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correct

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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1874942

Greer in Barcelona

Check it out.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

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G: Greer really believes that all ET's are benevolent and that there have never been dealings with them.

There's more than 1 issue here, but as far as I know, Dr. Greer has never had any bad experience with ETs, and he has always believed that all ETs were benevolent. This is a remark I've heard him make in his presentations, so this was always a point of difference from other sources.

What is new is the statement that the government was not involved with ETs and the statement by others of the threat with the free energy. This, we can wait for his interview.

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On a Coast to Coast interview he describes his experiences with ETs in both a dream-state and an ability to call upon UFO's. It's on youtube somewhere, not sure if you'd classify that as an experience, I would if it were true.

As for the statement about the gov not being involved with ETs, and that they're all benevolent, is just sheer nonsense (assuming of course, he did say that).

I'm very curious as to what is going on. Things are definitely in motion right now.

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UPDATE

"Regarding the incident at the end of the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit, we have investigated it to the degree possible. We interviewed the inventors who felt they were threatened, we talked to observers of the events, and we met with Dr. Steven Greer and his bodyguards and assistants.

We understand that what happened was largely due to a lack of understanding of the language (for the inventors, English is a second language) and something said during the Speaker's Dinner by Steven Greer himself in response to a request by an inventor to discuss his invention. When asked, Dr Greer said he replied [something like]: "If I told you, I would have to kill you", which is a well known joke in the US but was taken as a serious threat by one of the inventors.

Two other inventors claimed that when they approached Greer - in entirely separate incidents - he admonished them that unless they worked with him it was unlikely that they would get anywhere with their device. This they took as a threat rather than as a realistic statement from someone who has spent years working to break through the secrecy surrounding Free Energy.

These three inventors approached Greer independently during the conference. When the person who approached him at dinner heard the American "I'd have to kill you" joke, shaken and shocked, he shared his experience with his friends. The others also compared their interactions with Greer and, now united in their upset, they all went to enlist the assistance of a well known and respected radical journalist who is known in Spain as Rafa.

Rafa took their accusations seriously, and together they became determined to go on stage and tell the conference what had happened and ask Greer to confirm what he had said. The group were not given a chance to speak on stage, and so their questions to Greer were never answered.

One could easily see how fear might be motivating the confused perceptions of many of those involved. However, after asking Dr Greer to account for what had happened it is clear that he made no overt threats of any kind.

However, we can sympathize with the inventors who made these claims. We understand that they well may have perceived Greer (who is knowledgeable, self-assured, and often very verbally assertive) as threatening in a non-verbal way which when combined with the very sensitive subject of Free Energy, which all are very passionate about, fueled this misunderstanding at a cultural level.

It's important to state that we do not know enough about Dr Greer and his business dealings concerning Free Energy to conclude what else may be going on behind the scenes to create this misunderstanding on many levels... not just the physical reality."

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That addresses the "death threats". I stayed away from that topic for pretty much that same reason.

However, the main concern remains. Did Project Camelot address Greer about this disinformation? If not, why? If so, then...? Hopefully this interview explains more, assuming it's on display.

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Thanks wormhole for the link. I guess everything is straightened now per the Camelot site. Thanks for the link. I'm listening to it now and I am learning a lot.

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I just finished the video. All very typical Greer. Nothing to wag a finger at. I am very interested in hearing his views after being asked pointedly if he believes all Et's are friendly. This was not covered in the video. I will look to see if there was any more info on another vid of the organized debate perhaps.

The clarification on the cultural misunderstanding resonates. At the end of the video Greer was very enthusiastic with respect to working with Spain in terms of what they had to put on the table regarding free energy, there was no animosity what so ever. He remains... Dr. Steven Greer.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Here is the "debate" link
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1868431

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I think Dr Greer's viewpoint on this is that:

any ET race advanced technologically enough to be using interstellar space travel would have to be peaceful or else they would have destroyed themselves (or been destroyed) long ago.

Not saying this is my viewpoint, but I'm fairly certain I have heard Greer state this opinion.

What is really worrying is that Kerry has launched defamatory attacks on Greer on the Camelot site without clarifying anything with Greer.

No wonder Dr Greer has now decided to be interviewed to clear things up when facing this sort of public 'attack' from what should be a staunch ally.

I'm not saying she is right or wrong, but this attack is quite unprofessional.

Dr Greer doesn't have to explain himself to anybody, he has been on the front lines doing and amazing job long before Project Camelot ever existed.

I can imagine the 'public disclosure' will NEVER happen if we focus on the negative ETs - No government is ever going to admit to their constituents that there are 'bad guys' visiting earth with advanced technology and there's nothing we can do about it. That would cause public chaos and fear and would be a huge blow to national security.

Disclosure needs to be positive for it to work at all. See what I mean?

Maybe Greer knows this and is being smart by focusing on the (overwhelming majority of ) good 'Angelic' visitors exclusively.

This is an enormous 'can of worms' but we all need to stick together to pull this off, in-fighting and name calling is exactly what the 'interior government controllers' want... 'divide and conquer'.

Lets wait and see what the Greer-Camelot interview reveals.. should be a great discussion!

On a side note:
How interesting that Camelot's number 1 whistleblowers real name turns out to be 'Arthur'...

King Arthur - Camelot.. get it? :original:

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If what she said is accurate, I would have to agree with her posting. If someone is spreading disinformation which could potentially hinder man-kinds ability to find truth, I (and many others) take that very personally.

I can understand that her posting isn't necessarily the most "polite" way to handle this, as it was posted before the interview. However, if Project Camelot's claims are accurate, I agree - they are insidious.

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EXACTLY, sounds more like a smear campaign to me. Perhaps the actual event as portrayed here is in fact false, check the facts before accusing someone of something completely out of character.
Barry

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If I were there at the conference, I would interview those Spanish people to see if they really have a proof of a working free energy device. If they do, their should make it available for anyone to see it. This can also be used as a proof of their legitimacy. If they don't have the device, any blue prints or any knowledge on how it works, it is likely that they are actors. If they have some proof above, it means that there could be something wrong about Dr. Greer.

IMO by being upset and frighten at Dr Greer may not be enough to discredit him, considering the amount of work he has done to bring several witnesses to the public. He has created a lot of enemies already. I am pretty sure that not all ETs are benevolent. For me Dr Greer said it the other ways, means that he doesn't want to talk about the evil side of ETs as will raise several questions and his answers will be used against him and his project and can ruin the disclosure.

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What was posted by Bill and Kerry is their take on events and interpretations followed by those whom simply read their take. In this instance events were not portrayed correctly. Greer it seems is guilty of one thing only here. Take this from an insider whom, without blowing my own trumpet, knows a thing or two more than many of you here. There ARE unfriendlies out there and Greer should acknowledge that fact, why he does not in this presentation beats the hell out of me but in time he will have to explain himself. Many of us have been targetted for smears against our integrity, our values and morals by those wishing to keep silent data re disclosure. Character assassination is a much used tool by these people. Do your research on this alleged episode before jumping on the bandwagon, no more witch hunts.

Barry

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Tramik you don't have the facts on anything here, put your pointing fingers away and don't be too quick to jump-the-gun ok.

Wise words Barry.

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Yeah I get it..now you mention it...:mfr_omg::mfr_lol:

That was an excellent post.

I especially agree with the paragraph that starts ....This is an enormous
can of worms......etc.

Thanks for all that. When the dust settles...hopefully it will all have
been a storm in a teacup. But already some damage has been inflicted.
This is amunition for the disinfo bunch that patrole the internet.


Given to them, on a plate. Bet they're loving it..:original:





In-fighting is the last thing needed right now.

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It's time for Greer to put up or shut up....he's made enough money

Disclosure is just around the corner is getting really old

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Actually he has put his money where his mouth is constantly. Look around you Globally, Disclosure IS occuring right now before your eyes!!

Barry

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I don't want to repeat myself, but obviously there's some confusion. I'm simply saying if Kerry's claims are accurate, then I can agree. If they're not, and even if they are, I want more information. That's why the title of this thread is asking for "Details Please!" Of course hearsay doesn't prove anything.

All I want to know is - did he say what Kerry claimed? And if he did, the reason why is essentially irrelevant because regardless of the intent it is still disinformation.

I don't think this is an absurd thing to ask.

I agree 100%.

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He DID put up. The Disclosure Project. Remember.

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I just finished the video on "Debate" which I posted earlier. I still have not found on inkling of evidence that Dr.Greer was in disagreement with the openly discussed (and may I add that Greer supported) statements that the government was having dealings with ETs both on the moon, mars, and on this planet. He supported these statements with concern to testimony about underground bases, though made no direct statement for or against. My feeling was that he was in agreement with what was being stated.

I agree with Luminari's thoughts on words used, "insidious" for example as having some disrespect and being unprofessional. I also keep in mind that Kerry is a passionate and out spoken personality type, and can let that override her personality at times.

So far... nada.

Is it possible, and it may be that Bill and Kerry got caught up with the energy of a story that they had yet to discover if it had a base? If so, I trust them to come to terms with the information and adjust their posts as they are want to do. Time will tell at this stage.

