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We have become so dependent on our conscious mind to navigate the waters of life, that when this sea of life gets a bit choppy, we aren't aware that we have a built in life jacket (our spirit) that will guide us more surely than our conscious mind ever could. Listen to your heart - it will point you in the right direction. Ignore the doom and gloom scenario - by believing it you will make it happen. |
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Baggy I need you and all the other Avalonions, I can't survive without you and pple like you .I watch this site like a hawk ,if I don't how will I know when and if the time has come ? I can't help I'm not in the know like you pple . I'm sorry I'm selfish but I've no other option , my giudes brought me here so pple like you who was brought here to help us and inform us . So whatever your bitch is get over it dude and do the right thing for you , if you go peace if you stay peace and love.:thumb_yello:
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But then on the realistic side we have to look at the fact that we are all spread out over the globe, most with no means to relocate due to money or other reasons. Sadly I think most of us will be on our own in the coming months, at least in the real world. We should all be comforted in the fact that we have a forum such as this that we can turn to for information, support, ideas, and occasionally a good laugh. I can tell you know if I won the lottery, I would buy land in australia and build a small underground self sustaining community and buy all my friends, family, and anyone interested in such a thing a plane ticket there. Oooohhh... that gives me an idea. We all know that our focused thoughts can effect our world. Why don't we all set up a time frame when we select a set of numbers for a lottery somewhere with a huge jackpot, and for a 2 week time frame we all focus our energies on the location where it is drawn and those particular numbers? |
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There is a form of dynamics here , with a dimension of it's own . I believe that if situations worsened over the coming months, maybe years a lending hand privately would be given out to those as when the time is right. For those that do not post, I would think there behind the scenes plans are being made without us even knowing but by all of us assisting in our points of view helping all of them make their own decisions.
This truly is a remarkable site with much talent , and no scrupples by coming forward with your opinions. That is the bestest! |
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inaction. Stop your whining and get after it. Your grand children are depending on you! Your country is experiencing a beat down. Get educated and get active. Louis Beam Leaderless Resistance. Read it, learn it, own it. Then teach everyone you trust. Naomi Wolf. Aleksandr Solzhenitzen. If you can find it in your heart, the four Gosples wouldn't hurt either. These are radical pieces written for radicals. Or just wait till the ash from the gas chambers settles on your lawn. |
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Project Avalon is not over by a long way.
I'm all for hard core types giving soft core types a swift kick up the bum to get things moving, but please dont over-do it. Project Avalon has had many success stories - I am personally aware of several new groups of friends that most definately got started as a result of work done by this site. A.. |
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Well a few I know, left because of the subscription.
It wasnt the money, but they had issues with the idea of any form of charging for this sort of thing. Obviously I disagree with that - free-will is a bitch, but it is the law. A.. |
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With all the news of "impendings", from the economy to a mass solar ejection...
most of us are not that friendly to our "stranger" neighbors to begin with,that is true for myself, or was true, it's changed somewhat. I don't know why I've found myself in a situation that has great potential for survival, but it might be because I've been paying attention and I chose to act on certain circumstances. I'm still rather non friendly to neighbords, I'm a loner type and can't stand small talk, don't like parties, that sort of thing. Early on at this site it occured to me how difficult it is to make new friends when everyone is in "anonymous" mode here to begin with. We have Avatars and Names that we've conjured up just to post here.. I suppose the premise IS to remain off the radar from the PTBs... what a joke that is huh??? I'm SURE (in my pea brain) that we are very monitored, have no privacy, but we entertain ourselves the day long that we do. Yes, I'm a "nobody", don't have a "high station" in life... but I marvel that our property (me & my husband) has developed at least to sustain us with food in a crisis, garden/greenhouse/well water spring fed... I pipe in now and again and show my wacked out nature from time to time... sometimes I write well, other times I'm hasty & just off my rocker... still... early on I could see the dilemma... contacting & creating a network of like minded folks<<< not going to happen. We are all too mind controlled, conditioned, cautious (some of which is worthwhile).. we find ourselves having to DEAL WITH OUR LIVES AS THEY ARE!!! And well, it should be... There is nothing like family and the very few friends that you really have...if you can't talk to them, well it's very telling about your SELF now isn't it??? I'm in the same boat. We live on a peninsula... one way in, one out... there are those that are quietly preparing, there are those that are not.. yet, we will help those that we can... and, deep sigh, I am not stupid enough to think that my sorry ass is safe at all w/what we have when the economy hits its dire peak of crash.... I like what Cliff High spoke in the interview w/St Clair (which has caused a huge fall out w/Bill & Kerry, see todays post at Camelot)... Cliff said that he is at peace & acceptance where it is that he lives knowing what he knows... that he accepts his position in life... should we ALL be that wise!!!... yet do what we can... |
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Baggywrinkle, don't shoot me but I need to point out a few things.
