be fighting our own troops, i think that we will be fighting the UN troops and more than likely they will be from that hate us. The UN is already guarding our national forests from us.

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Yes. I agree eXchanger. As the earth's vibration rises, the old paradigm will disintegrate. Cops turning on the people in their communities? Sure. Look at the military. They implement horrors on other men, women and children, simply because they are told to do it. Do you think the police are any different? Look at what they are doing now with their tasers! These people (if they are human at all) are so dumbed down and programmed they no longer have the capacity to think and reason right from wrong. There is only the orders and the agenda that comes from the one paying them. I'd really like to believe in the good will of humanity and all that but just an observation of the daily news tells me otherwise. I like eXchangers comments here in that it is like a cancer that will destroy itself as it fights for it's own survival. They will take themselves out, because they don't go the way of the divine path which is love, allowance and freedom. I believe that most of the 'people' in those postitions are probably clones anyway. What human being who is connected to his/her source carry out such atrocitities on order for a paycheck?

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you present a logical observation however, you have not taken into consideration that there are ALSO very .. .very large, sophisticated, well trained, and well armed PRIVATIZED FORCES; among the more notible BLACKWATER. the same privatized mercenary group that were/are employed in the middle east AND were present after hurricane katrina hit. what's concerning about blackwater (and other private forces), is that they are NOT obligated to NOR adhere to the US constitutional or military laws (immunization from prosecution...) . it is quite likely blackwater will ALSO be apart of the forces employed IN the US oct.1st or soon there after. of course people need to remain calm vigilant, and well informed. i've provided links below for those unfamiliar with who and what blackwater forces are.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/368.html (quick overview)

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/174.html (very detailed)

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:welcomeani: tomotoe chip
and, in surprise, arizonia :)
(i want to go there) :mfr_lol:

indeed--most men/and, women,
went home to look after their families:lightsabre:

it is our children, that we are all creating this world for

and, in the present,
the current state of affairs,
it is NOT a gift we are leaving them !!!

instead, unless many turn towards "the light"

and, start a process to re-connect, to eXchange with others, correctly, instead, it would be a mess,
that will be left to them

we must, collectively work together
to reach, those, the 1,000,000 children
(over the years, who have gone missing)
i believe, they form, what is termed "the lost army"
(this is a big topic) one in which,
is very difficult to table

please everyone when we go to bed tonight
ask what i call, YOUR CAPSTONE/your essence
that biggest part of you,
to call out to these "lost ones"...
so, their controllers, can NO longer control them

essence contact, is very powerful--in fact,
it is the grandest tool, that we have !!!

It is so necessary,
that YOUR ORIGINAL SPARK,
be engaged with THIS CAPSTONE/or ESSENCE,
as, i call it ...we can do so much in our dream-time,
i hope to reveal much information, on this very soon

brightest blessings to all

i am susan ~white lotus star
the eXchanger

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view this video --- while it is still on google

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+coverup&hl=en

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I think they will identify anyone who will give them trouble, they will send in a small group fully armored, equiped with ar-15's. If you give them trouble, they will report back and shell your house from a mile away.

I dont think they will screw around with our rights, they will trample them instantly and make a showcase out of troublemakers in a big way.

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When do we stop and realize that we are the creators of what's going to happen? That we have been given this power as it has been discussed in this forum. However, the conversations always revert back to what THEY will do vs. whet WE (I) can do. Si I guess that we continue this way, the assunmption that THEY will turn against us will become true.

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Number one favorite answer in the world


They have already turned

:yikes:

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Our own family and friends are going to turn against us.They will aid in the gathering of those who are independent thinkers when they have no food and water. Not negative just facts. Its already happening.

By the way there have been foreign troops in the US since the 80s. Thousands

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Iluminati reject,
I have heard it said by our own David icke that our policing system in England will join the army and white collar workers civil servents will take their place.
the civil servents are already taking over!
They have been given rights to make arrests on things such as litter bugs,and bad behaviour, drinking in the streets etc;
I'm convinced it has already started in England!

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If this is to pass, they have the Blackwater security to do this for them. it is up to us to avoid this scenario, everyone of us.

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Dunno?, read all the **** and seen some of videos on FEMA Camps. My question was and is, are you sure such camps.. are intended for bread and raised in America-Americans. I ask that as look at WW2.

The Japanese Americans were put into holding facilities. So I wonder if the recently built (Incl DIA) FEMA camps may be for Islamic fundamentalists and others in the extreme, living within the USA?

