Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Ok So DB has a different opinion than you do on Vaccines. DB has an ego. DB calls himself 'eagle' of whatever. DB filed for bankruptcy at some point.

Therefore, everything he said is a complete and utter lie right? Well, I personally think there are more possibilities worth considering.

Ok, so the alternative story is this:

1) DB initial interview was mainly factual based on his actual experiences.

2) DB was chosen to work with Maji because he did indeed have some kind of connection to the Greys. Whether or not you want to believe it, hybrids are very real and there is weird stuff going on when they abduct people. Piecing together DB story, it does sound like at some point as a youngster he was abducted and something occurred that gave him a connection to the greys. I haven't read his interview in a long time, I don't remember the exact details here.

3) He, like many other scientist in our world, was involved in some of the many many many projects going on underground right now. It doesn't sound like DB was by any means a top dog, much more likely a very compartmentalized asset that was used from time to time for various projects.

4) One of their uses for DB was to communicate with this JRod fella because JRod felt more comfortable communicating with DB since whatever had happened in the abduction scenario as a youngster had brought forth some kind of connection here. This is not unreasonable, and it's similar to Matilda O'Donnell's story Matilda O'Donnell's Alien Interview for that story: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11323 It makes sense that the Greys want to communicate to someone they have some trust with rather than military personnel who obviously see no value in their life. They would look for someone with a good heart, and someone that there is a connection with. In this case, there was a connection because of whatever happened with DB as a youngster. This turned out to be a smart move for JRod as Dan did eventually help him out of there. The cosmic opportunity presented itself and in the movie of earth, which is much more exciting than joe public believes, got to play his exciting part for that time and help JRod home.

5) Note, that whatever happened with DB as a youngster is why Maji got him involved as an asset in the first place. They DID NOT get him involved because he is so sophisticated or such a genius or whatever.

6) As with all 'whistle blowers' DB has been given access to one very compartmentalized piece of the puzzle. He's never had any communication or knowledge of aliens other than Greys, had action underground limited to a couple of D.U.M.B.s, certainly not a large network. He doesn't understand spiritual truth moreso than most on this forum. He doesn't have all the answers, but he does have some incredibly interesting experiences that were worth sharing.

7) It is cosmic law that what is hidden must be revealed in some way shape or form. What is done in secret must be revealed to the people to a certain degree or the karmic load would be too great for those who do things in secret to bear. Generally this is done in such a way that very very few will actually catch on to the hint, but the case can be made the truth was revealed and the hint was there.

8) If you know it's time you had to share some of the information about certain compartmentalized activities, would you maybe consider using one of your assets who a) there's no hard proof that he worked with you b) is flawed in ego kind of ways, in fairness as most human beings are! therefore only highly discerning researchers have any hope of finding and believing his stuff. Most want to have some kind of perfect news reporter person who is hardly human serve them up truth on a plate. That's the entertainment industry for you, but it's not reality. DB, with all his human flaws, is reality.

9) DB goes out and tells you his experiences. Some people listen, DB is drawn into his own ego where it's all about his little group and his ideas and he's got the answers. Now this is obviously not true. DB has experiences worth sharing and may still get some info from time to time from the inside, but DB has many illusions, including illusions of grandeur, like the rest of us and those who blindly follow him as some kind of a guru are indeed headed for the ditch.

10) Because DB is imperfect, doesn't mean his original story, which makes PERFECT sense as a puzzle piece in the grand puzzle of truth as long as you're willing to break through your pre-conceived notions of what can and cannot exist.

11) Whistle blowers have egos. They also have experiences that are worth sharing. Their experiences doesn't make them superior to anyone else regardless of whether others mistakenly think it does or whether they themselves mistakenly think that they do.

12) On this very forum, occasionally people attack each other verbally and may not coming off looking great to others who don't appreciate that kind of communication. We are imperfect. Dan Burisch is imperfect. I don't judge all of someone's thoughts, experiences and beliefs by whether they are perfect and right about everything, that would be ridiculous.