You know I respect you and your wisdom, I've told you so in a pm or two, but!, Because you think you're right about things now, and upcoming, doesn't mean that we are all wrong! Don't expect us to all be at the same level of preparedness that you are, impossible. Don't expect us all to know everything that you know, impossible. Don't expect us all to think the way you do about the world, impossible. Don't expect us all to act and react the same as you, impossible. Because you can climb that mountain to get away from the flood, don't expect us all to be able to climb that mountain, impossible. You're just going to drive yourself mad and get more and more pis..sed off thinking that we should all do what you're doing! Again I have a great respect for you but don't come down on some here because we're not at your level of thinking. I'll pass on Louis Beam even if he is credited for developing the concept of Leaderless Resistance. I don't care much for his shady background! And I'll definitely pass on anything to do with the bible! I'm not looking for a father figure, or looking for a leader because I'm not a follower. This isn't a dig at you!, just pointing some things out is all. |
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I have also noticed more people becoming aware of what's going on. with the PTB. aluminates. and such. with the economy, people are looking for answers. But like this thread. nobody wants to break there training and do some real work on these issues. or go against the current. I wish we would all stop!!! consuming. bring consumption to its minimalist. turn the power of of our houses. and look for other means of light and such. everything. and a tax revolt. and protests. with information. a campaign of truth and justice. this is why I think they went with obama at this time. they know its coming. when they put the screws to us. most of us are already looking to do things locally. this is the key. locally. find a community garden if you don't have space to garden. and volunteer. this gets you involved. and its part of the solution. we need to fire the current powers to be and start new. revolution. we need help forming a peaceful revolution. a million man march. camping on the grate mall in washington. passing out leaflets on what's really going on at the mall. and its similarities to giza. things like that. I wish I could inspire many. and have the courage to lead in this task that must take hand. makes me want to get up and go to the window. right now and open it and scream as loud as you can. I'm SICK AND TIRED OF THIS BS. AND IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!
:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muQRIUVd6Aw :blowup: :blowup: :blowup: :blowup: :blowup: IT STARTS WITH ONE. IM READY. AND i DON'T MEAN TO INSPIRE A RIOT OR ANYTHING. BUT COME ON!!! HOW LONG HAVE BEEN HERE..AND WE STILL CANT FIGURE IT OUT.. RANT!!!!! :chuff: |
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For reasons of integrity, we find ourselves unable to continue to support the work of Michael St.Clair, who over a period of several months has been speaking increasingly disparagingly about us both in public and in private. All we will say is that the remarks he has made about us are defamatory and untrue, and we are extremely disappointed. He does not understand our mission, and has ceased to support it. We have removed his work from our site, and we sincerely apologize to all our friends for whom this may be a disappointment. Can someone give me a link to the Cliff high, st clair interview and or any other places where St Clair has made disparaging remarks.. Im only curious, not causing any trouble. I bought St Clairs books and I know he loves Kerry Cassidy, he even included her as a character in his Forseen beyond time book.. so this is surprising news. |
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I didnt drink St Clairs koolaid any how. I think hes to about the money and power. just seemed to me he was working an angle. thats what I felt. :naughty:
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Thats very interesting to me Dan and Dagon. I was never attracted to St Clairs info either.
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I think there are quite possibly two Michael St Clairs, the old one and the new one. Catch my drift?
Sorry to add to the topic derailment ;) A.. |
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I'm not a St Clair fan either
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The St. Claire's were the darkest Freemasons on the planet. I don't know if its his bloodline,but its a bloodline that dates from old Europe ,that brought its witchcraft to the Good ole US of A.
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The people go from bondage to spiritual faith from spiritual faith to great courage from courage to liberty from liberty to abundance from abundance to selfishness from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy from apathy to dependency from dependency back again into bondage... --Alexander Tytler Let us be perfectly honest. The historical record is indisputable. Marxism means the persecution of Christians, the execution of right wing dissidents, massive slave labor camps, and grinding poverty for countless millions of terrified, muzzled human beings. --J.R. Nyquist A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin un shmeist naett eiyah keshtlichi sacha zu di sei, shunsht doon si's fadredda mitt di fees un no rumm drayya un eich fareisa -- Mattheus 7:6 Sorry Dan, you'll just have to read the bible to translate that last one |
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[QUOTE=Anchor;128823]I think there are quite possibly two Michael St Clairs, the old one and the new one. Catch my drift?: wink2: he reinvented himself
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Well I've recently come back from being in Russia for 11 days...
I was on a train with my girlfriend coming back from St Petersburg where two men were discussing the credit crisis and how it is effecting them there and how they considered it manipualted and how they also discussed UFO's and some of the stuff we discuss here… I wish I could have spoken in Russian with them :( In Russia unfortunately their disposable income is pretty much zero compared to Europe and USA and my GF has not been paid for 3 months! ... she continues to work in the hope to have a job at the end of the crisis. One of her friends had her wage halved and then halved again and today was dismissed... An awakening is happening in all countries... it will happen in different ways. I watched a film last night "knowing" the ending is very similar to some events we discuss on here... What will happen? If it is an extinction event is having a back garden really going to help? I wish people were more aware and friendly of course but the only person you have any control over is you. Be as you want others to be to you to them... I still listen to the interviews on PC and gather information daily on what wll happen if anything... and was in Russia relistening to PC interviews I have them all on my MP3 player and also realise a lot of the information is not as bad as it seems or is projected. Being aware of the manipulation of the world is what PC and PA is all about for me... what we all decide to do with it is our own choice... But I have a brand new rucksack and loads of supplies and other things I bought in fear from listening to some of them and wonder sometimes if it really will happen? I'd love to buy a plot of land and build a dome or eco house... I did a lot of research but am more inclined to push for the free energy revolution route in my thoughts as I feel this will give the biggest benefits to the world the two latest Jimm Marrs and Wade Frazier interviews are great… |
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Looks like you have connected with sauce. I agree on all points.
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Czymra, this thread is very timely for me.
Like many others, I come here most days and take on board all that you guys have to say and I thank you. I am reletivly new to all of this and can find it sometimes so overwhelming that it takes time to obsorb and digest, that thread has moved on and the moment is lost for me to contribute. The world I thought I knew is no more. Every aspect has now changed and that takes some getting used to. Just the other night I was getting in quiet a tizz about everthing. Thinking why arn't most people seeing/awakening. Its soo frustrating. But you know what, and this is why this is so timely, your right what am I doing. Yes, I tried with my own family and close friends, (its very lonely out there), when people even those close just don't get it. But your right I have to do something. Even if its just contibuting more on here. Love and peace Golden |
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I hope some of our inspiration can be steered into a productive outcome of it all, and that if any of you have a specific idea don't hesitate to propose it. Thanks to all of you, and keep it coming! |
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People here are mainly just too lazy or dont want to face the reality. Everyone here is faced with a perfect opportunity to come together and do something constructive yet sniff at the opportunity and instead use the board as a chat central. This isnt directed at anyone specifically and its not to be taken personally, i know a lot of cool people here. Any time a post comes up with the intent of making some waves people either ignore it or confront it with such scepticism that the poster just becomes disuaded. Im taking my efforts into the real world where ive already had unforseen success in this area. Until the people get their fingers out this board is just a complete waste of time and energy with the way things are going. |
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Hi all,
I would like to put my pennies worth into the bowl. This is a great discussion thread with points coming from many different ares of view. Thanks to all. I am not sure that the creation of communities will be the best of getting through this.I think the change of view has to be a undirected collective momentum. If these communities are created and depending on how the fan is hit, these communities may face themselves in a dualistic fashion placed on them, or they be in a situation where they will be easy to pick off. Collection and ilimnation. I must say that I grew up in London as the idea of cummunity was dispanding before our very eys. People blame it on imirgration, Money, Government Policies, the death of moral fibre, the loss of religous or spiritual practises and choices. But in truth the only people to blame was the people in that community of that area. I was part of a generation that failed to hear or listen the wisdom that was hidden in the genration above. This could be felt across the genration board. My parents could feel their responsibility by letting our geration slip. or themselves loosing faith or sight of their parents. To make the change happen we must all take an active part in the process. Even going doan and buying a stamp or a loaf of bread. The meeting of two souls at a bus stop. The crossing of a farmer and a consumer from the supermarket. When this exchange happens, which could even be just a glance, this should be an active process. If someone feels balanced in their being, then when presented with the porr me person, we should not just give to fill the void, neither should we shut them out creating the dualism. instead we should apply the person with the thing they don't really want, being the solar plexus. The driving force behind action and endeavours. But leaving them to develope their own way forward. This can be done like over the counter prescriptions. The echange is quick, efficent and unrisky for the balanced one. If confronted by a oppresive or agressive, here we should lend heart to that passion, which can give rise to direction. backing it up with the throat chakra to give it clarity and a passive progressive condition to this clarity. If we could do this on a constant level. The community that exists around you is full of people who will contribute to use all making it through together. Even if we loose some to rest for a while. The continum of the process is without out end, then community will leave the controlling world to fade into the past as did the darks ages. Of course sitting around talking about it is a bit like the "Judains people front" episode in "The life of Brian". I consider this place as a chill out room that I can meet discuss, disagree laugh and cry, with people who I know will be out there tomorrow breaking through another day. We help each other realise our choices that we can make outside the chillout room. Untill the chill out room becomes the "out there" and the out there takes a back seat in the history of this planet. Love your nieghbour more than we love ourselves and the community that we all desire will be right on our dorrstep. May be a bit too big a penny. But when you've got to spend a penny you've gotta spend it. |
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Haha! Lawless, you are spot on.
Behold everyone! Here is the truth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Z_b-06BDk |
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There seems to be one big assumption being made by a lot of people here, namely that if it isn't being posted on this forum it isn't happening.
You wouldn't plant an acorn in September and expect to see a forest next April, so what are you expecting to see here? And why the apparent belief that people should post whatever they are doing here for all to see? We all have access to the same sources of information- how much we learn and what, if anything, we do about it is a matter of personal choice. Nobody is under any obligation to do or share anything they don't wish to. If there aren't enough people announcing that they are doing the same things as you to meet your expectations then maybe those expectations are the problem, not other people. |
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There are also a great deal, like myself, who would love to be able to do more, but can't. My job works me 50 hours a week, and unfortunately that is a necessity, as I have bills and school loans that need to get paid. Especially with the economic crisis being as bad as it is it's risky to leave a job because you may not be able to find another one. The little free time I do have is spent in meditation, checking here or other sites for updates and info, working on some projects of my own, and trying to sort out life. As far as your second statement concerning your project, I will be the first to admit I viewed it harshly and even attacked you a bit, and I apologize. It was just the way it was worded at first it seemed like so many things I have seen before that had negative outcomes. There are many who have expressed a genuine interest and are anticipating some info. As many have stated we are getting down to the wire and don't have the luxury of waiting till someone decides we are ready. If someone is, they are. If they aren't, they will be left in the dust. We all talk about having unending understanding and love for one another, but it seems as of late we all spend more time attacking and criticizing each other instead of have constructive discussions that lead to proven ways to solve issues in the real world and better our lives. I know that many of us are frustrated with our lives, governments, families, friends, strangers, and anything else you can think of but now more than ever we must all remain vigilant and determined to do what we can no matter how little it is. Perry Stoltzfus AKA: Lorien |
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I was also surprised by the many negative reactions. There are literally 1000's of ways to make money online without being involved in a ponzi scheme. I guess unexperience is why such conclusions are made. |
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In fact, let's not judge each other like this. There's no room for it. Also, you've failed to realize that people ARE coming together on a forum where they otherwise would have not met each other. Does it mean that they're lazy? Absolutely not. I'm sure that most of us have our own plans because what might work for you, may not work for someone else. We have to take this in mind. |
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