RSF

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Exactly right, in my opinion.
Also, police are selected based on psychological tests as well as trained using psychological methods.
Police will shoot to kill even when they could subdue someone by shooting them in the leg, for instnce, because they are trained to shoot to kill; they are not trained to wound.
The training is such that the police officer with the gun instinctively follows his training rather than thinking about the individual human being whose life he is about to end.

If any of you have friends or family who are police officers ask them what they would do if they were ever ordered against the people and I bet you they skate around the issue rather than give you a direct answer. The truth is, they will follow orders and, of course, they don't want you to know that in advance.

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Just in a vid with Common Sense about Martial Law.

I am sorry about some shocking words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vulfeAH-MWc

He does make a point there, however, it won't be whole towns that will revolt.
It will only be a couple per 1000 that are radicals..

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Interesting opinion he has.

I disagree with him though. He thinks it is impossible for the govt to enforce it and he is wrong. History has proven it is not only possible but easy.

An old Chinese proverb says, "Kill one to scare a thousand."

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If there is ever to be a revolution or coup, it will come from the country's military services. They understand war, politics, and money. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the campaign contributions made from military personnel were Ron Paul. I feel concerned of course, that we are in violation of the law by requesting that our armed forces act to enforce the law on US soil, but I'm definitely not worried that our military forces would ever fire on the public just to prop up any particular administration. In fact, an administration would have to be insane or at the end of their rope to even issue the order. (oops:badmood:)

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Unfortunatley, I do believe history is against us in this one. Having been trained by the Army I understand that many times the Army and individual units replace Nationality in times of conflict. When fighting, it is for the man next to you, and I believe if a citizen uses force they will be met with overwhelming force, unless they understand how to conduct asymetric Warfare. That is their, (ARMY), advantage. Many citizens will not know when it will be time to go Guns Once you do you have to go all the way and their is no undoing a killing. The Iraqi people are teaching us how to fight technologically superior armies. It is not just The U.S. military that is learning warfare. They are coming to realize the deadly nature of insurgent warfare where death can strike from anywhere at anytime, with or without the enemy present. We have so many ex military in this country that know how to conduct insurgent warfare as well as make IED's and other various weapons such as Napalm amoung others, that any form of civil war here would create catastrophic loses for Military forces. I believe the choice will confront each of us where we will have to choose to die fighting or being killed in a camp or taking an oath to the New World order complete with Mocrochip. I pitty those who choose the latter, certainly it is the death of a thousand cuts. When people buckle, fold or choose the Peaceful way out they enable the behavior that has created the situation. If you understand their end game of Population reduction by some 6 billion people or 90% of the existing population, then you understand they plan on killing you anyway. Think about that, They want to KILL YOU, that is not OKAY, at least not for me. I do enjoy the spirit of the site and it's members, very thoughtful and thought provoking. At the end of the day nothing is set in stone and for now the telephone and internet may be the most powerful weapons in the arsenal. Please contact your Representatives when something doesn't seem right to you in what they are doing. It will help you to know that you exhausted all options should you ever be confronted with such unthinkable scenarios as the ones we are contemplating here on this forum.

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Even if the Military does not go along with these neocons the Air Force is working on a solution that could be available in the near future. here is a link to a small article and a short 5min clip of a bird sized drone capable of murder or deploying bioterror attacks. Seems like the movie blade runner!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7757745.story :lightsabre:

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I don't think they will turn against us, but they would help us. That's why the majority of them are in iraq. held there by intention? The cops would help us.

The forces that are here to be against us would the those loyal to THOSE people. I am guessing black water is one of those groups.

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for example, if there are 9+1 at the centre

then, these guys have guys/or gals around them

and, then, these guys/or gals have guys/or gals around them

and, so on, out about 9 levels of depth

the outer rim, if it turned on the next layer

and, then, that layer turned on, the next layer

and, so on--it would NOT be that hard for them to destroy themselves

already people on the outside edges
(or, the bottom of the pole)
are going to start asking questions

sooner, or later,
a lot of them,
will NOT like the answers

once i was asking guides for info

and, i discovered that many things
follow an 80/20 type of rule

so, if 80% are good
then, only 20% are NOT good

that means, that out of 100 people

80 are good, and, 20 is NOT good

if in the 20% that are not good:
it follows another 80-20 rules

so 16 are NOT that bad, and, only 4 are bad

and, if you reduce it one more time

what are you left with ??? NOT much

CAN ONE evil person
stand on their own alone,
and, for how long

until all the threads of deception,
start to get unraveled

which begs a different question...
how many of you,
actually think this is a war ONLY in 3D ???