If anyone finds any evidence to the contrary... please post it. Thank you.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

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This is true.

Hence the sightings, hollywood movies, ufo files coming out, etc.

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Everyone calm down, here is the real story strait from a recent post on Camelot

It would not be out of the question for negative STS thought forms to have played a role in these happenings. It would not be a surprise if they also played a role in the similar misunderstanding that happened at the Camelot conference with Burisch. Unfortunately for Steven Greer, he does not believe that there are negative off world entities that would do such a thing. He is obviously protected himself or they would have just gone strait for him, but that does not stop them from going after those he is interacting with. I am not making this stuff up. I have gotten a good up close and personal taste of it over the last decade. That is what I believe threw gasoline on what would have been a small smolder.

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Thanks for the update tone3jaguar

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Sorry Steven Greer.......once again i learn a lesson that my perception is my perception not yours! i regret any negativity due to my emotional lock in of the 5 senses.....

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:original:This is what I saw and heard at the conference, Dr. Greer spoke then we had break for 30 minutes/1 hour I think I,m not sure how long,after the break they called/round up all speakers then during the question and answers, which was people have to give a question note , so they can pick which question were going to be asked, which to me was weird so no live questioning from the audience, thats when this Spanish guy named Rafa (didnt know his name then) started saying something to the spanish speaker in spanish in the white suit from the middle of the room and they ignored him so he keep repeating himself and raising his voice until some of the Spanish participants/audience started telling him to stop I think and leave so the screaming was back and forth, which I didnt know this was about the supposed threats that Dr. Greer made to a couple of Spanish inventors I found out about later when the conference was over, back to the story so this guy Rafa left then the room then maybe 10-15 minutes later about 6-8 guys and a girl barge in and started walking really fast straight to the podium one guy had a laptop , they then jump on the stage then all the security jump out from everywhere , then this one girl pushed one the guys off the stage( I'm not sure if shes security she wasnt wearing a uniform) then one security guy have one of those guys in a headlock then the other security have one guy arm twist and so on it was a big mess a few of the speakers were shocked and scared specially the lady speaker(forgot her name) , all the people that didnt understand spanish (includingme ) thought they were trying to disclose something, and were not being allowed so a few english speaking people started saying lem them speak, and later on I learned it was about disclosing theyre invention and also the supposed threats that were made to them.........I got a ride from one of the guys that storm the podium (friends of the inventor) to go back to the terminal so I can go back to Barcelona after the conference. :mfr_lol:


Oh and I saw Bill and Kerry leaving in a hurry I think they were going to interview Dr. Greer if not somebody else.:original:

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case closed , wait for the interveiw. end thread:original::smoke:

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i know its a little off point but anyone else notice Mr greer spends a lot of time playing pocket billiards , Why would someone do this ??

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i havnt noticed lol .. itchy nutz imo:lol3:

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So !,
They smell a rat in Basselona.
It is not a wrat, tis a hamster.


Doesn't anyone watch telly on here?
Hobbit

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:mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

barry

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Hi Luminari,

I think Greer, like many others are changing their stories to fit the situation, as they need to to keep their area in constant movement, with new 'information'.

John Lear changed his story of over ten years from lunar bases and civilizations on the moon to nothing on the moon.

Others take information from third parties and use it as their own.

Others simply make stuff up, I watched part of a Dr. Phil (not that I'm a fan)program the other day about compulsive liars. There was one guy who claims he wrote a book and copied the text from another. He also claimed to be a director of several NGO's, but they didn't exist and a woman who managed to convince doctors that she needed a kidney transplant - seven times!

The number of cranks out there is huge, specially in this area, as they already have the victims wanting to beleive what they have to say, in the palm of their hands. If it sounds credible, use it.

We have to decide with a clear, calm head, if what they are saying is in fact the truth, or if they are just another 'quack'.

As for 'Arthur of Camelot' - great thinking by the way - I think the commentaries about the Youtube video of Deacon could answer why Kerry disclosed the name.

Best regards,

Steve

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If this question has already been asked and answered...forgive me...but have Steven Greer or Henry Deacon said much about any possible malevolent aspects of aliens? I continue to be very interested in who the good guys and bad guys are...whether they are aliens or humans. Also...who really is running Earth is a prime concern for me.

Right ball in the left pocket! Scratch!

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I don't know why Dr Greer says there are no negative ET's but I do think he is bringing out the Truth based in his own perceptions, I don't think he is a disinfo agent.

I think the tragedy here is that we spend so much time being paranoid of the people who are stepping up and putting their lives and the lives of their families at stake that we allow fear to filter our perception of them.

I heard someone say that disinfo is to help us practice discernment. I believe this to be the Truth. Especially considering there are billions of bits of information outside our perceptual field at any given moment, out little tiny brains can only pick up about 2000 bits, just that realization alone brings clarity in how much I miss. I am choosing to allow information to bypass my brain and allow my intuitive heart 'see' without my thoughts making negative judgments about people.

After watching Dr Greer at the Exopolitics Summit my heart is convinced he is of the Truth

Love & Light to all
-Truth-

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I notice Dr. Greer is a little cocky/ego going on I guess you have to be, to be an efficient speaker, he said that he sent a letter to Obama and gave him one year to disclose the ET presence if not hes going to make contact and do it himself, I thought hes been trying to make contact for years?

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Dears,

Before year 2008 I wasn't interested in EXOPOLITIC at all. I mean I didn't want at all. I would like to think that the actual things, I mean bad things in the world are leaded by some families.

But why is that the same families over and over again, after so many generations, because in a normal way after 3 generation they say the fortune is vanished. How come these persons manage to beat the centuries and only them be in control.

Then I thought that is something bigger, an entity that spans many hundered of years, that supporting these family of rulers. And the thought such the extraterrestrial became the only justification.

Then I discovered Project Camelot and that issue of EXOPOLITICS changed a lot for me.

Not only that, but from different reads and investigation, (of course I cannot prove anything my self only by logic and cross connections) that indeed there are extraterrestrials as well as intraterestrials as well. Many of these races will not intervene as Prime Directive. Few of them they are benevolent and decided or, beter say prone to help in some cases, while few are here to profit. The problem with the last, is that they are very vicious and incredible intelligent, much more our intellectual capacity maybe even in 20,000 years of our linear evolutions, non-helped.

There is an extreme interesting of a Professor of Polish nationality, called Jan Pajak which enunciated the theories of Jan Pajak totalizm and galactic parasitism. These are about a race that is parasitizing us, living from our vital energies, from our life energy, minerals, etc. This race is so old and their member are not dying but reincarnating and because they lived so long all of them are very sour, mean and pure evilish. But is not their fault, because inevitably living in such world for such long time, you became same, even worst just because you need to cope.

Really I think this is the case with our planet and if that "guys" are resorting to public menaces of such you mentioned, then they are close to their last moments, at least on this planet.

Another thing, most of World Governments and Ocult organizations are already penetrated by that beings, so saying you do not knowing or not believing that they are evils-at least a part of them, for a person of calibre of Mr. Greer is something my intelligence refuse to accept.

Also, the vast number of so call disclosure or disclosure campaigns, that are popping out like mushrooms after a big rain, has to do with the campaign of preparing the human global mental for tha last threat mentioned by Wernher von Braun before to die, to his assistant Mrs. Carol Rosin:

1)Russians & Communists (passed)
3) terrorists (already and we've been bored of)
3) Rogue Regimes such Iran, N. Korea and such (close to pass)
4) Asteroids and celestial bodies (maybe Nibiru???) - in preparation
5) UFO and alien invasion (feverish preparation)


Also Henry Kissinger has been mentioned here the Alien Invasion or Menace:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/counterfeit_foe.html

So, more than 90 of the UFO effects nor sightings are from HUMAN origin, either created by special events by similar HAARP systems transmitting cortical visions and sound effects, by ELF means to the viewers, coupled with or type of Aurora or newer version of TR-3B Astra Locust (that name is not by chance-has to do with the following biblical paragraph:Apocalypse 9-3:
"Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power"

This in preparation for the Dark Knight Day, in 28-Oct-2011, when by means of holographic projections, inserting thought and visions, from satellites and terrestrial stations, armies of autonomous robots coordinated by swarm intelligence, using exotic weapons such Puke ray, death ray, ADS from satellites, etc will create a hell on earth.

Imagine billions of people the are seeing their beloved deity ordering in the head to go commit suicide or kill the others, or who know what evilish thing.
The program is the old Project Blue Beam, on steroids, part of it already checked in First Gulf War, when in the operation theatre there has been projected a half mile human on sky, which talking in the heads of iraqi army to surrender to US army because their boss is a dictator.

So that Dark Knight Project (called so because Dark - is where they want to send the human conscience in the darkest pits, and Knight because is like project is viewed like a warrior for advancing their cause, the NWO.

So, right now, I think this is all about so many disclosures, that before were so hidden kept and so utterly denied. Don't you put this question why? WHo has to benefit? Qui Bono? That is the only valid question.

Also there are information very refreshing and positive for the human race hope that will be prove be true.

So, is that I do not believe that a man like Greer doesn't know that with good/bad aliens, also the issue with life threats, seem very plausible because a method of them.

When they want to collect intel about guys from resistance or want to nail, those against their webbing and intrigues, then they set an underground organization, trough proxies, financed by them by covert means using a financing a company you wouldn't suspect, with the only purpose to look genuine and non-aligned with the bad guys. So, the good guys fall in the trap; just that happened all over in history, same happened with people studying the radiant energy (Zero Point, ether, scalar or tesla Energy). It is one of the very well known protocols. And this wisdom is not terrestrial.

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I've been following Dr.Steven Greer for several years now and I've also read his book Hidden Truth , Forbidden Knowledge.

My feeling is that he is to the full extent of his belief telling the truth as he sees it. I have noticed 2 huge concepts which he hasn't adapted as his truth so far.

1) His religion , or faith is Ba'ha (according to his account in his book). So he doesn't believe in reincarnation. His view of the metaphysical is very limited and basic, even though he has had some powerful experiences.

2) He believes that all ETs are benevolent. Any kind of evil or dark ETs are in his mind covert OPs by our own shadow governments. For example he believes that the greys are manufactured by the shadow governments.. which is actually correct ... a lot of them are factured by us... but then again a lot of them are under control of the reptilians..

In spite of these 2 huge shortcomings which have huge implications, I have to say that the work and sacrifice (for example, his very close assistant has been killed by the PTB and he has also been diagnosed with cancer) he has done is of outstanding level and let's not forget that we have him to thank about the disclosure project which was a major insert into the mass human consciousness about the ET presence. I support him very much in his endeavours about free energy but I am afraid that without advancing considerably his metaphysical knowledge, there won't be too much success.

Free energy is closely tied with the spheres of consciousness itself.. Somthing tells me that if such a project were to succeed one must factor in the larger reality of bad/good ETs, reincarnation, earth changes caused by cosmological factors etc etc... Let's hope Dr. Steven manages to break free from his self-imposed limitations ... From my point of view, through following his work over the years he seems to be a true warrior with many connections that would like to truly help humanity enter a new phase of evolution..

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Here is a little video about the Baha'i Faith and the NWO. There are severval other videos on the subject if interested. It makes me think, I didn't know that Steven Greer was of that faith. Hmmmmmmmm

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Dears,

More than 95% from the so called Truth disclosers are of that kind. The possible good people, knowing something and maybe are all over tormented of remorse and they considering on starting saying something are scarred, like the mouses in the barn, when opening at large, the door.

I do not believe many; most of them come with 60-70% truth just to get the right attention, then inject the dysinfo, or just drag the intended target into "desired" ways.

Do not gulping everything you see or hear even on reputable sites. Also there are people prone to errors. Or maybe that reputable sites are just honey pot traps.


Suggesting to always ask your heart and believe it. Ask heart, is this guy genuine and you will find out!

Also I would suggest do not be in such wonder if you find even the most trusted, be one of them. More of that, be prepared be one of them. Something that is capable to raise and nurture some human being, just to use once, for a single issue, should put you much to thought.

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This is a bit off topic...but I keep trying to think through the possibilities of making the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights the centerpiece of globalism...which would include both political and religious aspects...with Responsible Freedom as the unifying principle. This would be an organized decentralism...with No Unquestionable Authority(human or otherwise). The implications and ramifications of this are quite profound. At first glance...it seems like a dry and lifeless religious/political solution...but through the principle of Comprehensive Concentration...spiritual life of a non ritual/organized religious nature...could be breathed into such a centerpiece.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Steven Greer...other than being an alternative to a potential globalist religon where debate and questions are forbidden. I'm not a USA Uber Alles person...I just want a world based firmly upon Responsible Freedom. I look to a humanistic...rather than a theistic...solution...for global politics and religion. The truth will set us free. I'm just testing the idea at this point. If it is a valid concept...people much more ambitious and capable than myself would have to implement it. I presently prefer taking the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...as is...and surrounding it with globalist applications and wording. This would replace the present U.N. Charter...and would be an end-run around the New World Order. I want people to be more spiritual(in the right way) and I want more alien interaction(with benevolent aliens)...but I do NOT want a malevolent alien theocracy. Once freedom is lost...it can be very, very difficult...if not impossible...to regain this lost freedom. Do we face mass extermination...and total enslavement which could last for thousands(or millions) of years? Be very, very careful folks.

Could people such as Greer...be potentially taking orders from aliens...rather than simply seeking disclosure? This is not an allegation...just a very remote possibility. Wouldn't aliens seek spokespersons? Just something to keep in mind. Did any of the original disclosure witnesses portray aliens in a negative light? Phil Schneider did...and he was brutally murdered.