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RedeZra 08-17-2009 07:12 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras (Post 162097)
...My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear.


Is it not so that our world is in dire straits and have been so for a long time

If so would it be scare tactics to point to the reality of it


Either one believes or believes not in an Almighty Creator
Or one can sit on the fence and see where one eventually falls

If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him

Who can make right all that is wrong in the world today
Who knows the Adversary

Let us continue to be loving truthful and righteous

So when the time comes for wrong to be made right
See to it that we are not cut down

14 Chakras 08-17-2009 07:36 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
"If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him "

Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

:thumb_yello:

RedeZra 08-17-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras (Post 162107)
Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

:thumb_yello:

lol the infinite dont need to work through us

Rather we are within the Father and by our good intentions we can rise to the threshold of His stature til He let us in

firefly 08-18-2009 02:59 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
Thank You 14 Chakras and RedeZra for your replies, however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist! Being an IT Programmer she was steering towards a more scientific purpose for our existence ( to my disappointment).

So it was to my great surprise when this incident happened. And yes, we must always practice discernment if possible. But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is. My daughter has developed doubts as to who it was that was speaking to her, even though she believes mankind has taken the wrong path in relation to our planet she had adopted an opposing view and spiritual belief to me.

So I feel the message she was given was more for my eyes and not necessarily for hers.

Love and friendship
firefly

RedeZra 08-18-2009 04:39 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
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Originally Posted by firefly (Post 162327)
...however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist!

Tnx for sharing firefly

A convenient time to interfere : )

Yes its a question of faith which will hopefully unfold into understanding
Not so easy to believe in such a superhuman being who transcends all science


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Originally Posted by firefly (Post 162327)
...But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is.

Its hard to know for sure
But take heed of the message and make what you want of it
God will not fool you

firefly 08-18-2009 05:07 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
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Originally Posted by RedeZra (Post 162337)
Tnx for sharing firefly

A convenient time to interfere : )

Yes its a question of faith which will hopefully unfold into understanding
Not so easy to believe in such a superhuman being who transcends all science




Its hard to know for sure
But take heed of the message and make what you want of it
God will not fool you

Thank You RedeZra for your reply and your words of wisdom .

Love and friendship
firefly

Ashatav 11-02-2009 09:29 PM

CE-4 Research Group Prooves it!
 
See video.


See the Page by the CE-4 UfO Research Group.

There are Over 70 DOCUMENTED TESTIMONIES about that and over 350 and counting .

See Joe Jordan's conference about it. (Spoiler: With PROOVES!)

THE "ALIEN" ABDUCTION EXPERIENCES ARE STOPPED IN THE NAME Of JESUS CHRIST. PERIOD.

PD: See this clip from "A trip into the Supernatural", an interview with the late ex-spiritist Roger Morneau.

Put min. 5




.... Excuse me... What are the Aliens? :shocked:

wynderer 12-22-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
Hi All -- my last post was knocked off, but i'll try again -- a short post in case it happens again -- i am another one who stopped abductions w/the Name of Jesus -- i am a Christian from personal experiences, not from faith in the Bible -- i think a lot of the Old Testament was tampered with -- i do read the Gospels because a lot of Jesus' truths did manage to get in there

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

gscraig 12-22-2009 05:02 PM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
I debated on responding and which way to approach it without being argumentative. I responded to this link a while ago, because I also experienced using the word of Jesus Christ to stop whatever it was that I was experiencing. I learned to use it via my mother as she had experiences and was advised via her pastor. So, I'm also speaking as a once experienced and religious type. However, I do not support the premise or what can be seen as yet another "stone" being cast by those of the Christian faith at the rest of the world. I will summarize at the end, what this all seem to avoid or misrepresent.

Now, for starters, you have to really pay attention to the wording/verbage because that will tell you first and foremost the true driver of this information and it's ultimate objective. Then you have to look at the additional links on the these websites to start putting the real puzzle together. Let's look at the webpage titled CE4 Research Group.

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"These researchers took on one piece of the UFO puzzle as a research project.
The UFO/Abduction phenomena is a huge project in itself. Why only focus/research one piece of the project? Because it caters and fits comfortably into a personal belief system?

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CE4 Research Group has been the Investigative arm of AlienResistance.org, a clearing house website covering the Biblical view on the UFO phenomenon.
Hmmm.."Covering the Biblical view",...Again, is it because it caters and fits comfortably into personal belief systems?

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Are Christians being abducted by Aliens?
Nevermind the rest of humanity, but the Christians!!?...

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The research showed that "some" people professing to be Christians were indeed reporting that they had encountered this experience in their lives. The same experience that people of all faiths or no faith had been reporting over the many years of UFO research.
The operative word here is "some" and again how Christians are now professing to experience the UFO abduction phenomena now, oppose to the rest of the populace.

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They found that "some" of these Christian Alien Abduction experiencers had been able to stop or even terminate the experience from their lives
.

Again, the operative word here is "some". This is important because it intimates that not all of those claiming to be Christians had success evoking the name of Jesus Christ?

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We have attempted to bring our piece of the puzzle to the table
Essentially, what they are saying is that their piece of the puzzle was being hidden by the UFO researchers, so now they are bringing their piece. The underlying truth of the statement, is that they all are only "pieces of the puzzle".

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Through the research into the case testimonies it was found that "some" of the experiencers were able to stop or terminate the experience. There was a recognized commonality in the method that was used among the Christian experiencers. The experience was shown to be able to be stopped or terminated by calling on the name and authority of JESUS CHRIST".
"Oooh, that nasty word "some" again. Again, the focus is on the Christian experience.

IN SUMMARY
This same story points out that there are roughly 5 million people whom experienced abductions, and their information is based on 350 cases, with 75 testimonies attached on the site. With those numbers, you are comparing apples to oranges. What about all those non-Christians whom claim to be visited by benevolent beings, and the Christians whom were not?

In my opinion, what you are seeing is the ET Phenomena slowly, but surely penetrating the internal soul of those imprisoned by a belief system. As they watch the foundation of that belief system beginning to crack with each revelation of information and discoveries that proves the opposite of that belief. We've seen this a countless number of times mostly via our christian brothers and sisters, where they feel that they have proven the truth of their book. It's funny, because every religious book claims to be the truth, so that makes many of them if not all of them, in one way or another...A lie. Let's also not forget about our christian faith presidents such as George Sr and baby Jr, Reagan and now Obama. Pay attention folks, truth is right beneath your nose.

I do believe that most of Jesus teachings were spot on/accurate, but he and much of what was written about our past is a different story. Is that why revelations/rapture states that the Western world and Christianity will endure the most of God's wrath? Conveniently, Christians dismissed that meaning those Christians whom do not follow Jesus teachings (which I can accept), but maybe it is also in part due to Christianity may embody the most of the great deceptions/manipulations? That is if you believe in "all" of Revelations and our all loving God (and per biblical history "all punishing" God) is going to wipe the entire earth (newborns, children, you name it) to cleanse and then judge those to see whom will burn in an eternal flame, and who does not. An all loving God would not use or create tools of destruction to create destruction.

I will end this with the most common sense question of the day. If Satan indeed exist and wanted to gain dominion of this world and in order to do it, and it had to be by deceiving man. What do you think he/she/they would infiltrate or manipulate first to accomplish such a feat? Humanity's understanding of self and source. You manipulate anything that helps man know the true path. That is one of the reasons there are different religions and 7 books of aramic writings most of us never heard of.

There is more physical proof of ET's than anything else we've been taught or told to believe. Wake up, please.

housemouse2 12-22-2009 05:08 PM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 119863)
I could be very wrong...but this alien/ufo thing seems to be human vs reptillian on both a physical and a spiritual level. There are others out there in this vast universe...but on Earth it's pretty much us vs them.

I think you are on to something here. I have yet to actually see a reptillian but I have an unnatural fear of snakes, reptiles in general. Anything else doesn't bother me. But reptiles do...I'm scares stiff of them.

As to Jesus:

First Jesus was a very common name in those times. It was like mike or joe today. IMHO Jesus was and still is very real. The bible was written after the fact, decades after the fact and is not a good source of info. But the bible is a great symbol for fighting of the "demonic" situation.

Jesus in name is a symbol today. It's a powerful symbol because people worship him in name body and sole. Thus, that symbol becomes very powerful and can affect things on a quantum level. That's how people can use the bible and the cross to close a portal to another reality known as hell.

Any symbol, if powerful, can be used. Even a chocolate bar can be used to manipulate the field providing the people believe in the symbol enough to focus the energy through it. Hence, the magic wand.

If the person being abducted is powerful enough or feels threatened enough to use a symbol to enact a protective shield from an outside force...your mind actually does it...using quantum physics...than that person, in my opinion, should be able to stop any force that manipulates quantum fields. ET, demonic or other. It's a focus point in reality.

wynderer 12-23-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
Hi Housemouse2 -- that was an interesting post, on the use of the Name of Jesus as a symbol -- however, this was not so in my case -- not saying that someone using the Name as a symbol would not have success --

for myself, i've always felt that those who use symbols are using a somewhat corrupted form of spiritual power -- like, why use symbols/rituals when you can go directly to the Creator? & certainly the nwo is misusing the power of symbols on the collective & individual consciousness -- it's a kind of 3D/
4D 'spirituality' only

it's easy to go to/be directly w/the Creator when around the innocent & pure on our Earth -- i.e., Earth herself, the trees, animals, birds, etc -- but when in the scary world of human beings & our many uninvited visitors from space & other dimensions, help from others in higher dimensions is much appreciated & often needed

my post that got knocked off was a full account of the abduction i woke up in & fought back, ending the abductions about 3 wks later by using the Name of Jesus -- that was in '98 or '99 -- & only the 2nd time in my life i'd done so

synchronistically for me, just a few days ago i did so for the third time, so it is fresh in my mind -- long story -- basically where i am living right now, there is an energy portal that i think is also connected to the underground tunnel system -- this area filled w/salt caves/caverns, some natural, some from digging for the salt -- the portal not in the hands of the Good Guys, & i have been subject to a lot of harrassment on more than one dimensional level -- others have heard the crashings & bangings & footsteps, etc-- the 3D manifestations--

come to think of it, it was the nite of the solstice -- i just kind of reached the point where i'd had it up to here w/all the invasions of my space -- i gave the human living here, who aids & abets the portal guys, a good piece of my mind; then, as w/stopping the abductions, not planning to do this -- i found myself standing, facing the portal in the next room, & shouting in anger,' I mean you no harm, but I am under the protection & care of Jesus & His Angels, & LEAVE ME ALONE!'

as i was shouting, i was aware of some very powerful Beings standing all around me, incl covering my back --the sell-out human here looked really scared

it is my impression that many abductees -- those relative few who remember, tho more are as the quickening picks up pace -- i think many live in fear -- i am familiar w/the fear that comes from post-hypnotic suggestions helped by implants -- the fear of talking/writing/even thinking about the abductions -- & also i know that strange sleepiness that hits when one is trying to write or talk about this subject

i have tried to adopt Edgar Cayce's personal prayer -- 'Others, Lord, others' -- & don't really like talking about myself -- but maybe this will help someone else -- just recently i have been told by several different beings whom i respect that i am a warrioress -- i did reflect that after i read the book 'How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abductions' during the 3 wks of fighting off abductions every nite until i called on the Name/Person/Presence of Christ Jesus -- when i woke up to find 3 or 4 greys hovering over the foot of my bed snickering nastily amongst themselves, i did not go for the sending warm fuzzy love to them, one tactic in the book -- instead my instant reaction was to attack, & i snapped off one of their arms w/my mind/will -- they disappeared & did not come back

i'm thinking that anger is the flip side of fear, & way more empowering -- all abductees have the right to righteous anger -- i was VERY angry, at the Draco during that last abduction, & after his psy/sexual attack when i called on Jesus -- & when i yelled at the portal guys

i read in an Earth First journal one of their mottoes: 'Anger + Love = Action' --

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

zaina 12-23-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
yes i can agree with you ,calling on jesus has heled me more than once and the hairy little creature that was lying on me a few nights ago and doing something sexual i believe got booted when i call for jesus to help me ..
although i got angry and said to this creature get off me you --------
it seemed his strenght wasnt so powerful with my anger of what it was doing ..but i couldnt get him off on my own it was like stuck to me ..yack
love and light

halebox 12-27-2009 04:14 AM

Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?
 
Maybe it is more important for them that you to believe in the jesus myth than an abduction. Just a different angle. I dont know if jesus existed but really does it matter?


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