13) It is a fact, that as soon as someone steps onto the main stage and are revealing sensitive information, they will face psychic opposition. There are competing elites and differing agendas, and they do indeed have their psychic attack dogs ready to pounce wherever their could be a leak in their matrix. It is also a fact that whistleblowers and all others can protect themselves by working with Archangel Michael, but how many of them know that or do that? (almost zero right?). Psychic opposition can easily drag someone down into ego traps that really destroy their outer appearance and much of their work. In DB's place, it's not unlikely that he is facing opposition and it is dragging him down into the weird world of eagle ego...

That is a bit more rambling like than usual for one of my post, but I am standing here and letting you know, that my discernment tells me that DB's initial interview, however imperfect that he is, should not be discounted so lightly by those who are truly seeking the truth.

There are actually many cosmic lessons in the Grey story that DB has let us in on and I'm looking forward to digging into those at some point...

DB has opened the door on a lot of stuff, one or two pieces in the puzzle, and when you add in many other whistleblower materials the big picture of what's really happening in our world starts to come into focus... truth is indeed much stranger than fiction, where do you think fiction comes from?

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

If you look back at all of my posts in the past about Dan Burisch, before this thread, I was supportive of the stories he told. I was even still supportive of the stories he told and the line he was taking on Vaccines even after listening to the audio of the Amsterdam Conference where he voiced his opinion. At that point I had never made any attempt to research the dangers of Vaccines on my own. I had no frame or reference to weather he was right or if the audience was right.

Then I happened across the first set of videos that I posted in this thread. I began to realize that there was not really any valid opinion in favor of PTB sponsored vaccines. Seeing as how easily I came across that information and that it only took me about 5-10 min. of searching on Youtube to find it, I began to wonder how such a well versed scientist in the field of microbiology could not be aware that injecting people with toxic levels of Mercury would be harmful. Then after about another 5-10 min of using the You Tube search engine I found the other videos that I have posted in this thread.

Still at this point I had not formed any definate conclusions in my mind about Burisch because he had yet to come back to us with his conclusions about the dangers of vaccines. I thought that for sure after it had only taken me a grand total of about 25 min. to find all the documented data that one needs to know to determine if vaccines have dangerous compounds or not, that surely an intelligent "scientist" like Burisch would easily come to the same conclusions.

Burisch had said when he left the conference that he was going to do research to find out once and for all if the concerns of the masses where justified scientifically or not. He supposedly went and did extensive research and came back with the conclusion that vaccines had never been used to harm the recipients of them and that if Project Camelot would continue to insist that they were dangerous that he could no longer be involved with PC. He did research on a level far more extensive than the lengths I went to in order to discover the truth and his conclusion is that injecting your blood stream with among other things Mercury has never been proven to have any harmful effects?

At this point after I read his conclusions I knew I had been had, and that the only way he could be saying this is if he was being instructed to. I even stated earlier in this thread that

Post #4 by Tone3jaguar
This thread is not about everything that Dan Burisch has ever said being true or not. It is about the in your face deception that he attempted to shove down my throat and all of yours believing that it would work because people had decided to start trusting him. It is not a matter of opinion as to weather the ingredient load in the vaccines is dangerous or not. It is scientifically proven to be dangerous and has been for a long time. Even the dumbest of scientists on their worst day could easily see this by reviewing the video and also written evidence in the numerous thesis style books that have been written on it.

Thank god my sister and brother in law already knew about the Mercury in the vaccines 3 years ago before my niece was born or else she might be mentally disabled instead of bright and intelligent. The only reason they knew when I was oblivious to it was because he ran a Chelation Therapy Clinic and had been well versed in all the possible sources of heavy metals for quite some time.

This thread was not an attack on anyone. It was retaliation for the war that the PTB started long ago when they began maming women and children for the sake of control and status. If Dan Burisch did not want to get caught up in the line of fire then he should have conducted himself in a more ethical manner. Tough s--t for Dan Burisch and anyone else that tries to feed me information that is designed to endanger my health. If he can't take the heat then he should get out of the fire, oh wait he already did. Boo, Hoo, Hoo:(

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

P.S. As a quick follow up, whether or not we believe anything DB has said is far less important than the way we choose to interact with each other and deal with truth in general. It's not about 'us vs. them' and deciding who and what is good and bad. It's about working on ourselves and using every opportunity, including our interactions with each other, to come from a more loving place rather than a dualistic one... it's about taking the middle road rather than getting into dualistic arguments, things are not black and white. Unconditional love is what will save the earth, being right or wrong in arguments won't get us very far..

Unconditional love to all of you, and DB.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Deciding who and what is good and bad is what the truth movement is all about. Camelot is at the forefront of the truth movement and this is the Camelot General Discussion. Therefore, I am going to respectfully agree to disagree with you on that one:)

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Well, the fact is that many many many respected scientist, in fact the VAST majority of the medical community and respected medical professionals in our world, believe vaccines are helpful and not harmful. Every single child that is born in North America is vaccinated soon after they are born.

Do you really think that doctors would go along with this if they believed vaccines are dangerous?

So DB shares the opinion of the VAST majority of respected medical professionals and scientist on the planet.

We here in the 'truth' community see things very differently than the world in general. DB is not necessarilly a suspicious truth seeker like you are. He worked for Maji. He is much more bought into the things they are doing than you are. He doesn't see the deception as much. His experiences are hyper interesting and worth hearing, his opinions on the other hand, are not necessarilly!!!

You are here Tone because you are a truth seeker. Most of us are here because of that. DB would most likely not be involved in the truth seeking community if not for his background of employment and ET contact. He doesn't necessarilly understand the nefarious forces behind the Powers that Be and that is where there is a disconnect.

His testimony is incredibly valuable for those who are looking for the big picture, however, he himself doesn't get the big picture. Obviously, he doesn't get the agenda behind vaccines or H1N1 either, but these things have nothing whatsoever to do with his career or exposures on greys and looking glasses.

Again though, vaccines are part of a much larger picture, everyone already gets vaccinated period. Yet we're still here having this chat, so they're not exactly pure death. Certainly it's possible that H1N1 vaccines could be more harmful than usual, but there is so much awareness around this that I very much doubt that they could sneak too much negative stuff in there without people testing it and finding out exactly what's in there.. so I personally don't think, at this point that the H1N1 vaccine, will necessarilly be so much more harmful than the other many many vaccines that are already out there and being given to billions of people.

My point is, it's not fair nor logical to discredit someones entire testimony and history on an unrelated point where you share a different viewpoint.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

The doctors have tunnel vision and do not have the advantage of ever having been shown a paradigm outside of the main stream. The fact is that before vaccines ever started back in the early 1900's no one had ever heard of autism because no one had it. Then in the early 80's they where giving babies 12 shots loaded with Mercury which resulted in 1 in every 2500 children having autism. Now they give babies 24 shots with mercury in them that amounts to 400x the safe level of mercury as mandated by the FDA. This I discovered after doing 25 min total of video research. There is not debate, it is black and white. If Dr. Burisch really is a scientist, you could say that he is so far out side of the box that the tunnel vision of main stream medicine would not even be something he is aware of which would make him uncovering the truth even easier than it would be for a main stream doctor.

He claims he worked for Majestic, where is the proof? They listed him as a prison guard and security guard at a casino as a cover? He declared bankruptcy because he could not pay back the student loans after his way through school was paid for by his keepers?

His daughter was secretly made part of a treaty deal with future mutant humans and he had to give up custody of her so that they would not be allowed to take her back to the future and use her as a genetic blueprint? I seem to remember that story from somewhere else. Oh thats right, Fox Maulders Black Ops dad was responsible for the disappearance of Foxes sister because of some sort of deal that he struck.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Not worth it...too much big brother and sleeping going on here

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Not worth it

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Deciding who is 'good' and who is 'bad' is something I don't agree is the path to enlightenment.

We see through a glass darkly here. There is truth found everywhere, but illusions also found everywhere. The path is one of mastering our discernment, we are working towards Christ discernment which is where we can see and hear what is real and what is unreal.

When we expect a person either has only truth or only lies, then we are assuming things are very black and white, and that's not reality.

I'm certainly not here saying everything DB says is true, and it's not even so much about DB, but it is about whether or not it's a good approach to judge people and their work and put them in categories of good or bad. I don't agree with this. Personally, my discernment has led me to continue to believe that some of the info that DB revealed is ground breaking and very interesting.

In fairness, there are disinfo agents, and there are mind controlled disinfo agents, I believe that is true. It is also a good idea to share our discernment on individuals. I'm sharing my discernment in this case. It obviously differs from some others, and that's a good thing, because if you only get one viewpoint, then you're missing a big part of the spectrum of possibilities.

I don't think vaccines are a good thing. I also don't think because someone is a microbiologist they can go back to some lab and prove that they are harmful. Vaccines are so effective for the PTB because it is thus far almost impossible to conclusively prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are harmful. Feel free to take whatever study you can find to your local doctor or microbiologist or scientist and I'm guessing, if they bother to investigate, you will be presented with 5 studies for everyone that you show them that show that vaccines are safe.

I'm not saying those studies aren't skewed, but I am saying it's very difficult and possibly impossible to conclusively prove, at this point, that vaccines are harmful beyond any shadow of a doubt, even for a microbiologist.

At some stages on the search we may need to be very black and white about things, but I believe we must keep climbing from there where we can hear truth even when it comes from very unexpected sources. If the messenger is an ant, heed him.

Peace!

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Fact, you can avoid getting vaccinated or having your children vaccinated in all 50 states by declaring a religious objection to doing so. I did this at the health department for my children and received a nice blue form that I turned into any day cares and public schools. I never had a problem doing so. They lie to people by saying that you can't send your children to day cares or public schools if they are not vaccinated. SO, every child IS NOT vaccinated in North America.

Yes I do as it was just proven that doctors get paid bonuses in the UK if they get 75% of children vaccinated and a bigger bonus if it is above 90%. Guess what? They have upped the vaccination rate! So, yes they will work harder to get the lil tykes vaccinated for money.

Another fact is that nurses and doctors get about 30 minutes to an hours instruction on the validity of vaccinations. That's their research time in medical school. Guess who gives the class? Usually a "scientist" from the pharm company. So, guess now if they are given an unbiased factual based lecture. Here is another bit of facts for you. Any research doctor who dares to do a double blind study or study of any kind into the dangers of vaccines loses their funding. Guess how many double blind studies have been done by American scientists here in America as to the danger of vaccines. As of my last count, none! Italy has actual medical scientists who have done the studies and have proven the dangers of the MMR, Rubella vaccines and their direct tie to Autism and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. The UK even quit vaccinated children under 2 yrs at one point based on the SIDS research, and their SIDS rate dropped dramatically. Vaccines in babies can cause encephalitis (swelling of the brain) and thereby kill the child.

I have studied the issue of vaccines in depth since 1991 and have more factual study time than the average doctor or nurse by hundreds of hours. Yet, because I am not a doctor or nurse they take a knee jerk reaction that I am a kook and don't know a thing. I have even lost doctors for my children due to refusing to let them brow beat me into vaccinating them. They love to treat you like you are an idiot and endangering your child for such decisions, but I have not backed down. Sadly, my ex got them vaccinated a couple of years ago, and now I have to take measures to get the poisons out of their systems, but I got them all over the age of 8 before this happened, and for that I think I avoided much brain damage.

Yes, many are damaged and killed by vaccines. The diseases that are targeted by vaccines were already on the decline in N. America before the vaccines were made. They still vaccinate for Polio despite Salk requesting the vaccine be discontinued in N. America as every case here was directly linked to the vaccine after the 1980's. The rise in autism, ADHD, mental slowness has increased dramatically from 40 years ago. Many parents know something happened to their child, but can't figure out what happened. Many need to mourn the loss of the child that would have been, and move on with the child they have. I do believe if we get these poisons out of our children we an greatly improve their mental acuity.

Yes, that is true, but they also once believed leeching was the cure for everything and that there was no such thing as microbes. Once the truth was discovered they grew and took precautions when treating patients. The truth is out there about what's in vaccines and the outcome on immune systems and intelligence of those receiving vaccines, so why do they keep it up? Maybe because there is a reason to dumb down our kids, turn them into order obeying, non-thinking slaves.


You are assuming anyone in America does test those vaccines. Again, you can get out of being vaccinated if you take the right steps. Going from a strong healthy person to someone who is bedridden, mentally disabled, crippled is very devastating and for many of those people they wish they had just died. Just ask those in the military who are guinea pigs and end up a shell of who they once were. I don't think the H1N1 vaccine will cause a mass die off. I think it will make those with the genetic marker to the H1N1 ready to be infected when it is unleashed on the population. It's there to give them one flag to activate the full swine flu once they encounter it. I do think there is a definite agenda to kill off blacks and Hispanics. The American population could be targeted due to the whole independence viewpoint and why bother fighting us in the streets if they can just make us sick and die from a flu that they can say, "We warned you, but you didn't listen and didn't take the vaccine".

All in all, this is planned, and they see the whole chess board while we get to see see pieces and areas, but not the whole layout. No need to fear, but knowledge allows me to feel peace, and know more to make choices and respond to situations and not simply react like a sheep about to be slaughtered (easy to herd and kill).

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Unified Serenity, thanks for some of the info there, I'm not totally on the up and up about the laws around vaccines and such..

My personal feeling about the DB thing is that he is not part of this forum or community, vaccines has never been an issue for him, as Tone says, before Tone bothered to research them recently he thought they were fine.

I think DB was in the category of those who thought they were fine. He was blindsided by this question about vaccines at the conference, had really no ideas of the negative effects, and basically said he thought they were fine. Then he said he would do some research to confirm.

Now the fact is DB has an ego thing going on. He publicly states they are fine. So when he goes and does research, do you think he is going to seek out information that validates or dis-validates his public statement? It's exactly the same as when you take this info to a scientist or a doctor, they are going to look for info that makes vaccines appear safe to validate their own ego and opinion. It's EASY to find stuff that does validate vaccines and that's what DB finds and states.

Now in large part because he did that, everything he's said is getting written off, even though none of his work had anything to do with vaccines and he probably shouldn't have even been asked about them because he is not some kind of guru who knows stuff out of his line of experience. He doesn't.

I don't have answers for the student loan stuff but 15K loan for a PHD is like one or two semesters, not a whole education. Obviously he wasn't full time with Magi and if he says he was full time, that's a hole in his story that he'll need to explain.

Personally, I think DB probably spruced up his resume even to himself to appear better to himself and others. It doesn't mean Maji stuff never occured. That's my opinion.

One last thing about vaccines. Polio used to be a big problem before polio vaccines and there are other types of diseases from what I understand that have been stopped in their tracks from vaccines. I don't think vaccines are necessary or safe in our world, however, I do think they have served a legitimate purpose at times historically speaking.

The way it works however, is that diseases exist in the first place due to karmic misuse of energy by the people. They are wake up calls for people to change their way of being. When you fix things from a material perspective, the karma that created the disease, now needs to express itself in another way. That's the door the PTB have to put some mercury into these things and whatever else to get people with the backdoor. Whenever you solve something with a strictly material solution rather than solving the consciousness problem that is creating the karma that expresses itself as the problem in the first place, then you are always going to have a backside to the solution that is going to cause another problem in another way. That's cosmic law.

Basically, you can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Such is the nature of change.

Each step, one in front of the other, sees us arive in a new world. It is a journey that can only happen in one direction.

In my opinion it is entirely wrong to even try to hold on to the things of the past.

Myself I stopped moderating a while back, it can be immensely taxing. I was going through some personal changes at the time and the forum was increasingly hard to moderate - (this was before the subscription started).

I came back when I was asked to help out with moderating in the AUS timezone and also to provide admin services. I got more than I bargained for, since we started getting all the database problems, and shortly after that the host decided to shut us down without notice!

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

A..

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

14 Chakra, I respect what you have said, and yes it is true that it takes great objectivity to research areas that are not in agreement with one's given understanding, but when someone says they are going to do just that and comes back in this issue of vaccines as ok, then they are very much one to be careful of trusting.

I see this current H1N1 vaccine as very dangerous. If DB is a tool of tptb, then it makes sense for him to continue this charade of trust me. Then again, if we do not comply and tptb turn it into a violent situation to not take the vaccines that also plays into their hand. This really is a bad situation, and they have played a wonderful chess game and are boxing the people into a corner which is often the best move for check mate.

All in all, I am where I am supposed to be at this moment. My future decisions will come from a place of peace, and I will NOT take the vaccine or allow my children to be vaccinated. Should they or I be forced to, I will have counter measures ready to get them out of my system. And energetically speaking, all can be negated with the right frequency.

blessed be,

Unified Serenity

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Yes well this whole DB saying "Trust me" is the problem.

DB has an ego, it's his ego that thinks you should follow him. DB has some interesting whistleblower experiences. He's not a guru. Those who chose to follow him do so to their own peril. My discernment tells me he's not a disinfo agent, he's not trying to harm anyone, he's just not working enough on overcoming his ego illusions. The universe will reflect back to him the consequences of this, which we can see here in this thread, and eventually he will see through his own stuff.

DB has a lot of work to do on himself as do all of us here. The key is not to expect someone outside of us to have the answers for life. If we do start to follow someone that is telling us the answers, one day we will see that they are a fragile human being with an ego like the rest of us, and at that point we can either take responsibility for our own mistake of choosing to put people on pedastles and follow them blindly, or we can mistakenly attack them and believe it's all 'their' fault and play the victim.

Any true teacher will force you to connect to the answers from within rather than getting you to follow them blindly. DB is not a true teacher, but he's not some kind of evil deceiver either. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater means, when we realize someone doesn't have all the answers they claim, it doesn't mean that they have no value. Keep what rings true, discard the rest, and keep up the good search.

DB is a lesson for everyone on more than one level.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

For the most part, I agree with you 14 Chakras.

Thanks for a decent discussion.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I personally learn a lot from these discussions. I think this community is full of learning experiences for us all. Time well spent, even when the going gets rough, sometimes that provides the best opportunities for growth.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

This stuff about ignoring who is good and bad being a path to salvation is made up bull s--t.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

This is a big lie we have been force fed.
Virus pandemics self limit and then extinguish.
Polio was in a huge decline before the vaccine.
And there's a lot more to that story ...

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/polio_chart.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34353898@N07/3799749112/

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

We have been lied to about the savior effect of vaccines.

Pertussus (whooping cough)
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/pertussis.htm
Again notice the decline of 80% before the vaccine was introduced.

Measles
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/measles_chart.htm

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Karen, this is exactly why I have zero trust in the AMA and Pharm companies. Vaccines do not save us, but they do compromise our immune systems and nervous systems. Look at the skyrocketing diseases that have appeared in the past 45 years.

Look at the cost in lost human potential and the ability to think for ourselves. It's all about money and power, and anyone who plays along with them is carrying a heavy load for what they have done. Is DB evil? I don't think so, but I do think he is wrong on vaccines.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I've got to start out by saying " I'm not posting to Judge "
But, something isn't right..........!!! I've sent DB's video's
to some other retired mil. officers in Tucson, AZ.
[tower operators, ATC, logistics] he doesn't use mil. jargon.

You tell me... Watch the movie " Annapolis." Try to
picture DB in the place of a character... As a Midshipman.
I've heard, he was a U.S. Navy Captain, Daniel Crane, he
would have had to attend Annapolis; for officers training.
We all do. He doesn't speak the way officers talk.

If you've ever heard Wendell Stevens, from Tucson, AZ
is a retired officer. I spoke with Bob Dean, in his home
way back when he had the Stargate website... He was
an enlistedmen, CSgt.M, Army (ret.), both of these men
delivery is the same. Clear; consistent as most used to
giving reports. I don't hear that kind of delivery from DB.
DB also doesn't use mil. jargon [lingo]... Strange Huh...

I remember something abt a "BJ Wolf" out of Vegas. But, it
sounded like B.S. to me...

We, were up thru Vegas twice a month at least until 02,
there was a deal with the LUXOR; $ 14.00 per nite, if we
showed our ID's and stayed armed while in the hotel. We
did Nellis and the ranch... So, we were stuck in Vegas area
for two nites and I wasn't stay'n at the B.O.Q. on Nellis.
I've always hated Vegas.

Understand this... mil. officers retirement is abt $ 1875.00 a
month Before the last COLA, and DB has security. Bullsfit !
And, why would he live in Vegas ? Why, wouldn't he move
over W. of the MTN. [where Art Bell lived...] or down
by the Hoover damn, I know several officers that live down
there...? Why Vegas ? Why an apartment...? Something
doesn't add up here... I've been in the game too long to
miss anything.

Now, he is going to a pharmaceutical manufacturer... Sorry,
everything is shipped into Vegas. No manufacturers there...
I would know... Most everything in Vegas comes from
Phoenix, AZ...

He doesn't talk military....... I've listened... Go back and
listen to Bob Dean... That's the way most officers deliver.
That's the way, I deliver a report... Just the facts, NO
DRAMA... DB, always uses some kind of drama. Not becoming;
a Naval Officer...

I do remember someone showing me a video of DB as
a TV " science guy." Way back... I don't remember who
showed me... Out of NY, I think...

Now, remember as I said, " I'm NOT judging here with this
post..." But, it is against the LAW to impersonate a mil.
officer. They are making arrests for such offenses; crimes.
Has anyone seen his mil. ID. Does he have a Brown passport
like we have...?

Someone, needs to ask Bob Dean what he thinks... When I
talked to Bob Dean in his home, that's the first thing I did
was showed him My mil. ID. Hopefully, he doesn't remember
me by my handle... But, he Would recon me if he saw me,
right off. Oh, and, I completely trust Robert Dean...

Trooly,

Tango

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I have spent many years watching Dan Burisch, long before PC came to be. I take his info like a salad bar....take what I want and leave the rest.

What is undeniable about him and his site after all these years, is his curious.......NO DOWNRIGHT STRANGE....preoccupation with setting up controls about who gets to hear what...and repeatedly calling out the public on his forum to let them know that certain people will get to see certain information and to "ALL OTHERS...the information is ACCESS DENIED!"

I'm sorry, but this reeks of some very serious control issues. Its also...and this is just a fact...very self-righteous.

Why would an individual continually have to "DENY" people access? It is very strange. The word is all over his golden thread. I just think its somewhat strange and I would like to hear an accounting of this by DB and MB.

Their overall sentiment is NOT friendly. I can't figure out why.

I think these are fair and reasonable concerns.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

What exactly are you talking about?

Please explain your hit and run!

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

See my New Age Disinformation thread

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Well hey that is a pretty good thread T3J!

I am a fragment of the Whole and my fragment contains all the properties of the Whole; both current and infinite potential in any path that could unfold based on my individual expression of all inclusive Divine Intelligence.

I do not follow anyone or anything... I create my own path and leave a trail behind!:thumb_yello:

Adventure-Curiosity-Observation-Exploration-Discovery.

A CO-ED. :roll1::mfr_lol:

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

i think, the reason bill & kerrie,
don't reveal anything on DB aka DC

is because, in order to interview him,
that had to sign agreements
WHICH PREVENT them,
from "full" disclosure !!!

i think, he's likely a good researcher,
but, i definitely do NOT believe,
he was ever a part of MJ12,
personally, i predict, he's going to get arrested/and, charged
for impersonating, a member of the usa miltary,
that's what i think

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

What a fiasco - all hell has broken out at Dans website http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/ and it's associated golden thread. Dissing BR and KC - getting far too personal, and also lashing out at other whistleblowers.
How unprofessional :thumbdown:

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I guess some people are losing it.....

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Either that or someone over his head decided on a strategic change.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

the "truth" is "out there"

trouble is: DB/DC - likely had people sign paperwork
prior to him granting interviews

allows him to talk and talk and, talk

and, them, NOT say a word

(there is a way to silence people) :lmao:

perhaps that is why KC/AND BR are quiet/or silent about things ?

if DB/DC lived in a world,
and/part of the world, where he couldn't go bankrupt,
they take that amount of money out of your hide,
one way/or other

i belive DB/DC is going to end up behind some bars
for impersonating miltary personnel.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Yes it was my post here...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15690

I was a Zurich and my intuition was flashing in my head "BS" throughout the whole 2 hour DB discussion on Friday especially when she started talking about CO2 and global warming. And then to steer the whole discussion in the group talk about vacines I feel I wasted ~4 hours of my life. I cost me considerable time and money to get t Zurich from the UK and that part was a complete waste of my time.

I did however meet some wonderful people when I was there and recently at the Amsterdam 1 day conference but other than the meeting and discussing these things with like minds I didn't get a whole lot from the conference. The David Willcox lecture was great but even his comments about weather control and chemtrails didn't ring true either (for me)... SO I suppose with all of this you need to make sure your own truth meter is working...

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

DB insistence on control of information is unsettling. When teamed up together DB and MB behave in a strange way, so it does not surprise me that people BullS*#t detectors were going off.

My opinion is that he has had some genuine experience, but that fascinatingly enough, he and MB continue to manufacture their new interactions for notoriety.

I know this is a bold claim, and I used to really entertain all that he said. I just find it so unlikely that this person seems to be personally involved in almost any UFO related topic you can bring up...and all the Gordon Novel stuff....what is the point of that? What are you trying to prove?

It takes a lot for me to say things like this because I strongly believe in giving everyone a fair chance to tell their story.

I encourage everyone here to use their best discernment when listening to these witnesses.

Perhaps I am feeling him out incorrectly?

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I guess I am kind of glad I don't have the money to waste on a trip like that. I would love to go to LA to one of Kerry's events, but then again it costs some to travel from FL to LA. I would value the opportunity to meet others face to face and share information as I do believe that some people will share more that way than online where there is a permanent record so to speak. Yes, I agree in hearing people out, but keep one's radar operating at top speed as there are quite a few who like to dress things up beyond their real experiences.

I'd love to have a conference in the South East US for those of us willing to attend and give of our time, but not wishing to spend thousands to do so. Then again, that's sort of what ground crews are for, and it would be great to have one near me. So far not much luck on the requests I have made for local or regional contacts. Hmmm, maybe it's me, lol. C'est la vie!

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I could not resist, I know this is beating the dead horse with a slege hammer. I just visited the Eagles Disobey wanna-be web site and found that Dan Burish is backing up his rediculousness with a topping of ludicrous.

There is so much B.S. up there on his web site that I do not even know where to start. Oh I know I will start with how he has decided to bash his “friend” David Wilcock. I made the call back when Burisch came out with his researched conclusions that injecting Merucury, Ether, Aluminum and what ever else is in a vaccination that his trip to never never land was going to come back to haunt David Wilcock. To be clear I like David, and that is why this is so ludicrous. I think Dan is off of his meds.

From the Eagles Disobey Web Page

Then there are the delusions about Bill Ryan

*Then there is the conspiracy he has invented about where Camelot gets its funding

He also now has a page where he “exposes” what really happened at Baxter Parmeceuticals where he justifies the avian flu contamination as human error.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

This is for all of 'us' on the thread... we, could all say these words to DC...

L00KS like its goin into in this thread... So, I think its a fitting...



Just, imagine 'You' saying these words with ME standing right there next to you.

Trooly,


Tango

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

You know what? Somebody (could be anybody) was so fed up with Dan Burisch's whistleblowing, that he (they?) dropped a whole lot of acid in Dan B.'s drink & ever since (Uncle) Dan, as we knew him, became a different Dan. A NOT Dan, so to speak.
Let us all pray
that one day
Dan becomes Dan
again.
And if not, God doesn't exist.
Deal?

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Let's sing it one more time - with a little harmonica at the end.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Acid wears off and only makes you crazy if you where already on the edge before you took it.

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

Thanks, Karen... That was C00L....

Welll Now.... Let's put a little Stink on it...[this is for viewers on the Thread]

" She came from somewhere, back, long Ago "

" what he felt had to be created, He never 'made Up' things Right, What a F00L Believes"

" can You see, The WISE man has a Problem; Un reasonably; What seems-- to be "

" He's always scared of noth'n; noth'n at alll, He keeps tell'n it-- Somewhere back N' his Long Ago "

N' everyone needs a little dirty SAX at the end....





Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald describe the friendship between KC & DC.

Just listen to the Words, then it becomes very clear... 'From the Redwoods.'

Sometimes, things just fit together, Just Right. Look @the words abv as it plays...

Verry trooly,



Tango

" Dancing in the Redwoods "

Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch
 

I suggest everyone do their research about Dan Burisch also known as Dr.Crain.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4190378

"His name today is Dan Burisch. Before that it was Dan Catselas, and when Eyewitness News first ran into him, it was Dan Crain. "Doctor" Dan Crain, he says. But is he a doctor, and has he really been face to face with an alien in an underground lab?"

A TV Producer's story:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage440667/pg1

From UFO WatchDog, 2004, long before Bill & Kerry met him. This one is a must read! The bankruptcy filing is interesting.
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html