because, i believe, that is about the blindest
observation you can make !!!
in these times

anyway-- will it be like atlantis
some leave in shape ships,
while others, go into the sea ???

right NOW, we are seeing the greed cards
right out on the table
many of them, are affecting everyone

ironically, we think, everyone in the world
lives as we do -- when approx 80% of the world
makes less than $5.00/day,
and, are NOT recorded in systems, like we are

that last comment, kind of puts quite an interesting
slant, on what type of an experiment,
we are currently in ...
and, how it is, that,
we live in this world,
where 20% are really rich
and; 20% are really poor,
and, those ones, can look after themselves/
or, get looked after for free...

so, that leaves the group they never counted on

the middle classes

60% -- of this group
about 80% of them are trapped in debt
(paying monthly payments only--
and, unable to escape the mistake they have made,
of buying stuff, before they earned the right to have it)

and, 20% of them,
that are NOT trapped at all
and, pay their full balances monthly,
and, pay them NO interest

it's really quite amazing,
this world we live in,
where many think, everyone else,
lives as, they do,
when, clearly, 80% of the world,
do NOT live, like we do...at all !!!

perhaps, they are the rich ones ???

something to ponder/and, to chew on

(as, i think, i wonder what it might be like
to live in an obscure corner of russia/or china
mongolia, or tibet ) high up on a mountain (grin)

brightest blessings

susan~white lotus star
the eXchanger

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In the beginning yes. Later, no.

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Really?

SWAT team raids mayor, shoots family dog because someone mailed them pot

Cheye Calvo, mayor of DC suburb Berwyn Heights, was raided by a SWAT team after 30lbs of marijuana was delivered to his home. They broke down his door, shot his two black labradors, and interrogated him and his wife as their dogs bled to death.

Turns out Calvo says he had no idea about the package, which was still outside, unopened and perhaps waiting for its real recipient to pick it up. Police say they still had sufficient cause to break in (even though they did not have a "no-knock warrant").

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/07...aids-mayo.html

Killing of Mayor's 2 Dogs Justified, Pr. George's Finds
Officers in Raid Threatened, Sheriff Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090402746.html

The necropsy concluded one dog was shot four times and the other twice, including once in the dog's back legs.

Calvo said the necropsy has bolstered his contention that neither dog was threatening law enforcement officers during the raid and that one dog was shot from behind as he fled into a back room.

A sheriff's department SWAT team and county police narcotics officers burst into the mayor's home July 29 after police intercepted a 32-pound package of marijuana addressed to Trinity Tomsic, Calvo's wife.

Police cleared Calvo and Tomsic of wrongdoing, saying they were victims of a drug smuggling scheme in which drug-filled packages addressed to unsuspecting recipients were intercepted by a FedEx deliveryman.

Botched Sting: Killed With Gun She Was Supposed to Buy
Alone With No Training, a Young Woman Dies Working as Police Informant

No training. A botched drug sting. A dead 23-year-old college graduate.
Rachel Hoffman had to choose between prison or working as an informant.

But authorities in Tallahassee, Fla., have yet to take any action against the police responsible for an undercover operation that led to the death of Rachel Hoffman, a recent graduate of Florida State University.

Police Chief Dennis Jones, interviewed for tonight's 20/20 broadcast, says he does not accept that his department is in any way responsible for the death of the young woman.

"Do we feel responsible? We're responsible for the safety of this community," Jones said, labeling Hoffman a "criminal" because she was caught twice with a baggie of marijuana.

She was told she would get off on the pot charge if she helped in the sting

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5450550

Just google around a bit there are many similar stories.

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As for the military...

Well the PTB have that covered. Most weapons these days are being designed without a pilot or operator


Boeing

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas...1201282344.jpg


British TANARIS

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas...Tanaris_01.jpg


NEURON Revealed at Paris Air Show...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas.../Neuron_01.jpg

Anyone wondered about all those "Black Triangle" UFO's :lmao:

NAVY

Zumwalt Class DDG 1000 destroyer

Only needs 23 people to operate
http://www.raytheon.com/broadcast/DDG_1000_overview.asx


Still feel safe?

:mfr_omg:

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Anyone remember THIS?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_massacre.jpg

The Kent State shootings, also known as the May 4 massacre or Kent State massacre,[2][3][4] occurred at Kent State University in the city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of students by members of the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. Four students were killed and nine others were wounded, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.[5]

Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the American invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a television address on April 30. However, other students who were shot had merely been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.[6][7]

There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of eight million students, and the event further divided the country, at this already socially contentious time, along political lines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings