Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

HI
so what do we do to resolve any disputes, for there will be some evetually be at the very least someone somewhere whom simply does not agree with an individual or even majoraty rule, also do we rewrite the rulebook eg current laws etc and if we do or dont who and how do we enforce them, how do we guarrentee everyone justice, not just how but also to the satisfaction of all concerned

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Gday
after all the comments l have already made l would just like to thank Dark Matter for his complementary evaluation regards one of my postings
Tankyou Dark Matter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Are we all just worried about a storm in a tea cup i wish it where so

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hI
MOST OF MY COMMENTS SO FAR WOULD SUGGEST IM PRIMARILY A MATERIAL GUY WHOM IS LARGELY CONSUMED BY PRACTICAL ISSUES SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF OF ALL AND ANY I WISH TO SHARE SEVERAL MAJORS DREAMS VISIONS THAT IVE HAD THAT HAVE ENTAILED SOME PROPHETIC AND/OR DEEP IMPRESSION/S SOME WITH A REACURRING THEME NOT TO BE CONFUSED BY ANY JUNGIAN ANAOLGIES RATHER HAVING A MORE LITERAL DELINIATION PLEASE DONT READ THEM AND DECIDE THAT WE ARE DOOMED
FIRST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE FOR- THE ENTIRE WEEK PROR TO THE 9/11 EVENT IMMEDIATELLY UPON WAKING IN THE MORNING EVERY DAY IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO 9/11 L SAT ON MY BEDSIDE AND BENEATH ME IN A VISION L WITNESSED AS IS L WERE A GIANT LOOKING DOWN FROM ABOVE I BEHELD A CITY BUILDING SEEMINGLY IN MINATURE WHERE THERE WHERE NUMEROUS PEOPLE VISIBLE IN THE UPPERMOST FLOORS OF THE BUILDING AND FOR REASONS I COULD NOT WORK OUT SOME OF THEM WHERE TRYING TO ESCAPE THE BUILDING FROM THE TOP FLOORS BY USING A LENGTH OF ROPE THAT WAS SIMPLY FAR TOO SHORT EVERY MORNING FOR THAT WEEK L WOULD HAVE THE SAME VISION THE MOMENT I AWOKE YET EACH MORNING THEY WOULD PERFORM THE SAME RITUAL TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM OF HAVING TO SHORT A LENGTH OF ROPE TO ENABLE THEM TO LEAVE THE BUILDING FROM THE TOP FLOORS L DID NOT KNOW WHY THEY WHERE TRYING TO EXIT FROM THE TOP OF THE BUILDING EXTERNALLY ONE MAYBE TWO WERE HOPING TO CLIMB DOWN THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING USING THE ROPE BUT IT SIMPLY WAS TWO SHORT AND ONLY REACHED SEVERAL FLOORS DOWN STILL A LONG WAY FROM THE GROUND TO BE EFFECTIVE YET THE FOLLOWING MORNING THE SAME EVENT OCCURED AND L BEGAN THINKING THE PERSON TRYING TO EXIT THE EXTERNALLY WITH THE ROPE KNEW AS DID SEVERAL OTHERSA LITTLE MORE ABOUT THEIR PLIGHT EACH DAY YET WHERE NOT ABLE TO IMPROVE UPON THE PREVIOUS DAYS FAILED ATTEMPTS L SIMPLY DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS DAILY EVENT IT WAS UNIQUE TO ME BOTH IN ITS MINITURE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS ITS DAILY OCCURANCE THEN THE NIGHT IMMEADIATELLT PRIOR TO THE NEWS BROADCAST OF 9/11 L SAW MYSELF MOMENTARILY DRESSED IN A BLUE SHIRT AND DARK BLUE TROUSERS JUST AS SUDDENLY L FELT MY THROUGHT CUT WITH A CORRESPONDING POOL OF BLOOD AT MY FEET AN EXTREMELY VIVID AND GRAPHIC IMAGE/VISION EVEN FOR ME SO I FELT STRONGLY DRIVEN TO TELL MY DAUGHTER THAT VERY SOON AN EXTREME EVENT IS GOING TO OCCUR EVERYONE KNOWS THE REST

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Ok
the next major dream occured whilst asleep say major because although i did not have any reocurance i awoke almost immediately and have reacalled it many times since often looking at various events in the media so i could calmly reasure myself the dream/prochecy had been forfilled by some event yet ive not been able to give myself that reassurance = now to share it the dream began as some mild yet siily event l was watering a moderately sized limblees tree l realize you will hint maybe its phallic symbology simaltaenously i began to reason my illogical behaviour in light of our current water restrictions also the location although only several kilometers from here was not my aboad allthough my actions would suggest it was l turned my body to face an easterly direction and there was only meters away the sembalance of rising sea waters as though the nearby river had flodded as continued to turn towards the norht l realized that worse floding was occuring there to the piont that the nearby land mass was in fact breaking away dues to the rising sea level yet l did not feel personally threatened by any of this in fact my thoughts where this would be a great opportunity do do some fishing virtually right at my front door the moment later i awoke , im aware of all the jungian/ freudian analogy regards the phallic symbology of the limblees tree and the oceans association with mother etc but what for me was significant was all the media hype presentaion of computer model predictations regards global warning and rising sea levels yet i knew this dream was not saying that to me rather it was the results of severe weather conditions excessive oceanic enchrochments of coastal a region yet evertime i saw local media reorts of severe floding n the east of the stae l would tell myself that was my prophetic dreams expresion yet i remained unconvinced of such due to the eccessiveness presented in the dream that was yet to model itself in the realworld it did not appear to be directlly resulting from a tsunami type of action but the extensiveness and the extreme effects where not immediatelly noticable such as severe land loss being eaten by the ocean was an abuntantly a local feature like i have stated this severe anomaly is yet to occur

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

OK
the next vision l would like to share is a combination of two signifcant changes to the enviroment in this country, Australia. that has no large land based wild predetors neither does it have any significant snowfall except among some sparse mountain ranges and then only seasonly. yet in spite of those current facts, not so long ago l had a persistent coupling of the two. Firstlly l saw vast snow cover with sparse outcrops of trees/vegetation, including the use of horseback as a means of transportation with the very real need to accomadate to the dangers of a unfamiliar landscape and a servere climatic change, if that was not enough, another unplanned for danger had managed to present itself, some irresponsible people had released from captivity numerous large wild cats, both lions and tigers had survived the early cataclisyms that had previously occured suffient numbers as to enble them to self perpetuate and become a real threat towards surviving humanity whom existed in in bleak new world of a real ice age
as for the occuring ice age mans role could be disputed. as for the big cats it was clear that several god dammed zoo keepers realizing the impeding doom occuring around them chose to free numerous exotic species that rightfully l believe should out of consideration for local man been destroyed, instead where provided with freedom by various zookeepers whom cared more for their animals potential survival than they did for what became of the remanants of humanity
The result being the human survivors of the iniatal climatic cataclysms also over time to contend with and sometimes defend against the big cats. although l must say those persons that had survived thus far had little empathy if any, for matters pertaining to the like of contemporary animal welfare persons/organisations, not that they abused their available domestic stock as such but they shared no remorse over any killing of these new players eg lions tigers

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hi
the most recent dream that captured my attention was a a brief, l was facing some local shop fronts that at a place and time of day that usually was abounding with people and commerce, yet in my vision it was not so all the shops were sealed shut, there were no people to be seen anywhere, the only forms of life evident in the places of retail trade that l could see where large numbers of stray dogs, seemingly the resukt of owners that could no longer feed them, and rather than responsably have them put down, large numbers of dogs where left of discarded whom in turn became the remaing signs of life in a location where their where no people to be seen. what woke me from this experience was seeing my own dog a german shepherd to my surprise all in rapid succession l saw my own dog there he place his paw on my chest just as quickly l awoke stunned by the combination of events ld just witnessed

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last one for now.
about six months ago l guess l was asleep yet conscious of events as though a real life event, ld recently read some acticle pertending majors changes that could very well change ordainary peoples options, these changes where not climate changes not warfare yet happening in my local neighboorhood, l was nearby my local business disrtict comprising of various retail shops court house mall shopping centre etc yet not all was normal, l noticed that at an otherwise busy time for shoppers and retails store both, there were instead very few people to be seen and those that we their comprised of only a hand ful of men most in groups of three or so and very few of those too as well unusally so ther were no women to be seen at all, then in the middle of the day l was out of deperation for food i trying to break into a local sports gym to procure what l could in the form of protien supplements ld know them to have, please to paint a clearer picture l dont steal yet for reasons not quite clear to me in the dream their was very little food avaialble when usually the supermarkets have bountiful supplies as well as that for reasons not clear to me in the dream there was not only no food available in the shops but l also had no funds available to buy food either even if it was available, and my general impression was most people were in the same situation as me all of us unprepared for empty shelves at the supermarket as well as no money pay for anything that might be available that woke me with a real shock and drove home to me jsut how unprepaired l am and how vulnerable to any changes in the line of supply

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

RATIONS FOOD SOME SUGGESTED INEXPENSIVE OPTIONS PLUS
gday ok for those with severe budjetry restraints whom would rather eat than starve i offer for some affordable options before l do l must highlight the real possibilty yhat some of us may not be able to escape melb metro ahead of time that said l offer the following suggestions
the immediate and primary purchase you make is cheap large plastic vessels from the like of bunnings for water storage in your current residence do you maths for each person you require a minimum of 2 liters per day just for comsumption as well you are advise to allow up three months supply therfore for one person alone thats a minimum of 180 ltrs of water just fill them directlly from your domestic water outlet eg kitchen tap and store them prefferably out of direct sunlight you will also need to allow youself an additional 500mls per days minimum for the purpose of a cup bath that is in simplr terms a wash cloth that you soak and suds in a cup with soap and water over total body surface then rinse wash cloth in fresh cup of water then rinse of soapy body with same.
the reson for storing persnal water supply for emergency use in case there is a supply problem that doesnt get rectified due to potential anarchy and lose of current services
FOOD
really cheap and capable of sustaining life is oats raw plus tablespoon of honey with water to moisten, just as important you need aproximately 2ltrs of good quality virgin olive oil dosage approximately 1 tblespoon per day other you develop what they terms rabbits desease which can prove fatal
Add to the above approximatelly three large bootles of a mutlivitamin reccomend blackmores brand plus a three rather large bottles actually small tubes of vitamin c which effectivelly prevent any flu virus from turning into influenza or phneumonia to treat use a minimum 3000mg vit C ABD CONTINUE TO SELF DOss for atleast 1 week
ALSO purchase a good 6 to 7 garlic bulbs for garlic is a natural antibotic, also for successful treatment of MRSA which is that flesg eating virus that allready exisrs outside the hospital enviroment as noted by sydney doctors whom recently reported cases occuring in people who had not contact with any hospital MRSA is now the biggest killer of hospital patients in hospitals throughout england and cases increasing throughout the hospital systems in the developed world
FOOD again you also need to various seeds eg mung beans, alfalfa seeds, preferably about 30 kilos that you sprout simply by placeing a palmful in a glass jar with a fine mesh lid you can use womens stocking to make the make the mesh lid and secure it with a rubber band then twice a day you rinse the seeds in the glass jar with a snall quantity of water and leave in the windows sunlight to sprout sprouting seeds will provide you with en enournous ammount of quality living food that is high in nutrient value at a very low outlay
all the above will ensure you survival for the duration of your supplies
IMPORTANT VERY IMPORTANT DO NOT SHARE KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR SUPPLIES WITH ANYONE NOT YOUR NEIGHBOOR NOT YOUR VISITORS NOBODY AT ALL IF THE PROVERBIAL S** T HITS THE FAN YOU WILL BE KILLED FOR YOUR SUPPLIES
STARVATION MAKES PEOPLE DO THE MOST HORRIBLE THINGS BE WARNED

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EXITING MELBOURNE PREPERATIONS
you will need a car and you will need a trailer
you already have the basic cheapest food list anything else is a luxury item
if their is a total collapse of the global finacial system even a local one then any cash you have will be good not even be worth the paper it is written on
therefore if you have some cash that you can use as the economy nosedives two other items are good bagaining chips
one is ciggarettes
the other is flasks of wiskey or rum
also make sure if you require any regular medications make sure you stock up on at least six mounths supply

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Gday
l have plagerised some of the information that l have supplied on my posts there fore in evryones interest l offer one valueable reference site that will for a small fee l thinks its about twenty dollars provide a downloadable pdf file written by a a former speacial operations personal whom assisted american and south american governments instigate martial law this document may save your life and no l get no financial reward for letting you know this survivemartiallaw.com

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Hi Aussie Babe

Just signed up today I live in Mansfield Victoria near Mt Buller willing to share/ideas ....Funny I was feeling all alone too...

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hello and welcome ahlgbell. :welcomeani:
I hope your stay on Project Avalon will be a fruitful and interesting experience, and I'm hoping you can contribute in helping make the Victorian Ground Crew team one of the best in Australia, if not the world. :thumb_yello:
Welcome once again.
Take care.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hi Everyone,

Firstly I just wanted to say how good it is to finally connect with people close(r) to home :original:

I havent had the chance to look through all the posts yet, but it is very encouraging seeing just how much people are willing to give of themselves to put something into force.

I was actually wondering, since alot of info comes out of the US about how things are likely (or unlikely) to happen in the future, I would love some links to websites that could give me a better idea of how things are going to affect us here un Oz, and our NZ neighbours.

I will be able top have more input when I have some time to go through the posts :original:

Thanks all, and HI!
M@
:original:

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hello ahlgbell. Welcome to the forum. Isn't it great that we have a bunch of like minded people to share idea's with? Hope you find all the info you are looking for here!


Peace Barb

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Hi 311 saint and Welcome!
Are you in Melbourne or Country Vic? There is very little info on what Aus and NZ can expect re Earth Changes,so to a large degree we are in the dark ( or at least I am )
When you get around to reading the rest of the posts you will find a couple of links to other forums/sites that will/are be full of info especially the AusSurvival one.
Just ask if there is anything you want to know,there is no guarantee that you will get an answer lol but at least try




Peace Barb.

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Hi Everyone!

Came across this and thought it would make an interesting read and it has some good info.Like everything on survival most of it is USA orientated so have to just adapt it to Australian conditions.

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/cgi-b...1;t=044387;p=1


Peace Barb

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A warm welcome to you 311 saint. :welcomeani:
As Aussie Babe has already asked, where abouts are you from in Victoria???
Take care and I look forward to seeing you more often around the friendly Victorian Ground Crew. :winksmiley02:
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

@Aussie Babe
I have to say that the link you provided was an excellent find Barb. :thumb_yello:
Its going to take a bit to digest, but from what little I've read so far, it can help Ground Crews immensely.
Well done Barb. Here's a kiss at ya. :huglove:
Take care.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria Disscussion Group
 

We have had some great info on this tread thanks to all.
However I still wish to meet with people to start a discussion group (many hand make light work) any suggestions. If you wish I will find a place and time, probably around Melb somewhere central to get things rolling:roll1:

There are two opposing forces at work, FEAR and LOVE. If you are feeling the fear they have already won. We can change this by focusing on our own destiny and make it happen, changing attitudes from "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME" to "HOW CAN I HELP".:wink2:

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*crys* Not Everything is souly based on

Fear <--------------->Love

Haven't u seen "Donnie Darko" life isn't that simple there are many aspect's to consider.....

What am I feeling? Fear or Love?

Awnser = Curiosiety for the time beeing. However if crap hit's the fan then My feeling's I would have to say "Justifieable" from that day on I only do what I moraly view as Justifieable.

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:thumb_yello: Hi Aussie Babe - You may guess from my name pomguymguy I am originally from the UK ! But now live in NE Victoria with my wife so not too far away from your area I guess? :)

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I couldn't agree more. We do need to meet up, but there seems to be a lack of enthusiasm. I've put the question forward already in regards to a time and place for this meeting, but very few have responded, with the exceptions of yourself and sirdiablo69.
OK, I'm thinking of Saturday 18th of October '08 at say 2:00pm.
Location: Melbourne City Square - On the corner of Swanston and Collins Streets, Melbourne. Check the map below:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j9...ity_Square.jpg

I would recommend you get there via train and getting off at Flinders Street Station. Its not far from there.
Getting into the City via car will pose parking problems. I'll leave it up to you as to whether you go by train or by car.
Now, so we can identify who is the Ground Crew and who are just normal pedestrians, I suggest we wear a white tee-shirt, perhaps with "Victorian Ground Crew" printed on the back and "Project Avalon" on the front. Its not 100% necessary, but would make things a bit easier.
We can talk in the Square or we can find an outdoor coffee shop. I'll shout the first coffees. :cheers:
If the above isn't satisfactory, then please, I'm open to suggestions.
For those not familiar with Melbourne, your more than welcome to come to my place, leave your car there and you can come with me. Just PM me and I'll give you my address.
OK, now the step has been taken, I'll expect plenty of responses. Please don't disappoint.
Take care all and I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

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Hello Pomguymguy. Welcome to the Victorian Chapter of the Project Avalon Ground Crew. :welcomeani:
I hope you will join us in meeting up at the arranged spot as shown above.
Take care my friend, and once again welcome.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

P.S. What part of England did you come from???

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

lol I have no problem's meeting up with any one here, I do dislike the city though lol haven't been there for some years now.

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So does this mean you'll attend the meeting??? :biggrin2:
Take care and please let me know.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

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Hey DarkMatter,

Count me in.

One exception tho: I look rubbish in white, therefore my sister is making us black T-shirts that will say "P.A. GROUND CREW" on the front. As I'm typing this, she also asked if we should wear foil on our heads....smart ass. :)

I work in the city so I'm familiar with the meeting place.

If anyone wants my mobile phone number in case of a change or whatever, PM me and I'll send it to you. :)

See you guys soon.

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PS: That's two people coming, I meant to say. My sister and I will be making an appearance.

Cheers:naughty:

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Sometime it is all in the timing. Unfortunately I will be out of the state on that date, the only week I have had off in years I"ll be researching higher ground. The next weekend ( Sat.4th) is as close as I can get. If that is unsuitable please post 2nd meeting.

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Gday All,
like Forsaken Falcon lve not travelled to the city for quite some time, and only out of extreme neccesity if l do so, add to that my extreme reluctance to travel aboard a train bus etc l understand the need to come together in person for intro's discusssions, planning and networking etc. l therefore to suggest a potential subcommittees based regional metro, eg. group/s in the nth, sth, east suburbs etc, myself of course located west of the city.

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Gday All,
with regards the hype forcused on the USA, and how much of their activies future may affect us. I need to draw your attention to several scenarios that although not all directly focused on australia/new zealand would still non the less have a significant effect on us here.

China recently issused a statement to the U.S.A to the effect that a collapse of the american dollar would been seen by the chinese as an act of war.
Were that so, if for example the U.S.A went to war with china under any pretence, australia/ new zealand based on existing treaties with the U.S.A be both compelled to participate, as well as considered by the chinese/ russians to be part of an american alliance, and hence one of the countries whom would come under attack.
lf there were not the issue of any WAR to deal with there is still the issue of quite possible pole shift, the results of which would be massive mega tsunamis resulting in the deaths of 80% of the global populace whom reside on coastal regions .
Failing any WARfare failing any poleshifts, a third highly likely scenerio could the dispersal of weaponised birdflu that has a kill rate of something like 80% of the global poipulation.

PLEASE NOTE
if any or all of the above scenerios occur, the survivors would be faced with enormous issues, ranging from extreme food shortages long term loss of water ,electricty, petrol as well as the infrastructure that provides them and there delivery to regular people

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Thank you Lt Ripley, your an angel. :winksmiley02:

Not a problem with using black. And "P.A. GROUND CREW" is good.
As for the tin foil on our heads, that sounds like a great idea........NOT :mfr_lol:

That's good your sister is involved as well. Is she a regular on the Forum??? If not, what is her christian name???
Take care Lt Ripley and thank you, you've made my day with yours and your sisters interest.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Do you mean the 4th of October??? If so, then I can't attend. I'll be in Queensland attending the Nexus Conference that weekend. Would say the 25th of October be OK for you instead??? It shouldn't be a hassle to do that, as I feel its very important to meet each other face to face as I dislike anyone missing out.
Lt Ripley, would this be OK with you and your sister???
Take care my friend and please let us know if this date will be more suitable for you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

I agree we need to form sub-committees, but unfortunately we need more members. So far I only know of you and myself being from the Western suburbs, though a two man committee is possible.
I still feel strongly that a face to face meeting is a very positive thing for the Victorian Ground Crew members. Its always good to know the face of the person you interact with on this Forum.
As for you attending this meeting, would it be better that you come to my place, then we can go together in my car??? Would this make it more comfortable for you???
Take care my friend and please let me know what you'd like to do.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hi again everyone,

I would agree in the fact that a meeting would be a great idea, at least initially as a way to get to know each other, and hear everyone's views on world issues and the like.

I did hope to get up to the Nexus Conference, but unfortunately my plans fell through :( so hopefully asnyone attending may be able to come back with some ideas or feedback for how future situations may affect us.

I also think that sub comittees would be beneficial as well since there may be some good resources in areas which we aren't aware of.

I am keen to head into the city for a meeting. I live in Box Hill, so only a short train ride away.

Just a quick thanks to everyone for being open to listen and aware of what could possibly be necessary change, expecially those with families. Even though I dont' have as many things holding me back as I am sure some others do, I still find it a very big thing to contemplate.

Sorry if posts are few and far between. I don't have much access to internet at moment
Thanks
M@

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Can't promiss anything but I shouldn't have plans for that day it would realy just depend on my mood on the day and if I got enough adiquiet sleep the night befor.

However I'm NOT wearing a "Australian Ground Crew" Shirt lol I'm not walking through Frankston with one of those on @.@

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hello 311 saint,
I very much appreciate you attending the meeting, thank you. :thumb_yello:
I'll be attending the conference for all 3 days with my son. I doubt very much I'll see every speaker though. I want to have a bit of fun while there, but I'll definitely attend when the speakers have something to contribute to the goals or ideals of Project Avalon. I'll **** in your ears and everyone elses about it at the meeting. :biggrin2:
Since you don't get on the internet much, I'll PM you with my phone numbers just in case.
Also have a look in here from time to time, as the actual date of the meeting may change. Might pay you to call me a few days before the meeting, if you can't get on the net, just to confirm the date.
Take care and I look forward to meeting you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Hello ForsakenFalcon,
Not a worry if you can't make it, I don't want to push you, as I suffer from severe depression myself, and sometimes is a struggle to do anything at times.
But if you could make it, that would be fantastic. :groupwave:
As for not wearing a tee-shirt, that's fine. Its optional only, but does make it easier to know who's who when we first meet.
Take care my friend.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

I'v been thinking lately that My grandparent's owne a nursery at hasting's I wounder if I should buy a ****load of bulk vegitible and fruit seed's? I'd oviously get them mega discounted lol.

Re: Melbourne/Victoria
 

Definitely worth it. Especially with the Mega discount. :mfr_lol:
Any chance you can get some prices on seeds??? I'm willing to pay normal retail prices. I don't expect a discount.
Take care.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter